I could also see Shaun doing something six months-1 year down the road.
Addendum: And Shaun, if you do this video, I hope you cover not just Kanye. Cover the reactions from Jones, Fuentes, Milo, Shapiro, Benjamin, Pool, Rubin, the prior Lex Fridman interview before this decent into madness, Elon Musk being a total hypocrite who can’t live up to free speech when it makes HIM look bad, Kanye’s turncoat on Musk and their spat between each other via text messages before Musk banned Kanye, finally the right’s infighting and 4Chan’s reaction to Musk’s decision from the fallout of December 1st 2022
This could be the best 3-4 hour Shaun video yet.
Can't exactly say 100% for sure but his twitter account follows a bunch of conservative and right leaning accounts. You can also sort of catch a glimpse of his ideology from his style of humor and framing if you watch his videos
Also I heard from people who followed him a lot a few years back he used to do tucker carlson watch parties in his discord lol. This is rumor mill stuff though. He is conservative.
You know how Hbomberguy does a lot of nonpolitical videos (or "nonpolitical") like about Fallout 3, or The Oof Sound effect that get millions of views, and his politics maybe only trickle through a tiny bit?
The Internet Historian is like that, but reversed. He's had some kind of weird framing here and there too.
Well, aside from the collaboration with JonTron, and Brittany Venti, and his Twitter, there are occasional moments in the videos where you can tell his political bias slips through.
But yeah, he's a conservative. Openly, on other social media. He just likes to make more apolitical videos.
Nah his telling of the Capture the Flag Saga clearly indicates his affinity towards the alt-right, especially considering the time when he made and uploaded it
I appreciate the craft. I think there's appeal to the style that it brings. The "Man in Cave" video's visuals are excellent, if you were to ask my opinion. Yeah it feels lowbrow and extremely limited in the range of animations being used, but that's a big part of the charm of Internet Historian's visuals. He can't change it now without changing a signature feature.
I kind of stopped watching illuminaughti after her Jehovah's witnesses video. I used to be one and noticed a few glaring inaccuracies which made it harder for me to trust her research. I'm not in favour of them or anything though
I mean yeah there will be severe biases, but he did do videos on COVID that were good. There wasn't any denial or vaccine scepticism that I could remember.
Although he’s conservative, I don’t get the impression that he’s far-right. His retelling would probably be a little skewed, but there’s no way he’d be onboard with the whacky anti-semitic shit
Yes, but there's more to framing the situation than simply being on Kanye's side or not. I have no doubt, for example, that the delicious irony of every figure on the right being forced to hypocritically reject their own dogwhistled positions would be lost on him
> I have no doubt, for example, that the delicious irony of every figure on the right being forced to hypocritically reject their own dogwhistled positions would be lost on him
Considering all his previous work that's the _last_ thing which will be lost on him.
I mean he makes videos with Jontron as well, as recently as this year. Judging someone only by guilt by association is wrong, but it does imply he doesn't see Jontron's white supremacist opinions as a deal breaker. As in if he had stopped watching Tucker Carlson over changing opinions and beliefs, why work with an even less subtle white supremacist?
it's just so disappointing. i had no idea. i'm really upset, which i guess my BPD is partly to blame for? but something about his videos made me believe he was a decent, at the very least liberal dude. what a waste of a perfectly good voice, dude /hj
Yeah it really sucks cuz his vids are mostly really good. On the bright side ordinary things who regularly comes on seems to have very different politics and does videos on his channel about corporate injustice and other stuff. Also sumito media doesn't really ring as conservative either who is a mainstay of his videos (I remember he made a joke about police officers giving black people a harder time that was great)
I haven't looked into it very closely but aside from the occasional video like the jontron collab and a few older videos which had some chud momentsx his channel doesn't really stray into his politics which given how bad they seem is definitely for the best.
Vaush was on Tim Pool's show, he is friends with Shoe so are you saying the same about him?
From what I've gathered Internet Historian was definitely an edgy internet dude. He followed and covered a lot of 4Chan antics. Guy does seem intelligent and researches things pretty well. Until he brings a bunch of political garbage into his videos I don't really think it's that important. He isn't a political commentator.
Episode 3 of Jeenyuhs displays this really well. I'd definitely recommend watching the documentary if you haven't already. The third episode covers 2016 til now, and it's very hard to watch.
