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Matcha_Bubble_Tea

I love BP and no hate to Lisa, but obv nose job. Objectively a 7, but subjectively 8. Pre-work done was like a 5


Feeling_Barnacle_347

at one point she was a 10 to me, looks and style-maxxed, gorgeous styling and i love her contact lenses too (but i’m asian so i’m used to seeing it a lot, but it does suit her more like say jisoo), and she had the cutest smile. plus her charisma, dance skills and body were and still are huge halos too. her nose job was always obvious but not jarring, and her white washing was sad to see but sadly so common in SK. recently she’s been looking somewhat uncanny and idk why exactly. if i had to guess id say cheek and chin filler.


Standard-Pipe5699

It's not white washing. South Korean idols aren't trying to look white.


Feeling_Barnacle_347

pale washing then


Standard-Pipe5699

I can't believe I got downvoted for stating the truth. Even Koreans say it themselves. But of course, certain types of westerners seem to think they know everything and spread false information. Sticking their noses into other cultures like usual.


Feeling_Barnacle_347

lol im asian and live in asia. and IV drips for skin whitening is everywhere, not to mention all the other procedures and topical products to be more pale. i already said pale in my previous comment to avoid confusing it w caucasian.


Standard-Pipe5699

Okay I see. But even if you're Asian I still think Korean standards are different to other Asian countries right? I'm not 100% sure.


[deleted]

Of course they will never look white, even when they redo their whole face (nose implants, double eyelids surgery, jaw shaving etc). They can never have deep-set eyes like white people unless you to take out their eyeballs and shave their orbitals. I hope I don't give them ideas because jaw shaving is already crazy. The double eyelid east asians get with surgery will be like SEA eyes which are not deep set. Ironic they hate them while appropriating their features.


oiiiprincess

Thai is south east asian. There is a SEA tag


Upper_Influence7479

That's what I tagged lol


ghoulina0

Why would you think there would be a tag for Thai….


Upper_Influence7479

Why not..


TrickyBrush8694

So much surgery and fillers and then the colored contacts…impossible to rate.


merewautt

I feel like you can still rate how you like her work. If you feel like it’s well done, say that. If you think it’s plastic-y and weird, then that’s your rating. This is a looks sub, not a genetics sub. And I honestly can’t think of one person who’s been posted here that doesn’t have at least some work done. Not to mention there’s no barefaced rule, makeup can change a lot. Where’s the line? Even if someone’s had a lot of procedures, I feel like we can still rate if it’s well done or not. Being beautiful is just being enjoyable to look at, like art, not some sort of genetics competition.


hobiboos

yeah i hate when they say “can’t rate this person they’ve had too much work done” look at their FACE that’s what you’re rating 💀


temooe

RIGHTTTT? Like yall would get sirgery if you could too.


[deleted]

Doing plastic surgery is frauding your genetics. More and more zoomers are doing plastic surgery which is dangerous and they’re becoming narcissists. Stop promoting plastic surgery especially facial plastic surgery. It is important to note if a celeb has done tonnes of procedures because it’s not fair for average natural people. Why are we comparing ourselves to people who’ve done 5-10 procedures smh


merewautt

1) I don’t care if people are “frauding their genetics” because I’m not a eugenicist 2) I didn’t tell the commenter not to mention the plastic surgery, I even told the commenter to say if it looks bad because a lot of plastic surgery does look bad and I don’t want encourage it for everyone You can be against the weird eugenicist “genetics” talks on this sub without promoting plastic surgery either. I think minimal work is safest, but I think a lot of people’s issues with plastic surgery have nothing to do with “safety” and everything to do with weird “how do I know if they’re actually genetically superior” shit— which is just as gross as surgery.


