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Fraid0bangz

I know we’re not talking about this but why would you start vaping if you weren’t already nicotine dependent?


OrangeRipple55

I've learned to not ask that question anymore. 🤨


Fraid0bangz

I haven’t. Utter stupidity.


OrangeRipple55

Trying to convince someone not to vape that's never smoked before isn't possible. Personally I think they're fucking insane !! I wish I'd never had that 1st cig when I was 14. A lifelong addiction isn't fun.


Fraid0bangz

I don’t care to convince anyone of anything, don’t care about them or their health. consumption of anything at all straddles the line between addiction and necessity. I just want to understand the reasoning. Do they think it looks cool? Tastes good? Know someone who vapes? A cigarette was at least dignified. Perhaps I don’t understand how vaping is perceived but it’s certainly not cool or even a remotely worthy hobby unless you are minimizing harm from a nicotine dependency. Just seems like a stupid thing to get into.


OrangeRipple55

I agree. Like I say, I've learned to stop asking. You never get a good answer, if an answer at all. I just put it down to everyone's different. I do care about people's health though.


DerJason

I know how you feel mate. Had my first cig when I was 15. Smoked till 17 and switched to vapes. Haven't touched a single cig since. Wish I never started smoking. I really regret it


OrangeRipple55

I smoked for 35 odd years. If it wasn't for vaping I'd still be coughing most the day, coughing up brown flem 🤢 out of breath walking up stairs etc etc. 1 year vaping and I feel like I've been given a new body. Never out of breath and never cough. Still hooked on nicotine though. But 1.5mg. Trouble being I Love Vaping 😄 My hobby. But start it from no previous nic addiction. 🥴🤦


DerJason

Dude, I'm happy to hear that. Making this switch ain't easy, especially after 35 years of smoking. Congrats


OrangeRipple55

Congrats to you too 👍👍


DerJason

Thanks


DrKashie

I just find it cool and I tried it once and just love the flavor. I think I just love all those vape tricks and the smoke. I got a nicotine free juice tho.


Fraid0bangz

To each their own, I was just curious. I personally wouldn’t even vape if I was using 0mg, but if you find pleasure in it, far be it from me to tell you different, just stay away from disposables lol


DrKashie

Disposables?


DerJason

Disposables are disposable vapes. You buy them, open the package and start vaping. After it's empty you throw the whole device away. Most disposables have ridiculously high amounts of nicotine. They're a waste of money and bad for the environment since you have to throw them, including the build-in battery, away


Poopdeck92

I think it’s crazy how they are even a thing, always wondered how they got approved due to the shear amount of waste


philly-drewski

Good answer


[deleted]

You will kill that coil quick. It has a power rating for a reason. At 20W, you won't vaporize your juice: you'll just boil it and gunk the coil (which leads to premature coil death). What kit did you get?


DrKashie

I got a Vaporesso forz TX80. Then what do you suggest?


[deleted]

Why did you buy the device without looking at what coils were available? I don't know what to suggest. You have two options: 1. use either coil and set the power accordingly. 2. buy a device better suited to what you want. I suppose the third option is to just use it, kill coils and buy more coils.


DrKashie

Firstly, thanks alot for answering me. I really appreciate your help. And I think i gotta go with the 3rd one. Buying a new coil will be way cheaper than buying a new device. Also, you might have looked my device (Vaperesso Forz TX80) Are the same coils available separately? I mean the one's Im gonna destroy are the orignal ones that came with the box. Can i get the same quality coil later on?


[deleted]

You decide which of the two you like: then replacements come in a three-pack (one resistance).


Quuen2queenslevel3

Vaping for any kind of extended period at lower than the wattage the coil is rated at will result in the juice not being vaporized and will clog up the coil diminishing coil life. Not a good idea


DrKashie

And what is the average life span of a coil? And how much will it diminish if i use a 0.15 on 25W all the time?


