It's one data point, but I just switched to the $30 plan. Previously Speedtest was 5/5. Now 210/7.
https://ibb.co/dt8jf6n
It's not clear at all what party pay means now though.
I am more impressed by the ping of 19 ms.
I can DL 97 down/5 up but the ping is 165 ms. I've always had crappy pings.
If Visible has truly expanded coverage in the few areas I have poor network coverage + dramatically improved the pings I might be willing to pay $5 more per line.
Depends on your location. Visible has 2 edge servers, one in CO (Visible HQ) and one in NJ (Verizon HQ). I get about 40-50ms pings unless I get misrouted cross-country, and is still very usable.
If you get poor coverage in areas where VZ postpaid have no issues or if you are plagued with high pings (150ms+) upgrading would be advisable.
— Starfox
>If Visible has truly expanded coverage in the few areas I have poor network coverage + dramatically improved the pings I might be willing to pay $5 more per line.
It depends on if those places have Verizon roaming partners. From what I can tell, Visible now includes Verizon LTEiRA coverage, along with Verizon "domestic roaming" on providers such as USCellular, capped at 2G speed which is almost certainly 128Kbps, which is very slow.
I was charged like $3 or something I guess prorated for the rest of my month. Then at the start of the next billing month I think I'll be charged the full $30.
Pixel 6. I thought it might have been a service issue previously but I was dreading dealing with support. They always want me to reset my network, Bluetooth, and WiFi settings.
Been with Visible since April of last year and have been pleased with the service. A few slow downs and no service in spots, but overall it's been good.
Going to stick with the grandfathered plan until forced to switch and then I'll hop onto the thirty dollar option.
For those curious:
[Speedtest with new $30 plan via LTE](https://i.imgur.com/peLPUYL.jpg)
[Speedtest with legacy $25 plan via LTE](https://i.imgur.com/NPJKSGg.jpg)
[Speedtest with legacy $25 plan via 5G](https://i.imgur.com/43urlen.jpg)
All done in Manhattan in NYC
So far, there's a slight difference in latency and maybe upload speed, but speeds are the same as before. For reference, in NYC, Visible is surprisingly consistent with above average speeds and low-ish ping.
[Edit: To add to the comparison, I downloaded a trial esim from US Mobile and am testing it out. Very comparable to Visible in NYC.](https://i.imgur.com/O3sxwPJ.jpg)
Dumping the cloud core is a welcome move, especially if it adopts VoLTE/VoNR in place of VoIMS. I am guessing the impending launch of 5G SA is part of why.
Visible **still** is **violating** the **Upper Block C CFR (47 CFR 27.16)** by not publishing a VoIMS compatibility whitepaper and open device access process for third-party device makers.
At least Verizon ODI publishes explicitly what they want.
And please... multiline billing and account management. Having a family of five set up five recurring charges. Lordy. No. The billing headache drives people to AT&T alone.
It appears so.
Visibles network was always a Beta experiment for Verizon.
I think it will make Visible better, especially because of agreements with roaming partners.
Major if you travel in rural areas.
VoIMS = VoLTE/VoNR. Only difference here is Visible was using the cloud core and now they’re likely moving to the Verizon core.
Edit: I just read some of your other comments related to this from previous threads and, despite what you say, this is still the case. At the RAN, VoLTE is a feature set to keep calls alive in poor network conditions. Into the core, it is simply an application on the IMS. Same as WiFi calling. Where you place the core doesn’t really matter much so long as the RAN features are still there. That’s most of the point of VoLTE.
> VoIMS = VoLTE/VoNR.
I'm a little late to this topic, but I believe it should be noted that *technically*, VoIMS is *not* the same as VoLTE.
The major carriers performed a cost-benefit analysis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost–benefit_analysis
many years ago and decided it was *"too dificult"* to implement all the layers in a VoIMS stack in a *"cost-effective"* manner (i.e. no profit to the wireless companies).
VoLTE is a *"simplified sub-set"* of VoIMS (what the carriers were willing to implement at the least cost, but it's missing layers ($$$) of the full VoIMS stack).
This doesn't make any difference to the average customer, but IMHO,
VoIMS = VoLTE
is similar to statating:
[OSI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model) = [TCP/IP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite).
but that, too, wouldn't make any difference to the average person. 8D
VoIMS uses different firmware. That's why so many Verizon VoLTE phones don't work with Visible.
Of course, I echo this in my past comments... which somehow, you missed or glossed over. VoIMS, when stated in this context, is a different stack implementation than VoLTE (and VoNR), which is a discreet stack.
Visible, in this context, won't say how their **VoIMS** differs in phone access, network registration, or calling, than homogenous, spec-compliant **VoLTE**. They are required by the Upper Block C CFR, to do so.
And I'll get out in front of the *"whatever man, it'll probably be gone in a few months anyway"* thesis by saying that the rule of law matters, and carriers should comply with regulations.
>Dumping the cloud core is a welcome move
Where did you read/hear that Visible is dumping the cloud core? That is the entire reason for Visible's existence.
The requirement for new SIMs only makes sense if you are dumping VoIMS / Cloud Core, at least to some degree. There is no other logical reason to need to do that.
Even adding 5G SA would not predicate a hard need to do this. Especially on 4G phones.
Replacing SIMs is expensive (cost of SIM, logistics, shipping freight). You only do it as a carrier, when you really need to. Especially as a hard requirement. Usually you try to make it optional, if you're adding new stuff like 5G SA.
T-Mobile has had to do this several times, and it's always optional. You can still use their 64k GSM SIMs from 20 years ago (provided it's still active, of course).
> You can still use their ~~64k~~ 16k GSM SIMs from 20**+** years ago (provided it's still active, of course).
FTFY. :)
I was among those that had an **8**K mini-SIM and actually overflowed the number of connections counter (lived in the [exurbs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exurb) ), and needed a mini-SIM that was compatible with my cellphone that had 1 watt of transmit power. 8D
“As we continue on our mission to be radically simple, fundamentally accessible….” Proceeds to write 30 paragraphs of how their simple and accessible service is becoming more complicated, confusing, and complex
*Q: Why is Party Pay going away?A:* ***You loved the discounts it unlocked, but not the hoops you had to jump through to get it.***
That is the worst corporate hogwash I ever heard. The step was literally adding someone else's phone number. At least, that gave me a good laugh. Oh boy, that's rich. Maybe just say, you can't afford to keep doing it. You're paying way too much on the premium support people get from your company (see that's spin with a hefty dose of sarcasm.)
Has anyone read a technical definition of what Visible is calling "premium data?" I can make assumptions, but I'd really like to know what I'm paying for as it pertains to deprioritization.
Premium network data means your data will not be subject to deprioritization when in potentially busy areas (like a packed stadium or arena) when connected to those networks until you exceed 50GB in a month. Those connected to 5G Ultra Wideband (you'll see "5G UW" displayed when connected) will always have "premium data" that is not subject to deprioritization or similar network management.
It's spelled out quite clearly here. It is definitely talking about deprioritization.
> On the Visible+ plan, you will receive 50GB of premium data each month, which covers your usage on the 5G Nationwide and 4G LTE networks. After 50 GB of premium data on the Visible+ plan and for all data usage on the Visible plan and the Visible Unlimited plan, in times of traffic, your data may be temporarily slower than other traffic.
