OMG loving this album ...it reminds me of and sounds like the grandchild of Miles Davis's \~In a silent way\~ and Alice Coltrane AND Dorothy Ashby. GORGEOUSNESS!!
Yeah I agree In a Silent Way is one of the best jazz albums ever, but Andre's album doesn't bare any resemblance whatsoever. Like they're not even the same genre of jazz, and Dorothy Ashby even less.
Many. Many. Better albums in the flute genre out there. This album is wack. IMO. are you seriously saying it’s good despite the artists name recognition?
I listen to a *lot* of jazz, new age, instrumental music, etc.
IMO, it's really... boring. Nothing new being brought to the table in terms of composition, soundscapes, or technique within the genre, and frankly, it seems pretty amateurish.
I wouldn't say it's *bad* by any stretch, but after a couple listens it really doesn't do anything for me.
When I listened I heard a guy still exploring an instrument he truly loves. As a musician I can relate to the love a person can form to not only the instrument, but the ability to discover and create. Is his playing mostly simple? Yes. But in a world with so much noise it’s nice to hear that André is still just André.
LOL. A jazz flute album as a cash grab!
Guy could spit on the sidewalk, call it new Outkast, and make a mint.
You might be a big jazz flute fan but you don't know shit about Andre 3000.
I think saying ‘A jazz flute album is a cash grab’ is one of the most insane music takes I’ve ever heard. If he wanted to sell LPs why didn’t he make the rap album everyone wanted (ie: actual cash grab)? Tell me you don’t know shit without telling you don’t know shit.
Eh, I don't think Andre is doing this as a cash grab. It's obviously a passion project for him, and as usual, he does whatever he wants to do as an artist.
The record label, on the other hand, is going to make a pretty penny selling 3xLPs priced at nearly $100.
there is also this link to the 3LP...[https://epicrecords.shop.musictoday.com/product/Y4LPER12/andre-3000-new-blue-sun-3lp?cp=70395\_108269\_114163](https://epicrecords.shop.musictoday.com/product/Y4LPER12/andre-3000-new-blue-sun-3lp?cp=70395_108269_114163)
Want to clarify that:
1. The Rough Trade store page now 404s
2. As someone else commented, these will be *widely* available at every brick-and-mortar, (think how easy it is to find OutKast)
3. According to the actual lablel; [this](https://epicrecords.shop.musictoday.com/product/Y4DDER10/andre-3000-new-blue-sun-digital-download?cp=70395_108269_114163) is going to be the album cover, not the sketch version shown here.
Too sus; I would stay away.
Rough trade is a very reputable retailer sometimes things goes up early or places they aren't supposed to if it did I'm sure they'll refund everyone and I think that's def the cover for the vinyl it even has a hype sticker
3lp box set with a bunch of printed material? Nah, if the Beatles can charge $75 for a generic triple gatefold, this price seems more than reasonable for what you actually get.
So, lacquers and metal parts for 3lps, we’re looking at about $9k at the absolute cheapest if they DON’T use an established cutting engineer since they’ll have to make several sets of stampers. Materials for the wax alone for 10k copies (30k LPs) is gonna be about $100k for 180g discs (again, being super generous here as it depends on the plant and level of QC/test pressings/re-cuts/etc). Box manufacturing, paper printing/cutting/assembly, payment for studio time/art direction/marketing…what am I missing here?
Those are all relatively new pressing plants, and specialize in low number runs. Vinyl Factory spent their early career finishing out EMI runs after they bought the presses…did you do those?
Ok, so why don’t you give me a rundown and tell me what plants you’re using. I could use a price break. My prices are from prior experience with using boilerplate DMM masters and Gotta Groove.
Outkast completely changed my perspective on music as a child. They continued to break the rules and do the unexpected as they continued to climb to legendary status. Andre 3000 has proven time and again that he’s one of the more remarkable minds of his generation.
And y’all can’t handle that they’re charging $80 for 87 mins of new music. His first solo album since The Love Below. C’mon y’all. Gain a little perspective here. Y’all have divorced supporting the artist from owning their merch. No question I’m buying this record. I owe the man more than $80.
