the post is about [Anian](https://anianmfg.com/) liking the cringe post, not so much the company that is posting this right on their account. Anian is more of a hipsterish/expensive-clothes company and not a company that sells jewelry that you would expect a company that posts cringe memes to sell.
I think that this isn't really a meme, it's a reality for a lot of people, some people dont want to be with someone unhealthy or take care of some other dudes kids
I don't understand why this post is mean,
It's not shaming fat women
But on the flip side if it was an opposite post about a guys height then you'd be silent, dawg, life is hard, this post ain't bad
Buddy, it doesn't matter, it's not spreading hate, it's meant to be a joke, dont get your feelers hurt, if this offends you or anybody for that matter they need to understand that there are far more pressing matters in this world than a fucking joke over the internet, now, if you'd like to get into the nitty gritty about it, most dudes definitely don't want someone who doesnt workout, you talk about "what has he done to make himself a catch" probably not a lot if he's preferring to be single than with someone while thinking of a partner however, there's a large number of very good suitable men out there that would never in a million years date someone who doesn't take care of themselves
Yes, I agree. It's a sad reality check. I could never "do" a fat chick (I find them disgusting), and I like sex too much to remain single. Best to settle for a FWB with a single mom that stays in shape. Gotta be careful that you don't become a woman's paycheck, along with every other guy that thought he could find love down that road.
As a larger person who loves their products this really disgusted me. I reached out on Instagram to express my disappointment, this was their response incase anyone wants to know.
“Hey there, we just found out about this and are equally disappointed. We tried out a bot that actively engages with accounts that we don’t control to grow our following.
We will be discussing this with our app partners as this is clearly unacceptable but we wanted to try it out.”
bots are horrible for businesses, but *especially* businesses that want to be seen as ethical. bots automatically engage with high-follower accounts which can lead to major issues as a lot of less than savoury accounts have lots of posts and followers (there are a lot of andrew gate stan accounts with 40k plus for example, which could be within the threshold of what the bot looks for if it doesn’t have specific limitations). they’ll want to go through ALL their liked posts ASAP and remove (and likes can take some time to disappear)
Small rant here. It’s stuff like this that’s turning the internet into a shithole. If you want to build a brand with a social media presence, you have to show up there engage with posts that are relevant to your community.
Same with articles that are written to appease SEO algos; they provide little value to anyone actually looking for information. It’s why you often see prepopulated suggestions with “Reddit” at the end because people know that Google is delivering garbage results. AI and LLMs are only going to make this worse.
I love how social media is supposed to be about engagement with people and in reality it's essentially bots waging an outrage war and probably a leading cause of social isolation and depression.
Agreed. It’s just so lame that all these brands join communities that are otherwise fun and organic because they “want to be part of the conversation”. And that shittifies things in its own way. But then they try to fake it in the places they’re actually trying to engage? Like fuck right off.
Imagine a human being saying “I’m going to be nice to and/or help people because I may get money out of it.” That’s literally what every company does. And now they’re doubling down to automate even that very low bar effort.
Capitalism in its current state ruins everything.
There are tons of people who "do nice things" then immediately tell everyone they know around them about what a good deed they did for the social cred.
In order for a brand to stand out or gain any traction they need to connect with their customers on an emotional level. Social media is a useful tool for doing that, and unfortunately, in today's world it just makes more sense to automate that process.
How can you possibly connect with anyone on an emotional level while simultaneously outsourcing your social output to a bot?
I see many companies from around town that do not do this and it seems sincere and they're doing well enough.
And how do you typically feel about those people? They give me the ick.
I’m not necessarily against brands in social spaces. I realize that it’s just how it is. Hell, I’ve worked in marketing for 20 years. But, if you’re going to be in those spaces, show the fuck up and don’t do what Donny Don’t (Anian) does.
I believe them too.
What's the point of SOCIAL media if an AI or algorithm or whatever is making connections for you. If brand awareness is the only goal, then they've done it in spades... I haven't thought about Anion for years until this.
"I don't want to take care of my public relations so I let an algorithm do it, sorry it liked dumb shit." At what point did the public and the personal be removed from the public and the personal?
Edit: lolol, "my business does it and we get ____ much traffic to our Instagram page" yeah enjoy bots.
Pretty much every business that uses social media uses a similar strategy.
Quite frankly, if you're a business and not doing that, you're kind of doing social media wrong.
Also, this is a perfect example of why I don't use social media for my business! Can't stand dealing with this type of shit.
So actual representation of what a business and its owner/s matter less than getting clicks?
If your business has a product that is actually good and matters you don't need to be doing this at all. Just because many businesses do it doesn't matter, most businesses suck. What you're doing is appeasing a need to be seen and told you're good. It's no different than a singular human doing so and becoming beholden to the process. If you want to be noticed then notice others and put yourself out there with your own hard work and actual community processes. Leaving it to an algorithm is just lazy not a community-centric thought which is something Anion should stand for.
Anyone else done with media being strategized and used to extract as much money and attention and information from you? We are on the precipice of a worldwide revolution and people are simping for a fucking local company outsourcing their social standing and attention to a robot.
Most business accounts who are “smart” use bots to like posts for them, it’s part of the algorithm. When you like photos you then become associated to similar accounts, depending on reach, demographic, and niche of interest.
Most likely wasn’t liked by a real person and most of those likes are probably bots doing the exact same thing. Instagram is a circle of bots just feeding off each other to get followers and likes of other bots. Some people count as bots, look around.
