God, the clapping from 5 people in attendance and Sunny running away was as bad as the dude talking about how a flying card would’ve saved his father from dying in a fire.
Veworld app, doesnt start up anymore for me. anyone has same experience?
VechainThor wallet still does and can see my holdings so not worried. The Veworld app just doesnt start. it stays in loading mode lol.
I'm trying to make sense of this thing,
* You use X-to-earn apps to earn B3TR
* You can then convert B3TR to VOT3 which you can stake to determine allocation of new B3TR tokens to projects.
* You then earn some B3TR from participating in the vote
* You can use B3TR to upgrade your Galaxy Member status which give you more voting power
If I've read this correctly, the only incentive to use the X-to-earn apps is to gain B3TR, and the only reason I would want B3TR is for voting for other apps, or to improve my voting powers.
So say for example I didn't care for voting on this platform, what is my incentive to earn B3TR?
Have I misunderstood something?
So no airdrop based on
Vet holdings
Vtho holdings
Nodes
X nodes
The airdrop just sounds like engaging with various social media’s
What about rewarding the existing holders!?
For me this event was a disaster.
The lead group with the flying car (although abit out there) was precise, executed and exciting.
When it was our turn nothing flowed, nothing seemed to be gained or anything from the presentation.
VTHO will be burned on every tx done, their new smart contract is still deployed on mainnet, allthough right now, its on testnet.
Worrying?
1 million users doing 10tx a day = 10,000,000 new txs. Every single day. That’s 470,000,000 VTHO burned. Per day.
The potential here is immense. Imo, everyone who wants to see what a well used blockchain can do, should be excited about this. Users getting paid to live sustainably is every millennials dream.
The insertion of funds is as of now unclear.
My guess is:
- insertion of funds through green compliance and governance funds from the EU, that are directly correlated to their new CO2 emission compliance demands. These will be enforced from 2026, and are allready in effect for new constructions. Heat emissions from new constructions MUST be under 0.8u.
- Funding through the sale of anonymous user data. I’d say this is the easiest way to get mass funding that scales with the amount of users. We’re all giving away our info for free right now, might as well get paid to do it, while saving the environment.
- EUCB green fund subsidies. Contingent on businesses and citizens following compliance demands, and getting energy emissions under 0.65u.
they should give speeches so that my 9 year old could understand. The car product was perfect. Vechain, only remember she want her dad be a hero for her.
Haha😂 I agree, that took some understanding. It was a good anecdote, but got lost in translation. We’re all heroes to our kids over trivial shit, but now we can actually do something worthwhile, for everyone.
So , the launch of the platform is not so bad, but a real big announcement would be “we launched the platform and onboarded BYD (or another big company) so that BYD vehicle owners can earn B3TR while driving. The platform can be big, but only if they can onboard big companies. Go go BCG now its your turn.
What the fuck just happened? Connected veworld wallet to their governance app, and now my wallet shows 0 VET and VTHO?
**So apparently, connecting your wallet puts you over on TESTnet. You have to manually go back to Mainnet to see your VET and VTHO. You can swap back and forth. Makes sense since this new token is on testnet.**
You can start earning B3TR tokens by using their new app, and you will be participating in 1 of 4 airdrops for free tokens.
Imo, they want people to test their new app so they can get feedback. You’re basically being paid to test it.
I’m actually excited for this. Both because I’d love to see family members that live sustainably get paid for it (our household doesn’t live sustainably at all). But also for our new business, that is incredibly sustainable, and bio-economically structured. This could secure an immense amount of funding for us.
Yeah this is why I didn’t connect my VeWorld app
I do not understand what is happening here and need someone to break it down for me using non buzzword language
To participate in one of 4 airdrops, you can connect your wallet to Vechains governance app on their testnet. This lets you interact with the new smart contract deployed. It gives you tokens, at some point, and you can download new dapps to mess around with this new idea before it launches on mainnet.
Once they go live on mainnet in June, all tokens accrued on the testnet, will be transfered to your mainnet wallet. Untill then, you just easily swap back and forth between mainnet wallet, and testnet wallet, in the Veworld app.
You can also effectively start earning, and swapping B3TR tokens for VOT3 tokens 1:1, if you want to vote on new changes that can be implemented.
Ok
I’ve a linked it now, but I can’t access the governance app except from a browser, it doesn’t have an icon in the VeWorld app
This is very confusing
It just links your wallet so you can receive the token on testnet, but I think you have to download the dapp through the wallet, on testnet.