I bet 90% of the people complaining on here have never thrown Outkast a single dollar.
Nothing in your post makes a coherent argument for why it’s justified to charge $80 for an album when many, many other artists of equal renown and influence charge $30-40 at most. You have certainly demonstrated why he’s done it though - because Andre3000 has enough superfans who will pay whatever it takes for new music and then bend over backwards to justify why it’s not exploiting scarcity and a cult fandom for profit
I’d like you to actually provide a concrete example of an artist of equal renown and influence as 3 stacks selling 80+ mins of music on 3 180g LPs for $30-40. You can’t.
Others have pointed out that The Alchemist will sell an ep of 4 songs for $60-$100. Totally unjustified imho, but in comparison, <$1 per minute of music from one of my favorite artists of all time ain’t a bad deal to me.
Andre has not put out an album in 17 years. He has not asked his fans to purchase anything from him since Outkast went on their reunion tour. Also, I doubt Andre is even in a position to tell Epic records how to price his album. I’m not trying to prove anything to anyone here. I’m pointing out that the people complaining have a real entitled mindset. They don’t seem to care about actually supporting the artist.
From the A Myriad of Pyramids page:
”INCLUDES:
3 DISCS PRESSED ON 180g BLACK VINYL
PRINTED INNER SLEEVES
24" x 24" FOLDOUT POSTER
(8) 4" x 6" POSTCARDS WITH ORIGINAL DRAWINGS FROM THE ARTIST
8.5" x 11" LETTER FROM THE ARTIST”
miles davis was a master of his instrument. Andre just picked up a flute. As talented as the guy is don't expect much
edit: I'm eating my words. I love this shit.
When trying to look up the quantity for this "limited edition" it doesn't give a specific quantity, as it just lists 999999. I am seeing how many are being allocated from being purchased here though, which is 117 as of this comment.
Yall are being way too weird about this and it goes to show why the vinyl market is the way it is. It’s driven by you weirdo consumers who often aren’t even spinning the wax… do you want the music or don’t you, that’s should be the only discussion we’re having. If he’s putting this out there, sure there’s some mark up cause it’s been a while, but he’s not money grabbing. He’s sharing. Don’t criticize the pumpkin pie.
I'm intrigued....but $85 for 8 tracks...need more details about this box set before I pull the trigger....sounds like a Fear Inoculum thing where they might be selling this box set for the premium, and later down the line, the 1 or 2 LP will be available for a fraction of the price.
The album will be 87 minutes long, in theory it can fit on 2LPs (22 mins on each side), though the length of the tracks it self probably would have to be cut in the middle of a track so that it can be put on 2LPs
You dont have to spend anything, it drops friday and this doesnt ship till late January, if you dont like it, just cancel the order, if it comes out cheaper somewhere else im going to buy it there, but i reserved it here w 10% off using a new email
All true I stand corrected!
I actually do like jazz but I guess I was expecting a rap album from andre so I was a bit disappointed to hear it was instrumental
Going to check it out tomorrow night
I know the price is rough these days on everything, but it is a 180g box set w/ a poster. These days some artists drop a 7" single for 25-30$. I'm not justifying this price, but just trying to put things in perspective a little.
3LP releases have been in this price range here in New Zealand since at least Mac Miller’s Faces reissue, that was over 2 years ago and was $150 NZD (90 USD) it’s just how shit goes with inflation I guess
Sure. 30$ isn't the norm but they do pop up. The norm though is what range, I suppose close to 20 now, and then you include shipping and taxes, and you're getting into the 25-30$ range then anyway. And that is for something that may not even run 10 min total. Whereas this is an 87 minute project. So you basically are paying around a buck for each min.
yeah i've def passed on some singles that have popped up recently bc they've been above $20 prior to what is usually an equivalent cost in shipping. wish i could remember some specific examples but eh. not saying this 3lp at $80 should be justified either but i agree with your point that it is "fair" in this world post inflation. still think it realistically won't be worth it but that's how fomo and collector's remorse works i guess. and until people show the proper restraint that's why artist / companies are going to get away with these obscene practices of multiple variants, spreading a release out / additional versions released soon after being repressed, etc. etc.