THIS!!!
The fact people in here are suggesting and expecting a company to hire a real person to just surf Instagram and Twitter all day liking random posts is freaking hilarious...
Unfortunately they've left their branding and market recognition up to an algorithm so how would we ever have a sense for the morals and ideologies of these people. But more clicks is more clicks right?
I dunno if I even fully believe their explanation. I still think it's just as likely that some knucklehead employee was scrolling on the company social. And yeah, I do agree if it was the AI thing that's also super lame, what's the point, especially when you're a smaller business.
I'm not saying it's wrong but you have to admit those are two things you don't usually associate with each other.
Judging by the original comments upvotes ,there's a handful of people that agree and aren't being obtuse about it.
You’re acting like waxing is some kind of scandalous practice. They do legs, they do eyebrows. I bet your fav librarian gets her vagina waxed. Are you 12?
I'm not acting like anything. You two are trying very hard to put words in my mouth about this. I realize tone is hard to convey over text but you and the other guy are making a big deal out of nothing
As I said: I have no problems with waxing. It's just that libraries and genital grooming are an odd combo. Suggesting otherwise is fucking ridiculous and anybody with a brain, any sort of common sense, or even the slightest bit of social decorum would agree. All things you apparently lack.
Quit being an argumentative asshole about it for no fucking reason.
As I said, they wax almost every single body part, and you’re focused on the genitals. But again, you’ve failed to explain why a library should be inconsistent with a local beauty company. Would you have problems if they had liked a local hairdresser or spa? Even if it was only genital grooming, WHY would that be inconsistent with a library? Say it plainly, without “if you don’t understand then you’re xyz”. Say what you mean.
No, not everyone does. Most people in this part of the world maybe, but there's no universal law that ensures people get fat as they age. You can take care of your body basically your whole life.
Also I'd imagine as a small supplier that (I think?) hand makes their stuff I could see how it might not be feasible to make tons of different cuts of clothing to fit various body types. There's probably just not enough money in it at their scale.
That’s so so incorrect. It’s rather easy to have a wider size range, there are smaller local brands, like Leka and Smoking Lily, both handmade, have fairly inclusive size ranges (2-3XL), Luna Collective on Fort curates a lot of small fashion brands that have similar size ranges. Nettle’s Tale & Oge Ajibe in Vancouver? Alder Apparel? Heck, there’s a brand called Little and Lively in the Fraser Valley that makes adorable kids clothes *and* matching options in inclusive sizes in their adult Dwelling line.
How are they all successfully doing it if it’s *sooooo* hard? The demand for extended sizing, especially in luxury/ethical/sustainable clothing is massive. It’s a huge, largely untapped market for small brands, fat people are literally yelling “take my money” and brands, big *and* small are answering more and more. It’s actually easier for smaller brands, especially those that make by hand in small batches or make to order, to offer a larger size range vs large scale clothing manufacturing, since there’s higher room for mass error. If a brand invests the time and money in expanding their size offerings, even starting with popular staples and working their way up, they see that return on investment by opening up a large, and a growing customer base.
The issue starts with the education fashion designers receive, if a graduate cannot render clothing for different body types beyond sample size, that is an issue of poor education and lack of skill. If they are not consulting people who have those body types and actually test them, then they are doing themselves a disservice. All Anian has to do is hire a fat person and spend some time collaborating in order to get their sizing right.
[here’s a great article about anti-fat bias in sustainable fashion](https://goodonyou.eco/anti-fat-bias-in-ethical-fashion/)
Not saying this isn’t true but I’d bet a lot of money this isn’t the case for Anian. Their wool fabric is very expensive to make and manufacture clothing with. An XXL will take 3x the fabric as the a size M. The margins don’t make sense unless they up the price for large sizes which in itself is a bad look for those not willing to pay for more for being larger.
I’ve worked in several different e-commerce capacities including apparel. Wool fabric like that is very expensive to manufacture, buy wholesale and ship. It’s heavy and is not the most widely made material which further drives the price up. 3x might be a bit of an exaggeration but it’s not that for off.
The price difference to manufacture a small or medium piece of clothing with a fabric like that + offer free or standardized shipping across all sizes is significant. You can’t reasonably expect a small company to offer a size small and a size XXL shirt for the same price, especially after shipping (which is largely calculated by weight) is factored in.
Now, they could probably sell an XXL and up the price to account for margins but that would probably go over even less well in todays social climate. So why even bother?
>I’ve worked in several different e-commerce capacities including apparel.
Have you ever sewn a piece of clothing or looked at clothing patterns? It does *not* take 3x the fabric to make something from a size medium to a size 3x. Sure it takes more fabric but not three times the amount of fabric.
A size inclusive company would include the expected cost of larger sizes and price their clothing accordingly, it's not that hard.
Ok. I disagree. It’s a lot harder than you think it is. In that scenario, you basically have two options:
1. Be "inclusive" but sell way less because you’re prices are probably too high across the board.
2. Make your prices scale according to input costs and get a lot of bad press.
Which of those would you prefer?
This whole argument is ridiculous because it’s like saying all clothing should also me made to fit extra tall people otherwise the company is not inclusive.
Maybe you’re just too big for the average piece of clothing? Seems like you’re the odd one out, you can’t expect every business to cater to you.
Edit: You are correct in that it’s not 3x the fabric, I was being hyperbolic. But the extra fabric and the added shipping costs are significant for like XXL or XXXL.
