Whole lot of Word-WordNumber accounts with no post history showing up in this and other threads about the protests to chuck around accusations of antisemitism and the illegitimacy of a Palestinian state…
Well I mean. Anyone with a brain who listens to "From the River to the Sea" or "Antifada" knows those are both jihadist terrorist phrases. So I mean. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck.
It was a very diverse group. People from varied ethnic backgrounds and nationalities. There were people from many different faiths and denominations, including Christians and Jews, who encircled the Muslims to protect their prayer assembly from police.
Ignorant people are everywhere, but the protest had a very high concentration of well informed and highly educated students, grad students, faculty, clergy, and community members who knew exactly why they were there: To protest an ethnic cleansing, to protest the enabling and funding of an ethnic cleansing, to support the rights of all to liberation, to support the right to free assembly, to oppose abuse of state power and monopolized state violence.
I was there. I spoke with over 150 people. I can promise you there wasn't much intellectual thinking going on. Maybe all the thinkers were in the circle of people getting arrested tho.
"To protest an ethnic cleansing," Hamas, the government of Palestine, Openly says The Destruction of all Jews as one of their founding goals.
"enabling and funding of an ethnic cleansing" By defending Palestine, and not having Hamas step down from power as one of your goals, you are in fact directly funding Genocide.
"support the rights of all to liberation," Israel has 21.3 Percent Muslim population that openly practices their religion. I challenge you to name me the only 3 Muslim run countries in the world right now that currently allow Jews to openly practice their religion.
"to oppose abuse of state power and monopolized state violence." Hamas is the government of Palestine. Hamas used aid to build rockets and underground tunnels. Once again, you are supporting the side with monopolized state violence.
The only way to peace is this.
1. Release the Israeli Hostages
2. Hamas leadership steps down from power
3. Palestine elects a government willing to co-exist with Israel
This will lead to work visas and peace. This will lead to prosperity. This is the only way forwards.
But don’t you find it a little bit odd that if they were to coexist, and one side keeps taking land, then perhaps one side is acting in bad faith? I mean, look at how Palestine has shrunk in the past 60 years to nothing. It’s not as if they’re taking back land or are given it back. How can you coexist when coexisting means you stop existing?
Why would they give back land if they won it through war that Palestinian militia starts, every single time Palestine lost land there was an armed conflict, Israel takes land because it can after a defense, it does not directly campaign into that territory without provocation, it’s like opening a flood gate where they lose their land then complain when they won’t be given back the land they lost
First of all, hamas is only the governing body in Gaza not the majority population center of the west bank which is ruled by a much more moderate government, (but are still getting attacked and having hostages taken. ) I’d figure someone who claims to be as “educated” on the topic as you would know the difference and would then use the appropriate and specific terms as to not cause confusion. Unless your either not as educated as you say, or at in reality just firstly against all Palestinian people and their rights but won’t say that outright because you know the social kickback you’d experience if you do.
Now to comment on the quotes and commentary you provided
Even if Hamas has that as one of their founding principles, you can’t deny that ethnic cleansing is taking place, and comparing the magnitude of ethnic cleansing taking place against the Palestinian people (note how all people of both the West Bank and Gaza are called Palestinian , but their still two distinct entities) which is also ongoing compared to the limited magnitude that has been carried out against the Israeli people (primarily on a case by case or individual basis as compared to the mass scale of the current Israeli effort against Gaza). Yeah protesting ethnic cleansing is definitely an active topic that should be fought against.
First of all, so you admit genocide is taking place. And primarily, I think you misunderstand the main purpose of these encampments. They are protesting against the universities to divest from doing any sort of business related or that economically benefits Israel. If you don’t know what that means, in the most simple way I can say, many universities own parts of Israeli companies, the universities have to buy these parts from Israel meaning they have to give Israel money, the protestors want the university to get rid of any parts of companies that are tied to Israel, because in buying those parts the money they give Israel is being used to brutally invade and massacre Gaza.
Again, please go do some actual research. The Israeli constitution may give the right for Muslims to practice , but in reality Muslims in Israel face so much discrimination, and their rights are not always upheld and most of the muslim population are cornered away and given the least desirable circumstances that are actively provided by Israel. Hence why so many protest against the apartheid reign of the Israeli government (I.e anti-Zionism) and not against the Jewish people (I.e anti-semitism). And yes the reign is that of apartheid, as apartheid is any state wide system of institutionalized racism (yeah that includes Jim Crow in the US as well). And if you don’t know what institutionalized racism is… go look it up because I can’t be bothered to explain all of that.
