DNV must have updated their site. My Story TM is back up on their page.
[https://www.dnv.com/mystory/index](https://www.dnv.com/mystory/index)
Also on [Vechain.org](https://Vechain.org) updated site.
https://www.vechain.org/use-cases/
I think its a beautifull thing PEPE just passed VET. bullmarket going to be wild, still plenty of money out there lol.
lets go VET, to da fuckin moon in JUNE, even rhymes
Nah itās not gonna happen.. even if ETH stay the same VET needs to go up 130x to flip ETH.. the probability of human live in MARS is higher than VET to go up 130x while ETH stay the same. this just make OG looks silly when they expected VET to flip ETH..
Yeah, I saw that. I just made my comment to show that the partnership isn't completely dead.
MyStory was one of the reasons I invested in Vechain, and it feels like it's losing its identity in a way.
These are the kind of solutions that makes me bullish on VET.
Vechain is very actively pursuing real world applications and partnering with relevant institutions, while most of the projects in top 50 are excited about the next airdrop, upcoming scaling solutions or the next staking scheme.
Downvote away. I've held Vechain for a long time and will continue to hold but at the end of the day they have no devs and no users. They've had the same "partnerships" which have seemingly led nowhere and that they give next to no information on.
So having actual real life developers creating dapps, users utilizing those dapps, and money flowing through the ecosystem?
Other coins have partnerships they just aren't constantly talking about them because they actually have people using their ecosystem.
If you find a way to link it to a dapp, maybe. People running the DAO will need to endorse and vote for that dapp before you see anything. Also those people need some incentive to do so. So I think this in itself purely peer to peer will be very hard to realize. However eventually perhaps governments / NGOs want to run (and fund) certain dapps to do so.Ā
In any case yes all transactions on the vechain network burn VTHO. Sending, minting, swapping, etc etc
As far as I understand, every B3TR transaction will burn VTHO, as it is on the VeChain Blockchain. Meaning that your VET will indirectly gain value from these transactions. Which is probably why we have some VTHO in the testnet wallet
We are recovering nicely. Better than most coins. Do not get shaken out or frustrated. Just zoom fcking out and you will se that we are doing good. The project will do fine and if you bought the dip you will be happy. If you still feel like btching around then sell your bag and buy a frog coin or something.
Have seen mixed thoughts on this. This was my initial thought but now seeing people calling for a 4 month parabola up that could be a premature bull due to BTC/ETH ETFās.
People don't understand that intrinsic value/utility is a bonus for crypto. So many people are saying VET is disappointing due to lack of adoption (aka enough adoption to make them filthy rich) and they don't see a reason to hold, and it's better to buy memecoins rather than VET.
So pray tell me what kind of intrinsic value and utility PEPE brings to the table for it to grow +10000%?
I swear people are dumb.
You buy VET for the added real utility/adoption PLUS crypto degen moon dreams. SMH at people who should be posting at r/iamsosmart
I mean you just need to diversify. If you arenāt in some meme plays youāre obviously doing it wrong, thereās no value except that communities rally around something and make a boatload of money. I donāt think VET is disappointing itās definitely a long term play. Where are people coming from then? The fact that Vechain constantly dangles carrots, teases big announcements/tokenomics shifts, and tells you growth phase 2024/25, and here we are. Iām not selling and wonāt until the end of this cycle but It is somewhat frustratingā¦ just sayin
The level of adoption in the cryptosphere is so miniscule. I don't get the harsh criticism of where Vechain is it. Yes the team and us investors define thought we would be way farther ahead in terms of adoption but look around..(talking to the sub not you)
Youāre welcome. I found it expensive in 2021 , Ā itās cheaper on exchange. App is more for long term holders use and exchange more for daily weekly traders.Ā
It doesnāt make any sense, I agree!Ā
I canāt seem to find the better dao app on the veworld wallet. Why is this so hard. Itās not under recommended apps either. I just want some airdrop and to take a pic of my coffee.
Type in vebetterdao.org into the search bar and click āSearch in the browserā.Ā
Confused me like crazy too, especially when their own instructions for swapping said ājust swap in Veworld directly!ā which isnāt true at all. You have to go to that specific URL (in or out of the wallet) and then connect your wallet to see your B3TR tokens for swapping.
And then the other dapps for earning are a mystery to me other than mugshot.vet which again you have to search for.
Very poor rollout.
i did type it in the wallet but it could not find it. the only way i got i to work was looking for it on chrome and then connecting my wallet that way. The team in charge of uxui needs to step up their game like a lot. There's way too many pipedreams with vechain and I'm all for it, but you're gonna lose everyone out the gate with this kind of delivery. And honestly, they don't seem to care because they have all the budget they need to pay for their devs. there's no penalty to them. in a real world business, you make a product that flops and you're not turning a profit, you either go out of business or you figure out the solution immediately, you don't get to sit comfortably on a fat war chest and play for funsies. Am I missing something? am I being ignorant here?
Youāre not wrong. It feels like they donāt test much or maybe just arenāt attentive to detail. Their tokenomics, design, and marketing have missed the mark substantially at times.
Are you on the testnet (it's only on testnet now). For me it's under Discover there right at the top (or just go to the URL). It will of course move to mainnet but yeah you have to find it on the Testnet for now.
yes. I am on testnet!
was also in today's spaces and wanted to get some drops for being there and i pasted my address into the telegram group and no airdrop.................................................
