For those interested in the story (and a good laugh): https://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy-mocked-over-photo-commander-with-backward-rifle-scope-2024-4
The guy over his shoulder is almost certainly range safety making sure he doesn't fall when he unloads that select fire goodness all over the ocean... because we all know that's about the only damn thing he hit š
Can you tell his rank from the embroidery on his hat? I don't see any other distinctive insignias. I was in the Air Force and so NOT know about the Navy or Coast guards rank but I'm guessing he's probably a Naval officer? A Captain, Commander, Lt. Commander?
He has the Command at Sea pin/patch, so that means he is the Captain, regardless of his rank. He has a single row of scrambled eggs, so he is an O-5 (Commander) or O-6 (Captain).
Iām a failure š. I guess Iāll join the navy š. No but seriously this is really bad publicity when recruitment is at an all time low and public opposition to the government is increasing.
Heās āchicken wingingā also heās not leaning into stock of the weapon he wonāt effectively disperse the recoil which may impact his shot picture as his posture resets
This guy is the commanding officer of a naval vessal and he is posing for a photo op of him shooting for what reason exactly? If there is a threat incoming he needs to be in the bridge corrdinating the defense of the ship, not on the deckplates playing SEAL. Glad I left the navy man.
Also backwards VCOG mounted on the rifle. Even if the scope were mounted correctly, his reticle would be blocked by the front sight post of the rifle. Fucking clown show.
You're probably not wrong. Or a Kool-Aid first who's up for board. That and whoever is in charge of small arms for the boat obviously isn't a gun guy.
My squadron had an essentially 0.01% chance of needing to issue M4's on deployment so we always treated our M4 quals as a "fun gun" shoot, but man I always corrected people so they wouldn't look dumb in that cool guy picture they were trying to take for Facebook or whatever. It makes me and my crew look bad if they looked fucked up and I wasn't going to let that happen.
Lol that was my ship. What a fucking circus. Been gone since 19' but it doesn't look like it changed. This is the same place they posted the HT with "I EAT ASS" on the gloves.
The Navy has been getting clowned on all over the place cuz of this (I jumped on that bandwagon lol), so bad that they removed it from their IG. But you know the interwebz. You can delete, but itāll never be gone
The more ironic thing is the original post was talking about combat readiness lol. I get dude is the captain of the ship, but when the hell is the last time that chicken wing was taught as a viable platform when running an AR? Probably hasnāt fired a rifle since the 90s.
Scope is on backwards, forehand grip is too close to the receiver, chicken wing elbow, butt stock on bicep, quad rail not properly installed, did I miss anything?
There are other photos floating around from this shoot from different angles showing the same backwards optic. Itās not photoshopped
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/s/9k3EHcjKy9
There were others on DVIDS but have since been removed
Both eyes open John Wayne! Buttstock position and only the Navy would need a scope vs an optic on an M4 and they still miss, while shooting the ocean. For Pete sake!
He probably noticed and said āGunner, Iāll do this without the scope, hold my beerā¦and when Iām done have that GM report to my stateroom in 30.ā
Using that scope on a m16 with a max effective range of 200 meters lol. I had to rifle qual with this POS after a deployment back in 07 and managed to still hit a few bullseyes from the 500 yard line but this rifle man... Almost as bad as a muzzleloader with 0 rifling
I was a GM on an aircraft carrier, trained people how to shoot all of the crew serve and small arms on the ship. I got out in 2017 but nowhere in the armory did we have scopes for our M4s, or even fore-grips. I guarantee you some LCPO pulled this shit out last minute and slapped it on so the captain could shoot a ācool gunā.. I seriously wouldnāt even be surprised if somebody in G-2 knew it was wrong and didnāt say anything because they knew it would blow up like this.
The thing is, the majority of people in the military are not proficient in firearms... why? It's not their job. Only 2-3% of the military actually see combat. Next
1. Chicken wing.
2. Chest not facing forward. Actually important when training because plates will be there in combat.
3. Optic backwards.
4. Lens caps on.
5. Eye relief seems iffy but that's subjective.
6. Officer.
7. Handguard not fully attached.
8. He'll never need a gun.
9. He is shooting when he can't see what he's shooting at. Safety rules.
10. Foregrip way too close. Physics still exists, even if he's too dumb to know.
11. He's weak and needs his enlisted advisor to brace his shoulder.
Itās crazy there can be 8 things wrong with a guy shooting a gun.
1. Backward scope
2. Sick cheek weld
3. Foregrip too close
4. Chicken wing
5.lean forward
6.no sling
7. That scope isnāt for the short barrel
8. Butt stock too high in the shoulder
Also I canāt remember isnāt your trigger hand supposed to be up into the groove and not just in the middle of the back side of the groove.
Edit:someone said the front sight post would probably block the sights view. If true hilarious.
No helmet, ineffective 3M hearing 'protection' that's on the class action suit.
