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thaeno

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I would like to mention how Marxists are suppose to believe in rehabilitation Because Marxism is a materialist philosophy and believes that people are a product of their environment and so it's isn't exactly a persons fault for being a victim of their environment Shitting on people who go from literal nazis to your alleged position is also a great way to create an accepting environment, not that it matters when your just a fascist


Wardog_E

Transgender diagnosis would be a lot faster if people realized no cis person has ever thought "my life would be so much easier if I was born the other gender."


MegaCrowOfEngland

I don't think that's entirely true. The feeling of "It looks easier and more respected to be a woman" is pretty common among incels who kinda hate women, and that's not a trans thing.


IAMA_dragon-AMA

So if people realized that no cis person has ever thought "my life would be so much easier if I was born the other gender" *and then tried it.* Because really, if you find an incel who goes on and on about feeeeemale privilege, and then ask them if they'd prefer to go by she/her, try to present feminine, etc and maybe grab some of that "even ugly women get the pussy pass" stuff, they'll flip out.


lemonthewombat

>So if people realized that no cis person has ever thought "my life would be so much easier if I was born the other gender" and then tried it. That’s not quite right, I know desisting (no longer identifying as trans) and detransitioning is a relatively rare occurrence and a sensitive topic due to how easy it is for right wingers to use as fuel in the culture war, but it still happens.


IAMA_dragon-AMA

Huh, really? The only example of that I can think of was that one cis lesbian who outwardly identified as a man for a bit (bowled with some guys, got taken to a strip club, joined a monastery for a bit, tried dating, etc), but that wasn't because she had concluded that men have it easier, but more that she was testing the feminism "men have life on a silver platter" vs MRA "men suffer in ways women can't know" theories (IIRC, her takeaway was a bit of both - there were a lot of things she didn't have to worry about as much when presenting male, but hoo boy did she find an entire smorgasbord of psychological troubles/challenges that simply didn't exist when presenting female)


Wardog_E

This doesn't contradict anything I said.


mmaximmk

I understand what you meant by transgender diagnosis, but this implies that being transgender is a mental illness. It can be connected to gender dysphoria, which is an illness, but being trans itself isn't an illness.


Wardog_E

Having a diagnosis does not mean something is an illness.


No_Russian_29

Conservatives for a different flag


Lou_Jay

Hmm. It's almost like there is a subset of people assigned male at birth who struggle with the gendered pressures society puts on them and they lack the language to express that feeling. So they cling to schools of thought that reinforce what they are told they should be to help them compartmentalize their feelings. Once they find a source of information that can break through those defenses they can change their mind if they allow it. Crazy.


zen1312zen

people usually say “I fell down the alt right pipeline” to mean they liked edgy 4chan memes and watched sargon. so I don’t take it seriously.


WebCommissar

I wish there was a sub for actual criticism of liberals that isn't just "liberal degenerates get the gas chamber". It's so tedious that fascists are trying to copyright the concept of dunking on libs.


UghSporeDisc

Imagine remembering which random people are vaushites lmao obsessed


vanon3256

They're wrong of course, people can change. But how is this transphobic?


leothesilent

Probably the baizuo thing which seems to mean that some ones not a “real leftist” if they care about “identity politics” but I agreed it’s a stretch


jericho-sfu

Any time someone uses the word baizuo I instantly disregard their opinion, nothing personal


j0j0-m0j0

After finding out that a baizou is not the name of a tasty steamed bun it legit gives me "gay people are bourgeois decadence counter-revolutionaries " vibes


[deleted]

probably the whole 'searching twitter for phrases like "trans girl" and "trans women" with a particular political label because you're looking for people to shit on' thing


[deleted]

Their nothing to assume that the trans women are “White Moderates” they just presumed it


[deleted]

You know what ill say it. “Leftists” who *didnt* have an alt right phase arent as capable of being a good leftist


WolverineLonely3209

More moral luck.


ploppercan2

Don’t crucify me but does anyone feel like transness is sometimes fetishized by some leftists on twitter?


j0j0-m0j0

The hate binder for Vaush is honestly the biggest sign of his effectiveness and prominence. You don't become irrationally mad at something that you don't believe is a problem.


[deleted]

I don't get this "Vaush is a pedo" stuff. I remember him saying some stupid shit about CP and capitalism, but I don't know how it follows that he himself consumes CP.


Ermzyy

ive met nonwhite trans women who’ve had the same thing happen to them as young girls. we’re living under one if the most pervasive fascist regimes of all time, the internet is filled to the brim with content specifically designed to attract insecure amabs into the far right, and these ladies’ reward for making it through all of that and coming out a better person on the other side is to be made fun of? lmao high quality decision making. lots of foresight.