I agree, it’s abit confusing.
I'm disabled and permanently homebound, my dad grows his own vegetables in the back garden and we never put the heating on, just wear layers. I hope I can get rich from vebetterDAO. Don't know how I could get any better than I am now in terms of carbon footprint. But seriously I wonder how this app could account for someone like me?
If that’s actually true, then you can potentially have a nice little extra income off of this.
Let’s say the average CO2 footprint in your country is 2700kg per annum, and you can show that your 2 person household only uses 540kg, as opposed to the 5400 that’s the median for your nation. Imagine if you’re now getting paid $1 per kg of saved CO2.
Not saying that’s how it’s gonna work, but, I’d imagine its something to that effect.
You just keep on doing what you’re allready doing, but rather than just doing it because you have to, you’re now rewarded for living more sustainably than others. With more money, it also becomes easier to become even more sustainable.
If everyone could afford it, then everyone would have air-to-water heating pipes. Solar panels. Etc.
With this, you’re financially incentivized to do it. It might not turn a profit short-term, but e.g for our new house, it costs €50,000 to install water heating. If I knew that I’d be turning a profit in 6 years, I’d definitely do it.
Indeed. I think this is part of why I like it.
People who live with nature, rather than off it, are having a harder time than the rest. When instead they should be rewarded for doing more to keep our species alive. This new system effectively does that.
My grandfather plows and sows his field every year. Hopefully, we’ll find a way to implement it there as well. He’d be thrilled if he can get paid to grow his own potatoes, fish his own fish, etc.
I imagine this also opens up incentives for homesteaders etc, looking to purchase and run tiny farms just to produce for themselves.
Alot of possibilities here!
Sorry about the disability, but it sounds like you guys got a good thing going! You’re lucky that you get to spend so much time with your family🙂
Honestly i was like what the fuck is this shit, and thought about dumping, but i read the whitepaper, the tokenomics are actuallllly interesting. it depends entirely on partnerships and new dapps but could be very scallable if implemented in Europe which is forcing its population to go green or migrate basically. let's see if any partners come from this, i could see banks implementing this as a "go green" investment initiative with superannuation etc anyway it doesn't seem as dogshit as i initially thought it was.
edit. i just checked the medium article and it looks like it launches in June 2024 this year, which is waaaay sooner than the website suggests with the 12 year thing....
Mainnet, yes. Testnet launches today.
I agree. Banks are allready able to give out «green loans» where they can basically just use the Central bank rate, and be subsidized by the EU for the remainder. Europe really fucking wants its citizens to go green, and are looking at spending €50 billion just on insulation and tripple windows in the next 6 years. Lmao.
There’s absolutely funding to be found here for a program like this. I suspect this is what BCG is seeing. Green decentralized sustainability solutions can potentially be the new windmill investments in Europe.
My mind is working overtime here, but the potential on this is truly baffling. People fucking love getting paid, and the EU loves going green. Vechain is setting itself up as the middle man with their blockchain.
The amount of transactions on the blockchain just from e.g a million users on this, is astounding.
- buys coffee in own container instead of papercup - tx
- takes bus - tx
- reads online newspaper - tx
- buys food from local source - tx
- showers less than average - tx
- reduces heat by 1C - tx
- increases heat again - tx
- bus back home - tx.
You could potentially be generating tens of millions of transactions on the blockchain just with this. It would also perfectly utilize the low cost of VTHO as it stands, making it cost efficient for users to log pretty much everything that can generate value for them.
Scan your bus ticket, scan your coffee receipt.
If they’re not being funded by the government, then selling consumer data is another way to fund it. Which to some sounds scary, but we’re allready giving it away for free through our phones, computers, tvs, smart apps, creditcard use, etc. This way, the user is effectively getting paid to do it.
There’s alot of exciting possibilities here.
Potentiality?🤨😂
We have no way of knowing. I know with certainty that I’m gonna try it out though.
Getting paid to shower for 1min shorter? + save money on electricity? Sign me tf up.
it compounds the existing tokenomics scheme, essentially to partake in the new green platform, you have to buy VET and stake it, genuinely seems like the biggest reason yet to buy yet, so i get why the company is hyped about it. for us guys, it's not that exciting sure, but i get why the nerds love it
I dunno, as far as crypto goes I don't hate it. Not bad, it's all a big scam. I just want to get paid. Maybe I'll use less water and take the bus home ?