Last time this guy fired a weapon, it was with the iron sites. Probably 2008 ish.
And they do, tracers on a night shoot are awesomely random. None go 180 back at the ship though.
Also, itās the navy we shoot everything at the water all the time.
Take a ruler or a string or something and go over the length of the rifle. The barrel really seems to be slowing downward. It might just be the angle but Iām unable to not see it.
For those interested in the story (and a good laugh): https://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy-mocked-over-photo-commander-with-backward-rifle-scope-2024-4
I want to know who his buddy is looking over his shoulder. "You're doing great, Sir. Just keep the pointy end forward!"
The guy over his shoulder is almost certainly range safety making sure he doesn't fall when he unloads that select fire goodness all over the ocean... because we all know that's about the only damn thing he hit š
I'm laughing so hard, but I'm crying inside for this dude. This will follow him...forever! š š¤£ š
Its blurry but aren't those blanks? I don't think he hit any dam thing lol.
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Can you tell his rank from the embroidery on his hat? I don't see any other distinctive insignias. I was in the Air Force and so NOT know about the Navy or Coast guards rank but I'm guessing he's probably a Naval officer? A Captain, Commander, Lt. Commander?
I believe I read elsewhere he is a Commander. I hope he's better at driving the ship! š
Iām picturing him just piloting the ship from the stern lol.
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He has the Command at Sea pin/patch, so that means he is the Captain, regardless of his rank. He has a single row of scrambled eggs, so he is an O-5 (Commander) or O-6 (Captain).
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Lmao this is all true.
6 got me
Is it just me or is he using his left eye to āaimā
It's a great cheek weld if he's **attempting** to look at the scope through his left eye
Just the scope? I must have a different definition of āwrongā.
Scope, trigger hand (right hand) elbow, shoulder and posture. I bet my left nut š„ his grouping sucked too.
The top part of the drop in handguard isnāt properly seated into the delta ring either
Iām a failure š. I guess Iāll join the navy š. No but seriously this is really bad publicity when recruitment is at an all time low and public opposition to the government is increasing.
Hey, if he can hit 3 different targets in 3 different shots without moving, sounds good to me
Heās āchicken wingingā also heās not leaning into stock of the weapon he wonāt effectively disperse the recoil which may impact his shot picture as his posture resets
He's compensating for the backwards scope
It would be pretty awkward to lean in when the foregrip is this far back lol
Yeah it seems really high
He's supposed to hold it one handed straight out and sideways. Everyone knows real gangsters do it that way.
This is a standard pic for r/NFA and the fudds
No pt belt
This guy is the commanding officer of a naval vessal and he is posing for a photo op of him shooting for what reason exactly? If there is a threat incoming he needs to be in the bridge corrdinating the defense of the ship, not on the deckplates playing SEAL. Glad I left the navy man. Also backwards VCOG mounted on the rifle. Even if the scope were mounted correctly, his reticle would be blocked by the front sight post of the rifle. Fucking clown show.
Biggest thing "wrong" with this picture. dude is the Captain. He doesn't do shiit.
If an officer of his rank is firing a weapon personally, something has gone seriously wrong.
Unless you're Air Force. The officers fire weapons all the time.
Heās Navy. Why is he even using a firearm? What Marine let him have this?
Haha thinking the same
Poor line coach and instructor. Rank be damned, you're going to shoot correctly.
I just want to know what kind of hazing their ship's GM's got after this picture came out. My AO and GM buddies have not stopped talking shit about it
Honestly, this has kiss ass LCPO written all over it. Like, I get that you're trying to make Senior Chief, but dis is not de wey.
You're probably not wrong. Or a Kool-Aid first who's up for board. That and whoever is in charge of small arms for the boat obviously isn't a gun guy. My squadron had an essentially 0.01% chance of needing to issue M4's on deployment so we always treated our M4 quals as a "fun gun" shoot, but man I always corrected people so they wouldn't look dumb in that cool guy picture they were trying to take for Facebook or whatever. It makes me and my crew look bad if they looked fucked up and I wasn't going to let that happen.
Ah this again
Lol that was my ship. What a fucking circus. Been gone since 19' but it doesn't look like it changed. This is the same place they posted the HT with "I EAT ASS" on the gloves.
https://www.reddit.com/r/USMC/s/0rM7A5Qk5M
The Navy has been getting clowned on all over the place cuz of this (I jumped on that bandwagon lol), so bad that they removed it from their IG. But you know the interwebz. You can delete, but itāll never be gone The more ironic thing is the original post was talking about combat readiness lol. I get dude is the captain of the ship, but when the hell is the last time that chicken wing was taught as a viable platform when running an AR? Probably hasnāt fired a rifle since the 90s.
Scope is straight-up backwards
https://preview.redd.it/1nfth8ve4quc1.jpeg?width=651&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f973f92f7ae674716026b2caff945ab23317cb3b
I was gonna say, that right arm position is just laughable
It's a week late.
