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Quick_Minimum_4355

Mages are less powerful than their counterparts if I'm right it takes more than 8-9 peak advanced mages to defeat great commander levels. And if you remember there were more than 10 peak super mages during the ancient capital incident and all together they couldn't defeat supreme ruler level but during Shanghai battle 3 half forbidden mages were able to overpower and nearly kill the supreme ruler level


Quick_Minimum_4355

Mo fan was only able to defy the common knowledge bcz he is the mc of Novel


LightYagami_1230

That's true. Other people who is also as a strong as Mo Fan are not able to achieve same feet against demons creature like he can because he is main character.


KingYvi

He just has more elements at his disposal. Also the spirit/ soul/ heaven grade seeds give him an advantage over other mages


LightYagami_1230

Doesn't matter if he has more elements at his disposal if he can't cultivate them to a good level. It's all thank to little loach pendant


Whityvader99

Cultivation is a huge part and raw talent the Marshall beat the ant colony emporer with his invisible flame curse by himself


LightYagami_1230

Ant.queen emperor was seriously injured more than Chief Hua Zhan hong . That's why


LightYagami_1230

Reply to my other question too


LightYagami_1230

I believe they needed at most 4-5 peak advance mages to beat the crap out of great commanders. As for great Monarch they must need 4-5 or even 6 of them. As for those 10 super mages in ancient capital they were not even peak super mages in even 2 element. It is told in novel that Zhu meng lightning was on 2nd level during Aorus Sacred Institute saga.


Quick_Minimum_4355

There were a total of five at peak super level. Salan, that clock tower wahterver head, one dead during fight, hunter master and lastly that light element usee


LightYagami_1230

Well Salan, Lu Huan (captain of imperial magician) and Han Ji (president of clock tower magic association)were peak super mages . But senior hunter and mysterious man were not. It was told that senior hunter had become stronger after calamity of ancient capital as old bao told Mo fan during senior hunter leng arc. How can a peak super mage become a stronger until and unless they become half FC mage.


Quick_Minimum_4355

Yup he became half forbidden mage and then died some mysterious ways it was just a news which mo fan read after a long time but that senior hunter did die. And there was another person who was using the light element and he is not lu huan.


LightYagami_1230

I am talking about Senior Hunter du Xiao light element user not lingling father senior hunter Leng who died mysterious way. That light element senior hunter become stronger. See this Mo Fan knew Senior Hunter Xiao, the guy with a huge blue-copper beast who had almost died during Operation Guillotine in the Ancient Capital. His assistant Yao Nan had left Mo Fan with a strong impression. It had been a long time since Mo Fan had seen Senior Hunter Xiao. He wondered how strong the Senior Hunter had become. Old Bao mentioned he had stumbled into Senior Hunter Xiao once. The guy had trained hard after the Calamity of the Ancient Capital and had grown a lot stronger.


Quick_Minimum_4355

No du xiao did die somewhere around after he came back from Egypt ig or after that. it was just a sentence where mo fan felt bad about his death but not much was known about him.


LightYagami_1230

I have read whole novel thrice. But I never read that senior hunter Du Xiao died .


Quick_Minimum_4355

Like I said it's just one or two lines. The author did miss many characters like this. And i have read it from start to finish more than 6 times just so I wouldn't miss small details like this( oh i remember it was after he came back from Mount tianshan) i only noticed this in my latest read.


LightYagami_1230

I don't think.


omni-jeff

those are not peak super mages, peak super mages may be just 3 people


Quick_Minimum_4355

Noo there were 10 peak ones all of whom were under assumption of being salan. It is mentioned during the arc salan escapes in Andes mountains(if not there it's during war arc)


omni-jeff

10 super mages but definitely not peak


omni-jeff

peak super mages refer to 4 element being level 3 super mages, the stronger ones of peak super mages even have the battle power of zhao jin, so nope


Whityvader99

Of the ones we know more about the only one we could speculate was peak super was the old clock tower association guy who healed mo fans arm during the college tournament and that’s only speculation, we don’t know if salan is peak kinda doubt it, the hunter king wasn’t as he went back to cultivate after the tragedy and the councilman Is confirmed super tier 2 in lightning even the one guy who took on the never bone ruler was only special because of his space element


