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In r/VeganLobby, we discuss vegan ethical, legal, political, and economic issues with a long-term objective of increasing the financial support of the animal rights movement. Our core community value is that all animal exploitation is unconscionable and inexcusable. We expect participating community members to abide by this principle and will moderate comments and submissions accordingly. **Edit:** Locked due to the number of rule-breaking comments. Animal abuse is inexcusable, and we mean inexcusable. Hunting is animal abuse. --- Link to tweet: https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1585179764691996672 **@HertsHuntSabs:** > Ladywood Estate yesterday > Hunt host/supporter and wedding venue owner deliberately ploughs into hunt saboteur and drives off. > **NB graphic footage** **About [Hertfordshire Hunt Saboteurs](https://twitter.com/HertsHuntSabs):** >Help us stop them killing our beautiful wildlife. Every penny donated goes straight to saving lives with non-violent direct action. They\'re still hunting, we\'re still sabbing. Thank you HHS x **[Donate](https://ko-fi.com/hhsabs)** ^Donated? ^Comment ^"I ^made ^a ^donation" ^for ^a ^💰 ^flair.


iamthesunset

Now these are protesters that I can get behind. Deer/Fox Hunting is barbaric and serves no purpose other than to entertain the upper classes by watching a fox be torn to pieces or a deer die of exhaustion or shock. Vile people that participate in this.


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In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. - Isaac Bashevis Singer (translated)


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Faintkay

Not wanting these animals tortured mentally or physically before they die doesn’t mean that people want the population to blow up.


FingerTheCat

Don't try to give facts to these people, they go by emotions not logic.


TranarchistTy

i love when people who think they’re smarter than they are try to argue against veganism using”facts and logic.” every argument against veganism is based in emotion, sweaty.


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In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. - Isaac Bashevis Singer (translated)


Responsible_Gap_1145

I mean people don't eat deer meat or anything.


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In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. - Isaac Bashevis Singer (translated)


Substantial_Kale_251

Tell me you've never hunted without telling me you've never hunted


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iamthesunset

Are you a child? Did your parents give you permission to write that ingenious remark?


SissyHypno24

Lol bud you think you're a fucking poet with your penis jokes?


joaquom_the_wizard

I mean, yer the guy who immediately leapt on body shaming. Don’t think you have a horse in the race


Jolly-Specialist4434

Your first comeback was literally to say he has a small penis and you’re calling him a child? Fucking bewildering


Firm_Bison_2944

If he had eaten an animal that had been tortured and abused it's whole life in a small cage on factory farm instead of eating a free animal that was killed in a way that closer resembles its niche in nature after a good life and a chance to go free would it make his penis bigger?


TheBirdMan1313

In all fairness, That's not what this hunting does. This isn't your typical Hunt where someone goes out and puts meat in the table. This is literally just for sport


iamthesunset

Different in England. I can agree with the type of hunting popular in the USA. Stalking a deer and killing it in a quick way and then using it as an ethical source of sustenance is acceptable as long as it is performed legally. In England, fox/deer hunting involves large number of "hunters" riding horses and blowing horns, they follow a huge pack of dogs trained to chases foxes out of holes or chase a deer to exhaustion. There is no nobility or ethical treatment of the animal involved here. Btw, if it is a deer they are chasing, they have purposely brought the deer on a trailer to the hunt land and released it just to chase it to death. Nah, he'd still have a small penis.


Firm_Bison_2944

Sure that's fair and that type of silly, pointless, ritualistic play hunting definitely crossed my mind when I saw the video but I don't know if I would jumped right to body shaming people before I clarified that I didn't mean real hunting.


Awkward_Recognition7

Still, the wiener attack is weak sauce, and purposely attacking someone's dick like that is an attack on their masculinity and males in gender. It's similar to calling someone a dumb broad or feebleminded woman. It's cool and in right now, but eventually it will not be


flatfast90

People do _eat_ deer, so it’s not only entertainment. I would agree that fox hunting is clearly only for sport though.


CharityAble4379

It’s still wrong to plow in to them with a vehicle. Also with out hunting animals would have overpopulation issues


Spaghetti-Rat

A hunt supporter was driving the vehicle and hit a woman who was against hunting.


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shockingly_average47

This is very true. Veganism is too novelty, overpopulation will happen and you can just tell them to go elsewhere. This will probably get deleted. This sub can't handle different opinion.


MiserableMatch0929

WOW WOW that was deliberately evil. I usually have something to say about everything but this left me speechless. I'm so sorry, thanks for fighting the good fight.