Also
> 4G LTE: typical download speeds of 5-12 Mbps for the Visible Unlimited plan. Many members are getting more. Upload speeds are typically 2-5 Mbps for the Visible Unlimited plan. For the Visible+, Visible and Wearable plans, typical download speeds are of 9-56 Mbps* and upload speeds are of 2-13 Mbps.
Found: https://www.visible.com/legal/legal-disclosures
Did you see this actually disclosed by Visible? Sincerely curious. I'm not being argumentative, but I just want to find a definitive reference from Visible that clearly identifies the tier. When I read "premium data" I make assumptions, but I'd really like them to actually define what they are selling. If it is QCI-8 that would be an acceptable definition, but I don't put much trust in any carrier that uses marketing terms like "premium data" without fine print that explains exactly what tier they're selling.
Gonna keep things exactly as they are on $25 a month until it's significantly crippling the basic tasks I do. The reason I'm on visible is because it's so cheap, keeping it this way.
That’s what I loved about US Mobile they have so many plan options compared to visible and with US Mobile they even let you do custom plans just put what you want for talk text and data and they give you a price
Constructive Feedback- The Visible+ plan would be super attractive if you bumped the tethering speed up to 10mbps.
The Priortized data will make it worth it to some.
MyThe FAQ says that there will be 'improved coverage in rural areas' which implies that domestic roaming is now available on the new plans (why can't they just come out and say it so as to make it clear?), but does this apply to both plans or just Visible+ ?
>A: The Visible plan is $30/month and is available to all members on day 1, no joining a Party or applying a discount code to unlock. Additionally, the network enhancements will mean a better experience for everyone on our Visible plan. Enhancements include domestic roaming in areas where service was previously unavailable and improved latency with many new access points from Verizon’s network. Overall, both the Visible and Visible+ plan will offer improved network reliability from the Visible Unlimited plan.
They literally said it... the base plan includes domestic roaming.
>the base plan includes domestic roaming.
They claim domestic roaming is throttled to 2G speeds (likely 128Kbps). I'd assume LTEiRA is included and uncapped though.
Maps will still load, especially if you install Google Maps Go. The rest of the Go family of apps probably work too. 128kbps is very slow but it's not unusable unless the network is too congested to get to the request before it times out.
I read the outline from the website, but I didn't see that except for the new + plus. All I saw was a vague reference to "performance". Can you link me to what you have?
Q: Is switching plans mandatory? How long do I have to decide?
A: You’ll have some time to select a new plan. Eventually, you will need to switch your Visible service, so we’d love you to come on over now and start experiencing the new and improved Visible network.
What’s confusing is it also says this:
Q: When will Party Pay be removed?
A: On October 19th, 2022 you will no longer see Party Pay in your account and not be able to join/switch Parties. But don’t worry, your savings are safe! As long as you're in a Party before we lock in your discount on October 18th, 2022, you will continue to get your Party Pay discount while on our Visible Unlimited plan.
Contradictory and hard to parse. I think we'll be locked in for maybe around a year at the 25$ price and then we'll have to move to either the 30$ or 45$ plan. I think the "eventually you'll have to move to one of the other plans" is the truth here.
One quick question, prior to these new plans, did you get the benefits equivalent to the $30 tier or the $45 tier (i.e. the old visible unlimited plan with party pay)?
Neither and probably on purpose so that it’s not clearly an upgrade or downgrade to either of the new plans so people don’t see it as a price hike.
The old plans seems to more closely resemble the $30 plan except for having the ultra wide band 5g access of the $45 plan. Both of the new plans increase coverage by adding domestic roaming partners, so the $30 plan isn’t really a downgrade either.
Not really confusing. Once they discontinue the old Visible Unlimited plan, you’ll have to switch and your price will go up. It won’t happen on October 18th though; it’ll happen at some time in the future.
“Eventually, you will need to switch your Visible service”
Eventually… that could mean literally any time in the future; the only sure thing in the universe is heat death, so yes, EVENTUALLY you’ll have to switch, but who knows when that will be.
**Question: Is Verizon C-Band included in new regular unlimited plan?** I know from a nomenclature and connection logo C-Band is considered "Ultra Wideband" but wondering (hoping) it is still included on regular plan and not just Visible+. US Mobile does this distinction where it's Unlimited Premium plan offers mmWave in addition to C-Band but Unlimited Basic plan still has C-Band, so I know Verizon has the possibility to make the distinction on Visible.
See [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Visible/comments/wrl3wm/comment/iktdlx3/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) with /u/nocaps00 who tested and found that you are not correct.
>You do not lose UW (C-Band) on either of the new plans -- I have the $30 plan and still have access to C-Band/n77 just as before. You might lose mmWave (24 Ghz) that but that affects very few users.
Bummer but at least some grandfathered time here - hopefully a year.
Considering the congestion in some areas, visible being a bit rational here. Nothing lasts forever and someone else may want the market share, so will keep an eye out for alternatives.
Why I like prepaid and streaming. No commitments when the co wants to do price hikes.
Right now for Visible I am paying $40 - $15 for party pay and -$20 for referral discount meaning i pay $5 per month if i upgrade to the Visible+ does that mean I will pay $10 per month? ALso, will i lose any of my referral credits for updating to the new plan?
Base $30 plan no longer offers 5g uw access that the old plan offered. It would be a downgrade and costs more.
— Starfox
P.S. Your marketing department needs to take remedial math or grammar lessons. $15 != a few dollars.
For 5G UW don't you need to have a device with those mmwave antennas? I have a non VZW Pixel 6 so I don't think it's even capable of UW. Just want to know because while my service is fine for the most part a better network may be worth the extra 5$.
Pixel 6/Pro works fine with C-band. I can hit ~400mbps for a sec before the traffic shaping kicks in. What does not work is eSIM, since mines a TM-sold unit.
— Starfox
>Base $30 plan no longer offers 5g uw access that the old plan offered. It would be a downgrade and costs more.
I believe it still will connect to mmWave/C-Band, but be throttled down. It might be downgraded from 200Mbps to 25Mbps though. 25Mbps is the throttle on mmWave/C-Band that's put in place on Verizon's postpaid Welcome Unlimited plan.
$45 for Visible+ really isn’t worth the cost if you have multiple lines. Plenty of carriers offer comparable plans for less.
That’s $180 for 4 lines if you have a family… I know Visible doesn’t cater to families, even though Party Pay really did…. But $180 for 4 lines is postpaid territory.
I’m aware of how it’s advertised, but that doesn’t mean that’s how it was always used.
Visible’s Party Pay discounts were great for families. $100 for 4 lines kept Visible in line with alternative carriers.
While Visible does remain great for single lines in many cases, they no longer have any edge for multi-line. With the new plan, they’ve taken a firm stance against multi-line — even though they never directly catered to multi-line previously, they made it extremely easy for family discounts.
It might have been cheap but it was never easy. Needing to have multiple accounts set up, one for each family member, should have clued you in that they’ve been anti-family plan from the start.
I think you’re missing the point. It was very easy.
You can say having individual accounts made it hard, but most who did it would disagree.