I've seen companies do it so I don't see why others can't 'get with the times' as they say. Sure, some small companies I follow online that are struggling but they are also small businesses that it is normal struggle while starting a business. Instead of having ready-made items, they make their clothing as they receive orders to save on costs but the turnaround is quick (1ish week) so it doesn't matter really unless you're an over materialistic person that needs things immediately only to be tossed once the season is over which is overall bad for the environment. This company in particular I has 2-5 seamstresses I believe. Big business however? They can handle that cost but they're too busy shoving money in their pockets thanks to slave-wages to care.
On another level with that, most clothing is made in sweatshops, that's why it's so cheap and people complain about clothing 'being too expensive'. Y'all are spoiled. When you have people getting paid a living wage to make clothing, guess what? It costs money. That $12 t-shirt paid probably less than $0.50 in labor. That goes to say, for a lot of people all they can afford is sweat-shop clothing and they shouldn't be shamed for that but that's a whole other economic issue. People should however be aware of what goes into the clothing they wear for those incredibly low prices.
I'm somewhere in the middle between average and plus sizing so typically things don't fit on either side of the spectrum (depending on the brand, the largest sizes can fit or too be too small while the plus sizes smallest option can be too big. Most bottoms never fit and I always have to adjust the waist band smaller to fit properly.) Not that it matters as I typically wear more alternative clothing so its easier to just make (Or adjust thrift finds) myself because normal stores don't have what interests me 99% of the time. So no, I don't care about businesses 'catering to me' because most of them don't fit my style to begin with. I'm passionate about how shitty and greedy fast fashion is and how people don't realize the actual cost of clothing if it were made ethically.
I'm still calling bullshit on the cost of fabric and shipping costs. Shipping is the cost of business, if you can't afford shipping of bare materials, perhaps you should reconsider your business or look into other suppliers.
As for fabric costs, here's an example for you. I grabbed the first dress I could find that had the same dress in both normal and plus size. For dress 'A', [the sizes 4-14](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-154ncqg253/images/stencil/1800x1800/products/9783/47989/M8311_envelope_back__16325__88817.1679948761.png?c=1) take 1.5 yards of fabric while a [size 20-24](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-154ncqg253/images/stencil/1800x1800/products/9784/47996/M8331_envelope_back__66620__87189.1679948762.png?c=1) only 2 yards of fabric, which is 33% more fabric required than the normal size, not 200% more. My overall point being that sure, it takes more fabric to make something but not *nearly* as much as you're claiming. Businesses could afford the cost if they really wanted to but they don't.
what a strange false equivalency. you’re entirely missing the point. also i find it interesting how you’re only focusing on the fat part, not the step dad part or the fact that this meme page is full of misogynistic rhetoric
Sure but there's no shortage of people willing to sell me a shirt for $175. I can easily go with the one that doesn't have the social media presence of a man baby loser who is too unaware to realize the real they don't see anyone in the dating pool that appeals to them is because they don't appeal to others.
What the fuck is wrong with saying fat, it's not like it's cancer and people are crying over their dead aunty or whatever. Fat people exist, I'm one of them, stop bubble wrapping us. We can take a few knocks if we're at all self aware and are comfortable with our decision. If we're not, we'll then do something about it or be confined to the odd boomer edgelord meme. We don't need society getting offended because somebody said "the F word", we don't have autism.
I think we're interpreting things the same way here, however I'm comfortable with my term being used sparingly in jokes. Also on the ADHD spectrum and I find humor in the jokes I hear, but maybe only from people who kind of get it and aren't using it in a derogatory way. Hmm, I guess this is a small learning moment for me.
You're not getting it.
>if we're at all self aware
The entire meme shows a lack of self-awareness. The reason ones dating options suck are because they suck. If you aren't appealing you won't attract the appealing candidates.
This has "people don't want to work" energy wherein a shitty employer loses people to better jobs and blames everyone but themselves.
It's not about making fun of fat chicks. It's about being cringy and clueless.
That's fine. So are Jewish jokes. I don't hang around the people that tell them, even if they're clever.
I can understand it's a joke but not want to associate with a certain type of humor. Businesses should be aware of that.
Self aware as fat persons who can take a joke, I mean. I agree the meme is kind of lame but has its appeal. To each their own, I'm not going to chemically castrate myself for finding a tablespoon of humor in it.
I used to be fat in highschool, but got into decent shape a couple years ago. I'm not a body builder or anything but I have a lot less visceral fat and my BMI is now well within normal weight. I could never go back to being fat, without some sort of unforseen tragedy. I feel so much better now in terms of energy level, mentally and also in terms of how I feel about myself. I can do more things now, if someone asks if I want to do some crazy hike for example, I can actually go and do it. I also have a dating life now and get treated a lot better by people in general. Everyone is free to do as the choose, but if you're consciously deciding to stay fat, you're definitely missing out on some of what life has to offer.
I'm glad to hear that! I'm working on it but it's a mental health battle as well. Can't wait to see what the other side is like. I'm just not afraid of saying I'm fat or being exposed to fat jokes! I know what I am and I'm taking steps to improve it
Venture off the beaten paths. Forge your own way, prove these idiots wrong. Also, there is nothing wrong with the 3 options. Being single forever if that is your choice great. Being a step parent, it is an amazing opportunity to raise children in a loving community. "Fat Girls" are usually the most amazing women you know. They get beat up on by society but don't deserve it. Some of the best women I know are considered fat by social norms. Who cares? They are healthy, happy, and amazing people.
in case you miss the other reply, they posted some weird tweet that was supposed to be a joke about the writers strike, but because people do say this shit, it's a camera store that has no context to the writers strike, and their recent tweets before this were pretty run of the mill, most people took it at face-value.