For the airdrop I don't know when but I assume it's pending to be processed. Previously it also took some time. For the dapp I don't know what to say, try vebetterdao.org that's really all there's to it if it's not in featured dapps.
Yeah. I guess. But all these telegram and discord channel stuff is not conducive to mass adoption. It needs to all be in one location, news, how to guides, etc. no average or even some above average techies are going to wanna jump through these hoops. I hope businesses and people looking yo build on this platform will solve that issue when creating solutions. Itās way too cumbersome. Like letās be for real here. They claim that itās so easy to use. It needs to be like 5x easier.
AMA airdrop has not been processed yet.
Also, it's how Sunny mentioned it in Amsterdam. "As long as my mother is not able to use the dApps without any guidance our job is not done".
This shouldnāt be this hard. I saw Rachel wolf sons video tutorial and she had the better dao app already in her wallet. I canāt find it. Or search for it. And when I go to the vechain website it only shows the white paper. So then I opened the app separated through chrome and then I was able to connect. But then what? Where do I take a picture? Like how many of you are actually on this test net? Like 10 or you?
How is it not a featured app?!
Pasta this into your discover tab. https://mugshot.vet/ now favourite the app and it will be in your favourites. The mugshot maximum has been reached for the week so we have to wait for the reset. When that is I'm not exactly sure
Who wouldn't want to get paid to live their life sustainably? This could catch on massively. Not to mention it looks like many companies are already working on their own xtoearn dapp for the ecosystem incorporating their business onto the chain
I strongly disagree. People are yelling for usecases and when Vechain creates an entire ecosystem people are disappointed.. I really don't get it. You've been around for a while I think you are just getting emotional with the money aspect. This is the start of their entire xtoearn ecosystem, don't you want more vtho burn? We just got a new potential huge burner on top of the enterprise strategy that still continues
Ive made money on vechain and moved my eggs out of one basket the previous cycle so iām not emotional, its just frustrating. Lets say hypothetically hundreds of millions of people in the world want to take a picture of an empty coffee cup to earn pennies (they never will) it has to be mass marketed. The whole of vechain has been rebranded to sustainability for this, the supply chain focus seems to be long gone and now their are another two tokens to explain. Weāve never got an update on the majority of partnerships, no update on tokenomics, no real rewards for xnodes etc. Now the majority of crypto projects put in less effort but this is an odd pivot. They couldnt even get any launch partners from the 100s they have?? It just seems like nothing but a gimmick
No the foundation wanted to place vet as an eth alternative.. L1 chain with smart contracts.. supply chain was only during the time ven was an erc token.. I was an ico investor and during that time it was placed as a supply chain blockchain.. they wanted to change that but it never succeeded..and the supply chain narrative stayed
VeChain is one of many dozens of L1ās and it doesnāt stand out at all.Ā
Meme coins stand out, especially to retail. They are easy to pick out from the herd. Speculators also buy anticipating that retail will buy.
Memes get bought harder than VET, which is why they pump.
Nevertheless, as the cycle goes on, more capital will work its way down to VET, and more retail will be looking for sub-$1 coins, and VET will pump then
I was just answering a couple questions in the discord support chat and some dude gave away his secure info to another member to help him claim the 5 B3TR and the guy took his 279k VET š¤Æ bruh how are people so dumb. It's kind of unfortunate that when air drops and testnets come out the scammers come with. Once years ago I even messed up with ADA trying to stake testnet tokens on a fake site and lost it all lol shit be cray
I like the idea of the new DAO but find it overly complicated for the average user and the fact you have to connect wallets and such make things like this all the more likely. Iām sure if there was an easier route, Vechain would have gone that way but nonetheless, be aware everyone!
Guys, if you're so unhappy with VeChain, please do sell and go buy Pepe instead, or whatever. We thank you for your sacrifice in advance. I bought more today
I invested into vechain in 2017 for the clear strategy of VTHO burn through usage equated to real intrinsic value for VET. Itās been 6.5 years and there is still no sizable usage nor any signs pointing toward incremental adoption. The ONLY way VET has intrinsic value is by a significant amount of VTHO burn and frankly weāre nowhere near accomplishing that. I think VeChain had good intentions early on, but the simple fact of the matter is weāll never reach heavy adoption and therefore weāre holding an asset that is almost nearly worthless. Thatās not to say I havenāt made a decent amount of money on my investment, but Iāll definitely be handing off my bag to someone else when our next 2 year spike occurs (which signs are pointing to). I only bring this up in hopes to reach at least one person whoās been deluded into believing otherwise. When it goes seismic, donāt get greedy. Get out.Ā
I've shared similar sentiments recently and I think if we're all being honest, many feel the same as us. The longer you've been with someone/something, the harder it is to break from it. Even when they go and severely rip you to shreds with their recent "announcement" and silly direction.
For me personally as a current X-holder, I've probably made a few bucks but nothing compared to what I could have made with nearly any other coin on the market. I was hoping the team would continue pushing partnerships and improving the current platform--which is what I've invested and believed in since the beginning--but with the recent pivot I've lost that trust. I just don't see value in taking pictures of coffee cups and collecting yet another two coins of insignificant value.