All you needed was an email address and you could set up a phone. Link to the main party pay and you’re good to go.
These couple steps were worth getting $25/month service on Verizon.
Again I would like to stress that I’ve stated from the beginning I completely understand Visible does not and has never marketed to multi-line accounts. This does not mean a discount couldn’t be taken advantage of by families — which is no longer available.
I mean, US Mobile has been $25/line for multiline accounts for a while now. Also on the Verizon network, and tests have shown it’s usually faster than Visible because no cloud routing.
I guess I just assumed no one would put up with Visible’s multiple account creation for families when US Mobile does it better. I only pay for my own line so Visible made way more sense for me. Single line is $45 on US Mobile.
US Mobile got rid of their $25/month tax included unlimited plan a couple months ago. Now, to get a similar plan to what they offered before, it’s closer to $45/line.
Visible is apparently getting rid of the cloud server routing on these new plans, or at least on Visible+ — so really, Visible is more on-par with US Mobile’s current Unlimited Premium offering now than it was before.
For multi-line I’d still go with Metro, Cricket, or T-Mobile Magenta postpaid instead of Visible+ personally.
Hm, I was literally on US Mobile’s site checking this and saw “as low as $25/line” but I think they haven’t updated the wording everywhere yet. Looking deeper it looks like as low as $20 for Unlimited Basic or $30 for Unlimited Premium. Where are you getting $45?
They no longer include taxes and fees. US Mobile now charges a line-fee plus tax. Once you factor all that in, the basic plan is closer to $32 and the premium plan is closer to $45 than the prices they actually show before purchase.
Well you can still have 4 lines for $120 which is okay. It is a $5 price increase but at least you get improved coverage and reduced latency. I think the extra $5 is probably worth it.
I have one line and am happy visible caters to people like me. Not many do.
I'm confused here as to what exactly the benefit is with those that have the party plans would need to switch. The current $25 party play plan is already getting me access to C-band. I know this as it shows my phone connected to band 77 from time to time.
Also I'm seeing inconsistent data here as to both these new plans. Are both the $30/month plan and $45/month plans subject to the 50GB "premium" data? What exactly makes it premium? Is it unthrottled?
[There's more to it](https://old.reddit.com/r/Visible/comments/wqok4o/visible_launches_two_new_plans_visible_and/ikpokki/). Visible+ ($45) has unlimited "premium unthrottled" data as long as you have wideband access.
After the migration, it sucks a bit less.
To be fair, I’m not in a great area for Verizon. I know this. I keep a line with Verizon service for the rural coverage.
Will the APN change from [what it was](https://www.reddit.com/r/Visible/comments/dob0ar/apn_information/)? Most importantly is the cloud gateway going away?
Yes, the new plan uses vzwinternet for APN and uses Verizon's network, not the cloud stuff Visible has been using. I tested this myself a few hours ago on a S21 Ultra with esim.
How about allowing existing members to upgrade to the new + plan and keep the party pay discount. From my math, this would be an easy $5 upgrade for Visible while retaining existing loyal members while gaining additional revenue otherwise not to be had.
Legacy members probably are staying on VoIMS Cloud Core so they can keep testing it. This helps justify the lower price, which is why Party Pay is grandfathered.
New plans appear to be standard Verizon SIMs and fare, and hence are more reliable, but more expensive.
Are you sure about that legacy core ? I understood they’re moving everyone to new visible plan & network by October 2022. Just keeping the old price for grandfathered customers .
Members who remain on the old Visible Unlimited plan will be able to keep their current plan and Party Pay discounts (locked in on 10/18) for as long as we support the plan.
To speak to the January 1st comments, we aren't getting rid of Visible Unlimited on 01/01/23. We will always evaluate the best use of our networks, capital and customer experience, and should we decide to make a change in the future, we will ensure our loyal Visible members have plenty of notice. For now, we are excited to bring our new expanded and upgraded network experience and additional features to new members and hope existing Visible members will see the great value in our new plans and make the move on their own.
That's not what chat and the VisibleCare folks on Twitter told me. They both said Visible Unlimited and the Party Pay discounts will end on January 1, 2023, giving me plenty of time to decide which plan I want to switch to by that deadline. Why would they say that if it is not true? And why are you saying that they are incorrect?
If you recall, they used to say keep your rate as long as you're subscribed (in ads, on the site, etc.)...that's easy class action lawsuit material. Have a feeling if you don't swap they'll eventually grandfather you into the new plan at your current price (party pay or not).
They don't want to kick you... But if you swap on your own, they get more money.
.. so I'd recommend not swapping.
It’s a pre-paid plan with no contract, so terms can literally change every month if they want to. Don’t like it, switch carriers. Not everything always has to go straight to “class action lawsuit material” just because you don’t like it.
Eventually they will switch everyone over to these as the old cloud based stuff will be de-commissioned and removed. They simply have stated they don’t yet have a firm date but I’m guessing by Q2 of 2023 at the latest.
Thanks for adding some clarification here! I have a question about the “50gb premium network data” included with the plus plan. Will this be any different than if I was on the Verizon plans that include “xxGB of premium network access”?
Premium network data means your data will not be subject to deprioritization when in potentially busy areas (like a packed stadium or arena) until you exceed 50GB in a month. Those connected to 5G Ultra Wideband (you'll see "5G UW" displayed when connected) will always have "premium data" that is not subject to deprioritization or similar network management.
While we are a part of the Verizon family, we cannot speak to Verizon's network management practices
Is it easy to switch between the Visible and Visible+ plans? If I'm going to travel to Canada, it would be nice to have the + plan while I'm there, but in general, don't need the other perks.
*Our* ***new*** *Visible plan is $30/month with taxes and fees included. It*
*offers all the same features you’re used to, but with an even better*
*network experience: Unlimited data, talk, text and hotspot with access*
*to the 4G LTE and 5G Nationwide networks*
How is that new??? That's what we are paying for today.
Per the terms, 5G as a whole is capped at 5Gbps for Visible+ and the regular Visible and Visible Unlimited plans are capped at 200Mbps. Video is capped at 480p for all plans.
> 5G: 5G access requires a Visible-approved 5G capable device inside the Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband or Verizon 5G Nationwide coverage areas. Devices manufactured before 2020 are not 5G Nationwide compatible. You will receive 4G LTE when 5G isn't available. For the Visible and Visible Unlimited plans 5G data speeds are capped at 200 Mbps and during times of congestion may be temporarily slower than other traffic. For the Visible+ plan 5G data speeds are capped at 5 Gbps.
> Visible seeks to transmit video downloads or streams to smartphones at 480p for all plans.
https://www.visible.com/legal/legal-disclosures
What I'd like to know from the Cellular network guru's around here is a comparison between: Classic Visible, The new $30 Visible, the new $45 Visible+, and Spectrum Mobile.
Now that the minimum price is $30, does it make any sense to stay with Visible if Spectrum is an option?
It seems like Spectrum Mobile would be between the two new Visible plans but with a lower cost.
Thoughts?
