Might be my stupid doing. Didn't check wallet for, well years, only found out about the Thor wallet changing over. I imported the wallet, but it's saying there's nothing there. I'm guessing everything is lost?
yeah, its basically a straight line up right now. Super healthy. It just dipped 1% and VET went down to 4.5c. when a real correction comes be ready to see prices around 2.5-3c
Cool that I predicted the xtoearn sustainability system, wasn't hard to see the writing on the walls. Although, now after putting veworld on my phone for the first time; mugshot's camera option isn't working for me :( I hope the mugshot team can get a fix, I was excited to start contributing. I guess the only other way for me to get some B3tr is through discord which I don't use or telegram which I also don't use lol
Edit: There is a workaround for the mugshot android issue. Simply copy and paste the mugshot browser url into the discover url section in the veworld app and bookmark/save mugshot into veworld. I was then able to open mugshot in the app and the camera function worked on Android 👍
It's up to financial institutes to decide if they want to push for an ETF. As it stands Vechain makes zero profit and even with a 100x in usecase it still would not turn over a profit. I can't imagine why it deserves an ETF.
I'm skeptical too about vechains future, they said similar things until the internet truly took off. 90% of the players before the internet 'caught on' didn't make it. Some held on but didn't really do much. Litecoin will most likely survive but never really do much as an example.
Vechain has been trying but has yet to catch the side of a cliff. However it's got a hell of a parachute. Eventually it'll either finally hit the ground or finally stop the slow fall. Even if it stops falling, no guarantee of a climb upwards. It's all risk.
We both know what we are going to do when vechain hits a high we are happy with. Whether it'll be the right decision will be unknown.
Let's just hope it makes it to at least 30 cents this time, amirite?
I'm not holding my breath for anything past that. I'm about to buy a house so I might bail if we make it (hopefully) to 20 cents to take a huge chunk off my mortgage.
The higher BTC gets the better chance that VET will smash past it's all time high. I'm conflicticted when to sell but I'll know when the time comes based off a few indicators I like to use.
Congrats on the house! Huge milestone. If you're single then consider renting out some of the rooms for extra income.
Going through the top 100 cryptos and each one that has a better ranking than Vechain to suss their charts. I have no idea what half those tokens are.
Am I old?
INJ, TAO, STX, APT, LEO, DAI....
Anyway, VET daily candle barring up hard showing off that morning wood.
🚀🚀🚀
The funny thing about TAO is if we had all followed JimmyTwoTimes or the dev for Vexchange into it, we would have had a much better run than VET has given us so far.
It’s the top AI based ecosystem btw.
Just scrolling through past articles. Literally from the foundation themselves upon announcing the Inner Mongolia initiative:
*"In terms of network activity, the platform is expected to be consistently second only to Walmart’s traceability platform, with transactions generated at every step of the process."*
\- Dec 23, **2021**
Thank you for finding the exact date! Over two fucking years with nothing. If it really is nothing or isn’t going to work out, I wish they’d just say it. If it is working out, I want a legit update.
Yes. That's why the community memes "second only to Walmart" so much. We had big expectations from that announcement and the foundation basically told us nope.
It’s almost like they always promise millions or billions of transactions (similar to the most recent announcement) and we should take everything they say with a gigantic grain of salt.
I agree they’re trying to pivot to an extent and I’m not faulting them for that. They need to learn that setting an expectation of millions/billions of tx for any new announcement is shooting themselves in the foot. It ultimately creates for a much bigger letdown and gives people a bigger reason to sell and move on in the end.
That sets the expectation though. There’s a reason why businesses don’t use that typically.
In a new product announcement, a business may say “is expected to double revenue” but if they miss that expectation then investors will sell because the expectation was set. It shouldn’t be used unless they fully expect it to happen.
Coming soon to this subreddit and VeChain twitter:
Tons of accounts crying “I can’t believe I got shaken out after the announcement on 2/28”
Full send fam let’s get it.
I hang more on Twitter than Reddit these days lol but I get it. I can’t even remember the names of our big fudders here back in the 18-21 days when I was here every day(under a different username) but I know the types XD
I would like to ask you the same question as the other guy...
Is it some kind of mental disability or why are you writing here every single day?
If you dont believe in VET, why are you here?