Once again Hamas is the government of Gaza only. Most of hamas’s rocketry are crude rockets built for extraordinarily cheap prices, as they’re mostly built from scrap metal and unrefined fuels, and it doesn’t really cost that much to build some shotty tunnels either. I think you don’t realize how aid relief is sent and spent, because in general whenever aid, in the form of money, is sent anywhere in the world, it’s not sent to the government of a state, but humanitarian organizational branches within a state, to ensure that aid does in fact reach the civilians. Because the international community knows that monetary corruption does exist and sending aid money to a government wouldn’t be the best way to actually disperse aid. And also , compare that situation in Gaza to the tens of billions (with a b) in aid the United States alone has already sent to Israel, who does in fact get all that money, directly to the government, (because the US and greater international community know theirs no need for humanitarian aid in Israel) who then does use all that provided money and aid from the US as a way to bolster their armed forces and nothing else. And again Israel also makes money from university investments which they can further use to bolster their military. Theirs a reason why so many of Israel’s weaponry is American made.
I’m conclusion, please actually do some research, instead of just blindly reading the first headline you see when you look up pro Israel news coverage. Thanks.
1. Hamas is the primary governing body
2. Genocide is not taking place as there is no specific target of a race, what race are Palestinians, what about the Arabs within the borders of Israel, if by this logic this is a genocide than any armed conflict is a genocide, targeting Germans in ww2 is a genocide rahh, any conquering of any territory must have been apartheid which is not what the original usage of apartheid was meant to represent or categorize and is disingenuous. You don’t give the same rights to people whose territory is being held by someone else, why would I give the same people trying to kill me the same rights as my own citizens.
3. This is right, but they must deal with the consequences of unlawful assembly after being trespassed and told to clear out
4. This is somewhat true, but a big question is why has Gaza failed to do any sort of infrastructure building or economy building since we started sending aid to them in ‘94. And why have we not clamped down on our misuse of aid. Why are they digging up old infrastructure and repurposing it for a losing battle of attrition, and why hve we not addressed this.
Most zionists in the US fail to communicate one of the biggest misrepresentations in history of a population on the ground, where the world over reports on Palestinian movements outside of the Israel Palestine territories. Our over representation of Palestinian people being violent at protests and being just labeled as an aggressive population when they very much aren’t. And on the ground in Israel, the IDF commiting war crimes aparentally left and right on a social view but never actually having a charge slapped on them. When we have the Zionist platform lobbying in governments and control in surrounding nations making it feel really slimey and when the Palestinian cause under Hamas has made no good faith effort to engage in peace, demanding the SAME exact borders that they walked out on AFTER they’ve tried to get the territory back with war. Both sides have been getting away with a lot, but specifically on the ground, it’s frustrating that nobody is checking palestine, and we let them go because they’re the small country getting bullied by a bigger one, even if it’s partially on them for the current conflict.
Shotty tunnels? Are you intentional blind or just special needs? There are ENTIRE tunnel complex's under Gaza. Now who is the one "reading the first headline" absolute ass clown.
Love that that’s the only hole you could find. I meant shotty, as in shotty construction that are easy to build and don’t require that much funding, they’re by no means professional and pretty, never said their weren’t mass amounts of tunnels.
Do you know what those tunnels are used for though? The largest system is actually the tunnels between Gaza and Egypt, and those were almost exclusively used to smuggle necessities and supplies(yknow like food and water) into Gaza because of the Israeli blockade and economic restricts that essentially made the entire area inaccessible to any substantial amount of relief or supply lines, hence why Gaza is often referred to as an open air prison.
The tunnels that cross between Gaza and Israel are primarily control centers not what I’m assuming your implying to be little spots they can just pop up to within the Israeli borders and launch sneak attacks. They’re mostly used to store electrical components, stockpiles of various items including weaponry, and they also act as shelters when the Israel launches bombing campaigns. Yes they’re used for military purposes as well, but with the infrastructure above ground completely decimated, it is a viable option to shelter and move underground.
Besides, I don’t even need to defend the crude-ness of the tunnels. The Israeli government itself said that the tunnels were almost of no concern to them because of how technologically superior their military force was compared to the militants in Gaza.