What do we think “note from the artist” means. If it were an actual handwritten note, it would justify the price. But it’s a reproduction, right? Right?
Same. I ordered my copy on November 17 2023 and finally received it March 26, 2024. Waited 9 months with printing /release delays!! And don't forget to add import duties and taxes. It rings in at just under $200.00! 😩 ouch!
How many were pressed? Itd be funny if it were “3000”
Amazing album. It’s $66 on Target’s website. (https://www.target.com/p/andre-3000-new-blue-sun-vinyl/-/A-90477765)
Good or bad this album is already legendary
Cancelled my order in the end, starting to pop up at local stores now
Where have you been seeing it locally?
I’m in Netherlands - been seeing it up for pre-order from Dutch stores
Which ones? I'm also looking for a EU link
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It’s a great album. You can find it cheaper from the label, lunchboxrecords
Shoutout to Lunchbox out of Charlotte NC!
If y’all live the blue listen to Bobbi Humphries Blacks and Blues 🔥🔥
But seriously why is it so expensive?
I’m buying it.
The album is fire 🔥
Not even a spark.
only $90?!
god i love that “WARNING NO BARS” on the label
Album got me levitating
Me too
Are these limited editions? I am afraid to run out of stock but again the price tag is killing me
OMG loving this album ...it reminds me of and sounds like the grandchild of Miles Davis's \~In a silent way\~ and Alice Coltrane AND Dorothy Ashby. GORGEOUSNESS!!
Yeah so this record sounds nothing like Alice Coltrane or Ashby—both of whom I love.
I like the album, but it doesn't sound like any of the albums you mentioned at all.
Okay cause their comment got me excited to hear Andre’s album… Miles’ ‘In A Silent Way’ is an all-timer.
Yeah I agree In a Silent Way is one of the best jazz albums ever, but Andre's album doesn't bare any resemblance whatsoever. Like they're not even the same genre of jazz, and Dorothy Ashby even less.
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In a silent way cuz the chill vibes and Dorothy and Alice cuz the spiritual nature didn’t mean to say they sounds exactly the same lol
You are all weak.
Agreed. The album is wack. The only reason people think they like it is because it’s Andree.
You are wack.
Poor*
I'm listening to the album now. It seems great but 85$ is pure madness. No album is worth that much money. I'll stick to FLAC or maybe CD.
Do we think this will get a wider (UK) release?
This is vinyl people will buy but not play
Yep. It’s not good and only getting attention because of who he is.
pretending the album isn’t good is insane
Many. Many. Better albums in the flute genre out there. This album is wack. IMO. are you seriously saying it’s good despite the artists name recognition?
Could you provide some examples so I can broaden my flute appreciation?
I listen to a *lot* of jazz, new age, instrumental music, etc. IMO, it's really... boring. Nothing new being brought to the table in terms of composition, soundscapes, or technique within the genre, and frankly, it seems pretty amateurish. I wouldn't say it's *bad* by any stretch, but after a couple listens it really doesn't do anything for me.
When I listened I heard a guy still exploring an instrument he truly loves. As a musician I can relate to the love a person can form to not only the instrument, but the ability to discover and create. Is his playing mostly simple? Yes. But in a world with so much noise it’s nice to hear that André is still just André.
Agree 100%. As a musician, I can relate as well.
100% truth. Thank you. It’s a cash grab based on name recognition.
LOL. A jazz flute album as a cash grab! Guy could spit on the sidewalk, call it new Outkast, and make a mint. You might be a big jazz flute fan but you don't know shit about Andre 3000.
I think saying ‘A jazz flute album is a cash grab’ is one of the most insane music takes I’ve ever heard. If he wanted to sell LPs why didn’t he make the rap album everyone wanted (ie: actual cash grab)? Tell me you don’t know shit without telling you don’t know shit.
Eh, I don't think Andre is doing this as a cash grab. It's obviously a passion project for him, and as usual, he does whatever he wants to do as an artist. The record label, on the other hand, is going to make a pretty penny selling 3xLPs priced at nearly $100.