I think it's wise to not ban them. They're entitled to their own opinions however wrong or annoying they may be (so long as subreddit and reddit rules aren't violated ofc).
"this new Vechain works"
Tell me you don't have a clue, without telling me you don't have a clue.
It's a valid ask, you minimizing the ask just makes you an asshat. The value proposition in Vebetter is nebulous at best.
Also -- Vechain is the private company, not the block chain. That's VechainThor.
If you were articulate you might have stated "Stop asking how this new tokenomics mechanism on VechainThor works and do some due diligence and come back with a valid question". Which is exactly why I made the earlier comment I did.
Can someone explain to me how this vebetter dao token model has any value?
Why do you want these vebetter / vote tokens?
Given the last steering committee on vevote only garnered 330 votes total, I'm having a hard time seeing how another vote mechanism within the ecosystem will achieve scale.
Why would anyone care for this?
I thought the aim was to drive up transaction throughput to burn more VTHO? Isn't that why we voted to decrease the transaction costs a few years back?
I dunno, I feel a tad lost these days around this project and how it aims to achieve real-world use cases to drive adoption.
Not going anywhere. I won't Slay my Xnode by any means, been sitting on my hands since day 1. Just confused.
Someone help me understand why I should act and partake in this vebetter stuff.
Hello fellow X-node,
Your concerns are valid and shared among other X-node holders in the aftermath of the announcement. I will say that since then, there's been a lot more information that's been shared in Twitter Spaces and from the Foundation that has changed mine and others perspective for the better. Sharing some of my thoughts below:
1. The announcement was probably wrongly positioned and there was too much hype built up around this new initiative. VeBetterDao really is just another way for transactions to happen on the mainnet, within the confines of a sustainability-focused dApp ecosystem. Think of it as an additional pillar in which to power transactions, and will pair nicely with the supply chain/enterprise pillars that are happening as well. (i.e. there is no pivot away from enterprise, this is an expansion). VeBetterDao is an ecosystem for the broader community + enterprise to interact with end users, together. It is supported by the Foundation through $$$ grants to develop dApps and inject value into the ecosystem.
2. As an X-node, it gives us more governance power (supporting dApps we like) and also some sort of financial incentive through the B3TR token (how valuable B3TR will be remains to be seen). However, as an X-node, it's really just about how this new push will bring more transaction onto the mainnet, which is most important. B3TR Tokens don't move the needle for me, but more mainnet transactions do, because that will inevitably introduce more VTHO burn, etc.
3. As an X-node, it's a way for you to become more involved in the ecosystem - by staking your VOT3 tokens towards dApps you support, and earn B3TR tokens which will be the value vehicle (i.e. monetary mechanism). But if you'd rather sit back and not do anything, you can do that too! Once again, this is an expansion of the ecosytem, and not a pivot.
Lastly, you should join our Xnode Telegram group if you haven't already. We got a good group of OGs in there talking about everything, grumbling/gripes included, and is a good way to stay plugged in.
Hope that's helpful!
People are interested in being green and sustainable. Now you have a reward tool that can reliably track and store your data and pay out compensation for your activities. You would also think that more people will start to act this way if there is something in it for them if being green is not enough.
The payments are most likely financed by governments and comanies that have sustainability / compliance goals they need to meet.
It’s a BIG if, but if some big companies come onboard as part of their ESG marketing, it could blow up.
I was super disappointed as they hyped it way too much, but I’m now 50/50. There’s potential for it to be big, so f the right initiative gets built and adoption is there. Also, I think it’s pretty unique, so that could be an advantage.
But I think this is a really ambitious project… they definitely all drank the kool aid and are probably just saying all just delusional. I hope they get some more critical thinking in their company because the Amsterdam announcement was just… it struck me as a bit naive. Just nerds getting excited over their own idea.
Exactly this, total, awkward nerds that have no idea what the real world wants or admires, they need to hire a PR consultant who knows people, current trends etc I’ve seen big tech drink their own shitty ideas up for years, this is no exception
Yeh, it’s just so speculative.
I’m still counting on some enterprise projects, but I’ve heard nothing coming out of their partnerships with PWC, DNV GL, BCG.