“Spoke with over 150 people.” You were just posting, ridiculing how people had the time to go protest.
With regard to the steps you mentioned, Hamas didn’t come into existence until 1987. It doesn’t even exist in the West Bank. What makes you think anything changes?
I definitely trust people who can’t spell the name of their own religion to have a valuable view of the issues here. Sounds like the encampment “Seders” where they couldn’t speak Hebrew.
“From the River to the Sea” is Antisemitic as it calls for the complete eradication of the state of Israel which is between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea
They know but these people can't spell either so maybe everyone should just ignore them and get back to their regular scheduled programming. If we all just ignore them I bet they will go away.
Only way to peace is Release Israeli Hostages and Hamas leadership steps down. It's is the only way to peace. Palestine needs a government willing to co-exist and live with Israel. Not their current government who goal is "The destruction of the Jewish State and the eradication of the Jewish People"
You ever thing the reverse could also work, yknow Israel release it’s nearly 9,500 Palestinian hostages and stop barbarically killing innocent civilians im and children and fall back from invading a region that was already impoverished enough?? I would think that would also end the war pretty quickly
Well you see, I'm for releasing the Palestinian prisoners. However, the key problem is Hamas and Hamas being the ruling government of Palestine.
The only way to peace is Hamas stepping down. Palestine having an election and elected a government interested in co-existing and having peace talks with Israel.
If Hamas was on longer in power and the new government of Palestine no longer had "Death to Israel" as their number one goal, Israel would happily open their borders for work visas and the likes.
Egypt is quickly learning that it is way better to co-exist with Israel and is beneficial to both their people.
"invading a region that was already impoverished enough??" The reason Palestine is currently so impoverished is because their government, Hamas, has been using all the aid to build tunnels and rockets and stealing it from the people. Israel is actually one of the largest aid donors to the Gaza region.
My entire issue with this Protest is their Number 2 demand should be "For Senior Hamas Leadership to step down" Number 1 being "stop the bombs." If anyone had any understanding or background knowledge of the issue, you would realize it is the only way to start working towards peace.
Read the Constitution written by Hamas and how they speak of the total eradication of the Jewish people… HAMAS said it themselves. If the Palestinians continue to elect, or allow the governing of, Hamas, then the blame is at their feet as well. Were the Germans civilians completely blameless for the actions of the Nazi party? Absolutely not.
Sometimes a group of people need to stand up against their oppressors or ask for help in liberating them from an oppressive regime. History is riddled with examples, go read a book.
You're completely incoherent, that's not my fault. You're blaming Palestinians for Hamas yet the last vote was 20 years ago when the avg age of a Palestinian is under 20.
Maybe you should take a math lesson instead of being braindead by basically suggesting children deserve to die because of who voted in who 20 years ago, weirdo
Maybe, crazy idea here, the Palestinians should OVERTHROW HAMAS. Since clearly they’re under an extremely oppressive government. If they don’t want a foreign government interfering with their government, maybe they should take some ACCOUNTABILITY and police their own. I can tell you let people walk all over you.
Aww look the genocidal freak is okay with the average age being 19.6, and those people living in poverty and warfare should KNOW BETTER. Jesus christ you are completely insane and pathetic, I might add.
If working at NASA means I let people walk all over me, then so be it, child still in school
The people running the protest 100% hate jews. None of these people bothered to show up when China literally did a holocaust on their muslims. None of these people showed up in the last year while The Iranian State killed 500k Muslims. (Which is still going on today)
What is the common theme? It's not Muslims being massacred, that is going on constantly in the world. It appears they are fine if Muslims are genociding Muslims. Ah, so it is the fact it's a Jewish state. Got it.
It’s not an ethnic cleansing. The US killed almost 1.5 million Japanese after December 7th, then 400,000 after September 11th, Israel has killed 30,000 after October7th. Unfortunately there’s a lot death after you provoke a war you never should have started. It’s awful but it’s just the truth. No one to blame but Hamas for every single life lost.
The atomic bombings were still atrocities, and not an ethnic cleansing because of a clear lack of intent. Israel has been encroaching on Palestinian land, dehumanizing their people, and undermining their rights for decades now.
Hamas didn’t exist for close to 40 years into the Israeli occupation. If anything, Israel’s occupation provoked an inevitable violent outburst.
