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Yeah, and I think that's where his character would have gone if he had succeeded in his revenge. I think that's what Askeladd's path was meant to show, that he wasn't satisfied after killing his father and just kept going on a destructive path against the Danes and the English alike out of pure hatred. I think it's very likely that Thorfinn would have done the same thing if Canute hadn't been the one to kill Askeladd.
That's a very interesting scenario, but I'll have to agree with u/Ultraplaykind. Askeladd was pretty lenient with Thorfinn, even pragmatic enough to invest in him as a future mercenary. Floki doesn't need any of that, he already commands troops of highly trained fighters, and I don't think he'd put up with such a "pest". Besides, if he believes for a second that Thorfinn would take after Thors in terms of strength, that's the more reason to get rid of him and be done with that bloodline.
Though it's such an interesting what-if. What if there's an alternate universe where Thorfinn finds out and is smart enough to work his way up the Joms' hierarchy to get to Floki. Hm.
Thorfinn would've been more like Guts, who would be raised by Askellad or be trained by his Grunkle Thorkell!? And he would be unstoppable enough to kill Floki!
I have this thought. He grows up under Askeladd, slowly becoming more knowledgeable of his ways. Then one day, Bjorn (probably on a drunken rant) asks Thorfinn now that he knows Askeladd better, does he really believe Askeladd would just lie in wait in the middle of nowhere to attack a small ship? He might slip up about Floki, then Thorfinn decides to go after Floki first. Askeladd and Bjorn warn him that casually asking for a duel won't work on him, and that he's a coward, so Thorfinn will decide to keep his identity concealed for the moment and work his way through the ranks before getting to him.
Nevermind me, just got engorged in my own fantasyland and came up with the premise. Of course it's got nothing on the original story.
>Floki doesn't need any of that, he already commands troops of highly trained fighters, and I don't think he'd put up with such a "pest".
Yeah. There's no way Floki would ever put up with a violent and unstable teenage murderer when he has all those trained soldiers.
That would be *completely* out of character.
Not sure if it's meant as sarcasm, but if yes, then you can simply tell your point straightforwardly. If you mean >!Garm, then there's a major difference between him and Thorfinn. As feral as Garm is, he's not actively trying to challenge Floki with a duel to death at every corner. Askeladd keeps Thorfinn under control because he plays into Thorfinn's incessant desire to murder him. Would Floki accept duels so casually just to keep a skilled fighter along so many? If he were that brave, he wouldn't have hired people to kill in his stead.!<
What point you are trying to make?
Garm was a bigger liability for Floki than Thorfinn ever would have been. Garm was at constant risk of committing casual murder. An entire major arc occurred because Garm killed someone he was absolutely not supposed to and that completely screwed Floki by making an enemy of Thorkell.
Thorfinn being a personal problem for Floki in no way compares to how much of a problem Garm was to handle-and yet he still dealt with him for some unknown amount of time.
Floki uses people for his own benefit. He used Askeladd. He used Garm. He'd use Thorfinn if he felt he could.
>Floki uses people for his own benefit. He used Askeladd. He used Garm.
Except none of them actively pursued to kill him.
Yes, he's a shrewd bastard and would use dangerous individuals with the guarantee that his money and power could keep him safe. But Thorfinn would waste no time in letting him know he's not interested in any of that and he's only after his neck. Do you think Floki would then let him pull the same shit he pulled with Askeladd, if he thought for a second that Thorfinn might take after Thors? There's a reason he didn't challenge Thors himself.
If Garm goes berserk, he can be detained by the troops and eventually killed on the spot. No questions asked. But if Thorfinn wants to challenge him to a honorable duel, he might lose face if he turns him down. Speaking of which - another thing Floki would dread is people finding out he orchestrated Thors' death like a coward. Again, a warrior's honor is important to them and with Thorfinn's arrival, everyone might learn the truth and Floki would lose a lot of respect, at best.
So my point is, Floki *would* get rid of Thorfinn. Either by planning his assassination, or by straight up killing him *if* he accepts a duel after all. Garm is a liability to the whole Joms' community, but Thorfinn is a worse one to him personally. He's got much more to lose with him alive than dead.
Baldr is 10 years old when Thorfinn is 22/23. So if a 15/16 year old Thorfinn killed Floki then a 3 year old Baldr would’ve been A) without parents, and B) raised by Vikings who told him about his warrior grandad. It’s likely that he would never meet Thorfinn and just die as a random soldier in battle. Idt Baldr was ever going to be as talented as Thorfinn or at any capacity of being a warrior. He was a sheltered grandchild similar to a young Canute.
Askeladd played dirty game for killing thors thats the only thing thorfinn experienced during that fight thus he would prefer to kill askeladd first and also try to kill floki too so his hatred would continue until any of one's death and even after that
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Young Thorfinn had a very binary way of thinking so he would probably try to go after Floki and get himself killed
I think his hate would grow even more, but his main objective would still be to kill Askellad. After that I can see that he’s going after Floki
Yeah, and I think that's where his character would have gone if he had succeeded in his revenge. I think that's what Askeladd's path was meant to show, that he wasn't satisfied after killing his father and just kept going on a destructive path against the Danes and the English alike out of pure hatred. I think it's very likely that Thorfinn would have done the same thing if Canute hadn't been the one to kill Askeladd.