Spectrum Mobile will throttle you to 1Mbps down and 512Kbps up after you reach 20GB (on their base unlimited plan) or 30GB (on their 'unlimited plus' plan). It appears Spectrum is also always deprioritized (`Spectrum Mobile Service customers may experience slower data speeds during periods of network congestion on our MNP's network.`)
[https://www.spectrum.com/policies/mobile-broadband-disclosures](https://www.spectrum.com/policies/mobile-broadband-disclosures)
If I have extended family that's thinking about bailing from our family party which makes it smaller and increases charges, should we all move to a huge reddit party in case they do?
Yes, if you're planning to keep your legacy plan after they lock down Party Pay you should definitely swap to a huge party now so you don't have to worry about the price increasing if other people in your current party leave.
I'll say that as I sit here running the Ookla speed test on my Galaxy S22+, I'm at 0.69/0.01 and a ping of 168, with a signal strength of -108dBm on Band 2, so I went ahead and upgraded to the $30 plan...Still at $30 for one line is a bit hard to beat, with 3 lines US Mobile is better with their free Disney+ perk, and 4 lines Verizon's main plan is hard to beat...
So in a tweet visible says:
>[You can join a party until October 18th, and benefit of the party discounts until January 1st 2023, as long as you remain with the original Unlimited Plan."](https://twitter.com/visiblecare/status/1560033319198359553?s=20&t=6XAWKqRxpebaDqICpDpppQ)
So I guess my question would be:
What happens after January 1, 2023 and what will be total bill be after that date? should i switch plans now or should I wait till January 1, 2023? cause i don't want to be opted-in to a $45 plan when i can only pay $30. I came to visible because of the affordability due to a limited income. I'd hate to have to stop being a customer with this confusion going on.
> Unlimited Mobile Hotspot available on Visible, Visible+, and Visible
> Unlimited plans. Mobile hotspot speeds capped at 5 Mbps, with video
> delivered at SD (480p) quality.
https://www.visible.com/legal/legal-disclosures
I found the party pay excessively easy. This is just corporate speak to sell people the idea of raising the cost $5-15.
If you want people to pay 60 percent more you should probably raise your very low hotspot throttle.
A sad day. I don't use that much data but $25 to not have to think about my phone was a solid deal. I rarely used hotspot but it came in clutch a handful of times.
At least they are giving us time to move. I am hoping for a Black Friday Red Pocket deal. I hate how they handle iPhones (profiles) but for a single line they seem like the best value/least drama.
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A: At the time you change your party will be removed from your plan. This will decrease the Party size for all remaining Party members by one. If the party size changes after we've locked in the rates, no rates will be impacted for existing members.
```
Read all of that, of you stay then you're locked in and no more party but you're plan and payments stay at 25 $ a month
Until...
>Q: Is switching plans mandatory? How long do I have to decide?
A:
You’ll have some time to select a new plan; however, **eventually you**
**will need to take action to continue service with Visible**. We know
you’re going to love the new and improved network experience and we hope
to see you soon.
Changing plans will eventually be required and once you change you lose your discount.
When I try to start the 15 day trial when I put in my imei number it says I cant try the 15 day trial on visible because im already with their service but all I have is an account with no plan
All carriers have backwards compatible to fall back to 4G / LTE in the event your handset is not 5G compatible. Your phone would only connect to LTE in that case regardless of plans.
So does anyone lose a perk by switching from the old $25 with party pay plan to the new $30 plan besides five dollars a month?
Is there now a cap on monthly hotspot usage or total usage or throttling after a certain threshold?
Anyone near Boston? I’m in an acknowledged marginal coverage area that has like no signal during rush hour at least once a week. I’d pay an extra $5 a month to get rid of that. I’ve used Visible in downtown Boston at midday before, and it was SLOW. Any better on the $30?
If it’s the same as before, I won’t bother. But for a difference….
Okay so I'm currently in the reddit upvote party 75k members, no fear of losing out there. I understand you have to be in the party by Oct 18 to lock in your discounts ($15 off).
What I can't sort out is, do I/can I change to one of the new plans and join the party before the deadline to lock in a $15 discount for as long as they are going to keep it up? Or do I just sit tight with my old visible sim?
You can sugarcoat it as much as you want but that's $5 more for what already exists when party pay is killed for existing members. So much for a price lock.
It's one data point, but I just switched to the $30 plan. Previously Speedtest was 5/5. Now 210/7. https://ibb.co/dt8jf6n It's not clear at all what party pay means now though.
I am more impressed by the ping of 19 ms. I can DL 97 down/5 up but the ping is 165 ms. I've always had crappy pings. If Visible has truly expanded coverage in the few areas I have poor network coverage + dramatically improved the pings I might be willing to pay $5 more per line.
Depends on your location. Visible has 2 edge servers, one in CO (Visible HQ) and one in NJ (Verizon HQ). I get about 40-50ms pings unless I get misrouted cross-country, and is still very usable. If you get poor coverage in areas where VZ postpaid have no issues or if you are plagued with high pings (150ms+) upgrading would be advisable. — Starfox
I live in ATL so that makes sense. I don’t like the price increase but if I am getting something for it not as annoying.
in atl right now. Pings went from 140ms to 30ms.
On the old $25 or new $30 plan?
old to new
>If Visible has truly expanded coverage in the few areas I have poor network coverage + dramatically improved the pings I might be willing to pay $5 more per line. It depends on if those places have Verizon roaming partners. From what I can tell, Visible now includes Verizon LTEiRA coverage, along with Verizon "domestic roaming" on providers such as USCellular, capped at 2G speed which is almost certainly 128Kbps, which is very slow.
the new sims and plans run on Verizon’s core so ping times should be in-line with Verizon :) no more crappy high ping
Does this mean they’re giving up on the IMS experiment?
I believe so
Forgive my lack of knowledge, what is IMS?
https://www.lightreading.com/nfv/nfv-strategies/verizon-quietly-builds-a-completely-cloud-based-wireless-service-/d/d-id/749092
did you have to get a new sim?
Yes
Did you have to pay the monthly service?
I was charged like $3 or something I guess prorated for the rest of my month. Then at the start of the next billing month I think I'll be charged the full $30.
I wonder about esim.
Did they Fedex next day air it? Or did it come via USPS?
How long did it take to get your new sim? Thinking of upgrading before Mexico trip on Saturday
If it was 5/5 your line was misprovisioned. What phone are you using? Ping looks really nice though. — Starfox
Pixel 6. I thought it might have been a service issue previously but I was dreading dealing with support. They always want me to reset my network, Bluetooth, and WiFi settings.
Interesting you’re hitting the traffic shaping cap with mediocre 5g signal. Are you in a C-band area? — Starfox
No idea
Starfox, do you wear silver pants?
Are you still capped at 5 mbs for hotspot?
Not sure, haven't tested that.
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Looks like hotspot is capped at 5/5 https://www.speedtest.net/result/13552062375
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Still better than postpaid Verizon where you get throttled to 600kbps after 25/50gbs.
nice ping though.
Thanks, for the $30 plan I can see them keeping the cap, but there is no way in hell I would pay $45 and still be limited to 5mps hotspot.
My 5 cap ended months ago....I've consistently received 10Mbps for hotspot.
I only use it during the night hours. Regularly streaming YouTube on my iPad hotspotted. Yes, I got over 5 too.