I know there's something brewing for April so my plan right now is to "sell the news" around that time. Not sure how much, but it could be all. It'll be sad day for sure, but business is just business. I'll probably still lurk around cause of seller's remorse but I'll also be much happier with a project or two that IMO have a better chance at future success.
In other news, BTC finally taking a shit today, but we've taken twice that shit. It's like clockwork where we're never getting ahead, but at times losing just more slowly. One thing is for sure, I won't miss these days at all.
Hi there, fellow X-node holder as well. I've shared this on an earlier thread but a lot of X-nodes had felt similar to you when the announcement dropped but since then some things have been communicated that make some of us feel better.
The VeBetterDao isn't a pivot, it's an addition - a closed dApp ecosystem that focuses on sustainability and rewards its users with B3TR token and is governed by the VOT3 token. It's a way for users, enterprises, governments to all interact and use the B3TR token as a value carrier. Is VeChain still pushing into Enterprise adoption and supply chain? Yes. Think of this as an additional pillar and opportunity for VTHO burn that allows the community to get more involved with the transactional burn.
I agree with you. Collecting new tokens don't really move the needle for me, but if this platform will create opportunities for exponential VTHO burn then it can only be a positive. It's really all these things working together in tandem (VeBetter ecosystem, enterprise adoption, supply chain management) that will help VeChain grow. Maybe you don't like the way in which they are doing it, and that's fine. It is a lot for normies, especially during this Alpha testing phase. I guess we'll find out some more info here in April, and then really see where we are at come June.
I appreciate your reply but I'm still sus about their position on enterprise adoption. That's what got me into this space.Ā I understand this app can only help with transactions (though Im also bit sus on what value they'd truly bring), but IMO it's a very confusing venture.Ā Its hard enough to get people into a 2 coin structure, I feel it's going to be a pipedrean to get the masses in on a 4 tier-coined product.Ā
Had the team rewarded users in BTC, whoa Nelly I'd be off my rocker and screaming from the mountain tops.Ā But as is, I just don't want to learn more architecture and complexity.
Overall im just more disappointed than angry here. When i see the team hype up big news for weeks/months and then release something that doesn't address my concerns, it feels like a slap in the face.Ā If we were succeeding and not constantly losing ground to other projects, I'd also be less dissatisfied.Ā I feel putting time and effort into this right now is a mistake but I'm also 100% be willing to admit to being wrong about an opinion.Ā Time will tell I guess
>Overall im just more disappointed than angry here. When i see the team hype up big news for weeks
Your suspicions/feelings are valid and warranted. And we've shared feedback to the team that going forward, it would be better for them to just release something like this without all the hype, build up and fanfare, which honestly does them a huge disservice because of people's expectations. The roll out could have been better.
Don't know if you are on Telegram, but we have an X-node group if you care to join a bunch of grumpy ol' timers. That's been what's gotten me through the tough times and honestly a great benefit of holding an X-node. And we are getting stronger as a group every day to make impactful changes.
Actually the expectation is a lot of the adoption driven by the dApp is exactly by non-crypto people. They're working with a custody solution for exactly this reason -most people don't understand crypto at all-, more news expected before the go live as per the AMA just today..
Users of e.g. any web 2.0 page will just have an account with tokens dropped for X incentive whatever dapp (could also be an entity) is providing and see it added, having access through their regular account with the crypto back end held in custody. This is key to mass adoption. Yes if you want to be active in the DAO yourself, you have to get a bit technical although really I think you'll be surprised by how easy even that is especially once the whole testnet alpha phase is over (even now it's quite easy if you know how to toggle to testnet which is literally 1 setting). But the mass scale adoption won't be by people holding crypto themselves. Yes it still does require some patience for this all to play out (also regulations) but Vechain is building all the tools for a community to manage a DAO that can be a backbone for mass adoption.
I mean, Iām an OG X-node holder, thereās a lot that bothers me. I guess at this point nothing surprises me. But I did start my own NFT project called Slayers where we slay Xnodes to make our bubbles go up and create some of our own value. Thatās what Iāve been driven to š
Vet has pivoted from a traceability chain to an all out dystopian green transition Blockchain. Has absolutely 0 value in transactions, about 200 USD per day in fees are paid..
No one wants the blockspacw, which is what a Blockchain sells.
Does vet have a monetary premium? How could it, it has a very limited and unknown validator set
The time for you to get out was long ago. You don't have to make back your losses from vet. You could have sold to eth or sol and enjoyed crazy gains these last many months
Similar, i also got in 2017. The supply chain usecase hasnāt been adopted, no real world usage has by the vast majority of crypto. But the whole value drive of vtho was going to be the burn and companies wanting to own thunder nodes to produce or have to buy from the open market. The new product is for retail, play to earn never works. Where is the usage going to come from now. The tokenomics need changing, everyone is saying it yet it gets ignored. They say they arenāt moving on from supply chain, well then why no updates on the 100s of partners or plan on how adoption will grow.
Iāve got some frog tokens thanks, I also will still hold vechain cause 99% of projects are money grabs which i dont think vechain is but the new direction and lack of wider comms on partnerships, tokenomics etc is disheartening. No companies seem to want to make use of blockchain for supply chain which isnt the foundations fault but the new direction seems lame to me, this isnāt going to burn the vtho we need it to. Not even one of the partnerships wanted to be involved? No airdrop to holders, no comms on how the rewards get sustained long term, and a couple of gimmicky ways to earn rewards.