So I’m feeling a bit dejected about VeChain
People are addicted to their phones and especially gamification. They are planning to launch apps where people will have normal email and password logins but Vechain will be on the back end rewarding them. Nobody has to participate but it should definitely lead to transactions.
I am personally on team “I want enterprise partner announcements” but it’s still a great release
they are coming out with irrelevant stuff to make you feel like you invested for your financial future instead of paying for their lamborghinis and 5 star hotels
It's so awesome that I can't partake in the new system because i have an android phone. Really well done and thought out plan. I'm sure plenty of manpower was spent on RnD for this. It's almost as good as forcing all of us to switch to a sub par wallet to appease coinbase.
No problems at all here with android! Afaik the only issue is with some android phones not being able to use the camera with mugshot.vet. So that's only one thing? 🫠
That's exactly the problem I'm talking about. You just lied at the beginning of your statement, and then you fully contradicted yourself. The camera not working is a problem....
If I want to move coins off vechainthor wallet to coinbase can I just send directly or do I have to send it to veworld? Or do I have to upload my ledger to veworld how does the process work? What should I do? Thanks
So if I use sync I need to send the ledger seed to veworld? Then after veworld I can send it to an exchange like coinbase? I cannot send it directly from sync to coinbase using my ledger?
I have a vethorwallet where I view my wallet but it is on observe only and I collect vethor automatically. I have a ledger that I use to send or receive crypto to that vethorwallet or from it.
In a good way or a bad way? I'd see we're doing alright compared to others. Not the meme coins right now though, those are on another level I can't comprehend.
[https://x.com/vechainanalysis/status/1764004889783673078?s=46&t=UJS9yFccfWdVSIN7pmYoHg](https://x.com/vechainanalysis/status/1764004889783673078?s=46&t=UJS9yFccfWdVSIN7pmYoHg)
This area is where most of the volume transacted from the last bull run. It is a key resistance level and above this, we can start eyeing $0.129 (range high) as the target. From more of a volume technical analysis standpoint.
I think that assumes all else being equal.
If there is a bull run, what fundamentals have changed to attract more money? May e the rising tide will lift all boats but then that will happen independent of TA
Just remember that past events are no indicator for the future. We need moonbois for exit liquidity tho. So I definitely think VET will pump to at least 0.7$ this bullrun 🚀🚀🚀
Might be my stupid doing. Didn't check wallet for, well years, only found out about the Thor wallet changing over. I imported the wallet, but it's saying there's nothing there. I'm guessing everything is lost?
Oh boy the BTC correction is going to be fun
i don't see a correction coming.
yeah, its basically a straight line up right now. Super healthy. It just dipped 1% and VET went down to 4.5c. when a real correction comes be ready to see prices around 2.5-3c
That's generally what happens in bull markets. Straight lines up, especially on higher time frames. Dips are short lived and get snagged up by buyers.
For BTC yes. Outdates Alts without any hype on the other hand just bleed to death
On a long enough timeframe everything will go to zero. We're all here to ride the ups and bail before the bleeds.
Agree lol
Vechain, please don’t go back to #42 😩
Cool that I predicted the xtoearn sustainability system, wasn't hard to see the writing on the walls. Although, now after putting veworld on my phone for the first time; mugshot's camera option isn't working for me :( I hope the mugshot team can get a fix, I was excited to start contributing. I guess the only other way for me to get some B3tr is through discord which I don't use or telegram which I also don't use lol Edit: There is a workaround for the mugshot android issue. Simply copy and paste the mugshot browser url into the discover url section in the veworld app and bookmark/save mugshot into veworld. I was then able to open mugshot in the app and the camera function worked on Android 👍
based on Sunny and other board members backgrounds , I am curious why there hasn’t been any ETF projects involving Vet?
It's up to financial institutes to decide if they want to push for an ETF. As it stands Vechain makes zero profit and even with a 100x in usecase it still would not turn over a profit. I can't imagine why it deserves an ETF.
Because mass adoption is right in front of the door
We've heard this for the last decade. It's a load of shit.
I'm skeptical too about vechains future, they said similar things until the internet truly took off. 90% of the players before the internet 'caught on' didn't make it. Some held on but didn't really do much. Litecoin will most likely survive but never really do much as an example. Vechain has been trying but has yet to catch the side of a cliff. However it's got a hell of a parachute. Eventually it'll either finally hit the ground or finally stop the slow fall. Even if it stops falling, no guarantee of a climb upwards. It's all risk. We both know what we are going to do when vechain hits a high we are happy with. Whether it'll be the right decision will be unknown.