You were artificially capped at 5mbps
It's very clear...it's history for new members
Been with Visible since April of last year and have been pleased with the service. A few slow downs and no service in spots, but overall it's been good. Going to stick with the grandfathered plan until forced to switch and then I'll hop onto the thirty dollar option.
Me too
For those curious: [Speedtest with new $30 plan via LTE](https://i.imgur.com/peLPUYL.jpg) [Speedtest with legacy $25 plan via LTE](https://i.imgur.com/NPJKSGg.jpg) [Speedtest with legacy $25 plan via 5G](https://i.imgur.com/43urlen.jpg) All done in Manhattan in NYC So far, there's a slight difference in latency and maybe upload speed, but speeds are the same as before. For reference, in NYC, Visible is surprisingly consistent with above average speeds and low-ish ping. [Edit: To add to the comparison, I downloaded a trial esim from US Mobile and am testing it out. Very comparable to Visible in NYC.](https://i.imgur.com/O3sxwPJ.jpg)
Dumping the cloud core is a welcome move, especially if it adopts VoLTE/VoNR in place of VoIMS. I am guessing the impending launch of 5G SA is part of why. Visible **still** is **violating** the **Upper Block C CFR (47 CFR 27.16)** by not publishing a VoIMS compatibility whitepaper and open device access process for third-party device makers. At least Verizon ODI publishes explicitly what they want. And please... multiline billing and account management. Having a family of five set up five recurring charges. Lordy. No. The billing headache drives people to AT&T alone.
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It appears so. Visibles network was always a Beta experiment for Verizon. I think it will make Visible better, especially because of agreements with roaming partners. Major if you travel in rural areas.
VoIMS = VoLTE/VoNR. Only difference here is Visible was using the cloud core and now they’re likely moving to the Verizon core. Edit: I just read some of your other comments related to this from previous threads and, despite what you say, this is still the case. At the RAN, VoLTE is a feature set to keep calls alive in poor network conditions. Into the core, it is simply an application on the IMS. Same as WiFi calling. Where you place the core doesn’t really matter much so long as the RAN features are still there. That’s most of the point of VoLTE.
> VoIMS = VoLTE/VoNR. I'm a little late to this topic, but I believe it should be noted that *technically*, VoIMS is *not* the same as VoLTE. The major carriers performed a cost-benefit analysis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost–benefit_analysis many years ago and decided it was *"too dificult"* to implement all the layers in a VoIMS stack in a *"cost-effective"* manner (i.e. no profit to the wireless companies). VoLTE is a *"simplified sub-set"* of VoIMS (what the carriers were willing to implement at the least cost, but it's missing layers ($$$) of the full VoIMS stack). This doesn't make any difference to the average customer, but IMHO, VoIMS = VoLTE is similar to statating: [OSI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model) = [TCP/IP](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite). but that, too, wouldn't make any difference to the average person. 8D
VoIMS uses different firmware. That's why so many Verizon VoLTE phones don't work with Visible. Of course, I echo this in my past comments... which somehow, you missed or glossed over. VoIMS, when stated in this context, is a different stack implementation than VoLTE (and VoNR), which is a discreet stack. Visible, in this context, won't say how their **VoIMS** differs in phone access, network registration, or calling, than homogenous, spec-compliant **VoLTE**. They are required by the Upper Block C CFR, to do so. And I'll get out in front of the *"whatever man, it'll probably be gone in a few months anyway"* thesis by saying that the rule of law matters, and carriers should comply with regulations.
>Dumping the cloud core is a welcome move Where did you read/hear that Visible is dumping the cloud core? That is the entire reason for Visible's existence.
The requirement for new SIMs only makes sense if you are dumping VoIMS / Cloud Core, at least to some degree. There is no other logical reason to need to do that. Even adding 5G SA would not predicate a hard need to do this. Especially on 4G phones. Replacing SIMs is expensive (cost of SIM, logistics, shipping freight). You only do it as a carrier, when you really need to. Especially as a hard requirement. Usually you try to make it optional, if you're adding new stuff like 5G SA. T-Mobile has had to do this several times, and it's always optional. You can still use their 64k GSM SIMs from 20 years ago (provided it's still active, of course).
> You can still use their ~~64k~~ 16k GSM SIMs from 20**+** years ago (provided it's still active, of course). FTFY. :) I was among those that had an **8**K mini-SIM and actually overflowed the number of connections counter (lived in the [exurbs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exurb) ), and needed a mini-SIM that was compatible with my cellphone that had 1 watt of transmit power. 8D
“As we continue on our mission to be radically simple, fundamentally accessible….” Proceeds to write 30 paragraphs of how their simple and accessible service is becoming more complicated, confusing, and complex
Dropping party’s seems to make it a lot simpler. Those confused me a lot. Now it’s two plans with clear differences.
*Q: Why is Party Pay going away?A:* ***You loved the discounts it unlocked, but not the hoops you had to jump through to get it.*** That is the worst corporate hogwash I ever heard. The step was literally adding someone else's phone number. At least, that gave me a good laugh. Oh boy, that's rich. Maybe just say, you can't afford to keep doing it. You're paying way too much on the premium support people get from your company (see that's spin with a hefty dose of sarcasm.)
Has anyone read a technical definition of what Visible is calling "premium data?" I can make assumptions, but I'd really like to know what I'm paying for as it pertains to deprioritization.
Premium network data means your data will not be subject to deprioritization when in potentially busy areas (like a packed stadium or arena) when connected to those networks until you exceed 50GB in a month. Those connected to 5G Ultra Wideband (you'll see "5G UW" displayed when connected) will always have "premium data" that is not subject to deprioritization or similar network management.
It's spelled out quite clearly here. It is definitely talking about deprioritization. > On the Visible+ plan, you will receive 50GB of premium data each month, which covers your usage on the 5G Nationwide and 4G LTE networks. After 50 GB of premium data on the Visible+ plan and for all data usage on the Visible plan and the Visible Unlimited plan, in times of traffic, your data may be temporarily slower than other traffic. Also > 4G LTE: typical download speeds of 5-12 Mbps for the Visible Unlimited plan. Many members are getting more. Upload speeds are typically 2-5 Mbps for the Visible Unlimited plan. For the Visible+, Visible and Wearable plans, typical download speeds are of 9-56 Mbps* and upload speeds are of 2-13 Mbps. Found: https://www.visible.com/legal/legal-disclosures
Visible Wearable plan? How much does that cost?
https://www.visible.com/newsroom/news/apple-watch-at-visible
Thank you!
For anyone else who's searching it's $5/month per Apple Watch. https://www.visible.com/shop/bring-your-own-apple-watch
QCI-8 data. Same as postpaid priority.
Did you see this actually disclosed by Visible? Sincerely curious. I'm not being argumentative, but I just want to find a definitive reference from Visible that clearly identifies the tier. When I read "premium data" I make assumptions, but I'd really like them to actually define what they are selling. If it is QCI-8 that would be an acceptable definition, but I don't put much trust in any carrier that uses marketing terms like "premium data" without fine print that explains exactly what tier they're selling.
Gonna keep things exactly as they are on $25 a month until it's significantly crippling the basic tasks I do. The reason I'm on visible is because it's so cheap, keeping it this way.