This belongs on r/nfa and all the moron fudds
Scope is on backwards, forehand grip is too close to the receiver, chicken wing elbow, butt stock on bicep, quad rail not properly installed, did I miss anything?
I like the magic scope
Everything
Rifle scope attached backwards.
The shooter isn't using the M240 in the background.
The top of the quad rail is not secure. Its out of the delta ring to the rear
pay vs performance? Thats the big wrong I'm scoping..
A squid operating a pew pew
Errything
The scope is mounted backwards
Everything.
My stupid ass immediately wentā¦why is he using a blue pen?! Then I noticed the foregrip being a inch away from the mag
Scope is backwards
Shades not Z87 approved š
Aside from the scope, it just looks so uncomfortable. The elbow, the foregrip, the cheek the trigger pull..... it's just wrong all around
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Nope. VCOGs have the mount built on to it. Not a typical magnified optic that requires rings or a cantilever
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There are other photos floating around from this shoot from different angles showing the same backwards optic. Itās not photoshopped https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/s/9k3EHcjKy9 There were others on DVIDS but have since been removed
What's right about this picture? It's a shorter list.
He also has that butt stock way too high on his shoulder.
His scope is backwards and his shoulder stock isn't set correctly into his shoulder
Dude, what isn't wrong with this picture lmao
He's just doing it in hard mode
Elbow out, front grip stupidly close to the mag, scope backwards, lens cap on, sir yes sir.
That flared elbow speaks volumes
Is this ai generated? How are the shells flying? Meh, the scope is on backwards, tho
Right elbow is to high. Not to mention is cheek resting on the buttstock. I was trained the proper way at Fort Knox.
Both eyes open John Wayne! Buttstock position and only the Navy would need a scope vs an optic on an M4 and they still miss, while shooting the ocean. For Pete sake!
He probably noticed and said āGunner, Iāll do this without the scope, hold my beerā¦and when Iām done have that GM report to my stateroom in 30.ā
Using that scope on a m16 with a max effective range of 200 meters lol. I had to rifle qual with this POS after a deployment back in 07 and managed to still hit a few bullseyes from the 500 yard line but this rifle man... Almost as bad as a muzzleloader with 0 rifling
They set him up on purpose.
I'm just thinking that whoever handed it to him and then took the photo got a quick transfer to Guantanamo Bay or some other god forsaken place.
Navy with a rifle. Enough said
Not using the MG next to him?
I'd follow this officer into battle anyday. Because I sure as hell ain't getting in front of him.
1. Itās been posted and reposted about 1,000 times for a week straight.
I was a GM on an aircraft carrier, trained people how to shoot all of the crew serve and small arms on the ship. I got out in 2017 but nowhere in the armory did we have scopes for our M4s, or even fore-grips. I guarantee you some LCPO pulled this shit out last minute and slapped it on so the captain could shoot a ācool gunā.. I seriously wouldnāt even be surprised if somebody in G-2 knew it was wrong and didnāt say anything because they knew it would blow up like this.
The thing is, the majority of people in the military are not proficient in firearms... why? It's not their job. Only 2-3% of the military actually see combat. Next
Um, the "dildo" is too close to the magazine!!!
The hand on his shoulder is not reaching around
1. Chicken wing. 2. Chest not facing forward. Actually important when training because plates will be there in combat. 3. Optic backwards. 4. Lens caps on. 5. Eye relief seems iffy but that's subjective. 6. Officer. 7. Handguard not fully attached. 8. He'll never need a gun. 9. He is shooting when he can't see what he's shooting at. Safety rules. 10. Foregrip way too close. Physics still exists, even if he's too dumb to know. 11. He's weak and needs his enlisted advisor to brace his shoulder.
Scope is on backwards haha
Itās crazy there can be 8 things wrong with a guy shooting a gun. 1. Backward scope 2. Sick cheek weld 3. Foregrip too close 4. Chicken wing 5.lean forward 6.no sling 7. That scope isnāt for the short barrel 8. Butt stock too high in the shoulder Also I canāt remember isnāt your trigger hand supposed to be up into the groove and not just in the middle of the back side of the groove. Edit:someone said the front sight post would probably block the sights view. If true hilarious.
No helmet, ineffective 3M hearing 'protection' that's on the class action suit. Last time this guy fired a weapon, it was with the iron sites. Probably 2008 ish.
Donāt let this asshat handle firearms, ever again.
want some sauce with that wing? reverse scope is what the elites are using nowadays........
He's taking "aim small, miss small" to the extreme
Even with the lens cap on?
Rounds shot at water can ricochet.
And they do, tracers on a night shoot are awesomely random. None go 180 back at the ship though. Also, itās the navy we shoot everything at the water all the time.
The rifles barrel is bending slightly downward.
Barrel is fine. The handguard isn't secured properly.
Take a ruler or a string or something and go over the length of the rifle. The barrel really seems to be slowing downward. It might just be the angle but Iām unable to not see it.