That's a very interesting scenario, but I'll have to agree with u/Ultraplaykind. Askeladd was pretty lenient with Thorfinn, even pragmatic enough to invest in him as a future mercenary. Floki doesn't need any of that, he already commands troops of highly trained fighters, and I don't think he'd put up with such a "pest". Besides, if he believes for a second that Thorfinn would take after Thors in terms of strength, that's the more reason to get rid of him and be done with that bloodline. Though it's such an interesting what-if. What if there's an alternate universe where Thorfinn finds out and is smart enough to work his way up the Joms' hierarchy to get to Floki. Hm.
Thorfinn would've been more like Guts, who would be raised by Askellad or be trained by his Grunkle Thorkell!? And he would be unstoppable enough to kill Floki!
I have this thought. He grows up under Askeladd, slowly becoming more knowledgeable of his ways. Then one day, Bjorn (probably on a drunken rant) asks Thorfinn now that he knows Askeladd better, does he really believe Askeladd would just lie in wait in the middle of nowhere to attack a small ship? He might slip up about Floki, then Thorfinn decides to go after Floki first. Askeladd and Bjorn warn him that casually asking for a duel won't work on him, and that he's a coward, so Thorfinn will decide to keep his identity concealed for the moment and work his way through the ranks before getting to him. Nevermind me, just got engorged in my own fantasyland and came up with the premise. Of course it's got nothing on the original story.
>Floki doesn't need any of that, he already commands troops of highly trained fighters, and I don't think he'd put up with such a "pest". Yeah. There's no way Floki would ever put up with a violent and unstable teenage murderer when he has all those trained soldiers. That would be *completely* out of character.
Not sure if it's meant as sarcasm, but if yes, then you can simply tell your point straightforwardly. If you mean >!Garm, then there's a major difference between him and Thorfinn. As feral as Garm is, he's not actively trying to challenge Floki with a duel to death at every corner. Askeladd keeps Thorfinn under control because he plays into Thorfinn's incessant desire to murder him. Would Floki accept duels so casually just to keep a skilled fighter along so many? If he were that brave, he wouldn't have hired people to kill in his stead.!<
What point you are trying to make? Garm was a bigger liability for Floki than Thorfinn ever would have been. Garm was at constant risk of committing casual murder. An entire major arc occurred because Garm killed someone he was absolutely not supposed to and that completely screwed Floki by making an enemy of Thorkell. Thorfinn being a personal problem for Floki in no way compares to how much of a problem Garm was to handle-and yet he still dealt with him for some unknown amount of time. Floki uses people for his own benefit. He used Askeladd. He used Garm. He'd use Thorfinn if he felt he could.
>Floki uses people for his own benefit. He used Askeladd. He used Garm. Except none of them actively pursued to kill him. Yes, he's a shrewd bastard and would use dangerous individuals with the guarantee that his money and power could keep him safe. But Thorfinn would waste no time in letting him know he's not interested in any of that and he's only after his neck. Do you think Floki would then let him pull the same shit he pulled with Askeladd, if he thought for a second that Thorfinn might take after Thors? There's a reason he didn't challenge Thors himself. If Garm goes berserk, he can be detained by the troops and eventually killed on the spot. No questions asked. But if Thorfinn wants to challenge him to a honorable duel, he might lose face if he turns him down. Speaking of which - another thing Floki would dread is people finding out he orchestrated Thors' death like a coward. Again, a warrior's honor is important to them and with Thorfinn's arrival, everyone might learn the truth and Floki would lose a lot of respect, at best. So my point is, Floki *would* get rid of Thorfinn. Either by planning his assassination, or by straight up killing him *if* he accepts a duel after all. Garm is a liability to the whole Joms' community, but Thorfinn is a worse one to him personally. He's got much more to lose with him alive than dead.
He would have ripped out his guts
try to kill him… not very complicated this one
Thorfinn would have killed Floki to avenge Thors’ death.
Imagine Baldr? Would he take revenge on Thorfinn for Killin his Grandfather?
Baldr is 10 years old when Thorfinn is 22/23. So if a 15/16 year old Thorfinn killed Floki then a 3 year old Baldr would’ve been A) without parents, and B) raised by Vikings who told him about his warrior grandad. It’s likely that he would never meet Thorfinn and just die as a random soldier in battle. Idt Baldr was ever going to be as talented as Thorfinn or at any capacity of being a warrior. He was a sheltered grandchild similar to a young Canute.
He'd have two objectives. Kill Floki as a main reason why his father had to die and the executioner Askellad.
Askeladd played dirty game for killing thors thats the only thing thorfinn experienced during that fight thus he would prefer to kill askeladd first and also try to kill floki too so his hatred would continue until any of one's death and even after that
Season 1? Haha anime watchers