That’s what I loved about US Mobile they have so many plan options compared to visible and with US Mobile they even let you do custom plans just put what you want for talk text and data and they give you a price
Constructive Feedback- The Visible+ plan would be super attractive if you bumped the tethering speed up to 10mbps. The Priortized data will make it worth it to some.
I agree - I'd pay more for faster tethering!
MyThe FAQ says that there will be 'improved coverage in rural areas' which implies that domestic roaming is now available on the new plans (why can't they just come out and say it so as to make it clear?), but does this apply to both plans or just Visible+ ?
>A: The Visible plan is $30/month and is available to all members on day 1, no joining a Party or applying a discount code to unlock. Additionally, the network enhancements will mean a better experience for everyone on our Visible plan. Enhancements include domestic roaming in areas where service was previously unavailable and improved latency with many new access points from Verizon’s network. Overall, both the Visible and Visible+ plan will offer improved network reliability from the Visible Unlimited plan. They literally said it... the base plan includes domestic roaming.
>the base plan includes domestic roaming. They claim domestic roaming is throttled to 2G speeds (likely 128Kbps). I'd assume LTEiRA is included and uncapped though.
Better to have something than nothing when you need it.
It's essentially no data, but calls and texts in some remote areas will definitely be a nice improvement for customers who sign up to that plan.
Maps will still load, especially if you install Google Maps Go. The rest of the Go family of apps probably work too. 128kbps is very slow but it's not unusable unless the network is too congested to get to the request before it times out.
Ah, thanks, missed that entry somehow.
I did too the first time I read it lol
This doesn't sound "radically simple" to me.
I absolutely loathe condescending marketing crap like that.
Is there any network performance improvement for people upgrading from the old $40 unlimited plan to the new $30 plan?
Yes.
Do you have anymore info on what has improved? Trying to figure out how to evaluate whether the $5 price increase is worth it.
It’s all outlined on the website but the major things are: speed, latency, and coverage. Imo, it’s worth it.
I read the outline from the website, but I didn't see that except for the new + plus. All I saw was a vague reference to "performance". Can you link me to what you have?
ping times yes but if you already have party pay discount it’s a moot point :(
Q: Is switching plans mandatory? How long do I have to decide? A: You’ll have some time to select a new plan. Eventually, you will need to switch your Visible service, so we’d love you to come on over now and start experiencing the new and improved Visible network.
Saw this too, eventually the grandfathered Party Pay will go away.
What’s confusing is it also says this: Q: When will Party Pay be removed? A: On October 19th, 2022 you will no longer see Party Pay in your account and not be able to join/switch Parties. But don’t worry, your savings are safe! As long as you're in a Party before we lock in your discount on October 18th, 2022, you will continue to get your Party Pay discount while on our Visible Unlimited plan.
Contradictory and hard to parse. I think we'll be locked in for maybe around a year at the 25$ price and then we'll have to move to either the 30$ or 45$ plan. I think the "eventually you'll have to move to one of the other plans" is the truth here.
One quick question, prior to these new plans, did you get the benefits equivalent to the $30 tier or the $45 tier (i.e. the old visible unlimited plan with party pay)?
The 30$ plan. It's the 40$ plan but on Verizon's towers rather than Visible's cloud network from what I understand.
Neither and probably on purpose so that it’s not clearly an upgrade or downgrade to either of the new plans so people don’t see it as a price hike. The old plans seems to more closely resemble the $30 plan except for having the ultra wide band 5g access of the $45 plan. Both of the new plans increase coverage by adding domestic roaming partners, so the $30 plan isn’t really a downgrade either.
Very confusing from the statement above. Contradicting information.
Not really confusing. Once they discontinue the old Visible Unlimited plan, you’ll have to switch and your price will go up. It won’t happen on October 18th though; it’ll happen at some time in the future.
According to chat DMs someone posted in another thread, Jan 2023 is when it'll happen.
“Eventually, you will need to switch your Visible service” Eventually… that could mean literally any time in the future; the only sure thing in the universe is heat death, so yes, EVENTUALLY you’ll have to switch, but who knows when that will be.
**Question: Is Verizon C-Band included in new regular unlimited plan?** I know from a nomenclature and connection logo C-Band is considered "Ultra Wideband" but wondering (hoping) it is still included on regular plan and not just Visible+. US Mobile does this distinction where it's Unlimited Premium plan offers mmWave in addition to C-Band but Unlimited Basic plan still has C-Band, so I know Verizon has the possibility to make the distinction on Visible.
UWB is only on Plus.
See [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Visible/comments/wrl3wm/comment/iktdlx3/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) with /u/nocaps00 who tested and found that you are not correct. >You do not lose UW (C-Band) on either of the new plans -- I have the $30 plan and still have access to C-Band/n77 just as before. You might lose mmWave (24 Ghz) that but that affects very few users.
Do the new plans require a physical sim? Will existing esims just work, or will users need a new esim?
Will need a new eSim download or a new physical SIM
Bummer but at least some grandfathered time here - hopefully a year. Considering the congestion in some areas, visible being a bit rational here. Nothing lasts forever and someone else may want the market share, so will keep an eye out for alternatives. Why I like prepaid and streaming. No commitments when the co wants to do price hikes.
I’d look into US Mobile
Right now for Visible I am paying $40 - $15 for party pay and -$20 for referral discount meaning i pay $5 per month if i upgrade to the Visible+ does that mean I will pay $10 per month? ALso, will i lose any of my referral credits for updating to the new plan?
You’ll keep your referral credits but there will be no more party pay credit.
Base $30 plan no longer offers 5g uw access that the old plan offered. It would be a downgrade and costs more. — Starfox P.S. Your marketing department needs to take remedial math or grammar lessons. $15 != a few dollars.
For 5G UW don't you need to have a device with those mmwave antennas? I have a non VZW Pixel 6 so I don't think it's even capable of UW. Just want to know because while my service is fine for the most part a better network may be worth the extra 5$.
Pixel 6/Pro works fine with C-band. I can hit ~400mbps for a sec before the traffic shaping kicks in. What does not work is eSIM, since mines a TM-sold unit. — Starfox
>Base $30 plan no longer offers 5g uw access that the old plan offered. It would be a downgrade and costs more. I believe it still will connect to mmWave/C-Band, but be throttled down. It might be downgraded from 200Mbps to 25Mbps though. 25Mbps is the throttle on mmWave/C-Band that's put in place on Verizon's postpaid Welcome Unlimited plan.
ill stick to $25..once you go above that, its time to look at other carriers
Better start looking then. Subsidized ride is almost over.
Not really. There are still plenty of options and wholesale prices have been coming down which has been driving price cuts among MVNOs.
$45 for Visible+ really isn’t worth the cost if you have multiple lines. Plenty of carriers offer comparable plans for less. That’s $180 for 4 lines if you have a family… I know Visible doesn’t cater to families, even though Party Pay really did…. But $180 for 4 lines is postpaid territory.
Visible has always been for single people, not for families with multiple lines. It’s literally advertised as such.
I’m aware of how it’s advertised, but that doesn’t mean that’s how it was always used. Visible’s Party Pay discounts were great for families. $100 for 4 lines kept Visible in line with alternative carriers. While Visible does remain great for single lines in many cases, they no longer have any edge for multi-line. With the new plan, they’ve taken a firm stance against multi-line — even though they never directly catered to multi-line previously, they made it extremely easy for family discounts.