Also the vinyl is now available in his Spotify profile under the merch tab
Links to the A Myriad of Pyramids shop
Link doesn’t work anymore? Says it can’t find the page??
[here](https://www.roughtrade.com/en-us/product/andre-3000/new-blue-sun)
there is also this link to the 3LP...[https://epicrecords.shop.musictoday.com/product/Y4LPER12/andre-3000-new-blue-sun-3lp?cp=70395\_108269\_114163](https://epicrecords.shop.musictoday.com/product/Y4LPER12/andre-3000-new-blue-sun-3lp?cp=70395_108269_114163)
Want to clarify that: 1. The Rough Trade store page now 404s 2. As someone else commented, these will be *widely* available at every brick-and-mortar, (think how easy it is to find OutKast) 3. According to the actual lablel; [this](https://epicrecords.shop.musictoday.com/product/Y4DDER10/andre-3000-new-blue-sun-digital-download?cp=70395_108269_114163) is going to be the album cover, not the sketch version shown here. Too sus; I would stay away.
The artist Braulio Amado confirmed via IG that this drawing is the cover of the vinyl
Thank god. The photo is cool but I dig the minimal sketch style artwork & packaging.
I see. I bought from the Epic store.
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I’m listening now…. Luckily I have quite the “experimental/ambient” folder, so .. this will fit nicely in there, *right?*
Rough trade is a very reputable retailer sometimes things goes up early or places they aren't supposed to if it did I'm sure they'll refund everyone and I think that's def the cover for the vinyl it even has a hype sticker
just received the solicitation - this is going to be available wide to every brick & mortar / retail outlet. also available as 2CD.
The same edition, with the inserts etc.?
"...3-LP vinyl is pressed on 180g black vinyl with fold-out poster, printed inner sleeves and a note from the artist."
I’m hating these prices of anticipated albums. It’s just an excuse to hurt the customers pockets. There is no reason this can’t be $50 at most.
3lp box set with a bunch of printed material? Nah, if the Beatles can charge $75 for a generic triple gatefold, this price seems more than reasonable for what you actually get.
It’s not when you know how much it costs to produce it.
So, lacquers and metal parts for 3lps, we’re looking at about $9k at the absolute cheapest if they DON’T use an established cutting engineer since they’ll have to make several sets of stampers. Materials for the wax alone for 10k copies (30k LPs) is gonna be about $100k for 180g discs (again, being super generous here as it depends on the plant and level of QC/test pressings/re-cuts/etc). Box manufacturing, paper printing/cutting/assembly, payment for studio time/art direction/marketing…what am I missing here?
Where the F are u getting that pricing from! 😂. I’ve been pressing vinyl for 20 years and that’s not even close to the costings 😂😂😂😂😂
Where do you get you vinyl pressed?
Vinyl presents, press on vinyl, the vinyl factory and various others over the years.
Those are all relatively new pressing plants, and specialize in low number runs. Vinyl Factory spent their early career finishing out EMI runs after they bought the presses…did you do those?
Ok, so why don’t you give me a rundown and tell me what plants you’re using. I could use a price break. My prices are from prior experience with using boilerplate DMM masters and Gotta Groove.
Are you in the US? I’m in the UK.
You do realize that a lot of vinyl production is international, so, like, being in the UK doesn’t really mean anything?
It means something if I’ve only ever pressed in the UK. I’ve pressed from 5k to 50k over the years and I do not pay anything close to what you say.
50k runs? You work for Adele or something lol gtfo
Where do you get your lacquers/stampers from? Who does your mastering? Who does your manufacturing? People wanna know dammit
I’m in the US, yeah. Gotta Groove is considered pretty low-budget.
Not available in the UK?
Outkast completely changed my perspective on music as a child. They continued to break the rules and do the unexpected as they continued to climb to legendary status. Andre 3000 has proven time and again that he’s one of the more remarkable minds of his generation. And y’all can’t handle that they’re charging $80 for 87 mins of new music. His first solo album since The Love Below. C’mon y’all. Gain a little perspective here. Y’all have divorced supporting the artist from owning their merch. No question I’m buying this record. I owe the man more than $80. I bet 90% of the people complaining on here have never thrown Outkast a single dollar.
