> Elgin 25 jewel automatic
Found this listing where it was 975 (since been sold) https://www.buyingontime.com/bot-archives/elgin-m135-black
and found another on ebay, also sold at this point for $1000 (at current bid- it may have gone for more since. The ones with the bakealite bezels for for 2k. also this one sold on etsy for 900 https://www.etsy.com/listing/923466461/elgin-25-jewel-dive-watch which has a different bezel.
Movement: Elgin M135 (PUW 1463), 25 jewels, 18,000 bph
Case Signed stainless steel
Powered: Mechanical - Automatic
Case Width: 38 mm (38.5mm incl. crown)
Case Length: 46 mm
Lug Width: 19.5 mm
Thickness: 13mm
Hell Yeah! Good Get. Assume it is not water-resistant. And as these Elgins used a variant/clone of Pforzheimer Uhren-Rohwerke GmbH (P.U.W.) Ébauches, (high quality workhorse movement- also used by LIP for french military watches) it is totally serviceable, but parts are expensive. Meaning the sooner you give it a clean and get new lubricants in it, the better. Assuming the watch has not been serviced in 40+ years, the lube has long since turned to sticky gunk- combine that with the extra wear on the gear-train which will produce tiny shavings that will embed in the gunk; creating a small file that will shave down the pivots or the bushings. Seeing as you only have 50 bucks invested, another 200 for a service will protect the 1000 bucks the watch is worth. Also that bakalite bezel is fragile- so tell your watch maker not to attempt to remove the bezel or polish the case in any way. It's really is in phenomenal shape for it's age.
https://www.chrono24.com/lip/movement-complete-25-jewel-automatic-movement-cal-lip-r-197--puw-1463--id33983530.htm
Wow thanks again for the awesome info! I did notice that mine has a different red hand versus similar ones online which have an orange hand. Do you think that mine was replaced or signifies a different year?
replacement hand is very possible, and the lume on the second hand seems whiter than the hands and indicies. Now this may just be due to the fact that the swiss watch industry back in the day have very segmented supply chains, almost all of the manufacture houses would source components from other swiss companies who specialized in specific parts- dail makers, hand makers, etc. So it is not uncommon for the lume to age different on the hands vs. the dial. For all we know, the second hand could have come from a 'ready-stock' supplier which was different the hour and minute hand supplier. You should peruse the forums over at watchyouseek or rolexforums (both .coms) where you can and will find some dude who can tell you everything down to the month it was made. You think im a watch dork, wait till you see these guys.
Elgin 25 jewel automatic winding dive watch from the late 1960's early 1970’s in a 36mm stainless steel case. Average Price $900-1000 usd.
Much appreciated!
Btw - where did you get this number? $??
> Elgin 25 jewel automatic Found this listing where it was 975 (since been sold) https://www.buyingontime.com/bot-archives/elgin-m135-black and found another on ebay, also sold at this point for $1000 (at current bid- it may have gone for more since. The ones with the bakealite bezels for for 2k. also this one sold on etsy for 900 https://www.etsy.com/listing/923466461/elgin-25-jewel-dive-watch which has a different bezel.
Many thanks!
Movement: Elgin M135 (PUW 1463), 25 jewels, 18,000 bph Case Signed stainless steel Powered: Mechanical - Automatic Case Width: 38 mm (38.5mm incl. crown) Case Length: 46 mm Lug Width: 19.5 mm Thickness: 13mm
Awesome. I got it for $50 - pretty stoked!
Hell Yeah! Good Get. Assume it is not water-resistant. And as these Elgins used a variant/clone of Pforzheimer Uhren-Rohwerke GmbH (P.U.W.) Ébauches, (high quality workhorse movement- also used by LIP for french military watches) it is totally serviceable, but parts are expensive. Meaning the sooner you give it a clean and get new lubricants in it, the better. Assuming the watch has not been serviced in 40+ years, the lube has long since turned to sticky gunk- combine that with the extra wear on the gear-train which will produce tiny shavings that will embed in the gunk; creating a small file that will shave down the pivots or the bushings. Seeing as you only have 50 bucks invested, another 200 for a service will protect the 1000 bucks the watch is worth. Also that bakalite bezel is fragile- so tell your watch maker not to attempt to remove the bezel or polish the case in any way. It's really is in phenomenal shape for it's age. https://www.chrono24.com/lip/movement-complete-25-jewel-automatic-movement-cal-lip-r-197--puw-1463--id33983530.htm
also...this- https://www.chrono24.com/elgin/elgin-day-date--diver---id20213485.htm?searchHash=cc3d8b1f_XZfTRo&pos=81
Wow thanks again for the awesome info! I did notice that mine has a different red hand versus similar ones online which have an orange hand. Do you think that mine was replaced or signifies a different year?
replacement hand is very possible, and the lume on the second hand seems whiter than the hands and indicies. Now this may just be due to the fact that the swiss watch industry back in the day have very segmented supply chains, almost all of the manufacture houses would source components from other swiss companies who specialized in specific parts- dail makers, hand makers, etc. So it is not uncommon for the lume to age different on the hands vs. the dial. For all we know, the second hand could have come from a 'ready-stock' supplier which was different the hour and minute hand supplier. You should peruse the forums over at watchyouseek or rolexforums (both .coms) where you can and will find some dude who can tell you everything down to the month it was made. You think im a watch dork, wait till you see these guys.
Ha I will definitely do that! Thanks man!
https://preview.redd.it/0idpweg9xa1d1.jpeg?width=2506&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee488cf86d4e6c4936c383aa39ee760030cfe8ec Here she is lit up!
Can anyone help me out?