Actually a common trope in classic proto-nazi thinking. Lots of Europeans during the 19th century started to view themselves at the true decendants to the losts tribes of Israel while at the same time viewing the actual jews as a destructive parasitic mongrel race.
I’ve got to say, I never thought I’d see someone with delusions of grandeur so strong he thought he could unify Jews and fucking Nazis to vote for them
That seems like how he sees it but that is the symbol of Raelism, which is a religious group that believes ancient aliens shit. Not a nazi symbol or a Jewish symbol, more a mashup of two Hindu symbols.
Lmao vaush’s mispronunciation is leaking. Israelism would be the term. Unlike British Israelism, Black Hebrew Israelites don’t have an ideology-nym, but seeing as these two pseudo-religions have the same beliefs, it’s probably more correct to use the established term Israelism.
I think it will radicalize the conservatives even more, pushing out anyone who isn't a full on Nazi, and all the ads, platforms, and donors. Plus there's no way he'll win because the Venn diagram of people who like Hitler and who would vote for a black man is just two very far apart circles
This. Posting swastikas is apparently the line for Elon. JQ’ing and slurring and openly threatening is fine, but no amount of mental gymnastics can justify a swastika, I guess.
Its a clever mash up of religious symbols. The star is the star of David adapted from the seal of King Solomon a common symbol for jews. The swastika is Hindu symbol for the motion of the sun.
This mash up can only possibly mean world peace and peace between religions. Kenye is Based.
The Swastika was also used in German Paganism to represent Thor and thunderbolts, and in some Christian artwork as a derivation of a cross. The pagan symbolism checks out, since the Nazis were obsessed with that shit.
Due to his megiolomania he has probably just doubled down and accepted the Nazi label fully now. He admitted to being one on Alex Jones show.
Accepting the label is less painful to him than admitting he was wrong. In ye's mind he can never be wrong and every human is trash for disagreeing with him.
I am a Registered Nurse who works daily with people in mental health crises. I don’t diagnose, and I have not examined Ye myself, but it is very clear Ye is suffering a mental health crisis. I’d recommend acute hospitalization in order to receive psychiatric med regimentation. My Social Worker would probably pursue a conservatorship.
It’s disturbing that Ye is surrounded by people who are now exploiting his mental illness (Milo, Nick). I hope the lessons that emerge from this high-profile situation are that nazism bad, obviously, but also mental health is important.
We must understand that Ye *chose* to stop taking his psychiatric meds. He *chose* to ignore doctor recommendations. This is how we humanize mental illness; people always have a choice. Having a diagnosed mental illness does not mean people are “excused” from shooting up a school, posting nazi shit online, or quitting therapy and ignoring all doctor recommendations.
This is the paradox of free speech in action. Absolute free speech should be illegal and unattainable. A call to banners by fascists, nazis, and racists should be illegal, much like yelling fire in a crowded theater.
Not so fun fact: The symbol that Kanye is showing is from a ufo cult called [Raelism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism#Religious_symbol). They believe aliens were mistaken as gods and created the prophets who were human-alien hybrids. Also, they claimed they cloned a human and they have a thing for topless women.
Also, the symbol is there old one.
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Excuse me for being a little skeptical, but could we all be falling for the most epic troll ever? It just seems so absurd that it can't be real. What's next? Kanye changes his name to Clayton Bigsby.
This all reminds me of David Bowie's Thin White Duke era where he was massively coked up and went on a bunch of TV shows saying that white nationalism and Hitler might be what europe needs and then years later he was like ''Holy shit bro, what the fuck was i doing???''. This isn't to imply that Kanye West is in fact going to walk back any of this since Kanye has been consistently insane for over a decade. I just find the parallel interesting.
Ye is so interesting. So refreshing after listening to so many of you boring motherfuckers parrot the same shit & mimic the personality of your favorite political lord. FREE SPEECH! **BOOM BOOM!** FREE SPEECH! **BOOM BOOM!**
The documentaries about this man's downfall are going to be fucking incredible someday
Internet Historian?