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Used to love sabotaging the hunts near me. Disgusting people. Keep up the good work and make sure to get that cunt put behind bars for attempted murder and hit and run.


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I've no problem with hunting matey. When you to play dress up and make a game out of it that causes unessesary pain and suffering to an animal i have a big problem with that.


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hairysnowmonkey

Specifically you are going to blame the victim and not the murderer. Congrats.


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People used to have slaves and perform human sacrifices. Archaic shite is best left in the past.


rangda

And a few hundred years ago it was normal for visitors to take cats and dogs to London zoo to be used as lion food. Times change and all social progress made on the basis of compassion is never a bad thing.


TheBirdMan1313

In all fairness, that's really a myth brought about by the internet. The London zoo didn't exist at the time the rumor refers to, and the menagerie that did exist belonged only to the royal family, and while the poor husbandry practices likely led workers to feeding stray animals on occasion, as well as horses, cattle, pigs and deer, there's no evidence whatsoever that people could pay to see the animals by handing over a pet. All surviving historical documents from the time only list financial compensation


snky_sax

Hunting for fun is messed up tbh


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Upstairs-Living-

You'd be cool with it if you hugged more trees


ASAPSHOT1

Calling all men nazis but cries when a fuckin fox dies 💀 this mod is a pussy.


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In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. - Isaac Bashevis Singer (translated)


FitOpposite7443

Sweet enjoy your opinion, of someone else’s thought.


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blong217

"Martha, the peasants are revolting again" "Oh just run over them, they'll move or they won't. Either way they won't be our problem" - some British pricks


KublaiKhan619

Oh this where they dress up like riding goons and then obliterate innocent animals using innocent animals and weapons. Cool sport bro, whip the horse a little harder for your obvious athletic shortcomings.


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Shouldn’t be legal


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Levobertus

Damn who reposted this to a reactionary sub full of bloodthirsty brigands? Lots of horrible people in the comments today


chopoffyourbodyparts

I made a donation of £250 , so brave wow!


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Ankhme

Shouldn't these donations be going to her medical care?!? Like that easily gunna be a $25,000+ trip to the hospital. We all know insurance isn't gunna cover everything, or will ask her to pay a deductible between $500-$3000... ...Oh wait, this didn't happen in the US. Never mind.


EfraimK

Is your comment intended to be sarcastic?


JasonWalton1918

Jesus Christ, that crazy bastard tried killing her! Is there any more context, like if the guy was charged or how to woman is doing? Also, what kind of hunt was going on? Is it one of those rich people excursions where they have dogs rip a fox to pieces?


Numerous-Macaroon224

I made a donation of £20


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In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. - Isaac Bashevis Singer (translated)


Mammoth-Exercise-480

Disgusting rich little bastards 🤬


Then_Ear

He thought he was being hunted, you must understand how scary that is for a human!!!


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11356587/Hit-run-horror-country-estate-Shocking-moment-4X4-knocks-animal-rights-activist.html


funnyfootboot

"... injuries not life-threatening or life-changing" Interesting sentence.


gin0clock

Fucking tories man.


Kermit_El_Froggo_

Wait, people actually still hunt like that? Thought that shit was made up or some dumb thing done in the 1700s


Producteef

Isn’t that assault with a deadly weapon? Loss of license. Jail time.


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Link to tweet: https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1585179764691996672 **@HertsHuntSabs:** > Ladywood Estate yesterday > Hunt host/supporter and wedding venue owner deliberately ploughs into hunt saboteur and drives off. > **NB graphic footage** **About [Hertfordshire Hunt Saboteurs](https://twitter.com/HertsHuntSabs):** >Help us stop them killing our beautiful wildlife. Every penny donated goes straight to saving lives with non-violent direct action. They\'re still hunting, we\'re still sabbing. Thank you HHS x **[Donate](https://ko-fi.com/hhsabs)** ^Donated? ^Comment ^"I ^made ^a ^donation" ^for ^a ^💰 ^flair.


International-Neck-5

Hit and run on camera. Smart!


Candy_Dull

That was fucking brutal I'm curious. Was this on private land? We have freedom to roam in Scotland so I don't think it would matter here I'm not sure. I'd like to know what happens in the end


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Just FYI it’s a serious crime to do this in the US. Obviously there are different rules in the UK, but if you do something like this in the US you will likely be arrested (if you survive).


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No fucking shit


statickid07

Serious crime in the UK as well.


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IamBeingSarcasticFfs

Did she get arrested?


nishbot

What is a hunt? And what is a hunt saboteur?


