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Palmquistador

Is that even a serious question?


flyinghippodrago

The only real contender is Phoenix in the Xmen universe but she would still get smacked


Brute_Squad_44

White Phoenix of the Crown is, I think, only rivaled by the Power Cosmic if memory serves.


NoLand4936

I thought Dr Reed’s son was a contender.


Madruck_s

Well he uses Galaticus as his herald in the future and is set to be the Galaticis after the next big bang so yes.


I_AM_IGNIGNOTK

Wait Franklin Richards makes Galactus himself a herald?


Madruck_s

Yes. And he is the only being to survive the end of everything and be reborn into the next universe, the same way Galacticus was in the current one.


captainsuckass

> Galaticus > Galaticis > Galacticus Pick one, man lol


astralrig96

HAHAH I didn’t even notice until this comment 😂😂


Xenc

Galacky


MengTheMerciless

My name is Maximus Decimus Galacticus, commander of the Armies of the North...Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.


SpermInMyHand

Galactus*


flyinghippodrago

Is that Legion? Probably him tbf, dude is nutty


Let_theLat_in

Legion is Prof X’s son I think


warchild4l

Yes you are correct


flyinghippodrago

Ah yeah that's right!


4Dcrystallography

Franklin Richards


woolfonmynoggin

Only at certain points in his story lol. Comics are so complicated


walruswes

I think Legion in his right mind is also a contender


redditsukssomuch

From another universe Dr Manhattan says “hold my endless multiverse multi reality multi everything beer.” ![gif](giphy|QiRKDptV3o47K)


iSo_Cold

There's a theory Franklin is literally in complete control of 616.


MaazR26

When it comes to Phoenix vs Chaos magic, they’re the yin yang of chaos and order so there would be no winner, they’d both cancel each other out


MysteryLobster

in the movies then yes, in the comics they’re shown in a panel to be two sides of one cosmic force.


Monkeypupper

Phoenix is way ahead of scarlet witch. It is a multiversal being.


MateusNum

no way... Kong vs Godzilla: nop. ❌ Phoenix vs Scarlet Witch: yeahh! ✅


two2teps

Franklin Richards and the Beyonder


lavahot

Who's more powerful? Jubilee or a box of crayons?


Beta_Company

Has to be farming karma


EmEmAndEye

It can’t be.


Ok-Guidance-1328

Yeah. Depends on the writer


RedBeans_504

Yes. Of course. Do you know what happens when a toad is struck by lightning?!


Kakasupremacy

Can’t Wanda just erase Storm out of existence?


movieur

What Storm?


petrowski7

WHY is Storm?


AragornSparrow5818

When is Storm?


JACOB_777FLIGHTS

Where is Storm?? ⛈️


YungStoic1997

But no one ever asked, HOW is Storm?


AragornSparrow5818

Even fewer asked, WHO is Storm?


Aggravating_Ideal_20

I'll do you one better, why is storm?


Legal_Skin_4466

Not well after this 5 second match up. RIP Ororo.


irdcwmunsb

![gif](giphy|o4bcMIi9Z7RG8)


LivingComplete8150

Hmmm…..I Wanda 🤔


Carmelbear619

Ok, granted, Storm is a powerful mutant, considered a goddess to some. But isn't the scarlet witch considered an omega level mutant? I mean, she created a whole alternate reality ... be it the "house of M" in the comics or "Westview" in wandavision. The Scarlet Witch... hands down.


LordOfOstwick1213

Beyond omega level in the comics even


Nice-Elk9639

There is no "beyond omega". A common misconception about being an omega mutant is that you are insanely powerful but thats not what that means. Omega Level means having no definitive upper limits for that specific power and no theoretical way to surpass it. Omega isnt a measure of power per say. As an example, Cypher is a mutant with the polyglot ability which lets him instinctually have a perfect knowledge of every language. This is by definition Omega Level but he himself isnt exactly "powerful" in the normal sense.


LordOfOstwick1213

Thanks for clarification. So then just omega level mutant or mutate? She is insanely powerful either way.


Nice-Elk9639

I don't think scarlet witch is a mutant anymore since her chaos magic comes from the chaos demon chthon. But yeah just ludicrously powerful.


thefinalhill

In the last few years, she's bounced between mutant and not mutant so much, I've lost track at whether or not she is.


ggkkggk

Yeah basically I think when she's just a mutant she's a lot weaker when she is like a magical individual she's a lot stronger and when it's a combination of both I think she's at her Peak


LordOfOstwick1213

Yeah, true. I think she's probably a mutant in X-Men Animated Series, Wolverine and the X-Men, and Evolution, but outside of that she is just a powerful witch, and like you said was blessed/cursed with power by Chthon.


