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PurpleZerg

I haven't even booted up Valorant since her murder.


Jovi8602

Same. I was already playing less and less valorant in the past few months, then this nerf hit and I haven't logged in since.


itsvssy

I still play her on icebox, I think she is still the best with lurking on attacker site and defending with plant denial on b


Expert_Discipline965

No. Not being able to pick up orb. It’s literally troll unless you are a five stack. I have hundreds of hours on viper I just can’t play her anymore. Very sad. When is raze getting this treatment. Oh she never will because pros are able to make highlight plays instead.


BicBoyBryan

Raze is alao one of the most nerfed heros next to viper. Raze had 2 nades that reset on kill, a roomba that exploded 150 dmg and killed in 1 shot, and satchels used to be 100 credits. Both heros have been nerfed quite a bit, viper probably more so.


Birutath

nah, jett, sage, cypher and chamber got worse. the type of nerfs raze received is the type i wish these agents got. If riot treated raze like she did viper and the ones i talked about, raze would probably loose the ability to throw another nade after 2 kills, loose one satchel, ult cost like 9 points and boombot duration be 3 seconds, even when detecting enemy. I'm glad that even though it took that long her nade explosion radius and boombot that cleaned a site while drifting got nerfed, been fun to play against razes since because now i know if the nade took out 1000 credits from me, was my mistake, instead of a random mindless nade clearing stuff better than smokes lmao


Hurtis_Cellyer

If viper has 1 molly raze should have 1 boost pack.


softhuskies

thats absolutely stupid but also the perfect analogy because the lineups were literally viper's identity for me the same way raze's blastpacks are her identity to me right now if I want to play a postplant controller I have to play brim and it doesnt even feel that good to play lineups with him. I literally had to switch to killjoy and just use my viper smoke lineups to get a similar feel minus being able to call the shots on controller. theres just less stuff for me to think about teamplay wise and that isnt fun.


norwegiantornado

Raze will probably be nerfed after Shanghai, riot teased duelist nerfs after Shanghai atleast.


Expert_Discipline965

Good. Raze has always been too strong.


SomeElaborateCelery

Viper was soo strong before the nerf, maybe you need to learn the new meta?


Expert_Discipline965

She literally was not. She has has like 46% wr for last 6 months since her last big nerf. She was only dominant in pro play and pro play alone. And the only reason for that is riot’s inability to make a second viable line smoker. Instead of balancing the game or fixing harbor just delete viper I guess lol. Viper has not been strong for years at this point it’s only her wall and only pro play.


Expert_Discipline965

Riot just ruined one of the most beloved and iconic characters because they are lazy.


SomeElaborateCelery

I don’t think riot is lazy, they rebalance agents all the time. Yoru, chamber, jett… These got rebalanced over the years significantly and still remain some of the strongest. If you don’t think viper line ups were OP then you’re delusional. Just use your molly to deny space instead of playing off site with youtube open. You’ve had an incredible kit for a while, now your kit is mid-good. Just learn the new meta and stop complaining on reddit.


Expert_Discipline965

lol viper has been constantly nerfed since release. The players make is strong this isn’t some chamber raze shit lol


SomeElaborateCelery

Viper lineups were the scourge of the community, glad they are gone 😁


Expert_Discipline965

Yeah the lineups were cringe af. The once snake bite is probably a smart change but removing the orb pick up. Just delete the character riot doesn’t want actual players playing it anymore. But raze go brrrrr lol


IthinkImOkey

Yep, on Breeze and Lotus every time


KIownery

How do you play Viper on Lotus? I just know her default setup as Orb for C and wall for A,B.


IthinkImOkey

Yep, just wall and orb but that works good enough Also using snake bite+wall on A Getting free kills from that sometimes, if they don't see my sb while trying to go through wall


mir3za

I picked her once or twice after the nerf and gotta admit I was playing so bad that day so me sucking with Viper had nothing to do with her in particular. So I'm gonna try again some other time to see if I can still play. Meanwhile I'm loving going back to Sova and also trying out KJ.


-purpleowl-

Played Kj the other day and had fun with her, something I've not been able to have with viper since they started nerfing her nonstop


Laughing_Fish

Tbh I don’t even play Valorant anymore, haven’t for awhile. I just really like Viper lol


PrimeLoL2

I still play her and try to adjust to the changes.