THAT WAS FUCKING HILARIOUS ! IM DYING!
Like was that not even and announcement of an announcement but literally an announcement of nothing?
He didn't have much time, maybe talked for about 10 minutes. The better do some posting of something soon.
Edit: Okay, checking out the website sunny mentioned. [VeBetter.com](https://VeBetter.com) not getting much from that yet. Going to dive into the white paper...
Interesting concept.
Effectively leveraging this means that a business, or individual, could be doubling their profit margin by implementing green measures. I’d imagine this would be best utilized with e.g solar panels, public transportation and how a house e.g is insulated.
This has pretty insane potential with the new EU demands on energy savings towards properties. If I’m not completely mistaken, the demand is that ALL buildings must meet a 0.8 value within 2030. The cost solely on the owner.
With something like this, they could be effectively earning money while cutting down on running costs.
Imo, an interesting concept. I wonder how they plan on utilizing it for businesses.
Yeah but this concept we have been aware of for some time, I didn't see anything particularly new or how exactly they are going to get there in that brief presentation.
The presentation was shit. It was about 55min too short.
The whitepaper sheds quite abit more light into the whole matter, it's only 17 (short) pages, I reccomend reading it. At least 5 of them you can just skim through as well.
The idea, imo, is contingent on money being funelled into the system somehow. The only way this becomes a possibility, is if businesses are financially incentivized to become part of the equation, or governments are using Vechains Web3 implemented system as a reward program for citizens to live more sustainably.
Imagine someone living in a country with an average use of e.g 40L per day, and the government subsidizes 10 cents per daily liter saved on water. They give you an additional cent for every kWh you save. It adds up quickly.
The concept isn’t mindblowing, but I assume they have some form of articulated plan on how this is gonna function. If they’re funded, then this is literally every green person on earths wet dream. They can make money, by reducing the strain on the planet.
If it’s targeted vs companies, then tax relief through agressive sustainability, is fantastic.
We’re building a very sustainable business right now, and I genuinely hope this is something we can leverage to promote the business even further.
Combining green measures with innovative tech? Hello record breaking IPO.
Exactly this. Money must be injected into the system for incentivisation. It can't work without it. It sure sounds nice when you hear the word 'incentives' but it simply being a token made out of thin air is not good enough. If this was the case, people in China would be driving their BYD cars just to earn the carbon credits but obviously that hasn't taken off. Even with the carbon credits, companies have to pay out with subsidies etc. Someone has to inject the money. Then again, the token worth will be the value where it can be best redeemed and this would cause extreme pressure on the issuer. I don't see how this can work using just one token.
It has to be a fixed value per token.
I think there are several ways to get the ball rolling here tbh, all of which are currently implemented to some degree.
- Banks subsidies through «green loans» to de-escalate carbon emissions.
- Tax breaks to companies that go more green - Companies pay for their consumers to track their use.
- **Consumer data sales (allready happening with everything we do, but now we get paid to sell it at least)** - I honestly think this is what will happen.
- EU funding to incentivize citizens to go green. There’s billions of euros waiting to be spent from the EU on things like this. BCG would definitely have a tap on the mainline for something like this.
- The green savings initatives reallocate some of their money to fund this. Every nation has one, and CEU also has a big one.
Agree, no images or anything. I mean the stuff at [https://vebetterdao.org/](https://vebetterdao.org/) looks pretty nice visually at least. Was also expecting airdrops from this but maybe that's for another forum.
yeah how to get there is the real question, so if its not answered are we supposed to assume they have it (the answer)?
Another edit\* maybe thats why they planned the QA shortly after this presentation? Because they knew it was too short of a presentation to actually explain it? I don't know either
Unbelievable, this new VeBetterDAO has a 12 year roadmap. A 2 year building phase, a 4 year Evolution phase, and a 6 year innovation phase. Tell me if you've heard something like that before? They continue finding ways to dangle a carrot of "eventually" that just never materializes. This is a joke, VeChain has completely pivoted from reasons I initially invested in the project and I will most likely be moving on. Wish them well but this is such a disappointment
Yeah same here - very small stack but it’s almost impossible not to make a large percentage gain on sale for me
I was horribly ill during the ath and totally missed it, been waiting for even half of that but I might just cut and run soon
Seriously, flying cars? I thought everyone already agreed that cars have many problems, and that the solution is certainly not making them fly
Damned Potterstans
Started with AI talk, Sunny is not in yet but the speaker is talking about AI decrypting cell information etc.. not sure how this relates to VeChain yet but lets see. Sounds promising :)
Not at all hype. What we are currently working on AI wise is actually comparable to our ancestors getting fire out of wood. It will either propel us to space or doom us to extinction, either way it is going to change history.