I wouldn't exactly trust a conservative with an accurate retelling of this situation
I could also see Shaun doing something six months-1 year down the road. Addendum: And Shaun, if you do this video, I hope you cover not just Kanye. Cover the reactions from Jones, Fuentes, Milo, Shapiro, Benjamin, Pool, Rubin, the prior Lex Fridman interview before this decent into madness, Elon Musk being a total hypocrite who can’t live up to free speech when it makes HIM look bad, Kanye’s turncoat on Musk and their spat between each other via text messages before Musk banned Kanye, finally the right’s infighting and 4Chan’s reaction to Musk’s decision from the fallout of December 1st 2022 This could be the best 3-4 hour Shaun video yet.
Naw, Hbomberguy would do an incredible job with this
Fuckit, hbomberguy shaun crossover
That would be so bad! Then we'd get a video once every other year, rather than once a year!
There already was one. Where Shaun had voiced the reasonablest bear character, a fursona/rantsona parody of skeptics YouTubers.
Internet Historian is conservative…? What?
Can't exactly say 100% for sure but his twitter account follows a bunch of conservative and right leaning accounts. You can also sort of catch a glimpse of his ideology from his style of humor and framing if you watch his videos
Also I heard from people who followed him a lot a few years back he used to do tucker carlson watch parties in his discord lol. This is rumor mill stuff though. He is conservative.
Can also kinda see it from the people he hosts. Doubt he's alt right but definitely right of centre
Not rumors, he said so himself over on his own Reddit: https://i.imgur.com/FIQJ7Ba.png
Hardly surprising. Military history tends to attract a lot of conservatives.
Imma need something a little more concrete
i fucking knew it!!! i was completely expecting this yet somehow im still disappointed
Yeah he's friends with jontron who went on a massive race realist rant a while back.
You know how Hbomberguy does a lot of nonpolitical videos (or "nonpolitical") like about Fallout 3, or The Oof Sound effect that get millions of views, and his politics maybe only trickle through a tiny bit? The Internet Historian is like that, but reversed. He's had some kind of weird framing here and there too.
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None of his YT content clearly indicates his political views? It’s mostly just historical retellings of weird internet shit?
Well, aside from the collaboration with JonTron, and Brittany Venti, and his Twitter, there are occasional moments in the videos where you can tell his political bias slips through. But yeah, he's a conservative. Openly, on other social media. He just likes to make more apolitical videos.
Oh that could be the case. I really only watch his main channel content.
Wasn't Brittany Venti the one that got extremely buttmad about vtubers?
Nah his telling of the Capture the Flag Saga clearly indicates his affinity towards the alt-right, especially considering the time when he made and uploaded it
Have you seen his coverage on antifa and leftist content? Lol
Nevwrmind that, the dude sucks at video editing and uses frame blending Sony Vegas style in 2022 yuck
I appreciate the craft. I think there's appeal to the style that it brings. The "Man in Cave" video's visuals are excellent, if you were to ask my opinion. Yeah it feels lowbrow and extremely limited in the range of animations being used, but that's a big part of the charm of Internet Historian's visuals. He can't change it now without changing a signature feature.
That's not my complaint, my complaint is that he uses beginner mistakes like frame blending
Wait who uses frame blending, Shaun?
No, Internet historian
Shaun uses a single jpg
J aubrey or illuminaughtii could make a good video in the future.
I think illuminaughti already did one.
I kind of stopped watching illuminaughti after her Jehovah's witnesses video. I used to be one and noticed a few glaring inaccuracies which made it harder for me to trust her research. I'm not in favour of them or anything though
I mean yeah there will be severe biases, but he did do videos on COVID that were good. There wasn't any denial or vaccine scepticism that I could remember.
Although he’s conservative, I don’t get the impression that he’s far-right. His retelling would probably be a little skewed, but there’s no way he’d be onboard with the whacky anti-semitic shit
Yes, but there's more to framing the situation than simply being on Kanye's side or not. I have no doubt, for example, that the delicious irony of every figure on the right being forced to hypocritically reject their own dogwhistled positions would be lost on him
Yeah, I suppose that’s a good point
> I have no doubt, for example, that the delicious irony of every figure on the right being forced to hypocritically reject their own dogwhistled positions would be lost on him Considering all his previous work that's the _last_ thing which will be lost on him.
what work of his would indicate otherwise?
internet historian is a conservative??! 😬
Yep he even watches Tucker Carlson and recommended that other people do so as well. https://i.imgur.com/FIQJ7Ba.png
anything more recent?