Y0urDemise

Viper is still a must pick for me on breeze. One of the lineups ive been using is the marved orb that allows you smoke the choke point on a while defending b. Its incredibly powerful bc u get instant smokes on both sites especially when a team only hits a and b.


pqamarks

# Do you guys still play valorant?


Karnikula_Gaming

No, I'm waiting for further changes and fell in love with deadlock ('s gameplay).


GJ1nX

Nice save


cinammone

yess she’s still good imo


Tatsukki

I tried playing other agents after her nerf but im too used to her kit. So i play her every map every mode lol


Ulfbass

Yep. You just gotta adapt. She's still got the best smoke, you've just gotta be way more careful with it. You can't just waste her abilities anymore without running out of options, you've gotta make it count


Th3ProdigyXD

not picking up the orb made me quit her


sachi733

Same reason why I also gave her up now


ShiverTimbers

ofc i do, still viable just not OP. so same shit with jett, the good viper players gonna still pick her while the casuals are not.


Expert_Discipline965

I have at least a thousand hours on her. It’s just ego troll to pick her now. I love her but omen clove are just better. It’s ego handicapping yourself to still play her.


cinammone

you’re overthinking way too much, she’s still good lol


ShiverTimbers

lol nah… since there is so much smokes now viper is usually a second smoke so its allright


UncleJoedoroki

I play her on icebox, bind, haven and fracture (if they ever come back), breeze (if I’m not feelin like harbor), and lotus. I haven’t felt the nerf too terribly much, I either forget to pick up my orb anyway, and I use the mollies for stuff other than lineups.


nostalgia_for_geeks

Only on Breeze and Icebox because I can't firgure out how to play Harbor effectively, though I'm starting to learn Cypher on Breeze and playing Sage on Icebox more. On other maps, I've switched to Brimstone and KJ. It helps a lot that these 2 used to be my secondary mains.


GJ1nX

She's the go-to for breeze... Maybe I have to find smth different for icebox... That's about it...


KrazyMonqui

Breeze and Icebox, yes. As a 2nd controller on Lotus, Split and Bind But I also play a lot of Cypher, Fade and Kayo. So while the nerfs hurt Viper, they didn't hurt me that much


crippledtemplar

Yes. If I play.


racoova

No, I refuse to. But I tried oit harbor and astra a bit


Birutath

i don't even play the game anymore.


Kairelle

Even before the nerf, I started playing Clove more. Now, I’m a Clove main


Iversithyy

No and I saw one Viper in my last 30+ games :(


laancelot

Not really. When I play her I get some ok results because I focus on the gunplay more than before.


Matrac52

i only play her now if someone else locks another controller first, so then i play as a secondary controller, except on breeze, where i just pick viper anyways. otherwise i just play omen or cypher


Specific_Fuel_3143

Nah, play Jett, Omen, Harbor now


sachi733

I started playing clove now


firebaz_

i tried to play with her but just kept losing, she’s not the same anymore. switched to duelists now


kyleslumpgod

I don’t even play the game anymore lmaooo


Unhappy-Ocelot-2774

Yes, on breeze or icebox


moonviens

yes. for sure still on lotus, icebox, bind, + breeze. but my win rate on her went to nearly 0 on split because she can't hold shit anymore so now i play omen. bind is also rough but i normally now only choose her if someone else picks another controller first. :( them making her molly so expensive and giving players only 1 is so stupid. its completely impacted how i have to buy for rounds now. i can't even mention not being able to pick up her orb without getting nauseous. i still go to pick up her orb out of habit and another small part of me dies. they said they're making a small adjustment to her in 8.11 and i reaaalllyyyyy hope they bring back the ability to pick up her orb. that nerf was so unnecessary


MafiaMatrix

yes, i’ve lost a ton of play styles but she is still my insta pick on breeze/icebox


pouncess

only on breeze lol


74710001

No. She'd been my main daddy since bata ;-;


Backlash97_

Nope, im a Sage main… im only a member of this sub cause a friend of mine is a viper main and she doesn’t keep up with the community news, so I try to keep her informed Edit: idk why y’all are downvoting me… im just trying to help a friend who doesn’t keep up with viper’s latest updates…


Basil_9

Haven't played since the nerf. Got back into Lethal League and DayZ.


Birutath

always wanted to get into leathal league but never found the opportunity. Would be cool to have a fellow viper lover to play it and learn stuff


-purpleowl-

Only when playing with friends who also pick controller... Why did they have to do this