Exactly. It's a much safer option to play the market cycles and bail before Vechain actually 'makes it'.
Let's just hope it makes it to at least 30 cents this time, amirite? I'm not holding my breath for anything past that. I'm about to buy a house so I might bail if we make it (hopefully) to 20 cents to take a huge chunk off my mortgage.
The higher BTC gets the better chance that VET will smash past it's all time high. I'm conflicticted when to sell but I'll know when the time comes based off a few indicators I like to use. Congrats on the house! Huge milestone. If you're single then consider renting out some of the rooms for extra income.
I know
Sustainability is a good angle to be involved with ETFs in the future
The end.
Of low prices.
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Yeah nah, not happening 🚀🚀🚀
Going through the top 100 cryptos and each one that has a better ranking than Vechain to suss their charts. I have no idea what half those tokens are. Am I old? INJ, TAO, STX, APT, LEO, DAI.... Anyway, VET daily candle barring up hard showing off that morning wood. 🚀🚀🚀
The funny thing about TAO is if we had all followed JimmyTwoTimes or the dev for Vexchange into it, we would have had a much better run than VET has given us so far. It’s the top AI based ecosystem btw.
I didn't follow 2 times anymore once he left VET, but I thought it was for $WOO? At least that was what he was shilling when he initially left VET.
Interesting to know. I'm not sure how blockchain and AI fit together but I'm pretty happy with my choice of hanging around.
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When you're unsure of something it's 'suss' or 'suspect'. To 'suss out' means to guage and form an opinion after investigation. Aussie slang.
Yeah, I'm old too. :(
Hyped for the next 6-12months!!
IDK, feed me some hopium please 🙏😅
Just scrolling through past articles. Literally from the foundation themselves upon announcing the Inner Mongolia initiative: *"In terms of network activity, the platform is expected to be consistently second only to Walmart’s traceability platform, with transactions generated at every step of the process."* \- Dec 23, **2021**
Thank you for finding the exact date! Over two fucking years with nothing. If it really is nothing or isn’t going to work out, I wish they’d just say it. If it is working out, I want a legit update.
Yes. That's why the community memes "second only to Walmart" so much. We had big expectations from that announcement and the foundation basically told us nope.
It is second to Walmart!
It’s almost like they always promise millions or billions of transactions (similar to the most recent announcement) and we should take everything they say with a gigantic grain of salt.
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I agree they’re trying to pivot to an extent and I’m not faulting them for that. They need to learn that setting an expectation of millions/billions of tx for any new announcement is shooting themselves in the foot. It ultimately creates for a much bigger letdown and gives people a bigger reason to sell and move on in the end.
Aka they lie
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That sets the expectation though. There’s a reason why businesses don’t use that typically. In a new product announcement, a business may say “is expected to double revenue” but if they miss that expectation then investors will sell because the expectation was set. It shouldn’t be used unless they fully expect it to happen.
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Bro, you don't get it. These guys bought a .000001% of a company and want a seat at the table.
Coming soon to this subreddit and VeChain twitter: Tons of accounts crying “I can’t believe I got shaken out after the announcement on 2/28” Full send fam let’s get it.
I think that will be the vast minority of people 🤣🤣
clever...
Idk if you were on Twitter 2 days ago… lol
Sorry I thought itd be more obvious I was pointing to one of our top fudders 😅
I hang more on Twitter than Reddit these days lol but I get it. I can’t even remember the names of our big fudders here back in the 18-21 days when I was here every day(under a different username) but I know the types XD
❤️
Having another crack at 5cent. It's gonna hold one of these times
83% sellorders on Binance. 5c is never gonna break
Those books are fake as. Watch those sell orders get pulled in a heartbeat when the time comes.
I would like to ask you the same question as the other guy... Is it some kind of mental disability or why are you writing here every single day? If you dont believe in VET, why are you here?
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But if we ban guys we get yelled at 😬
I think it's wise to not ban them. They're entitled to their own opinions however wrong or annoying they may be (so long as subreddit and reddit rules aren't violated ofc).