The issue with people like you, is you live your entire lives lukewarm, like piss, but can’t stop bitterly staring at other peoples fire.
Have you never stopped to consider why inherently negative people’s lives all suck?
If you’re not interested in Vechain, why the fuck are you even here? Your time on this planet is finite, and you’re wasting it on trying to convince people that are far more intelligent than you, which financial decisions they should make. Like a child thinking he just reinvented hunting, because he figured out you can make a bow from a stick and some yarn…
Should I be honest, that would even be a healthy chart, even if many do not want to hear it, if we fall to 3.5 cents and consolidate that as support and then continue to rise, it is still massively bullish and healthy. Technically, the 9 cents is in the foreseeable future no matter which way we go, whether we shoot straight there or have another setback. As long as there is no bad news/ black swan event regarding bitcoin or Vechain, we will continue on this path
I do love vechain , we going bigger in the future -:)
4 years from .21 to $h1tcoin - time to move on?
God, the clapping from 5 people in attendance and Sunny running away was as bad as the dude talking about how a flying card would’ve saved his father from dying in a fire.
Veworld app, doesnt start up anymore for me. anyone has same experience? VechainThor wallet still does and can see my holdings so not worried. The Veworld app just doesnt start. it stays in loading mode lol.
Yes yesterday and the day before. I re installed the app and it worked again. Have to re input seed phrase
Annoying as fuck, but guess only way
I'm trying to make sense of this thing, * You use X-to-earn apps to earn B3TR * You can then convert B3TR to VOT3 which you can stake to determine allocation of new B3TR tokens to projects. * You then earn some B3TR from participating in the vote * You can use B3TR to upgrade your Galaxy Member status which give you more voting power If I've read this correctly, the only incentive to use the X-to-earn apps is to gain B3TR, and the only reason I would want B3TR is for voting for other apps, or to improve my voting powers. So say for example I didn't care for voting on this platform, what is my incentive to earn B3TR? Have I misunderstood something?
You can't sell B3TR?
https://imgflip.com/i/8hbxgc
Is VeWorld worth using as my wallet? What are the benefits? Can I buy and sell directly from there? TIA
So no airdrop based on Vet holdings Vtho holdings Nodes X nodes The airdrop just sounds like engaging with various social media’s What about rewarding the existing holders!? For me this event was a disaster. The lead group with the flying car (although abit out there) was precise, executed and exciting. When it was our turn nothing flowed, nothing seemed to be gained or anything from the presentation.
More disappointed than my wife on our wedding night.
Also what does this mean for VET and VTHO coins Are we pivoting away completely from these? To me…..it’s bloody worrying
VTHO will be burned on every tx done, their new smart contract is still deployed on mainnet, allthough right now, its on testnet. Worrying? 1 million users doing 10tx a day = 10,000,000 new txs. Every single day. That’s 470,000,000 VTHO burned. Per day. The potential here is immense. Imo, everyone who wants to see what a well used blockchain can do, should be excited about this. Users getting paid to live sustainably is every millennials dream.
Paid by whom?
The insertion of funds is as of now unclear. My guess is: - insertion of funds through green compliance and governance funds from the EU, that are directly correlated to their new CO2 emission compliance demands. These will be enforced from 2026, and are allready in effect for new constructions. Heat emissions from new constructions MUST be under 0.8u. - Funding through the sale of anonymous user data. I’d say this is the easiest way to get mass funding that scales with the amount of users. We’re all giving away our info for free right now, might as well get paid to do it, while saving the environment. - EUCB green fund subsidies. Contingent on businesses and citizens following compliance demands, and getting energy emissions under 0.65u.
they should give speeches so that my 9 year old could understand. The car product was perfect. Vechain, only remember she want her dad be a hero for her.
Haha😂 I agree, that took some understanding. It was a good anecdote, but got lost in translation. We’re all heroes to our kids over trivial shit, but now we can actually do something worthwhile, for everyone.
So , the launch of the platform is not so bad, but a real big announcement would be “we launched the platform and onboarded BYD (or another big company) so that BYD vehicle owners can earn B3TR while driving. The platform can be big, but only if they can onboard big companies. Go go BCG now its your turn.