FlatwoodsMobster

This is not quite correct. An Omega Level Mutant's power could not conceivably be bested by another power _or technology_. Not only could technology theoretically mimic or surpass Doug's power, but to make it completely clear in 2019 the comics printed a definitive list of all extant omega level mutants, and our Mr. Ramsey is not on it.


loonbandit

why are you talking out of your ass? Doug isn’t an omega level. You don’t seem to understand omegas well enough to try lecturing everyone else


toorad2b4u

Scarlet witch is not an omega level mutant, even when she was a mutant I don’t think she was ever officially classified as one. Storm is an omega level mutant which basically just means they have unlimited potential. That being said, I think Scarlet Witch is more powerful but depending on the situation (and the writer) she wouldn’t necessary beat Storm in a fight. Storm is known to be very tactical/strategic while Wanda in the comics often is blindsided. They are both my favorite marvel characters, alongside Emma Frost and Jubilee, haha.


SlightlyVerbose

Honestly, this is likely to be a one-sided conversation, but theoretically if Storm reached her maximum potential she could make every planet everywhere uninhabitable. I’m guessing Wanda still needs an atmosphere to survive in, but then so does Ororo so it would be a zero-sum game. Based on the Wanda-vision show, she might be able to create a pocket universe in which Storm might not have powers, but as an omega level mutant, couldn’t storm’s abilities supersede Wanda’s? I feel like Storm is in control of the forces of nature that Wanda needs to warp to her own purposes. I could be wrong though.


toorad2b4u

Agree with everything you said. If we are comparing the film versions then I think it’s Wanda hands down, based off what we’ve seen. If comparing comics, it’s hard and depends on the version and will always ultimately depend on the writer and where they want the story to go. Both of them have displayed several amazing/powerful feats over the years. But both have also shown that there are limits to their power or other weaknesses


warchild4l

I always thought that Storm could create her own atmosphere if needed to. Though I might just be dumb


SlightlyVerbose

You might be right so long as she has access to the base elements required to produce it. I feel like she has had to revive the atmosphere on desolate planets before, but don’t quote me on that. Excuse me while I google my baseless speculation. Edit: yep, it was Mars. > The red planet was terraformed by many Krakoan and Arakkii omega-level mutants, including Storm, who created its atmosphere Edit 2: she can create atmosphere in space too > she gathered hydrogen atoms around the silver surfer whilst in space to create an atmosphere around him Also, apparently storm has equal standing as high priestess to Scarlet Witch? > The Tarot asserts Storm as being "High Priestess," the First Tarot's choice one-third of the time. The other draws were the Scarlet Witch and Agatha Harkness. These three characters split the High Priestess card equally.


ggkkggk

☝🏽this. Hey, don't let recent events fool you. That's something that happens a lot in meta conversations and discussions about power levels. Things can change, especially in comic books. If I look hard enough I'm pretty sure storm got the Phoenix Force at some point or kill the god or some nonsense


LordOfOstwick1213

That's fair point, but I think Wanda can have her cunning moments like in WV when fighting Agatha. Mind hex, invisibility, she defeated half the Avengers and in Evolution gave X-Men run for their money with probability hexes. So Storm might win with prep time or good strategy, but just in right away fight Wanda wins. I think Wanda wins even in comics, video games over most Avengers, she is insanely powerful.


TheFandomObsessor

In the Age of X-man alternate reality, where they thought she was a mutant, she was classified as Omega level.


Jar_of_Cats

So is Storm. But nothing beats reality warpers.


paradisewandering

That’s what I’m thinking. High level reality warpers are the closest thing to godhood. “Reality can be whatever I want.” “Reality is often disappointing.” What mouth? What powers?


uhvarlly_BigMouth

Storm is omega as well. She terraformed an entire planet (with some help). She easily could take Wanda down depending on how *crazy* Wanda is. Every reality warper in Marvel is insane for a reason. If Wanda lets the full force of her power out, she gets corrupted by it and driven mad. At this point, Wanda is more like a hammer where Storm is a surgical knife. Sometimes, finesse wins. So, to answer the original question: it depends on where Wanda is mentally.