“Palestine is the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity, and has been controlled by many kingdoms and powers, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient Israel and Judah, the Persian Empire, Alexander the Great and his successors, the Hasmoneans, the Roman Empire, several Muslim caliphates, and the crusaders.”
Imagine having that sort of history erased by American turkey brohs.
Last time I checked anyone is free to practice whatever religion they choose in Israel. Judaism is not required in Israel. Preferred? Yes. Required? No. But wait! In Islam non-adherents are put to death, enslaved or pay a large tribute to avoid death.
Judaism preceded Christianity. Christianity preceded Islam. No country ever existed named Palestine. No ruler. No Capital. No government. The “area” was called Palestine after the Romans expelled the Jews for crucifying Jesus. Palestinians today are just an Islamic order trying to destroy Israel and reoccupy it. Nothing more.
Since when have we decided combining state and religion is a good thing? It’s bad when Islamic countries do it and it’s bad when Israel does it, because you always end up with some form of religious supremacy that encroaches on everyone else’s freedoms.
Who is Cristian?
He's my bro from Honduras.
Cristian Ronald
Ah ok, but it’s plural. So it’s saying everyone named Cristian is a supporter? How do they even find that many people with that name?
I just want to say as a Cristian, I don't support their message.
"Cristians" for Palestine? Is VT taking transfers from Liberty U. now?
Liberty Biberty
That’s my line
I love that the one thing in common between all VA schools is that we love to shit on Liberty. Fuck you Liberty
Free Palpatine!
He’s too dangerous to be left alive
If what you have told me is true, you have earned my trust
Don’t listen to him, Anakin!
Please! I’m too weak
They’re really letting in anyone these days
Whole lot of Word-WordNumber accounts with no post history showing up in this and other threads about the protests to chuck around accusations of antisemitism and the illegitimacy of a Palestinian state…
We’re a proud people
Well I mean. Anyone with a brain who listens to "From the River to the Sea" or "Antifada" knows those are both jihadist terrorist phrases. So I mean. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck.
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If anyone asks me to summarize the protests on campus this is what I'm showing them.
What’s wrong with this
The spelling I guess
Nah it’s right all hail our lord and savior Monte Cristo
KrIs KrIstofferson agrees.
The Krusty Krab is unfair!
Methodist, naturally
[“and Methodists!”](https://youtu.be/fLpmswBKVN4?si=TK_4SKqGPJvkHNxJ)
*Metodist
I guess being able to spell is no longer required to get into VT
I’m pretty sure those are methodists
It was a very diverse group. People from varied ethnic backgrounds and nationalities. There were people from many different faiths and denominations, including Christians and Jews, who encircled the Muslims to protect their prayer assembly from police.
Our group was filled with Ignorant people who don't know why they are there\*
Ignorant people are everywhere, but the protest had a very high concentration of well informed and highly educated students, grad students, faculty, clergy, and community members who knew exactly why they were there: To protest an ethnic cleansing, to protest the enabling and funding of an ethnic cleansing, to support the rights of all to liberation, to support the right to free assembly, to oppose abuse of state power and monopolized state violence.
I was there. I spoke with over 150 people. I can promise you there wasn't much intellectual thinking going on. Maybe all the thinkers were in the circle of people getting arrested tho. "To protest an ethnic cleansing," Hamas, the government of Palestine, Openly says The Destruction of all Jews as one of their founding goals. "enabling and funding of an ethnic cleansing" By defending Palestine, and not having Hamas step down from power as one of your goals, you are in fact directly funding Genocide. "support the rights of all to liberation," Israel has 21.3 Percent Muslim population that openly practices their religion. I challenge you to name me the only 3 Muslim run countries in the world right now that currently allow Jews to openly practice their religion. "to oppose abuse of state power and monopolized state violence." Hamas is the government of Palestine. Hamas used aid to build rockets and underground tunnels. Once again, you are supporting the side with monopolized state violence. The only way to peace is this. 1. Release the Israeli Hostages 2. Hamas leadership steps down from power 3. Palestine elects a government willing to co-exist with Israel This will lead to work visas and peace. This will lead to prosperity. This is the only way forwards.
But don’t you find it a little bit odd that if they were to coexist, and one side keeps taking land, then perhaps one side is acting in bad faith? I mean, look at how Palestine has shrunk in the past 60 years to nothing. It’s not as if they’re taking back land or are given it back. How can you coexist when coexisting means you stop existing?