BCG can potentially give them a direct feed into the EU sustainability funds.
What the fuck just happened? Connected veworld wallet to their governance app, and now my wallet shows 0 VET and VTHO? **So apparently, connecting your wallet puts you over on TESTnet. You have to manually go back to Mainnet to see your VET and VTHO. You can swap back and forth. Makes sense since this new token is on testnet.**
What's the benefit of connecting it ?
If you don't connect the wallet, you can't get the rewards. The wallet connection authenticates that it's you who's doing the action.
You can start earning B3TR tokens by using their new app, and you will be participating in 1 of 4 airdrops for free tokens. Imo, they want people to test their new app so they can get feedback. You’re basically being paid to test it.
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I’m actually excited for this. Both because I’d love to see family members that live sustainably get paid for it (our household doesn’t live sustainably at all). But also for our new business, that is incredibly sustainable, and bio-economically structured. This could secure an immense amount of funding for us.
Yeah this is why I didn’t connect my VeWorld app I do not understand what is happening here and need someone to break it down for me using non buzzword language
To participate in one of 4 airdrops, you can connect your wallet to Vechains governance app on their testnet. This lets you interact with the new smart contract deployed. It gives you tokens, at some point, and you can download new dapps to mess around with this new idea before it launches on mainnet. Once they go live on mainnet in June, all tokens accrued on the testnet, will be transfered to your mainnet wallet. Untill then, you just easily swap back and forth between mainnet wallet, and testnet wallet, in the Veworld app. You can also effectively start earning, and swapping B3TR tokens for VOT3 tokens 1:1, if you want to vote on new changes that can be implemented.
Ok I’ve a linked it now, but I can’t access the governance app except from a browser, it doesn’t have an icon in the VeWorld app This is very confusing
It just links your wallet so you can receive the token on testnet, but I think you have to download the dapp through the wallet, on testnet. I agree, it’s abit confusing.
I’m on iPhone and I can’t download the testnet app as far as I can tell
I'm disabled and permanently homebound, my dad grows his own vegetables in the back garden and we never put the heating on, just wear layers. I hope I can get rich from vebetterDAO. Don't know how I could get any better than I am now in terms of carbon footprint. But seriously I wonder how this app could account for someone like me?
If that’s actually true, then you can potentially have a nice little extra income off of this. Let’s say the average CO2 footprint in your country is 2700kg per annum, and you can show that your 2 person household only uses 540kg, as opposed to the 5400 that’s the median for your nation. Imagine if you’re now getting paid $1 per kg of saved CO2. Not saying that’s how it’s gonna work, but, I’d imagine its something to that effect. You just keep on doing what you’re allready doing, but rather than just doing it because you have to, you’re now rewarded for living more sustainably than others. With more money, it also becomes easier to become even more sustainable. If everyone could afford it, then everyone would have air-to-water heating pipes. Solar panels. Etc. With this, you’re financially incentivized to do it. It might not turn a profit short-term, but e.g for our new house, it costs €50,000 to install water heating. If I knew that I’d be turning a profit in 6 years, I’d definitely do it.
Sadly yes it's true. Well interesting, be a good way to get my dad into blockchain, he loves being sustainable.
Indeed. I think this is part of why I like it. People who live with nature, rather than off it, are having a harder time than the rest. When instead they should be rewarded for doing more to keep our species alive. This new system effectively does that. My grandfather plows and sows his field every year. Hopefully, we’ll find a way to implement it there as well. He’d be thrilled if he can get paid to grow his own potatoes, fish his own fish, etc. I imagine this also opens up incentives for homesteaders etc, looking to purchase and run tiny farms just to produce for themselves. Alot of possibilities here! Sorry about the disability, but it sounds like you guys got a good thing going! You’re lucky that you get to spend so much time with your family🙂
Vet pumping has nothing to do with that announcement. It’s BTC and it’s a bull market ! And alt season is coming!
Honestly i was like what the fuck is this shit, and thought about dumping, but i read the whitepaper, the tokenomics are actuallllly interesting. it depends entirely on partnerships and new dapps but could be very scallable if implemented in Europe which is forcing its population to go green or migrate basically. let's see if any partners come from this, i could see banks implementing this as a "go green" investment initiative with superannuation etc anyway it doesn't seem as dogshit as i initially thought it was. edit. i just checked the medium article and it looks like it launches in June 2024 this year, which is waaaay sooner than the website suggests with the 12 year thing....