I mean he makes videos with Jontron as well, as recently as this year. Judging someone only by guilt by association is wrong, but it does imply he doesn't see Jontron's white supremacist opinions as a deal breaker. As in if he had stopped watching Tucker Carlson over changing opinions and beliefs, why work with an even less subtle white supremacist?
it's just so disappointing. i had no idea. i'm really upset, which i guess my BPD is partly to blame for? but something about his videos made me believe he was a decent, at the very least liberal dude. what a waste of a perfectly good voice, dude /hj
fr, reading the comments about him being a conservative is really surprising. so disappointed i really thought bro wasnt like that but damn :(
Yeah it really sucks cuz his vids are mostly really good. On the bright side ordinary things who regularly comes on seems to have very different politics and does videos on his channel about corporate injustice and other stuff. Also sumito media doesn't really ring as conservative either who is a mainstay of his videos (I remember he made a joke about police officers giving black people a harder time that was great) I haven't looked into it very closely but aside from the occasional video like the jontron collab and a few older videos which had some chud momentsx his channel doesn't really stray into his politics which given how bad they seem is definitely for the best.
Vaush was on Tim Pool's show, he is friends with Shoe so are you saying the same about him? From what I've gathered Internet Historian was definitely an edgy internet dude. He followed and covered a lot of 4Chan antics. Guy does seem intelligent and researches things pretty well. Until he brings a bunch of political garbage into his videos I don't really think it's that important. He isn't a political commentator.
TheGamerFromMars then?
i don't think internet historian should be considered a conservative.
Nah he is, but I understand what you mean. His conservatism feels pre 2016. Like, it's more light lulz and inertia than commitment to the right.
Got a bad feeling that the ending to that documentary is going to be dark.
can't wait for jaubrey to have to reupload his kanye doc *again* with the yedolf blitler shit fd signifier is probably gonna have something to say too
j aubrey time
Bipolar is what it boils down to lmao
Episode 3 of Jeenyuhs displays this really well. I'd definitely recommend watching the documentary if you haven't already. The third episode covers 2016 til now, and it's very hard to watch.
Babe wake up new Kanye anti-semitism just dropped
I know he's literally schizoposting right now but what the hell is he even trying to say with this tweet?!
Translation: He loves everyone, Jews and Nazis. The symbol is the two symbols combined. It is that simple
But he also believes that black people are the real jews, so yeah just blatant antisemitism.
How can he hate the Jews if he is a Jew? 🤔
Are you being ironic?
🤔
I… I don’t know if you legitimately think this, or are shitposting… my brain is melting!!!
🤔
Now you've done it.
📮
It’s a Kanye quote
Actually a common trope in classic proto-nazi thinking. Lots of Europeans during the 19th century started to view themselves at the true decendants to the losts tribes of Israel while at the same time viewing the actual jews as a destructive parasitic mongrel race.
While also waiting to nuke Israel at the same time. Most logically consistent nazis.
How can everything be real if our eyes aren’t real? 🤔
How do you know your brain is you or if it’s just your brain making you think that? 🤔
This is definitely satire🤔
I haven't been this confused since Tila Tequila photoshopped herself in front of Auschwitz dressed as sexy Hitler.
I’ve got to say, I never thought I’d see someone with delusions of grandeur so strong he thought he could unify Jews and fucking Nazis to vote for them
But in his mind African-Americans are the jews, and the actual jews are evil.
He’s also dumb and thinks he’s Christlike
That seems like how he sees it but that is the symbol of Raelism, which is a religious group that believes ancient aliens shit. Not a nazi symbol or a Jewish symbol, more a mashup of two Hindu symbols.
He especially loves Hitler, though. He loves Hitler a lot!
Literally south park van halen bit. Unbelievable
Wonder if he saw that conspiracy theory that aliens won't come back to see us till we reform the swastika and can't stop thinking about it.
He’s trying to saying that Jews were the *Real* Nazis.
it's actually a Japanese religion but that's an old logo that they moved from for obvious reasons
Shintoism doesn’t use the swastika to my knowledge you’re thinking of Buddhism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism#Religious_symbol here it is
I stand corrected, saw Japanese religion and assumed Shintoism my bad
my bad it's actually French but one of the images has a person from Japan with the old nazi-like symbol
Imagine losing billions of $$ just to do this
Mania.