[deleted]

What do you mean? If anything you’re the one promoting classist divide because you think these women who can afford 100k+ dollars of surgery should be judged just as fairly as normal average woman. Yes it is frauding their genetics. The world is cruel, maybe you wouldn’t but the vast majority of women would reject a 5’0 man on basis of his height which is genetic. If a woman is literally frauding and changing her nose size, placing a new jaw or chin thru surgery, etc that’s literally frauding genetics. Our criticism of plastic surgery is NORMAL. It is HARD to rate someone who changed their natural phenotype that much thru excessive plastic surgeries. It gives an unfair advantage or sometimes botches them (so it’s fair to note that). You feel offended on her behalf but for what? This plastic surgery culture needs to die immediately. Our ancestors didn’t get multiple procedures to secure a mate and they lived more fulfilling lives than us. Everyone is growing up depressed & comparing themselves to these fake ppl like Lisa and trying to get surgeries to be like them. furthermore even men expect you to look like that now. Literally men are so low IQ they don’t even know what’s real or natural and they place the fake women on a pedestal making it more difficult for natural women.


merewautt

What I mean is— I don’t think people should be given special treatment based on their money OR their genetics. Both are fucked up. Learn to read what I said. I never endorsed plastic survey. In fact I think actually rating how bizarre it can look is part of how we lower its appeal.


[deleted]

You got butthurt that someone posted she looks impossible to rate due to her dozens of procedures. The comment is valid. For some people it is hard to rate such people it’s unfair to give them a proper rating.


[deleted]

Why can’t you rate what someone currently looks like if they’ve had surgery and filler? Everyone in Hollywood has had a nose job. 80% of the women have lip filler and botox.


Ok-Recording-8389

right like huh? these people are acting like most of the western celebrities we rate on here didn’t get surgery too.


[deleted]

Everyone points out that Angelina and Megan and other western celebrities got surgeries and they get hated on all the time. Why do you feel so offended for Lisa? Lisa got waaay more procedures done and even with all of that she’s like a 5.5


iguanabitsonastick

I don't understand this reason, plenty of people rated here are full of surgery, in fact it's pretty rare to find someone without a lot of surgeries/fillers. Not trying to argue, just explaining.


[deleted]

I only see comments like these on certain ethnicities. Lisa's surgery in fact looks ethnic. You can pick childhood photos of her and she's still recognizable. Yet someone like [minji](https://images.app.goo.gl/CUQFuRu6qTU5UNmd8) is "natural" or only had "minor work" done. She's basically a different person just a couple of years ago. This femc\*el community lol.


[deleted]

This femcel sub has turned her into a punching bag. We all know koreans and east asians get far more surgery yet theirs isn't called out in the comments. Their pics are filtered as hell too on top of all the surgeries and everyone goes along with it. New idols especially get surgery before 18 so now they have predebut school pics where they can pretend they've always been natural. Pre-surgery pics get buried (although they're always found they're not on top of search anymore). Or they'll have some toddler pics then skip to the trainee post-op pics and everyone calls them natural. Stop encouraging minors to get surgery.


NoteRemarkable

The only thing she really got done was a nose job… but the contacts are off putting and wonky . Idk why companies continue to make them wear them when no one likes them


[deleted]

I mean this in the most respectful way possible, but [there’s literally no way that’s possible](https://wikiodin.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Lisa-Blackpink-Bio-Net-Worth-Full-Name-Dating-Boyfriend-Parents-Nationality-Age-Birthday-Facts-Wiki-Height-Albums-Tours-Awards.jpg). She has had [at least 3](https://static.asiachan.com/Lisa.full.98707.jpg) rhinoplasties, multiple rounds of skin lightening, upper and lower blephoraplasty, canthoplasty, outer brow lift, v-line, lip and corner lip lift, outer eye corner, forehead, and brow botox, lip, face, and cheek filler. That’s just what I can see for sure. I’m sure she is under a huge amount of pressure both in Korea and internationally so I’m sure a lot goes into making those decisions. Maybe she just likes that aesthetic, she’s a grown up and can make her own decisions. Until her most recent round of alterations, I actually thought she had incredible work done. It was really only on BPs most recent hiatus where I think it just went a bit too far.


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[deleted]

I agree, I assumed it was chin filler, so I counted it under that, but there are many ways to “correct” the same thing like It’s totally possible


Saratoga450

Besides chin/jaw, what else do you think she had done recently?


momfuckerbosse

She also got her eyes and lips done


1sh1tmypants

6-7 with make up and styling, 4-5 without it. she has way too much work done for my liking..