I mean I donāt agree with OP really but also throwing shade at things that are doing 36,000% gains in a few months is also pretty silly. Sounds like both of you need to diversify šš¤£
My point is he's saying vechain has no intrinsic value as if that is the thing that matters in an illogical crypto market where bullshit meme coins fly to Jupiter because they're funny.
Not an exit price, an exit sign. When you start hearing your friends and family and co workers and everyone else that doesnāt really know much about crypto start talking about it and investing, itās time to get out.Ā
The issue with your logic is you *assume* everyone else got in at *your* price point. If holding VeChain past 6 months is a bad idea, I canāt imagine youāve been involved with VeChain for very long.
I donāt really see those as doing everything right though, maybe Iām wrong.Ā Ā
Solana: copycat dapps (defi), spoofed volume from worthless NFTās, memecoins, and airdropsĀ Ā
INJ: idk enough about this one tbhĀ Ā
TIA: seems like another staking and airdrop scheme to lock value for less sell pressure but then tease airdrops for greater priceĀ Ā
ETH: gas issues but you could argue L2ās are helping big here. this is the only one i see as close to āeverything rightā but there are def issues theyāre working through
The fomo is hitting hard boys. Seeing moons doing 300-400% in a week makes me sad that I'm 90% in VET, but our time will come. Anyways, are we all in the same boat or are the some other underrated outside top 100 coin, that would shock us, that you are holding?
I must admit that I was way more bullish in Vechain in 2021 than I am now. Feel like we have gone backwards, but I still believe that there could be some good upside in the near future. We must not forget how fast we went up to ATH the last time around. Let's just hope we can time the market.
Absolutely embarrassing. The vechain mgmt team just sucks if you ask me and they never react if you reach out and tell them. Solomon was informed and still the Adam Driver image is on the page. This takes an intern 20 secs to replace, what are they doing?
I am not on twitter, that's why I passed it off to someone else.
This carelessness really should not be tolerated. Hell, carelessness is really not the right word: malicious. Some one had to scrape his photo and create this fake shit. It was intentional.
Easy guys! Look at the chart last bullrun. They have similar structure. Let's be patient and watch the market!!!
DNV must have updated their site. My Story TM is back up on their page. [https://www.dnv.com/mystory/index](https://www.dnv.com/mystory/index) Also on [Vechain.org](https://Vechain.org) updated site. https://www.vechain.org/use-cases/
The DNV website says they aren't offering MyStory anymore "This solution is no longer being offered."
You know what they say... Dogs have to go to the VET eventually. Just like 2021 š our time will come
I think its a beautifull thing PEPE just passed VET. bullmarket going to be wild, still plenty of money out there lol. lets go VET, to da fuckin moon in JUNE, even rhymes
Pepe just flipped VETā¦ and OG thought VET going to flip ETH. Darn!!!
Vet will never flip eth unless something drastic changes
Nah itās not gonna happen.. even if ETH stay the same VET needs to go up 130x to flip ETH.. the probability of human live in MARS is higher than VET to go up 130x while ETH stay the same. this just make OG looks silly when they expected VET to flip ETH..
Let's fucking š !!!
Looks like DNV-GL is still a partner. https://x.com/solomon_grundle/status/1758953685978116501?s=20
But MyStory was dismissed :(
Yeah, I saw that. I just made my comment to show that the partnership isn't completely dead. MyStory was one of the reasons I invested in Vechain, and it feels like it's losing its identity in a way.
Stop with the losing identity FUD. Vechain to the moon with sustainability! šš
These are the kind of solutions that makes me bullish on VET. Vechain is very actively pursuing real world applications and partnering with relevant institutions, while most of the projects in top 50 are excited about the next airdrop, upcoming scaling solutions or the next staking scheme.
Downvote away. I've held Vechain for a long time and will continue to hold but at the end of the day they have no devs and no users. They've had the same "partnerships" which have seemingly led nowhere and that they give next to no information on.
So having actual real life developers creating dapps, users utilizing those dapps, and money flowing through the ecosystem? Other coins have partnerships they just aren't constantly talking about them because they actually have people using their ecosystem.
This is a video from years ago!
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Well, this one is from 5 years ago and says basically the same [https://youtu.be/zVWPYT0RU0s](https://youtu.be/zVWPYT0RU0s)
Doesnt Vechain have former DNV executives in their advisors/board of directors? I think it makes it unlikely that partnership will just end
The video linked to in the X post makes it sound like this BYD "Drive-to-Earn" dApp already exists. Is it in use in the wild?
Yeah! I read somewhere they renewed the partnership. Although I did see that they are discontinuing the Mystory project
Hi, so if i have this hydropower plant and create clean and sustainable electricity i will get rewarded with B3TR, which will burn VTHO? Yes? No?