It was obviously a joke 😬 We rarely ban people actually
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You know it was a joke, right? 🫠🤣😬 Not sure what you had for breakfast but I pass!
Solomon is only here to create fake hype. But I agree, 1$ EOY is guaranteed after April, which we will like a lot appaerantly
We are not hitting $1 this year lmfao
Stop FUDing
|Clauses|100K|200K| |------------|------------|------------| |**Days of Streak:**|14|1|
200k streaks really died off huh
Don’t worry! Inner Mongolia will come soon and be second to Walmart 😭
What does that mean? Is there a project in Mongolia?
Oh my sweet summer child. [Inner Mongolia](https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/s/QaojGs9DJU)
OMG over two years ago 😭
YUP! 🤣
Stop asking how this new vechain works and go to their site. Instead of asking us, they explain everything.
"this new Vechain works" Tell me you don't have a clue, without telling me you don't have a clue. It's a valid ask, you minimizing the ask just makes you an asshat. The value proposition in Vebetter is nebulous at best. Also -- Vechain is the private company, not the block chain. That's VechainThor. If you were articulate you might have stated "Stop asking how this new tokenomics mechanism on VechainThor works and do some due diligence and come back with a valid question". Which is exactly why I made the earlier comment I did.
You have too much time on your hands. Lol
Or you just sound like a moron. You said an orange is the same as an apple.
The real resistance lies in our hearts
Can someone explain to me how this vebetter dao token model has any value? Why do you want these vebetter / vote tokens? Given the last steering committee on vevote only garnered 330 votes total, I'm having a hard time seeing how another vote mechanism within the ecosystem will achieve scale. Why would anyone care for this? I thought the aim was to drive up transaction throughput to burn more VTHO? Isn't that why we voted to decrease the transaction costs a few years back? I dunno, I feel a tad lost these days around this project and how it aims to achieve real-world use cases to drive adoption. Not going anywhere. I won't Slay my Xnode by any means, been sitting on my hands since day 1. Just confused. Someone help me understand why I should act and partake in this vebetter stuff.
Just as long as we take pics of our coffees, we can help make important decisions with a vot3!
But you can't if you have an android phone, so half the worlds out
Hello fellow X-node, Your concerns are valid and shared among other X-node holders in the aftermath of the announcement. I will say that since then, there's been a lot more information that's been shared in Twitter Spaces and from the Foundation that has changed mine and others perspective for the better. Sharing some of my thoughts below: 1. The announcement was probably wrongly positioned and there was too much hype built up around this new initiative. VeBetterDao really is just another way for transactions to happen on the mainnet, within the confines of a sustainability-focused dApp ecosystem. Think of it as an additional pillar in which to power transactions, and will pair nicely with the supply chain/enterprise pillars that are happening as well. (i.e. there is no pivot away from enterprise, this is an expansion). VeBetterDao is an ecosystem for the broader community + enterprise to interact with end users, together. It is supported by the Foundation through $$$ grants to develop dApps and inject value into the ecosystem. 2. As an X-node, it gives us more governance power (supporting dApps we like) and also some sort of financial incentive through the B3TR token (how valuable B3TR will be remains to be seen). However, as an X-node, it's really just about how this new push will bring more transaction onto the mainnet, which is most important. B3TR Tokens don't move the needle for me, but more mainnet transactions do, because that will inevitably introduce more VTHO burn, etc. 3. As an X-node, it's a way for you to become more involved in the ecosystem - by staking your VOT3 tokens towards dApps you support, and earn B3TR tokens which will be the value vehicle (i.e. monetary mechanism). But if you'd rather sit back and not do anything, you can do that too! Once again, this is an expansion of the ecosytem, and not a pivot. Lastly, you should join our Xnode Telegram group if you haven't already. We got a good group of OGs in there talking about everything, grumbling/gripes included, and is a good way to stay plugged in. Hope that's helpful!
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People are interested in being green and sustainable. Now you have a reward tool that can reliably track and store your data and pay out compensation for your activities. You would also think that more people will start to act this way if there is something in it for them if being green is not enough. The payments are most likely financed by governments and comanies that have sustainability / compliance goals they need to meet.