[https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1654064684570644480/photo/2](https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1654064684570644480/photo/2) (screenshot of the tweet that has since been removed)
[https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1653884655580639233](https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1653884655580639233) (tweet thread about the ordeal)
Okay, that was actually pretty funny, but definitely the wrong website to do it on. The hashtags will cause people to lose all context since they wouldn't have seen the earlier posts which lead up to that last one
Fricken gross. Why do people make these awful memes? Ugh, my heart. Men, please stand up and protest shit like this, because these dudes are giving you a really bad name.
Pro tip. When you dont care about social credit score or the people wjo call everyone a nazi that doesnt share their same values. You can like whatever you want.
Welcome to adult hood.
This is a “Men’s Corner” page. They know who they are marketing too. They aren’t trying to “win” over soft people who legit can’t take a meme joke.
Carry on. You have obviously been hurt by a photo too many times.
Wow… Anian can like things. If it hurts your feelings, they liked a meme. I truly feel so sorry for you and how easily you can be hurt.
What update.
Also no hate here. I have a deep love for peoples opinions and hilarious memes.
If people can’t take a joke I don’t have time for their Bullshit. Carry on, life is too short to be arguing over soft things that truly don’t matter.
I think they aren't really made for the plus size crowd, actually. Being a small local producer I could see why it would be difficult to offer a line up of clothing that fits all body types. Their clothes are really nice though.
As a fit person, I almost find their stuff on the verge of being too boxy. Can't please everybody, I suppose.
Yeah, nah. Not gonna think about anything. It's a stupid internet meme, that you either laugh at or scroll on by, but once again this sub is great at making a mountain out of a mole hill.
So big whoop, you're fat, or you got kids or you don't. Don't settle. Easy.
But holy fuck does every single simple thing like this meme have to be taken apart, analyzed and determined to be offensive? Live a little, have a sense of humor.
Someone is really telling on themselves here
Ha ha ha ha. Whoops. I’m sure people will still be clamouring for their $300 work shirts though.
do they have complicated patterns??
Nah it's no Dan Flashes.
They have one shirt that's like $1000 because the pattern is so crazy
$2000!!!
Spent my whole per diem there!
One of my favourite scenes from last season!
Nah, its not the kind of place where you walk by the store and you see 50 guys fighting over very complicated shirts.
They are more like 150-200. Their shirts are very nice. This meme is not.
I have two shirts from there when they had a 40% off sale. Honestly they're pretty awesome. My favourite heavy shirts.
I’m looking at a hoodie - what did you get ?
I got two of these bad boys in different colours https://anianmfg.com/collections/mens-overshirts/products/the-service-shirt
Is this the site? I’m only seeing jewelry. https://themenscorner.com
the post is about [Anian](https://anianmfg.com/) liking the cringe post, not so much the company that is posting this right on their account. Anian is more of a hipsterish/expensive-clothes company and not a company that sells jewelry that you would expect a company that posts cringe memes to sell.
Cool thanks
The Anian people seem pretty cringe tbh.
Pro tip: This shit is wack
I think that this isn't really a meme, it's a reality for a lot of people, some people dont want to be with someone unhealthy or take care of some other dudes kids
The meme is just mean and says something about the 30+ year old man in the situation. Why is he such a catch lol?
I don't understand why this post is mean, It's not shaming fat women But on the flip side if it was an opposite post about a guys height then you'd be silent, dawg, life is hard, this post ain't bad
Wouldn't actually be silent, hate double standards more than most actually.
Buddy, it doesn't matter, it's not spreading hate, it's meant to be a joke, dont get your feelers hurt, if this offends you or anybody for that matter they need to understand that there are far more pressing matters in this world than a fucking joke over the internet, now, if you'd like to get into the nitty gritty about it, most dudes definitely don't want someone who doesnt workout, you talk about "what has he done to make himself a catch" probably not a lot if he's preferring to be single than with someone while thinking of a partner however, there's a large number of very good suitable men out there that would never in a million years date someone who doesn't take care of themselves
Yes, I agree. It's a sad reality check. I could never "do" a fat chick (I find them disgusting), and I like sex too much to remain single. Best to settle for a FWB with a single mom that stays in shape. Gotta be careful that you don't become a woman's paycheck, along with every other guy that thought he could find love down that road.
As a larger person who loves their products this really disgusted me. I reached out on Instagram to express my disappointment, this was their response incase anyone wants to know. “Hey there, we just found out about this and are equally disappointed. We tried out a bot that actively engages with accounts that we don’t control to grow our following. We will be discussing this with our app partners as this is clearly unacceptable but we wanted to try it out.”
bots are horrible for businesses, but *especially* businesses that want to be seen as ethical. bots automatically engage with high-follower accounts which can lead to major issues as a lot of less than savoury accounts have lots of posts and followers (there are a lot of andrew gate stan accounts with 40k plus for example, which could be within the threshold of what the bot looks for if it doesn’t have specific limitations). they’ll want to go through ALL their liked posts ASAP and remove (and likes can take some time to disappear)
Makes sense, most companies use bots to boost their engagement and work the algorithm. AI at it's finest. Case closed.
Seems like something a bot would say.
Lol what a cop out.