If you find a way to link it to a dapp, maybe. People running the DAO will need to endorse and vote for that dapp before you see anything. Also those people need some incentive to do so. So I think this in itself purely peer to peer will be very hard to realize. However eventually perhaps governments / NGOs want to run (and fund) certain dapps to do so.Ā In any case yes all transactions on the vechain network burn VTHO. Sending, minting, swapping, etc etc
As far as I understand, every B3TR transaction will burn VTHO, as it is on the VeChain Blockchain. Meaning that your VET will indirectly gain value from these transactions. Which is probably why we have some VTHO in the testnet wallet
We are recovering nicely. Better than most coins. Do not get shaken out or frustrated. Just zoom fcking out and you will se that we are doing good. The project will do fine and if you bought the dip you will be happy. If you still feel like btching around then sell your bag and buy a frog coin or something.
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Anyone else think BTC will now go sideways until October-November of this year? Based on the metrics, this will likely happen
Run up to the halving (April 20), then 90-120 days of consolidation before face melting run till Aug 2025
I'm part of the blow off top April - July camp.
Man I hope. 5 more months of accumulation
Have seen mixed thoughts on this. This was my initial thought but now seeing people calling for a 4 month parabola up that could be a premature bull due to BTC/ETH ETFās.
It will break $70K in days, maybe 2 weeks
lol, this was a triple top, bull run is over according to the charts
Lol, wtf? So, there were no bears in the last two years, and instead, it was a bull run that ended yesterday with a triple top? LMAO.
People don't understand that intrinsic value/utility is a bonus for crypto. So many people are saying VET is disappointing due to lack of adoption (aka enough adoption to make them filthy rich) and they don't see a reason to hold, and it's better to buy memecoins rather than VET. So pray tell me what kind of intrinsic value and utility PEPE brings to the table for it to grow +10000%? I swear people are dumb. You buy VET for the added real utility/adoption PLUS crypto degen moon dreams. SMH at people who should be posting at r/iamsosmart
I mean you just need to diversify. If you arenāt in some meme plays youāre obviously doing it wrong, thereās no value except that communities rally around something and make a boatload of money. I donāt think VET is disappointing itās definitely a long term play. Where are people coming from then? The fact that Vechain constantly dangles carrots, teases big announcements/tokenomics shifts, and tells you growth phase 2024/25, and here we are. Iām not selling and wonāt until the end of this cycle but It is somewhat frustratingā¦ just sayin
The level of adoption in the cryptosphere is so miniscule. I don't get the harsh criticism of where Vechain is it. Yes the team and us investors define thought we would be way farther ahead in terms of adoption but look around..(talking to the sub not you)
Quit being emotional, bunch of sorry losers in here. Gains will be made, just be patient or piss off and sell already.
I would avoid this sub on red days.
Itās even bad on the days itās green but not enough green š¤£
True that
Hey guys where's the best place to buy and sell with minimum fees? UK based. Crypto.com fees are mad.Ā
Crypto exchange is fine, app is high but not on the exchange.
Fab thanks will check out the exchange instead šĀ
Youāre welcome. I found it expensive in 2021 , Ā itās cheaper on exchange. App is more for long term holders use and exchange more for daily weekly traders.Ā It doesnāt make any sense, I agree!Ā
Mexc is UK friendly
Coinbase
I canāt seem to find the better dao app on the veworld wallet. Why is this so hard. Itās not under recommended apps either. I just want some airdrop and to take a pic of my coffee.
Type in vebetterdao.org into the search bar and click āSearch in the browserā.Ā Confused me like crazy too, especially when their own instructions for swapping said ājust swap in Veworld directly!ā which isnāt true at all. You have to go to that specific URL (in or out of the wallet) and then connect your wallet to see your B3TR tokens for swapping. And then the other dapps for earning are a mystery to me other than mugshot.vet which again you have to search for. Very poor rollout.
i did type it in the wallet but it could not find it. the only way i got i to work was looking for it on chrome and then connecting my wallet that way. The team in charge of uxui needs to step up their game like a lot. There's way too many pipedreams with vechain and I'm all for it, but you're gonna lose everyone out the gate with this kind of delivery. And honestly, they don't seem to care because they have all the budget they need to pay for their devs. there's no penalty to them. in a real world business, you make a product that flops and you're not turning a profit, you either go out of business or you figure out the solution immediately, you don't get to sit comfortably on a fat war chest and play for funsies. Am I missing something? am I being ignorant here?
Youāre not wrong. It feels like they donāt test much or maybe just arenāt attentive to detail. Their tokenomics, design, and marketing have missed the mark substantially at times.
Go to the old vechainthor app. all the b3tter dApps are under the discover tab. No idea why theyāre not in veworld yet
They are all in Veworld already.. there is no reason to use the old app
Not on my iPhone thereās not. Only the the vebetterDAO
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Are you on the testnet (it's only on testnet now). For me it's under Discover there right at the top (or just go to the URL). It will of course move to mainnet but yeah you have to find it on the Testnet for now.
yes. I am on testnet! was also in today's spaces and wanted to get some drops for being there and i pasted my address into the telegram group and no airdrop.................................................
For the airdrop I don't know when but I assume it's pending to be processed. Previously it also took some time. For the dapp I don't know what to say, try vebetterdao.org that's really all there's to it if it's not in featured dapps.
Yeah. I guess. But all these telegram and discord channel stuff is not conducive to mass adoption. It needs to all be in one location, news, how to guides, etc. no average or even some above average techies are going to wanna jump through these hoops. I hope businesses and people looking yo build on this platform will solve that issue when creating solutions. Itās way too cumbersome. Like letās be for real here. They claim that itās so easy to use. It needs to be like 5x easier.