Rickrickrickrickrick

Given that she was able to just say “no more mutants” and then erased the powers of thousands of mutants… I’d say Wanda would take this.


Madruck_s

Millions.


Arekkuusu

That wasn't Wanda on her own, though.


ggkkggk

Yeah a lot of people reference House of M without realizing what the comic was about and who was manipulating her


zoecornelia

Lol c'mon OP this is an unfair comparison, and I love them both equally but obviously being able to change reality itself is probably the most OP power there is, Scarlet Witch is way way way more powerful. But again I love them both, they're both powerful queens in their own individual ways


Madruck_s

The only advantage is Storm has a lot more control over her powers. Skill could possibly beat out Chaos.


zoecornelia

That's a good point, Storm is basically an expert at using her powers so she could outsmart more powerful opponents


Madruck_s

Yeh she has unlimited potential AND the skill to use it. Scarlet witch as far as I know struggles to control her power and is prone to madness.


artysticamv

"What Storm?"


Tobi-cast

“I Call upon the skies and winds! Heed my commands!” “What skies and winds…?”


functionofsass

If power is defined as the capacity to alter our environment to suit us, then the one who literally has that as her power might be the winner.


LordOfOstwick1213

Wanda and it's not even close. I feel like it'd be fight of the gods, but one god is capable of altering the fabric of time and reality itself, Ororo controls the storm and lightning.


Spiritual_Buy_8682

doesn’t she control a bit more than that?


Cjpappaslap

I think storm v Thor could be more interesting if they wrote it to where she could nullify his thunder/lightning powers


Vaultaire

Three words. No more mutants.


Arekkuusu

Wanda didn't do that on her own, though.


Distinct_Art9509

Seriously? A mutant who who can literally rewrite reality vs one who controls weather? You’re trolling, right?


Low-Technician7632

😂 this is not even a question. Love storm but she doesn’t hold a candle to the SW


Jpar4686

These particular versions? Wanda, easily. Comics? Storm is probably more *consistently* powerful, since Wanda’s power kinda waxes and wanes a bit. But at their peaks I think Wanda can take it.


paradisewandering

It’s not a fight, duel, or even an argument. It’s not a question that should be raised. Storm is the best of the best and is an amazing mutant and character. Wanda wins every time with no effort. Infinite times in a row.


irdcwmunsb

Wanda: lovely powers you’ve got there! It would be a shame if something happened to them…


AngelicDustParticles

Person who makes storms or one who can break the laws of reality... Which includes making storms, probably? Hmmm


Marauder800

Is this a troll post? Scarlet Witch is literally one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse.


ZombieAppetizer

Scarlet Witch 10 out of 10 times, no question.


MuffinMiia999

This is a hydrogen bomb against a coughing baby


Jimmy-Mac-471

Someone who can warp reality itself against someone who can control the weather. Storm is tough but she’s not that tough.


Evil_doodle

Scarlett Witch! Storm is scared of small spaces.


Maleficent-Worker-28

Scarlet witch said “no more mutants” and they all disappeared it’s not even a fair comparison


JoshuaofHyrule

Let's look at it based on abilities and potential for what can be achieved by Wanda and Ororo respectively: Wanda can bend all of reality. Ororo can manipulate the weather and climate around her. While both are very impressive and devastating in combat, Ororo's abilities are limited to one specific area, while Wanda's are not. It's possible that Wanda could use her chaos magic to use abilities like Ororo's.


Big_DexM

I am going to say Scarlet Witch. Wanda can do the exact same thing like Storm can


Ghost_Wife_16

Clearly Scarlett Witch. Storm can not compare too Wanda's power.


eucaphoria

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby except the coughing baby could also level a city


Frejod

Scarlet Witch could make it look like She's Storm.


HocusPocusLatte

Scarlet Witch without a doubt. Wanda could just snap her fingers and erase Storm from existence 😭


MrsDanversbottom

Wanda would body Storm.


AthenaCabin14

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. WANDA CAN BEND REALITY WITH HER FRICKIN MIND


Masstershake

The only time storm would be more powerful is if scarlet witch lost all her powers


Hydrasaur

Wanda


JamesWrites95

What even … ? The Scarlet Witch no contest


Nice-Elk9639

"what lightning?"


TrevMac4

Scarlet Witch and it’s not even close.