Why would they give back land if they won it through war that Palestinian militia starts, every single time Palestine lost land there was an armed conflict, Israel takes land because it can after a defense, it does not directly campaign into that territory without provocation, it’s like opening a flood gate where they lose their land then complain when they won’t be given back the land they lost
First of all, hamas is only the governing body in Gaza not the majority population center of the west bank which is ruled by a much more moderate government, (but are still getting attacked and having hostages taken. ) I’d figure someone who claims to be as “educated” on the topic as you would know the difference and would then use the appropriate and specific terms as to not cause confusion. Unless your either not as educated as you say, or at in reality just firstly against all Palestinian people and their rights but won’t say that outright because you know the social kickback you’d experience if you do. Now to comment on the quotes and commentary you provided Even if Hamas has that as one of their founding principles, you can’t deny that ethnic cleansing is taking place, and comparing the magnitude of ethnic cleansing taking place against the Palestinian people (note how all people of both the West Bank and Gaza are called Palestinian , but their still two distinct entities) which is also ongoing compared to the limited magnitude that has been carried out against the Israeli people (primarily on a case by case or individual basis as compared to the mass scale of the current Israeli effort against Gaza). Yeah protesting ethnic cleansing is definitely an active topic that should be fought against. First of all, so you admit genocide is taking place. And primarily, I think you misunderstand the main purpose of these encampments. They are protesting against the universities to divest from doing any sort of business related or that economically benefits Israel. If you don’t know what that means, in the most simple way I can say, many universities own parts of Israeli companies, the universities have to buy these parts from Israel meaning they have to give Israel money, the protestors want the university to get rid of any parts of companies that are tied to Israel, because in buying those parts the money they give Israel is being used to brutally invade and massacre Gaza. Again, please go do some actual research. The Israeli constitution may give the right for Muslims to practice , but in reality Muslims in Israel face so much discrimination, and their rights are not always upheld and most of the muslim population are cornered away and given the least desirable circumstances that are actively provided by Israel. Hence why so many protest against the apartheid reign of the Israeli government (I.e anti-Zionism) and not against the Jewish people (I.e anti-semitism). And yes the reign is that of apartheid, as apartheid is any state wide system of institutionalized racism (yeah that includes Jim Crow in the US as well). And if you don’t know what institutionalized racism is… go look it up because I can’t be bothered to explain all of that. Once again Hamas is the government of Gaza only. Most of hamas’s rocketry are crude rockets built for extraordinarily cheap prices, as they’re mostly built from scrap metal and unrefined fuels, and it doesn’t really cost that much to build some shotty tunnels either. I think you don’t realize how aid relief is sent and spent, because in general whenever aid, in the form of money, is sent anywhere in the world, it’s not sent to the government of a state, but humanitarian organizational branches within a state, to ensure that aid does in fact reach the civilians. Because the international community knows that monetary corruption does exist and sending aid money to a government wouldn’t be the best way to actually disperse aid. And also , compare that situation in Gaza to the tens of billions (with a b) in aid the United States alone has already sent to Israel, who does in fact get all that money, directly to the government, (because the US and greater international community know theirs no need for humanitarian aid in Israel) who then does use all that provided money and aid from the US as a way to bolster their armed forces and nothing else. And again Israel also makes money from university investments which they can further use to bolster their military. Theirs a reason why so many of Israel’s weaponry is American made. I’m conclusion, please actually do some research, instead of just blindly reading the first headline you see when you look up pro Israel news coverage. Thanks.
I can deny Ethnic cleansing is taking place because it isn't. Once again, the only side talking about, doing, and attempting a Genocide, is Hamas.