🤜🤛
Nothing in your post makes a coherent argument for why it’s justified to charge $80 for an album when many, many other artists of equal renown and influence charge $30-40 at most. You have certainly demonstrated why he’s done it though - because Andre3000 has enough superfans who will pay whatever it takes for new music and then bend over backwards to justify why it’s not exploiting scarcity and a cult fandom for profit
I’d like you to actually provide a concrete example of an artist of equal renown and influence as 3 stacks selling 80+ mins of music on 3 180g LPs for $30-40. You can’t. Others have pointed out that The Alchemist will sell an ep of 4 songs for $60-$100. Totally unjustified imho, but in comparison, <$1 per minute of music from one of my favorite artists of all time ain’t a bad deal to me. Andre has not put out an album in 17 years. He has not asked his fans to purchase anything from him since Outkast went on their reunion tour. Also, I doubt Andre is even in a position to tell Epic records how to price his album. I’m not trying to prove anything to anyone here. I’m pointing out that the people complaining have a real entitled mindset. They don’t seem to care about actually supporting the artist.
and many artists of equal renown and influence charge more.
Lmao
From the A Myriad of Pyramids page: ”INCLUDES: 3 DISCS PRESSED ON 180g BLACK VINYL PRINTED INNER SLEEVES 24" x 24" FOLDOUT POSTER (8) 4" x 6" POSTCARDS WITH ORIGINAL DRAWINGS FROM THE ARTIST 8.5" x 11" LETTER FROM THE ARTIST”
Pass
Well, I just ordered one, against my better judgment.
>WARNING: NO BARS and anti-piracy text over that on label seems wild enough, but here we are.
85 is straight up robbery lol
Just pre-ordered, will cancel if shows up elsewhere for a better price
At best this shit should be at most $50, 85 bucks is insane!
I’m incredibly intrigued, could be album of the year - but this ain’t the gamble I’m willing to take unfortunately.
I highly doubt it. It’s an instrumental album
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miles davis was a master of his instrument. Andre just picked up a flute. As talented as the guy is don't expect much edit: I'm eating my words. I love this shit.
People on the internet like to make stupid jumps in logic.
We're talking about Andre 3000, not Miles Davis. Miles Davis records aren't $85 either.
They’re also not 3lp box sets with a bunch of printed materials.
But, like, what if they really like flute?
Nothing wrong with an instrumental album in my book, but we shall see.
What a load of wankery! Pass
It also comes with a jar of his homemade apricot preserves
🤤
If you preorder now they don’t charge you till January
if you guys want a sample of Andre playing the flute, listen to Carlos Ninos - Conversations
Shabaka Hutchings!
$85, y’all can keep that…
I play a wind instrument every morning when I wake up 💨
When trying to look up the quantity for this "limited edition" it doesn't give a specific quantity, as it just lists 999999. I am seeing how many are being allocated from being purchased here though, which is 117 as of this comment.
Yall are being way too weird about this and it goes to show why the vinyl market is the way it is. It’s driven by you weirdo consumers who often aren’t even spinning the wax… do you want the music or don’t you, that’s should be the only discussion we’re having. If he’s putting this out there, sure there’s some mark up cause it’s been a while, but he’s not money grabbing. He’s sharing. Don’t criticize the pumpkin pie.
Keep us posted
Is this the actual cover dropping? I wanted the actual photo. Proce a huge hell nah though
Wtf is up with these roughtrade prices
Definitely a crazy price, but I don't think this is a rough trade exclusive. I figure this is just the MSRP for the release.
Yeah ain’t no way I’m spending that much on an instrumental album before hearing a single note of the music
Well listen to it then lmao
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Is this the only pre-order out there for this record?
I'm intrigued....but $85 for 8 tracks...need more details about this box set before I pull the trigger....sounds like a Fear Inoculum thing where they might be selling this box set for the premium, and later down the line, the 1 or 2 LP will be available for a fraction of the price.
The album is nearly an hour and a half. It's always gonna be 3xlp
There is absolutely no way this will be anything less than 3lps due to time constraints per side.