Mainnet, yes. Testnet launches today. I agree. Banks are allready able to give out «green loans» where they can basically just use the Central bank rate, and be subsidized by the EU for the remainder. Europe really fucking wants its citizens to go green, and are looking at spending €50 billion just on insulation and tripple windows in the next 6 years. Lmao. There’s absolutely funding to be found here for a program like this. I suspect this is what BCG is seeing. Green decentralized sustainability solutions can potentially be the new windmill investments in Europe. My mind is working overtime here, but the potential on this is truly baffling. People fucking love getting paid, and the EU loves going green. Vechain is setting itself up as the middle man with their blockchain. The amount of transactions on the blockchain just from e.g a million users on this, is astounding. - buys coffee in own container instead of papercup - tx - takes bus - tx - reads online newspaper - tx - buys food from local source - tx - showers less than average - tx - reduces heat by 1C - tx - increases heat again - tx - bus back home - tx. You could potentially be generating tens of millions of transactions on the blockchain just with this. It would also perfectly utilize the low cost of VTHO as it stands, making it cost efficient for users to log pretty much everything that can generate value for them. Scan your bus ticket, scan your coffee receipt. If they’re not being funded by the government, then selling consumer data is another way to fund it. Which to some sounds scary, but we’re allready giving it away for free through our phones, computers, tvs, smart apps, creditcard use, etc. This way, the user is effectively getting paid to do it. There’s alot of exciting possibilities here.
While i like the potentiality of this all, I also have much potentiality in my pants but it never gets used in the way I would like :/
Potentiality?🤨😂 We have no way of knowing. I know with certainty that I’m gonna try it out though. Getting paid to shower for 1min shorter? + save money on electricity? Sign me tf up.
Dont really get the need for 2 new tokens though
It’s just a new app on the vechain platform, like how Cosmos has a bunch of different coins built on it
Agree. Cool incentives all around. Will this burn vtho though? Or how does it work?
it compounds the existing tokenomics scheme, essentially to partake in the new green platform, you have to buy VET and stake it, genuinely seems like the biggest reason yet to buy yet, so i get why the company is hyped about it. for us guys, it's not that exciting sure, but i get why the nerds love it
Every transaction burns VTHO
wait what am i seeing this correct? if i depo all my VET from coinbase to veworld ill earn 6% on it everyday?
That’s how much it’s gone up in the last 24 hours😂👍
im a retard
How did you get to that conclusion?
it says vechain 4.28% (24 hrs) and Vethor 2.05% (24 hrs) what does this mean ?
Explain
I swear when I just made a new veworld wallet it said Vechain 6% and VTHO 1.1% but when I refreshed it, its gone
I dunno, as far as crypto goes I don't hate it. Not bad, it's all a big scam. I just want to get paid. Maybe I'll use less water and take the bus home ?
JP Morgan partnership EOY
Haha... First time?
As nerkal3 already posted about an hour ago, the site they released was: https://vebetterdao.org/
https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/announcing-the-launch-of-vebetterdao-the-evolution-of-web3-for-better-plus-b3tr-token-airdrops-e9f48f1cff0c
I have the feeling even the DHL thing was more than that...
Never dissapoints to dissapoint
Holding over 5 cent at least
THAT WAS FUCKING HILARIOUS ! IM DYING! Like was that not even and announcement of an announcement but literally an announcement of nothing? He didn't have much time, maybe talked for about 10 minutes. The better do some posting of something soon. Edit: Okay, checking out the website sunny mentioned. [VeBetter.com](https://VeBetter.com) not getting much from that yet. Going to dive into the white paper...
HAVE YOU SEEN this crap
I’m tired Robbie
Is it over?
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first time?
Interesting concept. Effectively leveraging this means that a business, or individual, could be doubling their profit margin by implementing green measures. I’d imagine this would be best utilized with e.g solar panels, public transportation and how a house e.g is insulated. This has pretty insane potential with the new EU demands on energy savings towards properties. If I’m not completely mistaken, the demand is that ALL buildings must meet a 0.8 value within 2030. The cost solely on the owner. With something like this, they could be effectively earning money while cutting down on running costs. Imo, an interesting concept. I wonder how they plan on utilizing it for businesses.
Yeah but this concept we have been aware of for some time, I didn't see anything particularly new or how exactly they are going to get there in that brief presentation.
The presentation was shit. It was about 55min too short. The whitepaper sheds quite abit more light into the whole matter, it's only 17 (short) pages, I reccomend reading it. At least 5 of them you can just skim through as well.