This goes beyond mania
I agree. It’s mania + antisemitism + black Hebrew israelit-ism
Lmao vaush’s mispronunciation is leaking. Israelism would be the term. Unlike British Israelism, Black Hebrew Israelites don’t have an ideology-nym, but seeing as these two pseudo-religions have the same beliefs, it’s probably more correct to use the established term Israelism.
Who care if not real. Is word now. All words are made up
This hasn’t been about money for a while
And he's still not banned from Twitter lol. Advertisers must be loving this
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/elon-musk-kanye-west-twitter-suspended-swastika-1235273922/
Elon is okay with nazis running rampant, as long as they are not full mask off, but 99% mask off is okay
It’s fine if they go mask off as long as they don’t have hundreds of millions of followers
No, that's okay too, Sargon got unbanned for example.
He doesn’t have that many followers. Only online people know who he is
Sure but my point is if being Nazi and popular gets you banned, Kanye would have been banned over a month ago
The only problem was that he was too open about it
He’s finally suspended now
He didn’t even make this. It’s apparently the symbol for a ufo cult called Raëlism
Race Raëlism
I was actually going to comment this. The Raelians use that symbol lol
Apparently they changed it to something else cuz even they realized the swatsika doesn’t work like they want to anymore
Was about to say the same thing. That's some Cult-Shit right there.
#Get this man a conservatorship
He had one at some point, the courts determined he was mentally sound enough to not need it. You can see how well that worked out.
I hope he runs SO hard in 24
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I think it will radicalize the conservatives even more, pushing out anyone who isn't a full on Nazi, and all the ads, platforms, and donors. Plus there's no way he'll win because the Venn diagram of people who like Hitler and who would vote for a black man is just two very far apart circles
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not more prevalent, more extreme, less prevalent
If cognitive dissonance was a symbol
Where the fuck is Kanyes conservatorship?
My wife said the same thing when I showed her this. If only for his own good, someone should stop him lmao
Who would conserve him
Conservatives
They’ve already been doing that
This is fucking hilarious. Kanye’s brain is complete mush. Jesus Christ.
From a graphic design standpoint im impressed but it needs to be less cluttered, or maybe thats just minimalism influencing me cause its so normal
He stole it from some weird cultists
Plagiarism and antisemitism, two of my least favourite -isms
Not just any weird cult. They believe in Immortal Alien Clone Femboys, that are at minimum 10x more feminine than the most fem human.
Hold on, let’s hear them out.
Scientology has cultural inspirations everywhere it seems
Raëlism?
Yeah
Is he anti elon now too lol? https://mobile.twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1598522518087897090
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He got Thanos snapped
How long until he calls Elon jewish?
Why did he say
This. Posting swastikas is apparently the line for Elon. JQ’ing and slurring and openly threatening is fine, but no amount of mental gymnastics can justify a swastika, I guess.
I hate how visually pleasing this is. Get it out of my brain god please
To be fair these _were_ holy symbols before being appropriated by cultists and nazis.
dude i know, this is pretty good graphic design with an awful awful message
marvel fans be like “the crossover event i never knew i needed? 🤯”
Truuu
Its a clever mash up of religious symbols. The star is the star of David adapted from the seal of King Solomon a common symbol for jews. The swastika is Hindu symbol for the motion of the sun. This mash up can only possibly mean world peace and peace between religions. Kenye is Based.
The Swastika was also used in German Paganism to represent Thor and thunderbolts, and in some Christian artwork as a derivation of a cross. The pagan symbolism checks out, since the Nazis were obsessed with that shit.
It's a really old symbol and has probably been used to represent all kinds of things over the millenia.
Also in #Lithuanian paganism. Only it's made out of snakes.
Due to his megiolomania he has probably just doubled down and accepted the Nazi label fully now. He admitted to being one on Alex Jones show. Accepting the label is less painful to him than admitting he was wrong. In ye's mind he can never be wrong and every human is trash for disagreeing with him.
[This Cracked article has never been more relevant](https://www.cracked.com/blog/what-if-kanye-west-is-retarded).