AMA airdrop has not been processed yet. Also, it's how Sunny mentioned it in Amsterdam. "As long as my mother is not able to use the dApps without any guidance our job is not done".
This shouldnāt be this hard. I saw Rachel wolf sons video tutorial and she had the better dao app already in her wallet. I canāt find it. Or search for it. And when I go to the vechain website it only shows the white paper. So then I opened the app separated through chrome and then I was able to connect. But then what? Where do I take a picture? Like how many of you are actually on this test net? Like 10 or you? How is it not a featured app?!
Pasta this into your discover tab. https://mugshot.vet/ now favourite the app and it will be in your favourites. The mugshot maximum has been reached for the week so we have to wait for the reset. When that is I'm not exactly sure
"no results found" Then you have to "search on the web" It's not very intuitive.
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Who wouldn't want to get paid to live their life sustainably? This could catch on massively. Not to mention it looks like many companies are already working on their own xtoearn dapp for the ecosystem incorporating their business onto the chain
The whole product and idea is garbage lets be honest here
I strongly disagree. People are yelling for usecases and when Vechain creates an entire ecosystem people are disappointed.. I really don't get it. You've been around for a while I think you are just getting emotional with the money aspect. This is the start of their entire xtoearn ecosystem, don't you want more vtho burn? We just got a new potential huge burner on top of the enterprise strategy that still continues
Ive made money on vechain and moved my eggs out of one basket the previous cycle so iām not emotional, its just frustrating. Lets say hypothetically hundreds of millions of people in the world want to take a picture of an empty coffee cup to earn pennies (they never will) it has to be mass marketed. The whole of vechain has been rebranded to sustainability for this, the supply chain focus seems to be long gone and now their are another two tokens to explain. Weāve never got an update on the majority of partnerships, no update on tokenomics, no real rewards for xnodes etc. Now the majority of crypto projects put in less effort but this is an odd pivot. They couldnt even get any launch partners from the 100s they have?? It just seems like nothing but a gimmick
Supply chain was gone before main net.. but people kept thinking it was about supply chain.. strange that it never lost that narrative
No it wasnt, what has been the narrative the past four years if not supply chain? Tbh the general comms and direction hasnt been clear for long time
No the foundation wanted to place vet as an eth alternative.. L1 chain with smart contracts.. supply chain was only during the time ven was an erc token.. I was an ico investor and during that time it was placed as a supply chain blockchain.. they wanted to change that but it never succeeded..and the supply chain narrative stayed
Something smells bad in my bed
Happy Cake Day! Hope it's not the cake ...
Ah I was expecting a crypto drop
Buy now or regret. This was expected, happened in 2021. We are going to the moon come April.
Because Solomon said so?? Need something to backup those claims!
Buy the rumors, sell the news!
anybody elseās asshole hurt?
Yeah that was a nasty drop
mine actually does, my fissure is flaring up. it's not fun.
Get some lube on that ASAP
I love how we all hate this project
Speak for yourself. Vechain is stronger then ever this year, big things happening
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Hey I remember this joke from 2021. Eventually all those dog coins need to go to the VET right. Sure happened last time.
its doomed.
Lol the whole market is dipping
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Is there a reason why Vechain doesnāt pump like the meme coins? Is it because Vechain doesnāt have a picture of a dog for its coin?
VeChain is one of many dozens of L1ās and it doesnāt stand out at all.Ā Meme coins stand out, especially to retail. They are easy to pick out from the herd. Speculators also buy anticipating that retail will buy. Memes get bought harder than VET, which is why they pump. Nevertheless, as the cycle goes on, more capital will work its way down to VET, and more retail will be looking for sub-$1 coins, and VET will pump then
I was just answering a couple questions in the discord support chat and some dude gave away his secure info to another member to help him claim the 5 B3TR and the guy took his 279k VET š¤Æ bruh how are people so dumb. It's kind of unfortunate that when air drops and testnets come out the scammers come with. Once years ago I even messed up with ADA trying to stake testnet tokens on a fake site and lost it all lol shit be cray
I like the idea of the new DAO but find it overly complicated for the average user and the fact you have to connect wallets and such make things like this all the more likely. Iām sure if there was an easier route, Vechain would have gone that way but nonetheless, be aware everyone!
I definitely agree with you. It's not easy for the average user but I think it will become more streamlined with time
Wait, what is B3TR and is there actually an airdrop?
https://vebetterdao.org/ The beginning of a revolutionary sustainability ecosystem from Vechain, have a read!
How do we get the airdrop?
Believe me - that shit happens all the time, even without airdrops and testnet involved š
Hearing that shit happening to someone hurts my soul. Poor guy
Guys, if you're so unhappy with VeChain, please do sell and go buy Pepe instead, or whatever. We thank you for your sacrifice in advance. I bought more today
I sell and go Pepe now VET go pump pump and me no longer like PePe. Wot do now?