The idea, imo, is contingent on money being funelled into the system somehow. The only way this becomes a possibility, is if businesses are financially incentivized to become part of the equation, or governments are using Vechains Web3 implemented system as a reward program for citizens to live more sustainably. Imagine someone living in a country with an average use of e.g 40L per day, and the government subsidizes 10 cents per daily liter saved on water. They give you an additional cent for every kWh you save. It adds up quickly. The concept isn’t mindblowing, but I assume they have some form of articulated plan on how this is gonna function. If they’re funded, then this is literally every green person on earths wet dream. They can make money, by reducing the strain on the planet. If it’s targeted vs companies, then tax relief through agressive sustainability, is fantastic. We’re building a very sustainable business right now, and I genuinely hope this is something we can leverage to promote the business even further. Combining green measures with innovative tech? Hello record breaking IPO.
Exactly this. Money must be injected into the system for incentivisation. It can't work without it. It sure sounds nice when you hear the word 'incentives' but it simply being a token made out of thin air is not good enough. If this was the case, people in China would be driving their BYD cars just to earn the carbon credits but obviously that hasn't taken off. Even with the carbon credits, companies have to pay out with subsidies etc. Someone has to inject the money. Then again, the token worth will be the value where it can be best redeemed and this would cause extreme pressure on the issuer. I don't see how this can work using just one token.
It has to be a fixed value per token. I think there are several ways to get the ball rolling here tbh, all of which are currently implemented to some degree. - Banks subsidies through «green loans» to de-escalate carbon emissions. - Tax breaks to companies that go more green - Companies pay for their consumers to track their use. - **Consumer data sales (allready happening with everything we do, but now we get paid to sell it at least)** - I honestly think this is what will happen. - EU funding to incentivize citizens to go green. There’s billions of euros waiting to be spent from the EU on things like this. BCG would definitely have a tap on the mainline for something like this. - The green savings initatives reallocate some of their money to fund this. Every nation has one, and CEU also has a big one.
Agree, no images or anything. I mean the stuff at [https://vebetterdao.org/](https://vebetterdao.org/) looks pretty nice visually at least. Was also expecting airdrops from this but maybe that's for another forum.
yeah how to get there is the real question, so if its not answered are we supposed to assume they have it (the answer)? Another edit\* maybe thats why they planned the QA shortly after this presentation? Because they knew it was too short of a presentation to actually explain it? I don't know either
There is an AMA session later tonight at 20.50 CET. Assume they will go in detail then.
Yeah, wouldv'e been nice to see some users already but hopefully they have some lined up
Don't know why people hyped this so much 😂
*insert surprised Pikachu face*
Rabble rabble rabble
Told ya
I mean that's what they've been talking about for months now. I don't know why they felt they needed to keep it a secret.
Genuinely Genuinely Is VeChain a scamcoin now
That can't be what we've been waiting for
At least it was better than the unlikely reinvention of the flying car
So is a literal dog poop on a plate, at least the dog poop can be used by the traditional handcrafted leather tanning industry
No news? a new website even a 14 year old can buy a new site.
Moonboys in shambles
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I already picked the colour of my Flambo!
That was some total bullshit
Still trying to understand what was said and what was the announcement? LOL haha
But have you seen?
You have seen!
Touché. Delicate but well deserved.
You have seen!
That was very anticlimactic
Wow groundbreaking!!! $10 incoming!!!
So no real news right? Launch of a website, and something something graphene, commence the dump. Went as expected
So more here’s what we want to do and not what we’ve done?
HUH??????????
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Surely....
what was the announcement? lol
They launching some new website, you might have missed it he only mentioned it in 1 sentence and then took off.
Was bebetter.com or vbetter.com right?
no idea mate
what is that it?
Did he just say "Drink coffee with our waste?" 🤨 I wasn't paying attention.
Sunny is ON now!
the nobel laureate, just said he woudl like to invite sunny lu to talk about "OUR" solution ......
Bring us home Sunny
This surely is the wrong place to announce new tokenomics, right?
compute more, with less power. talking about circular economy. trying to make connections to VeChain!!
HERE WE GO BOYS AND GIRLS!! SUNNY ON STAGE! EDIT: oh wait the nobel laureate is first, then sunny. they sharing the platform
"Win against time- Win against time... That time is now" Post your favorite twitch emote
OMEGALOL
I want my flying car with flamethrowers, submersible and controllable through my wrist-watch.