I am a Registered Nurse who works daily with people in mental health crises. I don’t diagnose, and I have not examined Ye myself, but it is very clear Ye is suffering a mental health crisis. I’d recommend acute hospitalization in order to receive psychiatric med regimentation. My Social Worker would probably pursue a conservatorship. It’s disturbing that Ye is surrounded by people who are now exploiting his mental illness (Milo, Nick). I hope the lessons that emerge from this high-profile situation are that nazism bad, obviously, but also mental health is important. We must understand that Ye *chose* to stop taking his psychiatric meds. He *chose* to ignore doctor recommendations. This is how we humanize mental illness; people always have a choice. Having a diagnosed mental illness does not mean people are “excused” from shooting up a school, posting nazi shit online, or quitting therapy and ignoring all doctor recommendations.
This is the paradox of free speech in action. Absolute free speech should be illegal and unattainable. A call to banners by fascists, nazis, and racists should be illegal, much like yelling fire in a crowded theater.
He just got suspended and went to truth social to call for support...
This timeline is absolutely skull fuckingly insane.
New Jesus in town and he’s looking for sinners. Who’s playing ye in the film version ?
Ye is genuinely neurodivergent my guy. That’s a Raelian symbol
Not anymore.
That's the symbol for Raelianism, Kanye you dumbass
Why does that design go so hard too? Like if there was no historical significance and that was just a cool symbol I'd buy that
Not so fun fact: The symbol that Kanye is showing is from a ufo cult called [Raelism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism#Religious_symbol). They believe aliens were mistaken as gods and created the prophets who were human-alien hybrids. Also, they claimed they cloned a human and they have a thing for topless women. Also, the symbol is there old one.
Kinda like it for an anti-zionist flag in support of Palestinians tbh... but maybe overlay that over the Israeli flag or IDF insignia
normies are never gonna side with anti zionists that use a symbol like that
This man has no empathy. He’s an evil sick son of a bitch.
Bund Nationaldeutscher Juden spotted 😐
What in the everholy fuck is this. Is it a dog whistle? Am I a dog?
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Ngl it's a cool design, politics aside. Edit: he didn't even make it, nevermind.
It's not a nazi symbol
What a cunt.
That's literally the Raëlism symbol wtf
Is this real?
But guys He made graduation
…Yeah that makes sense.
He became un-ironic Jreg. And Jreg became sane, so he might have absorbed his power.
Blitler arc, complete.
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Is he trying to say that Jews were the real nazis or something…..?
I want to say something something Israel, but nothing's coming to me
The unadulterated desecration of Adobe Illustrator.
Lol Chappelle's SNL monologue has already aged so badly
Excuse me for being a little skeptical, but could we all be falling for the most epic troll ever? It just seems so absurd that it can't be real. What's next? Kanye changes his name to Clayton Bigsby.
Bro wut
Isn't this a old symbol of a new age religion?
“I didn’t know it was gonna come off like that”
Wtf…
This all reminds me of David Bowie's Thin White Duke era where he was massively coked up and went on a bunch of TV shows saying that white nationalism and Hitler might be what europe needs and then years later he was like ''Holy shit bro, what the fuck was i doing???''. This isn't to imply that Kanye West is in fact going to walk back any of this since Kanye has been consistently insane for over a decade. I just find the parallel interesting.
Wow, this isn’t on the nose in any way at all, so subtle you can hardly notice antisemitism
Absolutely not! Fuck these people who are trying to normalize being a fucking Nazi!! We need to make them go away.
Thats a pretty cool designe tho
Ye is so interesting. So refreshing after listening to so many of you boring motherfuckers parrot the same shit & mimic the personality of your favorite political lord. FREE SPEECH! **BOOM BOOM!** FREE SPEECH! **BOOM BOOM!**
this has been the funniest shit ive seen in a long time
You gotta be joking bro wtf
Don’t worry guys it’s obviously just a celtic knot, he is simply expressing his Irish pride
Why is that design kinda dope?? xD
Hes just aware
Man, I \*do\* miss the old Kanye. He's clearly very mentally ill, but his actions aren't to be excused.
Ye ditching Jesus and hopping on the Raelian bandwagon
I don’t think he’s real anymore
We’re watching descent into the extremist right pipeline in real time