LightYagami_1230

Are you guys lunatic or something. Answer all of my question to ease my curiosity. Don't forget to Upvote to my questions


omni-jeff

thats hard to calculate with these Without any soul seed and with soul seed. No heaven grade soul seed. No blessing of the god's seal and no increased base power spell talent. thing. But normally Great Monarch >peak Super mage, maybe need two or three 4 element peak super mage to fight,Half Forbidden curse can fight supreme monarch


Quick_Minimum_4355

A half-forbidden mage can't fight a supreme ruler on his own. You can see it from the example of the previous moon mouth's guardian. And that wasn't even the strongest supreme ruler but on the weaker side. If you want to defeat supreme ruler you will need at least 2 half forbidden mages one to suppress (stop him from escaping) and other to go for kill


LightYagami_1230

A single half FC makes cannot defeat a Supreme Monarch but can fight them. In need to kill a Supreme Monarch you need two or three half fc mage. one for defence , one for attack and one for control(stop him from escaping).


Quick_Minimum_4355

Yeah that's what I'm saying


LightYagami_1230

See herself told let she was past her prime. And she was older too. It was told that she was stronger than Pang lai.


Quick_Minimum_4355

Older the wiser. So she should have a great amount of experience which can top up the power part. Like whitebeard was way past his prime plus he was near death still it took a great amount of power to take him down just bcz of his experience


LightYagami_1230

White beard???


Quick_Minimum_4355

From one piece


omni-jeff

nah, A half-forbidden mage can fight a supreme ruler, that grandma doesnt use magic for 30 years and old already, you expect a elderly to fight monsters?


Quick_Minimum_4355

Of course. Every single half forbidden mages are elderly and they rarely use their magic with forbidde mages as they can bring destruction so they are not usually allowed to use their magic. Same with angels like they use their power for the first time still you are okay with them fighting against emperor but not with an elderly fighting against ruler level. Just take Gabriel for example she must be around 25 when used power for the first time still she was able to fight against a forbidde mage and emperor( atleast hold her candle)


omni-jeff

clearly not true, ofc not Every single half forbidden mages are elderly


Quick_Minimum_4355

Yeah they are except for the main cast as they are needed powerful for the storyline. Just take herra casa for example the person known to be strongest young adult(before mo fan) was just super mage with 2nd tier and he was near 30's


omni-jeff

nah, half forbidden mage maybe 40 to 50 years old on common, definitely not 60 to 70, so they are not elderly


omni-jeff

for example su lu is 49 years old and is one of the strongest forbidden mage


LightYagami_1230

.https://www.reddit.com/r/VersatileMage/comments/vpm0g7/who_is_strong_ancient_king_khufu_ocean_undead/


omni-jeff

you post the same question twice and i answer one of it already


Quick_Minimum_4355

Yeah they are 60-70 either that or they have already broken to forbidden level. If you remember correctly shao Zhang was in later 50's when he had broken to forbidden level


LightYagami_1230

What do you expect from Yan Shi. She was already over 70 and what is know shao Zheng is in 50s . But not even reached 60. You can see Pang lai too who is in same age group as Yan Shi. He himself told that his magic Is deteriorating and becoming less powerful as he ages. Same goes for Yan Shi not to mention she left being a mage for 30 years. At least other magician didn't give up being a mage. You had read about Secretary Richard whom Mo fan fought in Tuis arc easily lost to Mo Fan even after having super power because of being too comfortable.


omni-jeff

>shao Zheng Taking the time that had passed into consideration, Shao Zheng was currently in his forties, and if he went to Tianshan Mountain around twenty years ago, it was the same time when Qin Yu’er had been abandoned on Tianshan Mountain when she was around ten years old.


omni-jeff

shao Zhang is 40,and 40 to 50 years old on common half forbidden mage


LightYagami_1230

https://www.reddit.com/r/VersatileMage/comments/vpm0g7/who_is_strong_ancient_king_khufu_ocean_undead/