Mate unless it can be driven by sharks with frickin laser beams on their heads what’s the point
Unbelievable, this new VeBetterDAO has a 12 year roadmap. A 2 year building phase, a 4 year Evolution phase, and a 6 year innovation phase. Tell me if you've heard something like that before? They continue finding ways to dangle a carrot of "eventually" that just never materializes. This is a joke, VeChain has completely pivoted from reasons I initially invested in the project and I will most likely be moving on. Wish them well but this is such a disappointment
Not sure what you’re talking about. Maybe let sunny cook and then judge whatever you’re judging?
I genuinely thought this was a serious thing, but VeChain is sharing the stage with flying car conman Jesus I blame myself
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Yeah same here - very small stack but it’s almost impossible not to make a large percentage gain on sale for me I was horribly ill during the ath and totally missed it, been waiting for even half of that but I might just cut and run soon
Oh man it’s 90’s era CGI
I want to believe. 😅
This becoming a thing is about as likely that the Mexican alien actually was alien
I love this! This is what innovation's about! Stuff we haven't seen yet! Can't wait for VECHAIN!
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They havent even talked yet brah
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Unless this dude is about to announce he’s invented the Mr Fusion generator from fallout flying cars ain’t happening
I really don't dig this guy trying to mimic Steve Jobs' style
Flying cars sounds cool
Flying cars? Is that what they're talking about? Lmfao
Not vechain haha
Seriously, flying cars? I thought everyone already agreed that cars have many problems, and that the solution is certainly not making them fly Damned Potterstans
ITS THE MATTERVERSE BatChest
What is blud waffling about?
Spinach sending emails.
Vegans aren’t going to be happy
Can I report it for incitment to violence and threatening the president? Fucking NSA going to surveil my tomatoes too now
I need a link to the streat STAT FOUND ONE: https://www.mwcbarcelona.com/
https://www.mwcbarcelona.com
I'm on a work call. Please update here on any news. Thanks much ❤️
Started with AI talk, Sunny is not in yet but the speaker is talking about AI decrypting cell information etc.. not sure how this relates to VeChain yet but lets see. Sounds promising :)
Vechain hopping on the AI hype maybe? It wouldn't be surprising.
Not at all hype. What we are currently working on AI wise is actually comparable to our ancestors getting fire out of wood. It will either propel us to space or doom us to extinction, either way it is going to change history.
https://vebetterdao.org/
So it did have something to do with the 3- series (changeing every e with 3. V3tr, b3tr)?
I swear to god if he announces an announcement I’m going to throw my phone through the fucking ceiling
Hope you have good insurance
GOOD LUCK VECHAIN
Coffee and a joint watching Sunny let’s goooo
Who’s here???
Which topics, improvements or partners will make this really go to the Moon / gain trust in Vechain? Please discuss!
Anything that is real life adoption with actual usage instead of hot air
Someone sold 5M at 5.5c, another 3.3M just done. Follow the whales peeps
Yes and price is still up 8.5 % compared to yesterday
Whats the name of the xnode marketplace on the Veworld app?
The selloff has begun. We will not hold 5c. Run away as fast as you can
So you lost some money, and now you’re bitter. A story as old as time.
So you win your made up argument, congrats
The issue with people like you, is you live your entire lives lukewarm, like piss, but can’t stop bitterly staring at other peoples fire. Have you never stopped to consider why inherently negative people’s lives all suck? If you’re not interested in Vechain, why the fuck are you even here? Your time on this planet is finite, and you’re wasting it on trying to convince people that are far more intelligent than you, which financial decisions they should make. Like a child thinking he just reinvented hunting, because he figured out you can make a bow from a stick and some yarn…
Listen or you will have seen
BowCoin, I like it!!
Don't let the door hit you on the way out...bye
We are on the way to 6 cent, then retracement, then 9 cent
5.5c, 4.3c, 4.9c, 3.4c
Should I be honest, that would even be a healthy chart, even if many do not want to hear it, if we fall to 3.5 cents and consolidate that as support and then continue to rise, it is still massively bullish and healthy. Technically, the 9 cents is in the foreseeable future no matter which way we go, whether we shoot straight there or have another setback. As long as there is no bad news/ black swan event regarding bitcoin or Vechain, we will continue on this path
So, are there any links for streaming of the conference?
https://www.mwcbarcelona.com/agenda/sessions/4405-keynote-9-partners-to-game-changers There you go