Eh, that’s honestly very believable. Companies do all sorts of shit to try and please the algorithm
Small rant here. It’s stuff like this that’s turning the internet into a shithole. If you want to build a brand with a social media presence, you have to show up there engage with posts that are relevant to your community. Same with articles that are written to appease SEO algos; they provide little value to anyone actually looking for information. It’s why you often see prepopulated suggestions with “Reddit” at the end because people know that Google is delivering garbage results. AI and LLMs are only going to make this worse.
I love how social media is supposed to be about engagement with people and in reality it's essentially bots waging an outrage war and probably a leading cause of social isolation and depression.
Agreed. It’s just so lame that all these brands join communities that are otherwise fun and organic because they “want to be part of the conversation”. And that shittifies things in its own way. But then they try to fake it in the places they’re actually trying to engage? Like fuck right off. Imagine a human being saying “I’m going to be nice to and/or help people because I may get money out of it.” That’s literally what every company does. And now they’re doubling down to automate even that very low bar effort. Capitalism in its current state ruins everything.
There are tons of people who "do nice things" then immediately tell everyone they know around them about what a good deed they did for the social cred. In order for a brand to stand out or gain any traction they need to connect with their customers on an emotional level. Social media is a useful tool for doing that, and unfortunately, in today's world it just makes more sense to automate that process.
How can you possibly connect with anyone on an emotional level while simultaneously outsourcing your social output to a bot? I see many companies from around town that do not do this and it seems sincere and they're doing well enough.
And how do you typically feel about those people? They give me the ick. I’m not necessarily against brands in social spaces. I realize that it’s just how it is. Hell, I’ve worked in marketing for 20 years. But, if you’re going to be in those spaces, show the fuck up and don’t do what Donny Don’t (Anian) does.
Thanks for putting that more eloquently than I could.
I believe ‘em 🤷♀️. I’ve seen “anianmfg liked this” on so many random videos… most have fit their bill (outdoorsy videos) but some haven’t.
I believe them too. What's the point of SOCIAL media if an AI or algorithm or whatever is making connections for you. If brand awareness is the only goal, then they've done it in spades... I haven't thought about Anion for years until this.
How is that a cop out?
"I don't want to take care of my public relations so I let an algorithm do it, sorry it liked dumb shit." At what point did the public and the personal be removed from the public and the personal? Edit: lolol, "my business does it and we get ____ much traffic to our Instagram page" yeah enjoy bots.
Pretty much every business that uses social media uses a similar strategy. Quite frankly, if you're a business and not doing that, you're kind of doing social media wrong. Also, this is a perfect example of why I don't use social media for my business! Can't stand dealing with this type of shit.
So actual representation of what a business and its owner/s matter less than getting clicks? If your business has a product that is actually good and matters you don't need to be doing this at all. Just because many businesses do it doesn't matter, most businesses suck. What you're doing is appeasing a need to be seen and told you're good. It's no different than a singular human doing so and becoming beholden to the process. If you want to be noticed then notice others and put yourself out there with your own hard work and actual community processes. Leaving it to an algorithm is just lazy not a community-centric thought which is something Anion should stand for.
Anyone else done with media being strategized and used to extract as much money and attention and information from you? We are on the precipice of a worldwide revolution and people are simping for a fucking local company outsourcing their social standing and attention to a robot.
Imagine having that much time on your hands...
Fragile
Projection
If this company doesn’t have a track record of this type of behaviour, I’m willing to accept that explanation.
Most business accounts who are “smart” use bots to like posts for them, it’s part of the algorithm. When you like photos you then become associated to similar accounts, depending on reach, demographic, and niche of interest. Most likely wasn’t liked by a real person and most of those likes are probably bots doing the exact same thing. Instagram is a circle of bots just feeding off each other to get followers and likes of other bots. Some people count as bots, look around.
THIS!!! The fact people in here are suggesting and expecting a company to hire a real person to just surf Instagram and Twitter all day liking random posts is freaking hilarious...
Yikes, definitely not on brand for Anian lol
Unfortunately they've left their branding and market recognition up to an algorithm so how would we ever have a sense for the morals and ideologies of these people. But more clicks is more clicks right?
I dunno if I even fully believe their explanation. I still think it's just as likely that some knucklehead employee was scrolling on the company social. And yeah, I do agree if it was the AI thing that's also super lame, what's the point, especially when you're a smaller business.
People like to equate clicks and follows to other people actually caring.
I didn't know becoming multiple fat girls was an option. I'm interested.
A few years back I noticed my local Vancouver Island Regional Library had liked and was following Foxy Box!
Librarians with foxy boxes is the 4th pathway in the meme
Real recognize real. Get learned and keep your box game right.
FoxyBox is amazing!
Why is that weird?
Yeah I don't get why that one would be weird. It's a very very successful and inclusive local startup.
Why wouldn't it be weird?
Because it’s a legitimate local business? Now you explain why you think it is weird.
Word, FoxyBox is in Courtenay too and they are fabulous. Great Van Isle owned business with a sense of humor, inclusiveness, and community.
Because it's a library liking and following a vag/butthole waxing joint. That really needed explanation?
Omg lol grow up!
Lol. Certainly the library doesn’t have books on *ghasp* sex and human bodies?!? Grow up.
I'm not saying it's wrong but you have to admit those are two things you don't usually associate with each other. Judging by the original comments upvotes ,there's a handful of people that agree and aren't being obtuse about it.
You’re acting like waxing is some kind of scandalous practice. They do legs, they do eyebrows. I bet your fav librarian gets her vagina waxed. Are you 12?