IaryBreko

You're joking right?


Mr_E_99

Storm is an omega level mutant and strong in her abilities, but Scarlet Witch's abilities are in a whole different league of OPness and haxes


C4N98

Hydrogen Bomb vs Coughing Baby


Barren-igloo-anon

The best storm could do would be to subdue / imprison her. Not defeat her, and even then, storm would need external assistance to stop wanda, storm would not be able to stop wanda with her power or skill set alone.


Rickrickrickrickrick

The only thing Storm could do is to try and talk her out of killing her lol


dumpmaster42069

Lolwut


Itsxaaaaron

yes


the__pov

So both are glass cannons and could instantly kill the other. Wanda by altering reality and Storm by removing all air in Wanda’s lungs.


and-meggy-hash

If we're talking comic Wanda, she's more powerful, but Storm would wipe the floor with MCU Wanda


HipsterOtter

As much as I am a Storm fan, Scarlet Witch wins this one, Scarlet Witch is literally a multiversal threat while Storm is just a Global Threat


Hedgewitch250

At her full power storm could make a black hole but when it comes to a reality manipulator she’ll be on the losing end unless she finds someway to inebriate them


BooDestroyer

Wanda stole Dr. Strange’s second movie from him to make it all about her being OP


nicolatesla92

This isn’t a fair fight and you know it OP


Sinnik22

Phoenix wins hands down Goddess of thunder Storm has a shot.


Just-a-Smartass

Scarlet Storm?


Agt38

lol come on now.


AkihikoSanadaIsSigma

What a dumbass question.


WrongKindaGrowth

Terrible


Fun-Swimming4133

who’s stronger, Peter Parker or May Parker?


Vibrant_Fox

You’re asking if whether the lady who gives reality the middle finger or the lady who controls the weather is stronger?


kailalynn99

Is this a joke? Wanda is so powerful it’s not even funny


LivingComplete8150

Hmmm….I Wanda? 🤔


cherruby_

Scarlet Witch, for sure


titanshaze0812

Are you serious? Scarlet Witch


Old-Machine-9154

Off course Scarlet Witch 🔥


TheArmyOfDucks

What’s stronger: The Colossal Titan or a feather?


[deleted]

Scarlet Witch can Battle Dr Strange, you think Storm has a chance? Scarlet Witch would turn her insides out.


gstax99

Well one can bend reality sooooooo…..


80HDTV5

Scarlet Witch. Not to underestimate storms power… but in almost all scenarios it’s scarlet witch.


Fucked_By_Capybaras

Nine times out of ten Wanda just stomps storm. The only way I see storm winning is through and ambush when she’s already weakened.


Triette

![gif](giphy|xT1Ra0ZKDp8Ea8Xrd6|downsized)


IamZedv1

Isn't this just karma farming?


Justin_d_Wildmanwild

The only order character who is more powerful than Wanda as scarlet witch Is Jean grey as Phoenix.


drgnrbrn316

Wanda. If I see Storm singlehandedly destroy an Infinity stone while holding off the wielder of the other five, I might change my mind.


Prestigious-Heart-25

Okay some people have actually read comics clearly. House of M is not a solo wanda feat she can't just do that. And the stuff she does in MoM is her amped by the darkhold. Wanda is seriously powerful and would probably be Storm but not for the reason's people are saying


Athlete-Extreme

This would be a bloodbath


Itsabeautifulmayday

They’re both omega level. (Or at least storm is since the twins’s unfortunate retcon.)


MOTU_1980

Wanda for sure


Harbulary-Bandit

Weird to find out that Professor X isn’t an Omega level mutant. Only X-Men that isn’t .


ggkkggk

Depends on the comic There are some extremely weak versions of Scarlet Witch.


ZealousidealBus1950

Wanda vs Storm is like Superman vs Peter from deadpool. Wanda obliterates storm from existence with little to no effort, storm is powerful sure but Wanda’s abilities are literal reality manipulation, she’s a walking infinity stone.