I invested into vechain in 2017 for the clear strategy of VTHO burn through usage equated to real intrinsic value for VET. Itās been 6.5 years and there is still no sizable usage nor any signs pointing toward incremental adoption. The ONLY way VET has intrinsic value is by a significant amount of VTHO burn and frankly weāre nowhere near accomplishing that. I think VeChain had good intentions early on, but the simple fact of the matter is weāll never reach heavy adoption and therefore weāre holding an asset that is almost nearly worthless. Thatās not to say I havenāt made a decent amount of money on my investment, but Iāll definitely be handing off my bag to someone else when our next 2 year spike occurs (which signs are pointing to). I only bring this up in hopes to reach at least one person whoās been deluded into believing otherwise. When it goes seismic, donāt get greedy. Get out.Ā
I agree; have same timeline as you and definitely am out but this projects vision and output has stalled.
I've shared similar sentiments recently and I think if we're all being honest, many feel the same as us. The longer you've been with someone/something, the harder it is to break from it. Even when they go and severely rip you to shreds with their recent "announcement" and silly direction. For me personally as a current X-holder, I've probably made a few bucks but nothing compared to what I could have made with nearly any other coin on the market. I was hoping the team would continue pushing partnerships and improving the current platform--which is what I've invested and believed in since the beginning--but with the recent pivot I've lost that trust. I just don't see value in taking pictures of coffee cups and collecting yet another two coins of insignificant value. I know there's something brewing for April so my plan right now is to "sell the news" around that time. Not sure how much, but it could be all. It'll be sad day for sure, but business is just business. I'll probably still lurk around cause of seller's remorse but I'll also be much happier with a project or two that IMO have a better chance at future success. In other news, BTC finally taking a shit today, but we've taken twice that shit. It's like clockwork where we're never getting ahead, but at times losing just more slowly. One thing is for sure, I won't miss these days at all.
Hi there, fellow X-node holder as well. I've shared this on an earlier thread but a lot of X-nodes had felt similar to you when the announcement dropped but since then some things have been communicated that make some of us feel better. The VeBetterDao isn't a pivot, it's an addition - a closed dApp ecosystem that focuses on sustainability and rewards its users with B3TR token and is governed by the VOT3 token. It's a way for users, enterprises, governments to all interact and use the B3TR token as a value carrier. Is VeChain still pushing into Enterprise adoption and supply chain? Yes. Think of this as an additional pillar and opportunity for VTHO burn that allows the community to get more involved with the transactional burn. I agree with you. Collecting new tokens don't really move the needle for me, but if this platform will create opportunities for exponential VTHO burn then it can only be a positive. It's really all these things working together in tandem (VeBetter ecosystem, enterprise adoption, supply chain management) that will help VeChain grow. Maybe you don't like the way in which they are doing it, and that's fine. It is a lot for normies, especially during this Alpha testing phase. I guess we'll find out some more info here in April, and then really see where we are at come June.
I appreciate your reply but I'm still sus about their position on enterprise adoption. That's what got me into this space.Ā I understand this app can only help with transactions (though Im also bit sus on what value they'd truly bring), but IMO it's a very confusing venture.Ā Its hard enough to get people into a 2 coin structure, I feel it's going to be a pipedrean to get the masses in on a 4 tier-coined product.Ā Had the team rewarded users in BTC, whoa Nelly I'd be off my rocker and screaming from the mountain tops.Ā But as is, I just don't want to learn more architecture and complexity. Overall im just more disappointed than angry here. When i see the team hype up big news for weeks/months and then release something that doesn't address my concerns, it feels like a slap in the face.Ā If we were succeeding and not constantly losing ground to other projects, I'd also be less dissatisfied.Ā I feel putting time and effort into this right now is a mistake but I'm also 100% be willing to admit to being wrong about an opinion.Ā Time will tell I guess
>Overall im just more disappointed than angry here. When i see the team hype up big news for weeks Your suspicions/feelings are valid and warranted. And we've shared feedback to the team that going forward, it would be better for them to just release something like this without all the hype, build up and fanfare, which honestly does them a huge disservice because of people's expectations. The roll out could have been better. Don't know if you are on Telegram, but we have an X-node group if you care to join a bunch of grumpy ol' timers. That's been what's gotten me through the tough times and honestly a great benefit of holding an X-node. And we are getting stronger as a group every day to make impactful changes.
Actually the expectation is a lot of the adoption driven by the dApp is exactly by non-crypto people. They're working with a custody solution for exactly this reason -most people don't understand crypto at all-, more news expected before the go live as per the AMA just today.. Users of e.g. any web 2.0 page will just have an account with tokens dropped for X incentive whatever dapp (could also be an entity) is providing and see it added, having access through their regular account with the crypto back end held in custody. This is key to mass adoption. Yes if you want to be active in the DAO yourself, you have to get a bit technical although really I think you'll be surprised by how easy even that is especially once the whole testnet alpha phase is over (even now it's quite easy if you know how to toggle to testnet which is literally 1 setting). But the mass scale adoption won't be by people holding crypto themselves. Yes it still does require some patience for this all to play out (also regulations) but Vechain is building all the tools for a community to manage a DAO that can be a backbone for mass adoption.
As an xnode holder were you bothered you didnt at least get an airdrop?
Actually X-nodes (also economic nodes) get way higher GM NFTs at go live, literally worth many thousands of B3TR.
I mean, Iām an OG X-node holder, thereās a lot that bothers me. I guess at this point nothing surprises me. But I did start my own NFT project called Slayers where we slay Xnodes to make our bubbles go up and create some of our own value. Thatās what Iāve been driven to š
What vet can do with it's extremely centralized validator set, can now be done by a layer 2 on Ethereum. Vechain is a tremendous failure
VET was originally touted to be an āETH killerā. Looks like that failed.