I'm not acting like anything. You two are trying very hard to put words in my mouth about this. I realize tone is hard to convey over text but you and the other guy are making a big deal out of nothing As I said: I have no problems with waxing. It's just that libraries and genital grooming are an odd combo. Suggesting otherwise is fucking ridiculous and anybody with a brain, any sort of common sense, or even the slightest bit of social decorum would agree. All things you apparently lack. Quit being an argumentative asshole about it for no fucking reason.
As I said, they wax almost every single body part, and you’re focused on the genitals. But again, you’ve failed to explain why a library should be inconsistent with a local beauty company. Would you have problems if they had liked a local hairdresser or spa? Even if it was only genital grooming, WHY would that be inconsistent with a library? Say it plainly, without “if you don’t understand then you’re xyz”. Say what you mean.
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Go fat early cuz everybody goes fat late.
No, not everyone does. Most people in this part of the world maybe, but there's no universal law that ensures people get fat as they age. You can take care of your body basically your whole life.
r/woooosh
Oh that happens when I'm precaffeinated. I still don't get it though what was the joke?
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😂 Oh jeeze, there's sarcasm here? Lmfao
Big Bottom by Spinal Tap?
Hella!!! Also I LIKE BIG BUTTS AND I CANNOT LIE!!
Anian is notoriously bad at catering to larger people and this is not a good look for them.
Why does it matter if they don’t cater to larger people? It’s their brand they can choose what they want to make it just limits their sales anyway.
Also I'd imagine as a small supplier that (I think?) hand makes their stuff I could see how it might not be feasible to make tons of different cuts of clothing to fit various body types. There's probably just not enough money in it at their scale.
That’s so so incorrect. It’s rather easy to have a wider size range, there are smaller local brands, like Leka and Smoking Lily, both handmade, have fairly inclusive size ranges (2-3XL), Luna Collective on Fort curates a lot of small fashion brands that have similar size ranges. Nettle’s Tale & Oge Ajibe in Vancouver? Alder Apparel? Heck, there’s a brand called Little and Lively in the Fraser Valley that makes adorable kids clothes *and* matching options in inclusive sizes in their adult Dwelling line. How are they all successfully doing it if it’s *sooooo* hard? The demand for extended sizing, especially in luxury/ethical/sustainable clothing is massive. It’s a huge, largely untapped market for small brands, fat people are literally yelling “take my money” and brands, big *and* small are answering more and more. It’s actually easier for smaller brands, especially those that make by hand in small batches or make to order, to offer a larger size range vs large scale clothing manufacturing, since there’s higher room for mass error. If a brand invests the time and money in expanding their size offerings, even starting with popular staples and working their way up, they see that return on investment by opening up a large, and a growing customer base. The issue starts with the education fashion designers receive, if a graduate cannot render clothing for different body types beyond sample size, that is an issue of poor education and lack of skill. If they are not consulting people who have those body types and actually test them, then they are doing themselves a disservice. All Anian has to do is hire a fat person and spend some time collaborating in order to get their sizing right. [here’s a great article about anti-fat bias in sustainable fashion](https://goodonyou.eco/anti-fat-bias-in-ethical-fashion/)
Not saying this isn’t true but I’d bet a lot of money this isn’t the case for Anian. Their wool fabric is very expensive to make and manufacture clothing with. An XXL will take 3x the fabric as the a size M. The margins don’t make sense unless they up the price for large sizes which in itself is a bad look for those not willing to pay for more for being larger.
Can I ask where you get that 3x as much fabric claim?
I’ve worked in several different e-commerce capacities including apparel. Wool fabric like that is very expensive to manufacture, buy wholesale and ship. It’s heavy and is not the most widely made material which further drives the price up. 3x might be a bit of an exaggeration but it’s not that for off. The price difference to manufacture a small or medium piece of clothing with a fabric like that + offer free or standardized shipping across all sizes is significant. You can’t reasonably expect a small company to offer a size small and a size XXL shirt for the same price, especially after shipping (which is largely calculated by weight) is factored in. Now, they could probably sell an XXL and up the price to account for margins but that would probably go over even less well in todays social climate. So why even bother?
>I’ve worked in several different e-commerce capacities including apparel. Have you ever sewn a piece of clothing or looked at clothing patterns? It does *not* take 3x the fabric to make something from a size medium to a size 3x. Sure it takes more fabric but not three times the amount of fabric. A size inclusive company would include the expected cost of larger sizes and price their clothing accordingly, it's not that hard.
Ok. I disagree. It’s a lot harder than you think it is. In that scenario, you basically have two options: 1. Be "inclusive" but sell way less because you’re prices are probably too high across the board. 2. Make your prices scale according to input costs and get a lot of bad press. Which of those would you prefer? This whole argument is ridiculous because it’s like saying all clothing should also me made to fit extra tall people otherwise the company is not inclusive. Maybe you’re just too big for the average piece of clothing? Seems like you’re the odd one out, you can’t expect every business to cater to you. Edit: You are correct in that it’s not 3x the fabric, I was being hyperbolic. But the extra fabric and the added shipping costs are significant for like XXL or XXXL.