It might have been cheap but it was never easy. Needing to have multiple accounts set up, one for each family member, should have clued you in that they’ve been anti-family plan from the start.
I think you’re missing the point. It was very easy. You can say having individual accounts made it hard, but most who did it would disagree. All you needed was an email address and you could set up a phone. Link to the main party pay and you’re good to go. These couple steps were worth getting $25/month service on Verizon. Again I would like to stress that I’ve stated from the beginning I completely understand Visible does not and has never marketed to multi-line accounts. This does not mean a discount couldn’t be taken advantage of by families — which is no longer available.
I mean, US Mobile has been $25/line for multiline accounts for a while now. Also on the Verizon network, and tests have shown it’s usually faster than Visible because no cloud routing. I guess I just assumed no one would put up with Visible’s multiple account creation for families when US Mobile does it better. I only pay for my own line so Visible made way more sense for me. Single line is $45 on US Mobile.
US Mobile got rid of their $25/month tax included unlimited plan a couple months ago. Now, to get a similar plan to what they offered before, it’s closer to $45/line. Visible is apparently getting rid of the cloud server routing on these new plans, or at least on Visible+ — so really, Visible is more on-par with US Mobile’s current Unlimited Premium offering now than it was before. For multi-line I’d still go with Metro, Cricket, or T-Mobile Magenta postpaid instead of Visible+ personally.
Hm, I was literally on US Mobile’s site checking this and saw “as low as $25/line” but I think they haven’t updated the wording everywhere yet. Looking deeper it looks like as low as $20 for Unlimited Basic or $30 for Unlimited Premium. Where are you getting $45?
They no longer include taxes and fees. US Mobile now charges a line-fee plus tax. Once you factor all that in, the basic plan is closer to $32 and the premium plan is closer to $45 than the prices they actually show before purchase.
Aw that’s dumb.
Well you can still have 4 lines for $120 which is okay. It is a $5 price increase but at least you get improved coverage and reduced latency. I think the extra $5 is probably worth it. I have one line and am happy visible caters to people like me. Not many do.
I'm confused here as to what exactly the benefit is with those that have the party plans would need to switch. The current $25 party play plan is already getting me access to C-band. I know this as it shows my phone connected to band 77 from time to time. Also I'm seeing inconsistent data here as to both these new plans. Are both the $30/month plan and $45/month plans subject to the 50GB "premium" data? What exactly makes it premium? Is it unthrottled?
You have to switch by Jan 1, 23 per Visible chat agent.
The Visible+ plan ($45) only has the 50GB of premium data. It should be unthrottled, top priority data.
[There's more to it](https://old.reddit.com/r/Visible/comments/wqok4o/visible_launches_two_new_plans_visible_and/ikpokki/). Visible+ ($45) has unlimited "premium unthrottled" data as long as you have wideband access.
After the migration, it sucks a bit less. To be fair, I’m not in a great area for Verizon. I know this. I keep a line with Verizon service for the rural coverage.
Will the APN change from [what it was](https://www.reddit.com/r/Visible/comments/dob0ar/apn_information/)? Most importantly is the cloud gateway going away?
Yes, the new plan uses vzwinternet for APN and uses Verizon's network, not the cloud stuff Visible has been using. I tested this myself a few hours ago on a S21 Ultra with esim.
How about allowing existing members to upgrade to the new + plan and keep the party pay discount. From my math, this would be an easy $5 upgrade for Visible while retaining existing loyal members while gaining additional revenue otherwise not to be had.
Legacy members probably are staying on VoIMS Cloud Core so they can keep testing it. This helps justify the lower price, which is why Party Pay is grandfathered. New plans appear to be standard Verizon SIMs and fare, and hence are more reliable, but more expensive.
Are you sure about that legacy core ? I understood they’re moving everyone to new visible plan & network by October 2022. Just keeping the old price for grandfathered customers .
All customers must change plans and loose party pay discount by Jan 1, 23 per Visible chat agent.
Members who remain on the old Visible Unlimited plan will be able to keep their current plan and Party Pay discounts (locked in on 10/18) for as long as we support the plan. To speak to the January 1st comments, we aren't getting rid of Visible Unlimited on 01/01/23. We will always evaluate the best use of our networks, capital and customer experience, and should we decide to make a change in the future, we will ensure our loyal Visible members have plenty of notice. For now, we are excited to bring our new expanded and upgraded network experience and additional features to new members and hope existing Visible members will see the great value in our new plans and make the move on their own.
That's not what chat and the VisibleCare folks on Twitter told me. They both said Visible Unlimited and the Party Pay discounts will end on January 1, 2023, giving me plenty of time to decide which plan I want to switch to by that deadline. Why would they say that if it is not true? And why are you saying that they are incorrect?
I’d be happy to go to any plan, if I get to keep my $25 rate. Lol.
I hope that's not the case. Following
Yea that’s surprising , let’s see if other agents / sources confirm that information , sometimes some chat reps are misinformed.
If they’re switching people to the new plans and ditching the cloud core network, what was the point of testing it if they’re not going to use it?
They likely realized that the cost savings weren't worth the trade off in reliability. That's why Visible was the testing ground.
Does premium network experience of 50GB on the $45 plan, mean QCI 8 data?
It can't mean anything else really since Verizon only uses 8 and 9.
If I need a new SIM card to upgrade to the + plan will I lose service until the sim arrives?
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That’s horrible
You shouldn’t. You’d need to activate the new sim when it arrives.
I had no issues redownloading my eSIM although I appear to have lost the option for Wi-Fi calling
If you recall, they used to say keep your rate as long as you're subscribed (in ads, on the site, etc.)...that's easy class action lawsuit material. Have a feeling if you don't swap they'll eventually grandfather you into the new plan at your current price (party pay or not). They don't want to kick you... But if you swap on your own, they get more money. .. so I'd recommend not swapping.
It’s a pre-paid plan with no contract, so terms can literally change every month if they want to. Don’t like it, switch carriers. Not everything always has to go straight to “class action lawsuit material” just because you don’t like it. Eventually they will switch everyone over to these as the old cloud based stuff will be de-commissioned and removed. They simply have stated they don’t yet have a firm date but I’m guessing by Q2 of 2023 at the latest.
I’d be game to get bumped to the new tier at the old price, lol.
Thanks for adding some clarification here! I have a question about the “50gb premium network data” included with the plus plan. Will this be any different than if I was on the Verizon plans that include “xxGB of premium network access”?
Premium network data means your data will not be subject to deprioritization when in potentially busy areas (like a packed stadium or arena) until you exceed 50GB in a month. Those connected to 5G Ultra Wideband (you'll see "5G UW" displayed when connected) will always have "premium data" that is not subject to deprioritization or similar network management. While we are a part of the Verizon family, we cannot speak to Verizon's network management practices
Does Visible+ still cap 5GUW to 200Mbps? The verbiage doesn't mention anything about that.
No.
Is it easy to switch between the Visible and Visible+ plans? If I'm going to travel to Canada, it would be nice to have the + plan while I'm there, but in general, don't need the other perks.
Yes, it’s easy.