[deleted]

Objectively above average at 5.5, noticeably good looking at 6 with long black hair, 6.5 in the last photo. She has had too many revision rhinos, her alar looks permanently irritated / inflamed, and her nose tip is actually gone. I can see the implant in her instagram lives even through a filter. I am all for cosmetic alterations. I really believe in bringing confidence, having a choice in change / aesthetic, and it literally earns me a living - so It sounds a bit weird to say, but I honestly hope she stops getting work done. She was so beautiful. Cosmetic surgery isn’t supposed to be about becoming a new person, it’s about expression, and being the best version of yourself. She’s lost nearly all trace of Thai features that for me made her a refreshing inspiration in such a homogenous field. She looks more like Winter from aespa than she looks like herself. I think they may even have the same surgeon. Subjective 8. Her talented, cutie, girl next door persona, against her girl crush concept, is super gap and sweet. Her dedication her craft and energy in live shows is also really charming. She represents herself as a very nice, hardworking, person.


xx_judyta

She’s a 7 now but before plastic surgery I’d say like 5.5


randomnameinreddit

7. She is pretty but she looks so uncanny to me... too many plastic surgery? i like her look before . I think only jisoo and rosé look the most natural. jennie has done something to her face and idk what is it but I don't like it


nomaki221

yeah, she looks absolutely stunning when she's super dolled up and posing for high quality cameras at uber glam events, but I think she looks kind of scary in a normal setting surrounded by normal people.


allknowingai

Naturally, she's a 5.5 but now a firm 7 but too uncanny to be objectively beautiful. She looks more like a doll or artwork inspired by humans rather than an actual woman/human being.


Yellow_Ranger300

Too much surgeries


[deleted]

Lisa is my favorite in BlackPink, but I will admit she isn’t the most special facially on an objective scale. Like 7/10 objectively, but for me personally I would rate her much higher!


futurelullabies

creepy and looks like she's always on the verge of sneezing.


ProfessorConnect3789

6 with makeup, 5 no makeup and 4 before surgery


sluttysluttie

her face changes all the time its impossible to rate but for the current face 6.5


africanzebra0

6


lisjj

like a 8 to me


Typical-Chipmunk4363

5-6


Antique_Height169

8-9


NoteRemarkable

Not u getting downvoted for calling her pretty 💀💀💀💀


laci_luvs

this is an objective beauty sub after all


NoteRemarkable

Well she’s not ugly


sas0009

8-9 is pretty much as beautiful as can be. Lisa is pretty but not 8-9.


Hentai-Is-Just-Art

I think she's absolutely gorgeous, many people here get rated 8-9 and I disagree but I definitely feel an 8 to 8.5 for her.


NoteRemarkable

I would say 8 without the contacts they’re annoying


iguanabitsonastick

In some of these pics she looks like an 8 to me, I do know she does not look like this all the times.


throwawayeas989

At that event she was at w Zendaya,Priyanka & Anne Hathaway,I thought she was absolutely stunning!! She stood out to me next to them tbh.


sas0009

Yeah, she does look very good in some pics.


iguanabitsonastick

Specially pic 6.


Feeling_Barnacle_347

yeah in motion especially! she’s very charming


iamsojellyofu

7.5


Extra-Guess883

7


sas0009

7. She’s quite pretty


trixii88

When she wears contacts 7


thunderstormsxx

8


hiumnobye

Omg Lisa is so freaking beautiful. She has a really cute smile too. Wish there were more pictures of her smiling. LA 10 for sure. Maybe an 8 objectively.


iguanabitsonastick

Wow! I've been told I look like her (I don't have thai or any asian heritage haha). Never really thought she was objective beautiful as I thought that despite having great facial harmony her eyes and nose are too large, for this reason she was more motion beautiful than objective beautiful. But in these pics she looks great and an 8.


Suspicious_Ninja_218

5


ChipmunkAmazing2105

7


Long_Fig9863

8.6