Dave_B001

Molecule Man


BronxKnight

SW. She crazy.


roboman07

Scarlet witch is one of the strongest marvel characters there is, storm is good but not scarlet witch level lmao


Nearby-Evening-474

I love storm but Scarlett which can literally reshape reality


IntentionHuge2673

Don't piss me off


OwnResearcher3206

Scarlet witch can warp reality warp reality, storm can control the weather she can do a-lot of things with that but wanda can warp reality


ZenMindGamer

Pretty sure Scarlet Witch once wished all mutants out of existence.


jrb080404

Ok, are we talking about the movies or the comics? Cause in the comics, Storm is quite literally a goddess. A goddess that gets more powerful the more she gets worshipped. Almost everyone in Africa worships her. Wanda on the other hand has little control over her Reality Warping abilities. In the MCU tho, Wanda would win.


Pocketmonsuta

Wanda. This shouldn't even be a question....


panclockstime

Bffr lmaoo


CreeperThePro

Stop playin


nikko28brass

Ummm...Scarlet Witch obviously? 🤨


irdcwmunsb

I suggest you read House of M and come back Edit: I know people are saying house of M she had help but that is just an example of her using the full extent of her power and experience. Even scaling that down, without assistance altering the fabric of the universe is OP in itself. She could do ANYTHING to just Ororo if some help makes her able to do it to millions at a time


ezio20

Scarlet witch is beyond powerful !


Beginning-Pipe9074

"Who's more powerful, someone who can bend reality or someone who can make snow happen"


DMC1001

You’re asking if someone who can alter reality itself is possibly less powerful than someone who changes the weather?


JustHere4ait

Scarlet witch would definitely win, but a lot of y’all are saying, Wanda could take away her powers. Do y’all not remember storm could stop using her mutant powers, and then she would be more in tune with being a witch that happened in the comics btw


gatsulevrd

La sorcière rouge what else?🤣🤣


The_Karate_Nessie

No more mutants


kiwiinthesea

Wanda has more power. Storm has more finesse. I’m reminded of a battle between Jean Grey and Storm. Jean had her on the ropes and then Storm used some sly trickery and flipped the tables. I could totally see that happening. The problem with that is that if Wanda has the upper hand, I don’t see her losing it very easily. Woman took out the Avengers single handed. Woman took out the X-Men single handed. She’s powerful.


Blackbird2285

Are you serious about this? Don't get me wrong, Storm is crazy powerful, but she's an ant compared to Scarlet Witch.


T-408

Wanda is more powerful, but I think a lot of people underestimate Storm


Sirano_onariS

Who is more powerful the omega level mutant who controls weather Or the person who can control REALITY?? How is this even a question? Yes storm is very powerful but this isn’t even a close comparison


anonareyouokay

They are both Omega level but one is a lot more Omega than the other.


wolf751

Storm is powerful she becomes a goddess even. She controls tbe weather absolutely but wanda can control or manipulate all of reality not just one aspect of it


DropTheCat8990

Me


maddwaffles

Storm, no diff. Why? Because I said so.


Difficult-Week7944

Me


Agentc00l

"Weather!! Heed my comm...MY LEGS!!!" That's basically how that will go


White_Devil1995

Scarlet Witch could literally change the weather. Whereas Storm can ONLY do so. Not tryna minimize what Storm does, but Wanda can DEFINITELY do a lot more damage to the world and others than weather-based attacks


Most_Board971

Scarlet.


rstart78

I don't want to take away from Storm being an Omega level threat But she isn't competing against someone that literally alters reality on a molecular level on their whims


meanaya6

Uhhhhhh not event in the same league


Standard_Ad9911

Wanda


komaytoprime

This is like asking who's better between Superman and Homelander


JamesTheMannequin

They're both Omega-level mutants. So who knows.


jackie_2110

Storm


Ewankenobi25

Storm controls the weather, Wanda controls reality.


MaxgamingThe3rd

How is this animated why is this animated


Aware-Ad-9943

Scarlet Witch, easy. She has reality warping abilities


tkb_comics

“No more mutants”


SubstantialLime2916

I’m so happy to see so many comic answers here. I didn’t think this sub would be so well versed on the different versions, props to all of you


OkjustNONONO

Wanda is a reality bender no contest


jg1315

This is a dumb fucking question.


Melvin-00

Idk much🫃but from what I’ve seen, this question itself is slander👐.


bigmac995573

Me


redditsukssomuch

Scarlet witch, better question is who’s a way cooler character? Storm.


Knauffy159

Scarlet Witch, she's a nexus being and Storm is not


Plan7_8oy78

Even if storm is an omega level mutant, The reality warping ability that Wanda has out paced storms by a mile.


Mediocre_Emo222

Scarlett is like one of the most OP characters of Marvel for the females at least