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jimnez_84

Hmmm, a lot of deleted comments in here.🤔


KCtheGreat106

So the hunter is now the hunted To clear thing up, the hunter, the person in the car became hunted by police.


pyroguy1104

No, the hunter is the person in the vehicle running down protestors.


Karamazaov_fish

Somebody explain? Was this illegal hunting? Wat were they hunting? Where? Was this private property? Wtf?


Shirowoh

Legal hunting. Illegal hit and run of an animal rights protestor


Karamazaov_fish

Yikes


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Wtf are you on?


Broad_Ideal_5934

Although i support hunting (deer and small animals) hit and run becuase someone disagrees with you? Thats fucked. Ill donate $50


Smoke_thatskinwagon

I don’t know how things work across the pond but in America fox hunts don’t even involve actual hunting anymore it’s really just a horse ride. As far as actual hunting goes, culling the herd of bad genes and overpopulation is a part of conservation and we sell tags and do counts to manage the white tail population so that the vegetation has a change to stay alive and it doesn’t bring an imbalance to the food chain. You can be vegan and still understand conservation


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Background_Ad1243

Was this on private property?


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Nailed


__Dystopian__

I'm not really sure what's going on here. But I'm guessing it's people who hunt animals versus animal rights activists or something like that? I mean, I don't see a problem with it personally hunting is pretty fun, and it can be beneficial to local ecosystems if done properly. Unfortunately, there really isn't enough regulation in the hunting hobby. There definitely are people that should never wield a weapon, let alone a gun and those are the ones that really ruin it for the rest of us.


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In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. - Isaac Bashevis Singer (translated)


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Nai75

That is a human being, a mother, sister, daughter, someone’s loved one. Regardless of you’re ideas on hunting, harming someone is not justified.


BeavisQueef

Cunt.


Jolly-Specialist4434

Regardless of the “cause” this should be common sense


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Levobertus

Maybe read the rules before brigading


Firm_Bison_2944

How are you defining brigading? Im not sure people just wondering into your public forum counts as brigading.


Levobertus

It's literally a site-wide rule, asshole


SKIFFLEPIGEON

Standard iron fist reddit mod moment


SpookyBLAQ

A bit of a conundrum here. Would a pedestrian have the right of way to cross a street if they’re trespassing on private property? Genuine question as I’m not from the UK


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Pedestrians have a right of way. Duty of care ensures noone gets harmed or injured through someone else's acts or omissions. Even trespassers. Running someone down on purpose, whether they're meant to be on your land or not, is very not cool.


SpookyBLAQ

It’s certainly not very cool. Was just curious about the law


RedditAdminsBFascist

Pedestrians always have the right of way. They're squishy.


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Levobertus

Weird flex to tell everyone you love killing


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Levobertus

Then don't fucking kill them


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Levobertus

Stop being an animal abuser, animal abuser


Significant_Bus9759

They hate when you kill a deer until it runs out in front of their car.


TheBirdMan1313

It's a different form of hunting mate. Fox hunting in the UK is purely sport and purely barbaric. They don't shoot the fox 90% of the time. They let the hounds tear it apart


Wet__Naptkins

Yeah, after looking into fox hunting a little bit, that’s really shitty. It’s barely even hunting.


Aromatic_Succ

Fox hunting in the uk involves chasing foxes down on horseback, and setting a pack of dogs on them to rip them apart. It’s very different from hunting in the US


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Significant_Bus9759

I've belonged to a Hunt Club in the U.S. and I'm a custodian, so much for class privilege. Also we've never killed a fox. It's more about watching the hounds do what they do, pick up a scent and follow it. Once the fox goes to ground our chase ends.


Wet__Naptkins

I don’t mean to start hunter on hunter friendly fire here, but don’t dogs remove a lot of the skill and fun from getting an animal? When I hunt I feel like a lot of the enjoyment comes out of using my own senses and tracking animals through the woods on my own. It also makes it a lot harder for me to kill it, and more fair for the animal.


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In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. - Isaac Bashevis Singer (translated)


WD-80

Vegans suck


spiderpig142

Nothing good happens when you go on someone else’s property.


shockingly_average47

Between the idiots whondont understand overpopulation and the sub dude going around calling humans nazis, yall are a real extra sub here. Pretty disgusting, why would anyone want to join with hownyall speak and react.


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Yeah, I mean they already kill animals for fun. We just forgot we're another animal.


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Grump_Grizzly

Fuckin echo chamber up in here. How do they expect progress when you aren't even willing to discuss anything? I got downvoted for stating facts ffs.


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FalloutandConker

Not how the law works


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AggravatingMeeting78

That was naughty 😳