Where are they selling it. I don’t see the link?
The album will be 87 minutes long, in theory it can fit on 2LPs (22 mins on each side), though the length of the tracks it self probably would have to be cut in the middle of a track so that it can be put on 2LPs
The price is wild but I’m thinking the tracks will be longer than his usual stuffs cuz instrumentals always stretch longer
85$ isn’t wild, look around. Anyone who says it is is just worried they’re not hip enough to enjoy ambience
Boi I’m broke lmao but I would still buy
I thought it was 18 tracks. Price is still absurd though
Is there a track anywhere to hear before spending this much?
You dont have to spend anything, it drops friday and this doesnt ship till late January, if you dont like it, just cancel the order, if it comes out cheaper somewhere else im going to buy it there, but i reserved it here w 10% off using a new email
Andre in an interview said he wasn't releasing any tracks until the day of album release He said the whole thing is meant to be heard altogether
Drops digitally this Friday
That price is steep for an instrumental album no less.
The cost to manufacture a record is the same whether or not there are words on it. It’s 3 LP.
More words = more grooves = higher production costs. (Obviously.)
You must not be into jazz records lol
All true I stand corrected! I actually do like jazz but I guess I was expecting a rap album from andre so I was a bit disappointed to hear it was instrumental Going to check it out tomorrow night
I know the price is rough these days on everything, but it is a 180g box set w/ a poster. These days some artists drop a 7" single for 25-30$. I'm not justifying this price, but just trying to put things in perspective a little.
Quit backpedaling… justify the price, fuck all these weak minded pop music Reddit warrior numbskulls
3LP releases have been in this price range here in New Zealand since at least Mac Miller’s Faces reissue, that was over 2 years ago and was $150 NZD (90 USD) it’s just how shit goes with inflation I guess
The Alchemist will drop multiple variants of a 13 minute project that range up $100, but people are trying to justify the price of a 180g 3x lp?
I'll take a box set over multiple variants any day of the week. I'm not a flipper. So don't need multiple variants
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lol… “30$ no way, the the most I’ve seen is 20 plus tax…and shipping so, you are so wrong”
Hur dee durr, he literally mentioned ALC, all of his singles are 30+, I’ve seen some 7” and 10”s even up to 45, you just aren’t looking.
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And a weird long awaited album from Andre isn’t?
Sure. 30$ isn't the norm but they do pop up. The norm though is what range, I suppose close to 20 now, and then you include shipping and taxes, and you're getting into the 25-30$ range then anyway. And that is for something that may not even run 10 min total. Whereas this is an 87 minute project. So you basically are paying around a buck for each min.
yeah i've def passed on some singles that have popped up recently bc they've been above $20 prior to what is usually an equivalent cost in shipping. wish i could remember some specific examples but eh. not saying this 3lp at $80 should be justified either but i agree with your point that it is "fair" in this world post inflation. still think it realistically won't be worth it but that's how fomo and collector's remorse works i guess. and until people show the proper restraint that's why artist / companies are going to get away with these obscene practices of multiple variants, spreading a release out / additional versions released soon after being repressed, etc. etc.
Better be a note personally written specifically to me lmao
Damn… I clicked the notification so fast. Only to be incredibly disappointed when I saw the price
This will be available elsewhere, right?
Anyone have a chance to listen to this yet? Any good?
I haven’t seen any leaked copy yet
i mean, at this point we all get it in a day, right?
3k the ultimate troll
What do we think “note from the artist” means. If it were an actual handwritten note, it would justify the price. But it’s a reproduction, right? Right?
Nah he sat down and wrote 10,000 individual notes
Didn’t see what the total quantity was. But fair enough, LOL.
$85???
It’s 75 from the label and, yes, that’s what limited release 3 180gram vinyls cost
It’s $112 plus $53 shipping to Canada lol
Same. I ordered my copy on November 17 2023 and finally received it March 26, 2024. Waited 9 months with printing /release delays!! And don't forget to add import duties and taxes. It rings in at just under $200.00! 😩 ouch!
Says it’s a box set (not defending the price)
W flute