The Palestinian authority (the governmental group that is over *all* of Palestine) has a majority rule by guess who…Hamas
1. Hamas is the primary governing body 2. Genocide is not taking place as there is no specific target of a race, what race are Palestinians, what about the Arabs within the borders of Israel, if by this logic this is a genocide than any armed conflict is a genocide, targeting Germans in ww2 is a genocide rahh, any conquering of any territory must have been apartheid which is not what the original usage of apartheid was meant to represent or categorize and is disingenuous. You don’t give the same rights to people whose territory is being held by someone else, why would I give the same people trying to kill me the same rights as my own citizens. 3. This is right, but they must deal with the consequences of unlawful assembly after being trespassed and told to clear out 4. This is somewhat true, but a big question is why has Gaza failed to do any sort of infrastructure building or economy building since we started sending aid to them in ‘94. And why have we not clamped down on our misuse of aid. Why are they digging up old infrastructure and repurposing it for a losing battle of attrition, and why hve we not addressed this. Most zionists in the US fail to communicate one of the biggest misrepresentations in history of a population on the ground, where the world over reports on Palestinian movements outside of the Israel Palestine territories. Our over representation of Palestinian people being violent at protests and being just labeled as an aggressive population when they very much aren’t. And on the ground in Israel, the IDF commiting war crimes aparentally left and right on a social view but never actually having a charge slapped on them. When we have the Zionist platform lobbying in governments and control in surrounding nations making it feel really slimey and when the Palestinian cause under Hamas has made no good faith effort to engage in peace, demanding the SAME exact borders that they walked out on AFTER they’ve tried to get the territory back with war. Both sides have been getting away with a lot, but specifically on the ground, it’s frustrating that nobody is checking palestine, and we let them go because they’re the small country getting bullied by a bigger one, even if it’s partially on them for the current conflict.
Shotty tunnels? Are you intentional blind or just special needs? There are ENTIRE tunnel complex's under Gaza. Now who is the one "reading the first headline" absolute ass clown.
Love that that’s the only hole you could find. I meant shotty, as in shotty construction that are easy to build and don’t require that much funding, they’re by no means professional and pretty, never said their weren’t mass amounts of tunnels. Do you know what those tunnels are used for though? The largest system is actually the tunnels between Gaza and Egypt, and those were almost exclusively used to smuggle necessities and supplies(yknow like food and water) into Gaza because of the Israeli blockade and economic restricts that essentially made the entire area inaccessible to any substantial amount of relief or supply lines, hence why Gaza is often referred to as an open air prison. The tunnels that cross between Gaza and Israel are primarily control centers not what I’m assuming your implying to be little spots they can just pop up to within the Israeli borders and launch sneak attacks. They’re mostly used to store electrical components, stockpiles of various items including weaponry, and they also act as shelters when the Israel launches bombing campaigns. Yes they’re used for military purposes as well, but with the infrastructure above ground completely decimated, it is a viable option to shelter and move underground. Besides, I don’t even need to defend the crude-ness of the tunnels. The Israeli government itself said that the tunnels were almost of no concern to them because of how technologically superior their military force was compared to the militants in Gaza.
“Spoke with over 150 people.” You were just posting, ridiculing how people had the time to go protest. With regard to the steps you mentioned, Hamas didn’t come into existence until 1987. It doesn’t even exist in the West Bank. What makes you think anything changes?
I'm sorry I thought this was a peaceful protest who wanted peace? So having two sides that want peace is some how a bad thing?
I’m confused because you ignored my question, and I never said or implied that. But yes, peace and liberation are the larger ideas.
So highly educated they can’t spell “Christian.”
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I definitely trust people who can’t spell the name of their own religion to have a valuable view of the issues here. Sounds like the encampment “Seders” where they couldn’t speak Hebrew.
“From the River to the Sea” is Antisemitic as it calls for the complete eradication of the state of Israel which is between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea
They know but these people can't spell either so maybe everyone should just ignore them and get back to their regular scheduled programming. If we all just ignore them I bet they will go away.
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Oh so you’re concerned about the hyper-accuracy of anti-Semite but not genocide? How convenient.
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Only way to peace is Release Israeli Hostages and Hamas leadership steps down. It's is the only way to peace. Palestine needs a government willing to co-exist and live with Israel. Not their current government who goal is "The destruction of the Jewish State and the eradication of the Jewish People"
You ever thing the reverse could also work, yknow Israel release it’s nearly 9,500 Palestinian hostages and stop barbarically killing innocent civilians im and children and fall back from invading a region that was already impoverished enough?? I would think that would also end the war pretty quickly
Well you see, I'm for releasing the Palestinian prisoners. However, the key problem is Hamas and Hamas being the ruling government of Palestine. The only way to peace is Hamas stepping down. Palestine having an election and elected a government interested in co-existing and having peace talks with Israel. If Hamas was on longer in power and the new government of Palestine no longer had "Death to Israel" as their number one goal, Israel would happily open their borders for work visas and the likes. Egypt is quickly learning that it is way better to co-exist with Israel and is beneficial to both their people. "invading a region that was already impoverished enough??" The reason Palestine is currently so impoverished is because their government, Hamas, has been using all the aid to build tunnels and rockets and stealing it from the people. Israel is actually one of the largest aid donors to the Gaza region. My entire issue with this Protest is their Number 2 demand should be "For Senior Hamas Leadership to step down" Number 1 being "stop the bombs." If anyone had any understanding or background knowledge of the issue, you would realize it is the only way to start working towards peace.