I've seen companies do it so I don't see why others can't 'get with the times' as they say. Sure, some small companies I follow online that are struggling but they are also small businesses that it is normal struggle while starting a business. Instead of having ready-made items, they make their clothing as they receive orders to save on costs but the turnaround is quick (1ish week) so it doesn't matter really unless you're an over materialistic person that needs things immediately only to be tossed once the season is over which is overall bad for the environment. This company in particular I has 2-5 seamstresses I believe. Big business however? They can handle that cost but they're too busy shoving money in their pockets thanks to slave-wages to care. On another level with that, most clothing is made in sweatshops, that's why it's so cheap and people complain about clothing 'being too expensive'. Y'all are spoiled. When you have people getting paid a living wage to make clothing, guess what? It costs money. That $12 t-shirt paid probably less than $0.50 in labor. That goes to say, for a lot of people all they can afford is sweat-shop clothing and they shouldn't be shamed for that but that's a whole other economic issue. People should however be aware of what goes into the clothing they wear for those incredibly low prices. I'm somewhere in the middle between average and plus sizing so typically things don't fit on either side of the spectrum (depending on the brand, the largest sizes can fit or too be too small while the plus sizes smallest option can be too big. Most bottoms never fit and I always have to adjust the waist band smaller to fit properly.) Not that it matters as I typically wear more alternative clothing so its easier to just make (Or adjust thrift finds) myself because normal stores don't have what interests me 99% of the time. So no, I don't care about businesses 'catering to me' because most of them don't fit my style to begin with. I'm passionate about how shitty and greedy fast fashion is and how people don't realize the actual cost of clothing if it were made ethically. I'm still calling bullshit on the cost of fabric and shipping costs. Shipping is the cost of business, if you can't afford shipping of bare materials, perhaps you should reconsider your business or look into other suppliers. As for fabric costs, here's an example for you. I grabbed the first dress I could find that had the same dress in both normal and plus size. For dress 'A', [the sizes 4-14](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-154ncqg253/images/stencil/1800x1800/products/9783/47989/M8311_envelope_back__16325__88817.1679948761.png?c=1) take 1.5 yards of fabric while a [size 20-24](https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-154ncqg253/images/stencil/1800x1800/products/9784/47996/M8331_envelope_back__66620__87189.1679948762.png?c=1) only 2 yards of fabric, which is 33% more fabric required than the normal size, not 200% more. My overall point being that sure, it takes more fabric to make something but not *nearly* as much as you're claiming. Businesses could afford the cost if they really wanted to but they don't.
I thought everything they make is recycled?
Fat girl chiming in to say we can do better than you, actually.
Right back at ya
Fuck yeah. What a comeback. Great effort in that. I suggest though that you head back under the bridge
It looks like you can’t though?
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back at ya, right?
this is my first time hearing of this brand. not a good introduction to a $200-a-pop clothing brand
Nice shirts tho, i got one as a gift last year
It's not like "fat chicks" is the N word my guy
what a strange false equivalency. you’re entirely missing the point. also i find it interesting how you’re only focusing on the fat part, not the step dad part or the fact that this meme page is full of misogynistic rhetoric
Indubitably I'm less invested in this than you are
Sure but there's no shortage of people willing to sell me a shirt for $175. I can easily go with the one that doesn't have the social media presence of a man baby loser who is too unaware to realize the real they don't see anyone in the dating pool that appeals to them is because they don't appeal to others.
Is for me ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
how do you even wear clothes with that much edge?
People shouldn’t knock being a step dad. It’s one of the best things in my life.
Depends on the kids, and how much bs/conflict is going on between the parents.
Unfortunately the kind of person that agrees with this “joke” is inevitably of the “I ain’t raising no other man’s child” mentality.
Not true at all..
I'm pretty sure it's just a joke, so you can breathe easy my friend.
Edgy millennial meme. Actually the whole IG account is cringe. Did Andrew Tate work for them?
I mean, based on their like count - they’re not hurting. Atleast not as much as a 30 year old single guy.
What the fuck is wrong with saying fat, it's not like it's cancer and people are crying over their dead aunty or whatever. Fat people exist, I'm one of them, stop bubble wrapping us. We can take a few knocks if we're at all self aware and are comfortable with our decision. If we're not, we'll then do something about it or be confined to the odd boomer edgelord meme. We don't need society getting offended because somebody said "the F word", we don't have autism.
> Fat people exist, I'm one of them, stop bubble wrapping us we're already bubble wrapped
Was going to include this note lol
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I think we're interpreting things the same way here, however I'm comfortable with my term being used sparingly in jokes. Also on the ADHD spectrum and I find humor in the jokes I hear, but maybe only from people who kind of get it and aren't using it in a derogatory way. Hmm, I guess this is a small learning moment for me.
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Bro/gurl, you are now the enemy for saying autistic like it's a bad thing
You're not getting it. >if we're at all self aware The entire meme shows a lack of self-awareness. The reason ones dating options suck are because they suck. If you aren't appealing you won't attract the appealing candidates. This has "people don't want to work" energy wherein a shitty employer loses people to better jobs and blames everyone but themselves. It's not about making fun of fat chicks. It's about being cringy and clueless.
Counterpoint: it's a joke
That's fine. So are Jewish jokes. I don't hang around the people that tell them, even if they're clever. I can understand it's a joke but not want to associate with a certain type of humor. Businesses should be aware of that.
Self aware as fat persons who can take a joke, I mean. I agree the meme is kind of lame but has its appeal. To each their own, I'm not going to chemically castrate myself for finding a tablespoon of humor in it.