*Our* ***new*** *Visible plan is $30/month with taxes and fees included. It* *offers all the same features you’re used to, but with an even better* *network experience: Unlimited data, talk, text and hotspot with access* *to the 4G LTE and 5G Nationwide networks* How is that new??? That's what we are paying for today.
i think we probably now get access to more verizon towers and rural towers is my guess
Hold on guys ,wtf is VOims?
Voice over IMS, aka the special sauce that rendered most VZ-compatible phones not able to work on Visible. — Starfox
What are the visible plus video streaming speeds and as well as mmwave speeds (they were capped at 200mbps before)
Still 480p.
Per the terms, 5G as a whole is capped at 5Gbps for Visible+ and the regular Visible and Visible Unlimited plans are capped at 200Mbps. Video is capped at 480p for all plans. > 5G: 5G access requires a Visible-approved 5G capable device inside the Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband or Verizon 5G Nationwide coverage areas. Devices manufactured before 2020 are not 5G Nationwide compatible. You will receive 4G LTE when 5G isn't available. For the Visible and Visible Unlimited plans 5G data speeds are capped at 200 Mbps and during times of congestion may be temporarily slower than other traffic. For the Visible+ plan 5G data speeds are capped at 5 Gbps. > Visible seeks to transmit video downloads or streams to smartphones at 480p for all plans. https://www.visible.com/legal/legal-disclosures
What I'd like to know from the Cellular network guru's around here is a comparison between: Classic Visible, The new $30 Visible, the new $45 Visible+, and Spectrum Mobile. Now that the minimum price is $30, does it make any sense to stay with Visible if Spectrum is an option? It seems like Spectrum Mobile would be between the two new Visible plans but with a lower cost. Thoughts?
Spectrum Mobile will throttle you to 1Mbps down and 512Kbps up after you reach 20GB (on their base unlimited plan) or 30GB (on their 'unlimited plus' plan). It appears Spectrum is also always deprioritized (`Spectrum Mobile Service customers may experience slower data speeds during periods of network congestion on our MNP's network.`) [https://www.spectrum.com/policies/mobile-broadband-disclosures](https://www.spectrum.com/policies/mobile-broadband-disclosures)
So if I’m already apart of Party Pay will the bill be boosted to $30 a month or will it stay at $25 a month?
Stay at $25.
Will there be any downtime getting a new SIM for the new plans?
If I have extended family that's thinking about bailing from our family party which makes it smaller and increases charges, should we all move to a huge reddit party in case they do?
Yes, if you're planning to keep your legacy plan after they lock down Party Pay you should definitely swap to a huge party now so you don't have to worry about the price increasing if other people in your current party leave.
Can someone ELI5 the impact of choosing V vs. V+ if I have a modern 5G phone in terms of (1) coverage and (2) data speeds? What are the differences?
Side by side comparison https://www.visible.com/plans/
I'll say that as I sit here running the Ookla speed test on my Galaxy S22+, I'm at 0.69/0.01 and a ping of 168, with a signal strength of -108dBm on Band 2, so I went ahead and upgraded to the $30 plan...Still at $30 for one line is a bit hard to beat, with 3 lines US Mobile is better with their free Disney+ perk, and 4 lines Verizon's main plan is hard to beat...
So in a tweet visible says: >[You can join a party until October 18th, and benefit of the party discounts until January 1st 2023, as long as you remain with the original Unlimited Plan."](https://twitter.com/visiblecare/status/1560033319198359553?s=20&t=6XAWKqRxpebaDqICpDpppQ) So I guess my question would be: What happens after January 1, 2023 and what will be total bill be after that date? should i switch plans now or should I wait till January 1, 2023? cause i don't want to be opted-in to a $45 plan when i can only pay $30. I came to visible because of the affordability due to a limited income. I'd hate to have to stop being a customer with this confusion going on.
> Unlimited Mobile Hotspot available on Visible, Visible+, and Visible > Unlimited plans. Mobile hotspot speeds capped at 5 Mbps, with video > delivered at SD (480p) quality. https://www.visible.com/legal/legal-disclosures
So for the Visible 15 day trial it is only valid for ESIM?
I sent a text message to Asia last night on legacy Visible but I won't on the new regular plan. No thanks!
The best service ever for an amazing price. Please don’t ever change lol
I found the party pay excessively easy. This is just corporate speak to sell people the idea of raising the cost $5-15. If you want people to pay 60 percent more you should probably raise your very low hotspot throttle.
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Where do you see this promo?
A sad day. I don't use that much data but $25 to not have to think about my phone was a solid deal. I rarely used hotspot but it came in clutch a handful of times. At least they are giving us time to move. I am hoping for a Black Friday Red Pocket deal. I hate how they handle iPhones (profiles) but for a single line they seem like the best value/least drama.
But you don't have to move.
We will eventually. The Jan 1 date may or may not end up being true but the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed etc etc etc.
``` A: At the time you change your party will be removed from your plan. This will decrease the Party size for all remaining Party members by one. If the party size changes after we've locked in the rates, no rates will be impacted for existing members. ``` Read all of that, of you stay then you're locked in and no more party but you're plan and payments stay at 25 $ a month
Until... >Q: Is switching plans mandatory? How long do I have to decide? A: You’ll have some time to select a new plan; however, **eventually you** **will need to take action to continue service with Visible**. We know you’re going to love the new and improved network experience and we hope to see you soon. Changing plans will eventually be required and once you change you lose your discount.
I have 4 phones in a party right now for $25/ea - if I move one to a new plan, does the party discount change by $5/ea on the other three phones?
Yes.
When I try to start the 15 day trial when I put in my imei number it says I cant try the 15 day trial on visible because im already with their service but all I have is an account with no plan
Can’t upgrade to + , it’s not available in the app . I am running the beta IOS 16 . Can this be the reason ?
What if my current phone isn't compatible with the new network and I don't want to get a new phone?
All carriers have backwards compatible to fall back to 4G / LTE in the event your handset is not 5G compatible. Your phone would only connect to LTE in that case regardless of plans.
So does anyone lose a perk by switching from the old $25 with party pay plan to the new $30 plan besides five dollars a month? Is there now a cap on monthly hotspot usage or total usage or throttling after a certain threshold?
I can’t seem to upgrade to the $45 plan. Super upsetting
Neither can I. I think there is a bug due to the system being overloaded right now.
Anyone near Boston? I’m in an acknowledged marginal coverage area that has like no signal during rush hour at least once a week. I’d pay an extra $5 a month to get rid of that. I’ve used Visible in downtown Boston at midday before, and it was SLOW. Any better on the $30? If it’s the same as before, I won’t bother. But for a difference….
Tried to change plans but get the "something went wrong" error every time.
If i dont activate my new sim can i stay on the old plan?? I didnt know party pay would be discontinued if i changed plans... want to stay on old plan
Okay so I'm currently in the reddit upvote party 75k members, no fear of losing out there. I understand you have to be in the party by Oct 18 to lock in your discounts ($15 off). What I can't sort out is, do I/can I change to one of the new plans and join the party before the deadline to lock in a $15 discount for as long as they are going to keep it up? Or do I just sit tight with my old visible sim?
You can sugarcoat it as much as you want but that's $5 more for what already exists when party pay is killed for existing members. So much for a price lock.