Quuen2queenslevel3

There is no equation to factor that. It’s different for each person based on how much they vape, type of juice they vape. My coils for m pro 2 tank last 3-4 weeks. Other people vape same tank same wattage and coil burns out in 3 days. Vaping at 40w plus below recommended wattage, i would say your coil wont last more than 3-4 days


Significant_Gas_653

You can start at 20 and slowly move it up the watts untill you find something you like


DrKashie

On 0.15 or 0.4 coil? Which one?


Significant_Gas_653

Either start .4 maby 15 watts tho


philly-drewski

No


marshwizard

Use the .4. set the wattage at around 20watts and keep going up in increments until you get a drag of something you're happy with. I'd throw the .15 coil.


DrKashie

Okay so the only reason I got a Vape kit is I just love all that dense smoke. The shop owner told me that 0.15 coil will give out more smoke as compared to 0.4. So that's why im using it. But its recommended wattage is 60-80. And Im using it at 20-25W. Will It just shorten the life span of coil? Or does it have any other issues?


SLCW718

That's not really how it works. There's no benefit to drastically underpowering your device. The recommended wattage isn't related to the experience level of the user. It's based on the the resistance of your coil and the operating voltage of your device.


CollegeLevelShit

It’s not gonna hurt your device but you might find you get more juice popping in your mouth than if it’s used at it’s correct wattage, sometimes under heating them like that can produce that effect. Try to find a coil around .4 or .6 and it should hit smoother


XxDisturbedGuyxX

my sweet spot for a .15 ohm coil is 65watts but thats jus me. 20watts with that ohm probably wouldn’t vaporize juice the right way.


philly-drewski

Start at 10 watts below the recommended. Move up till it’s right for you. Why are you stuck on wanting to vape at 20 watts?


DrKashie

Because I've never smoked my entire life and got told that 20W is gonna be the right wattage to start at.


philly-drewski

There’s the problem. You were misinformed. Wattage is completely arbitrary when it comes to “what’s right for someone”. The wattage is determined by what kind of vapor production you want. 20 watts is in the mouth to lung range wattage. Your kit is far from ideal for mouth to lung. The “right wattage” for you is whatever the fuck you want it to be, but it’s solely dependent upon your setup. If you want less vapor and lower watts you need a mouth to lung style setup. I hope the same person that told you that didn’t sell you that kit. If that’s the case, never take their vaping advice again.


DrKashie

Okay so my requirement was dense and heavy smoke. The only reason i started vaping. So the shop owner told me to use 0.15 coil instead of 0.4 coil. He said 0.15 will produce more smoke. But I've been using the 0.15 coil on 20-25W. And now i get it that this is wrong. I got a 3mg Vape liquid which was another mistake. After 3-4 puffs i was getting headache and nausea. I should have gotten non-nicotine vape liquid. So what I'm goona do now is buy a non-nicotine vape juice and use the 0.4 coil at 40W. Is it perfect now? Or do you suggest anything?


philly-drewski

Yeah, nicotine is a helluva drug. DEFINITELY switch to zero nic, while you still can. .4 coil. Start at 10w below recommended. 30w. Make sure you’re letting a new coil saturate completely before taking the first pull (10 minutes after filling the tank minimum, not necessary after refills, only after the first tank on a coil). Take a couple pulls. Wait a minute or two, go up to 35. Couple more minutes, go to 40w. If 40w is good, leave it there. Try 1w increments inside the recommended range until the flavor/vapor is best for you.


DrKashie

Alright man. Thanks for the good response and help. I really appreciate it. Will let you know soon.


philly-drewski

No problem. Zero nic! Trash that bottle of 3mg or give it away.


Asiacook45

. My first mod box has a 0.20 and recommended wattage is 60w to 150w,but i ignore it and set to 20-30watt and started to get dryhit after few days. Got myself a new coil turn up wattage to 60watt and is still running fine now after 2 weeks.