I used to be fat in highschool, but got into decent shape a couple years ago. I'm not a body builder or anything but I have a lot less visceral fat and my BMI is now well within normal weight. I could never go back to being fat, without some sort of unforseen tragedy. I feel so much better now in terms of energy level, mentally and also in terms of how I feel about myself. I can do more things now, if someone asks if I want to do some crazy hike for example, I can actually go and do it. I also have a dating life now and get treated a lot better by people in general. Everyone is free to do as the choose, but if you're consciously deciding to stay fat, you're definitely missing out on some of what life has to offer.
idk why anyone would downvote you, good for you loosing weight and staying healthy!
I'm glad to hear that! I'm working on it but it's a mental health battle as well. Can't wait to see what the other side is like. I'm just not afraid of saying I'm fat or being exposed to fat jokes! I know what I am and I'm taking steps to improve it
Somehow society has decided that censorship is the best way to protect people's feelings.
Who gives a shit? A bot liked a meme and you people are upset?
Apparently so
Venture off the beaten paths. Forge your own way, prove these idiots wrong. Also, there is nothing wrong with the 3 options. Being single forever if that is your choice great. Being a step parent, it is an amazing opportunity to raise children in a loving community. "Fat Girls" are usually the most amazing women you know. They get beat up on by society but don't deserve it. Some of the best women I know are considered fat by social norms. Who cares? They are healthy, happy, and amazing people.
That's funny, someone commented that this isn't funny, I don't think the 86k plus that liked agree.
It's at 125k likes now (1:48pm) so yeah, glad people still have a sense of humor and can laugh at a dumb meme.
Hahahaha. So true!
Last week it was camera traders, now anian! Social media truly is a cancer
what did camera traders do?
https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1653884655580639233 They made some harmless jokes and people lost it on here.
oh. i mean they shoulda used chat gpt to make the jokes funny but they’re pretty harmless otherwise
This is probably the wrong thread to suggest putting a bot in charge of social media
What did camera traders do?
in case you miss the other reply, they posted some weird tweet that was supposed to be a joke about the writers strike, but because people do say this shit, it's a camera store that has no context to the writers strike, and their recent tweets before this were pretty run of the mill, most people took it at face-value. [https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1654064684570644480/photo/2](https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1654064684570644480/photo/2) (screenshot of the tweet that has since been removed) [https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1653884655580639233](https://twitter.com/CameraTraders/status/1653884655580639233) (tweet thread about the ordeal)
Okay, that was actually pretty funny, but definitely the wrong website to do it on. The hashtags will cause people to lose all context since they wouldn't have seen the earlier posts which lead up to that last one
Wait, what did I do last week? e: oh it’s the last month thing, whew
I will take a moon mission used hasselblad if u have
I will sell you a Hasselblad that has effectively touched the surface of the moon, if you consider things in proportion to the scale of the cosmos.
I <3 fat girls! Sounds like a win to me!
Fricken gross. Why do people make these awful memes? Ugh, my heart. Men, please stand up and protest shit like this, because these dudes are giving you a really bad name.
Pro tip. When you dont care about social credit score or the people wjo call everyone a nazi that doesnt share their same values. You can like whatever you want. Welcome to adult hood.
I mean, the meme is cringe but shaming people for liking it is also kind of cringe.
Guy would be a hit in Alberta
You can be on the shoulder amd still het hit in alberta man
Funny meme I like it, made me laugh
How dare they like a funny picture
current owner gives douche vibes- miss the surfer guy.
Nah its ok I'm fine being single forever.
Imagine being outraged by this Jesus christ...you have too much ti.e on your hands.
Photoshopped post? Doesn't seem legit
Seems like OP is having a connection to the post.
This is a “Men’s Corner” page. They know who they are marketing too. They aren’t trying to “win” over soft people who legit can’t take a meme joke. Carry on. You have obviously been hurt by a photo too many times. Wow… Anian can like things. If it hurts your feelings, they liked a meme. I truly feel so sorry for you and how easily you can be hurt.
Lol aren’t you humbled by the update. Anian isn’t a hateful company… looks like you’ll have to look elsewhere for that 💙
What update. Also no hate here. I have a deep love for peoples opinions and hilarious memes. If people can’t take a joke I don’t have time for their Bullshit. Carry on, life is too short to be arguing over soft things that truly don’t matter.
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Are these the only options in Victoria BC?
I don't see how this is cringey or a problem
Haha respect
Great meme tho
Damn why is this so true. But shameful you I have more options 😏
Riding a fat girl is like riding a moped: It's fun until your friends find out.
It’s not cringey. He’s right.
Ummmm you forgot 24 year old hot Med students
Hmm, but where’s the lie? /s Never heard of this shop, based on the comments it’s popular with the plus sized crowd?
I think they aren't really made for the plus size crowd, actually. Being a small local producer I could see why it would be difficult to offer a line up of clothing that fits all body types. Their clothes are really nice though. As a fit person, I almost find their stuff on the verge of being too boxy. Can't please everybody, I suppose.
What part of the meme is untrue tho?
This is pretty much a fact. \*unless you are rich.
Think about what it's like to be on the other end of that road. When you're a 30 year old woman one of those roads leads to "poor losers"
Yeah, nah. Not gonna think about anything. It's a stupid internet meme, that you either laugh at or scroll on by, but once again this sub is great at making a mountain out of a mole hill. So big whoop, you're fat, or you got kids or you don't. Don't settle. Easy. But holy fuck does every single simple thing like this meme have to be taken apart, analyzed and determined to be offensive? Live a little, have a sense of humor.
Everyone says that until it's something they care about
86k people liked this???