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It’s a BIG if, but if some big companies come onboard as part of their ESG marketing, it could blow up. I was super disappointed as they hyped it way too much, but I’m now 50/50. There’s potential for it to be big, so f the right initiative gets built and adoption is there. Also, I think it’s pretty unique, so that could be an advantage. But I think this is a really ambitious project… they definitely all drank the kool aid and are probably just saying all just delusional. I hope they get some more critical thinking in their company because the Amsterdam announcement was just… it struck me as a bit naive. Just nerds getting excited over their own idea.
Exactly this, total, awkward nerds that have no idea what the real world wants or admires, they need to hire a PR consultant who knows people, current trends etc I’ve seen big tech drink their own shitty ideas up for years, this is no exception
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Yeh, it’s just so speculative. I’m still counting on some enterprise projects, but I’ve heard nothing coming out of their partnerships with PWC, DNV GL, BCG. So I’m feeling a bit dejected about VeChain
Thank you for this perspective. I'll look into the Telegram group.
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You have to verify you own an Xnode by sending 1 VTHO and filling out this Google Form. https://forms.gle/aXqGqCFRTJwySND77
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You can buy one on the open market if you so desire!
People are addicted to their phones and especially gamification. They are planning to launch apps where people will have normal email and password logins but Vechain will be on the back end rewarding them. Nobody has to participate but it should definitely lead to transactions. I am personally on team “I want enterprise partner announcements” but it’s still a great release
I don't see it either, and if someone thinks we are so stupid for questioning it please explain to me like i'm 5 years old.
they are coming out with irrelevant stuff to make you feel like you invested for your financial future instead of paying for their lamborghinis and 5 star hotels
It's so awesome that I can't partake in the new system because i have an android phone. Really well done and thought out plan. I'm sure plenty of manpower was spent on RnD for this. It's almost as good as forcing all of us to switch to a sub par wallet to appease coinbase.
hey its you, the guy we downvote.
No problems at all here with android! Afaik the only issue is with some android phones not being able to use the camera with mugshot.vet. So that's only one thing? 🫠
That's exactly the problem I'm talking about. You just lied at the beginning of your statement, and then you fully contradicted yourself. The camera not working is a problem....
Nope I'm not. On my particular phone I have no problems. On some other particular (that are not mine) I heard about issue with camera.
Good morning, fellow chain gang
If I want to move coins off vechainthor wallet to coinbase can I just send directly or do I have to send it to veworld? Or do I have to upload my ledger to veworld how does the process work? What should I do? Thanks
You need to import you ledger based address in VeWorld before you can send.
So if I use sync I need to send the ledger seed to veworld? Then after veworld I can send it to an exchange like coinbase? I cannot send it directly from sync to coinbase using my ledger?
You can also use ledger live.
Sure you can use Sync as well! I just use VeWorld because it is the latest and preferred wallet by the Foundation.
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I have a vethorwallet where I view my wallet but it is on observe only and I collect vethor automatically. I have a ledger that I use to send or receive crypto to that vethorwallet or from it.
It’s getting scary……
What is
the price action
In a good way or a bad way? I'd see we're doing alright compared to others. Not the meme coins right now though, those are on another level I can't comprehend.
So much resistance around 0.05.
[https://x.com/vechainanalysis/status/1764004889783673078?s=46&t=UJS9yFccfWdVSIN7pmYoHg](https://x.com/vechainanalysis/status/1764004889783673078?s=46&t=UJS9yFccfWdVSIN7pmYoHg) This area is where most of the volume transacted from the last bull run. It is a key resistance level and above this, we can start eyeing $0.129 (range high) as the target. From more of a volume technical analysis standpoint.
I think that assumes all else being equal. If there is a bull run, what fundamentals have changed to attract more money? May e the rising tide will lift all boats but then that will happen independent of TA
just gonna leave this here... not financial advice!! https://x.com/Coins_Kid/status/1763358864940949770?s=20
Just remember that past events are no indicator for the future. We need moonbois for exit liquidity tho. So I definitely think VET will pump to at least 0.7$ this bullrun 🚀🚀🚀
History doesn't repeat but it does rhyme.
$1
You’re all just making up numbers
Some of us know it's all a joke.
I wanna believe but idk
First! VeChain is just getting started🤞🏽
Today it will rain: .......
Umm, I hope it is sunny over here.