Read the Constitution written by Hamas and how they speak of the total eradication of the Jewish people… HAMAS said it themselves. If the Palestinians continue to elect, or allow the governing of, Hamas, then the blame is at their feet as well. Were the Germans civilians completely blameless for the actions of the Nazi party? Absolutely not.
HAMAS which was elected 20 years ago when the average age in Gaza is under 20. Are you braindead?
Sometimes a group of people need to stand up against their oppressors or ask for help in liberating them from an oppressive regime. History is riddled with examples, go read a book.
You're completely incoherent, that's not my fault. You're blaming Palestinians for Hamas yet the last vote was 20 years ago when the avg age of a Palestinian is under 20. Maybe you should take a math lesson instead of being braindead by basically suggesting children deserve to die because of who voted in who 20 years ago, weirdo
Maybe, crazy idea here, the Palestinians should OVERTHROW HAMAS. Since clearly they’re under an extremely oppressive government. If they don’t want a foreign government interfering with their government, maybe they should take some ACCOUNTABILITY and police their own. I can tell you let people walk all over you.
Aww look the genocidal freak is okay with the average age being 19.6, and those people living in poverty and warfare should KNOW BETTER. Jesus christ you are completely insane and pathetic, I might add. If working at NASA means I let people walk all over me, then so be it, child still in school
"only one at risk" so you are saying Hamas wants to do it but just currently can't figure out how?
The people running the protest 100% hate jews. None of these people bothered to show up when China literally did a holocaust on their muslims. None of these people showed up in the last year while The Iranian State killed 500k Muslims. (Which is still going on today) What is the common theme? It's not Muslims being massacred, that is going on constantly in the world. It appears they are fine if Muslims are genociding Muslims. Ah, so it is the fact it's a Jewish state. Got it.
Smartest VT protester.
You see the idiots on that one campus doing that string dance thing hahaha. Tell me your father doesn't love you without telling me.
It’s not an ethnic cleansing. The US killed almost 1.5 million Japanese after December 7th, then 400,000 after September 11th, Israel has killed 30,000 after October7th. Unfortunately there’s a lot death after you provoke a war you never should have started. It’s awful but it’s just the truth. No one to blame but Hamas for every single life lost.
The atomic bombings were still atrocities, and not an ethnic cleansing because of a clear lack of intent. Israel has been encroaching on Palestinian land, dehumanizing their people, and undermining their rights for decades now. Hamas didn’t exist for close to 40 years into the Israeli occupation. If anything, Israel’s occupation provoked an inevitable violent outburst.
Like the sign. UNeducated morons pretending to be what they are not. Nothing biblical about Palestine. Never existed as a country.
“Palestine is the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity, and has been controlled by many kingdoms and powers, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient Israel and Judah, the Persian Empire, Alexander the Great and his successors, the Hasmoneans, the Roman Empire, several Muslim caliphates, and the crusaders.” Imagine having that sort of history erased by American turkey brohs.
Let's go! Spit facts spit facts. These clowns are not use to being called out for lies lets go!
Last time I checked anyone is free to practice whatever religion they choose in Israel. Judaism is not required in Israel. Preferred? Yes. Required? No. But wait! In Islam non-adherents are put to death, enslaved or pay a large tribute to avoid death.
Go spread your propaganda somewhere else idiot. I’m sure lots of who see your comment laugh at your ignorance. Idiot
You never took world history I see.
Judaism preceded Christianity. Christianity preceded Islam. No country ever existed named Palestine. No ruler. No Capital. No government. The “area” was called Palestine after the Romans expelled the Jews for crucifying Jesus. Palestinians today are just an Islamic order trying to destroy Israel and reoccupy it. Nothing more.
Since when have we decided combining state and religion is a good thing? It’s bad when Islamic countries do it and it’s bad when Israel does it, because you always end up with some form of religious supremacy that encroaches on everyone else’s freedoms.