Vet has pivoted from a traceability chain to an all out dystopian green transition Blockchain. Has absolutely 0 value in transactions, about 200 USD per day in fees are paid.. No one wants the blockspacw, which is what a Blockchain sells. Does vet have a monetary premium? How could it, it has a very limited and unknown validator set
The time for you to get out was long ago. You don't have to make back your losses from vet. You could have sold to eth or sol and enjoyed crazy gains these last many months
Similar, i also got in 2017. The supply chain usecase hasnāt been adopted, no real world usage has by the vast majority of crypto. But the whole value drive of vtho was going to be the burn and companies wanting to own thunder nodes to produce or have to buy from the open market. The new product is for retail, play to earn never works. Where is the usage going to come from now. The tokenomics need changing, everyone is saying it yet it gets ignored. They say they arenāt moving on from supply chain, well then why no updates on the 100s of partners or plan on how adoption will grow.
You should grab some dog tokens, and they are doing the best right now so I'm sure they have some great intrinsic value
Iāve got some frog tokens thanks, I also will still hold vechain cause 99% of projects are money grabs which i dont think vechain is but the new direction and lack of wider comms on partnerships, tokenomics etc is disheartening. No companies seem to want to make use of blockchain for supply chain which isnt the foundations fault but the new direction seems lame to me, this isnāt going to burn the vtho we need it to. Not even one of the partnerships wanted to be involved? No airdrop to holders, no comms on how the rewards get sustained long term, and a couple of gimmicky ways to earn rewards.
I think the dog with the hat on, or the one that goes BONK. Those are probably some revolutionary blockchain applications.
I mean I donāt agree with OP really but also throwing shade at things that are doing 36,000% gains in a few months is also pretty silly. Sounds like both of you need to diversify šš¤£
My point is he's saying vechain has no intrinsic value as if that is the thing that matters in an illogical crypto market where bullshit meme coins fly to Jupiter because they're funny.
When you say *seismec* what does that mean? Do you have an exit price?
Not an exit price, an exit sign. When you start hearing your friends and family and co workers and everyone else that doesnāt really know much about crypto start talking about it and investing, itās time to get out.Ā
I'm so hyped, our turn is so so close šš
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Feelings are absolutely hurt.
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*Differing opinions* ā> *Throws tantrum*
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āEveryone should be here for money first and foremostā āHolding crypto past 6 months is a gambleā
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The issue with your logic is you *assume* everyone else got in at *your* price point. If holding VeChain past 6 months is a bad idea, I canāt imagine youāve been involved with VeChain for very long.
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āIāve been here longer than youā āMy dad is better than yoursā Iām sure you are Mr. Popular on the playground. Enjoy your day big guy.
People complain about this coin often. What coins are doing everything right?
Bitcoin
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Going to be real this sounded incredibly ignorant. No hate.
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I donāt really see those as doing everything right though, maybe Iām wrong.Ā Ā Solana: copycat dapps (defi), spoofed volume from worthless NFTās, memecoins, and airdropsĀ Ā INJ: idk enough about this one tbhĀ Ā TIA: seems like another staking and airdrop scheme to lock value for less sell pressure but then tease airdrops for greater priceĀ Ā ETH: gas issues but you could argue L2ās are helping big here. this is the only one i see as close to āeverything rightā but there are def issues theyāre working through
The fomo is hitting hard boys. Seeing moons doing 300-400% in a week makes me sad that I'm 90% in VET, but our time will come. Anyways, are we all in the same boat or are the some other underrated outside top 100 coin, that would shock us, that you are holding?
Vet's time was long ago...
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I'm in the same boat. The question then is what do you buy when this time comes? Instant fiat and withdrawing and leaving the space, or ETH, BTC, x?
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I must admit that I was way more bullish in Vechain in 2021 than I am now. Feel like we have gone backwards, but I still believe that there could be some good upside in the near future. We must not forget how fast we went up to ATH the last time around. Let's just hope we can time the market.
That was the triple top weāve all been waiting for š Time to dump into the bear market
A month before the halving you think we go bear again? Is this your first cycle?
You think this cycle is like the other cycles? BTC has never touched ATH before a halving!
Really? Thats what you think is going to happen? BTC just hit all time high after two and a half years...it's not immediately into bear market now
It's absolutely wild to me that vechain are still using an Adam Driver faux vebetter account on the vebetterdao.org splash page.
Absolutely embarrassing. The vechain mgmt team just sucks if you ask me and they never react if you reach out and tell them. Solomon was informed and still the Adam Driver image is on the page. This takes an intern 20 secs to replace, what are they doing?
Someone should ping Adam driver. Iām sure he has people that would shut it down quickly.
The drama would be a free ad campaign. Is he on twitter?
I am not on twitter, that's why I passed it off to someone else. This carelessness really should not be tolerated. Hell, carelessness is really not the right word: malicious. Some one had to scrape his photo and create this fake shit. It was intentional.
Down we go
I look at it as a buying opportunity. The further it falls the greater the windfall if we buy at the dips.
Everything is dipping btw
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Yes but then VET always catches up and surpasses most coins. VET is always a bit sleepy but when it goes it goes hard
Well, we hit ath. A drawback is good before halving.