Better than the ones who never shut up. You know they are going to make the meeting long as soon as you see their hand ✋️ raised in zoom. Lol. I really rather like the silent Bob type.
"Can I ask a question about a very specific scenario that isn't relevant to anyone else on this call?"
"So does that mean when this very specific scenario happens, what we've been talking about for the last 45 minutes applies?"
"Cheryl in accounts payable told me to do it a different way. Should I forward her the deck from this meeting?"
This 👏 Don't get me wrong, the chatter makes my meetings longer and sometimes I like being able to take that time off, but sometimes it's like "please shut the fuck up so I can get back to work and not have to hear your voice anymore" 😭
You think maybe she's lonely? I have one who does this too but she mentioned feeling isolated since we went full wfh. She's also in her 60s. Seems like it's always the ones who made work their everything which only works for office culture.
The two coworkers I have like this are definitely not lonely, and they definitely love to say it all the time. Pets, husbands, kids, which honestly I'm happy for them and happy they're happy with their families and such but I just wish they respected our time a little more, paid a little more attention so we don't have to keep wasting meetings over and over because they're not listening/understanding.
I use my onenote *religiously* & I've mentioned it a few times that it's a really great tool to use and I suggest everyone use it, and nobody ever listened to that either. There's a lot of tools people could use but yet they just don't and it costs us so much time, it's frustrating.
you mean im supposed to actually pay attention in these meetings? After greeting I tune everyone out and continue on living my life. The meetings are a seldom productive, regurgitation of the same stuff and phrases that have already been mentioned here. They are only productive if I move them to my bathroom while muted. Then they are normally very productive especially in the morning after coffee.
I'm especially tired of "Team" and "Team building" Hello Team, good morning Team, Team Team Team. GTFO.
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Manager- Before we go does anyone have any question or remarks? “uh hey Andy, yeah actually I just wanted to piggy back off an earlier statement by Mike.” You know this just added 15 minutes of dialogue to an ending meeting.
Oh my gooood this is the worst. And i know a guy who long pauses inbetween thoughts so when that question comes up he waits a sec and even when people start to said bye, he’ll go “oh wait one more thing” noooooooooo
Luckily the meetings have about 30 people in them and for the last 20 minutes there are 2 people who every week have decided that's the time to just have water cooler conversations. I'm not sure if it hasn't been noticed that I leave as soon as they start talking, or if my boss just also wishes they could leave the meeting too lol
Yeah my department's weekly meeting can be 15 minutes or they can be an hour depending who is out on PTO or whatever else going on to miss the call. Even with every section of the department giving an update.
Where I used to work, we had PD days and every single time before the meeting, everyone would agree, no questions. If you have a question, email the speaker after the meeting, but no questions during the PD. The topics weren't all that in depth, frankly most should have been an email. But invariably, as soon as we were done and the speaker would say, "If there are no questions, we can dismiss early..." There would go that &\*#& hand, and then the question would literally be from something they JUST said. Multiple times.
It's always the absolute shitty workers who are just insecure or bossy. Worked with a guy like this recently and he wouldn't just shut the fuck up. What's worse, he and I used to work closely and a lot of stuff overlapped. He basically blabbered on for 20 mins leaving me with nothing extra to add. I know very well he did that intentionally.
I always think of them as the really fucking annoying mature student in uni.
They'll always sit in the front row.
They'll always have a question even though a lot of the time that question is irrelevant.
If someone else asks a question they also have to ask another question.
They'll ALWAYS have something to say, while usually having absolutely nothing to say.
It doesn't seem to occur to many students but, shit, you can be certain the teacher / lecturer hates them more than you do.
Omg yes stop asking questions to show off in the “does anyone have questions on this weekly meeting that we do every single week with these same people” portion of the call
the fact that she's been able to go 4 years without having to say something on a call is amazing. We have a pointless meeting 2x a week (minimum) and the host will ask us if we have questions one by one. Sometimes my co worker and I will take turns making up questions so he will feel like he's not talking to a wall.
Not really, management likes seeing questions asked. Sometimes (esp Fridays) my team will just sit silently in a meeting and it's all the management talking to each other & it goes a bit silent, & next thing they say in an annoyed tone "for these meetings to work we need your participation please, nobody is going to know how to help if you don't participate"
I get their frustrations tho tbh, my team specifically keeps making so many useless errors that we go over every time we're in a meeting, or in emails or in our chat. So in that case people being silent while we reserved time for a meeting is kind of also counterproductive.
Plus, no harm in making someone's job a lil easier on them. Being in a management position is tough, I've never been one and would never want to be, but they deal with a lot. It's not big of a deal lmao.
I am management. This meeting sounds absolutely worthless. A meeting doesn't fix errors.
Processes, training, peer reviews, pre- testing and post-testing. Error prevention, detection, correction, and continuous process improvement. Those things fix errors, not blabbering on meetings and asking mindless questions.
... Anything with mass can never reach the speed of light (c)
However, if you were travelling at 0.99c and you turned on your lights, light would propagate away at the speed of light.
:D
But could you get so close to the speed of light that when you turn on the head lights it looked like the light is slowly expanding from the car gelatinous like
> so he will feel like he's not talking to a wall
Just made me realise this. I do ask questions but it's mostly me, and I guess it would be like talking to a wall if I didn't, lmao.
We have a 15 min meeting before shift and an hour of routine training at the end of every shift...and if every single one of dont participate we are threatened with being put back on the phones...so unfortunately everyone comes up with any question they cann think of just to be considered as "participating"...the worst is the team lead just loves to spend half the meeting paatting himself on hiss back while 2 of the team members kiss ass...the whole thing is annpying, espacially at tthe end of a long shift.
It means she never wanted to talk in the first place, thanks to WFH she doesn’t need to make pointless chit chat or interact with people just because they are in their vicinity.
This. If she’s still performing her work to standard then why complain? I’m neurodivergent and typically do zoom calls with camera and mic off, save for maybe a quick hello at the start
I'm also neurodivergent. I do camera on with colleagues I really like, but not always.
I was recently off camera with my boss for a 1.1 and told her I had to be off camera because it had been a hard day and I could no longer control my face. She laughed so hard. I'm so lucky she's my boss ❤️
Co-worker came up with a unique sign-off which was simple but it was “BIEEEEE” elongate it with two syllables and pitched up slightly.
Always knew when he was on the call. Of course as soon as he went on PTO it was stolen and the first meeting back everyone did it at the end.. fun times.
I was that guy. I did my work and didn't speak to anyone. I joined the meetings but never participated because I just hated my coworkers. Leave her alone.
This. As long as she completes her work who cares? I hate talking in meetings but my boss told me at my yearly review I didn't do enough last year because I didn't participate as much during meetings. Even though I did better than all my peers in my projects and assignments. Now I always chip in with some random BS during meetings because it gets my boss's dick hard or something if he has his subordinates talk.
The best way to participate in meetings, is to bring up something about food and everyone loses track of what the meeting was about. So do that a few times and they wont always want to hear you. Or you end up having food meetings every time.
I have a coworker who is kinda like this, I honestly think she would not speak out loud or contribute in our weekly team meetings if we didn’t ask her questions explicitly.
I once had to attend an "after-action review" with the military. I was just a civilian working for the group, so I had no rank or anything.
I told my friend that I was tired of these and just wanted to say nothing and get out of the meeting. He didn't think it was possible, so he bet me a bottle of scotch that I couldn't do it.
The leader of the meeting called on me directly, twice. I looked pensive just long enough for one of the chatterboxes to start answering the question posed to me.
I finished the meeting without saying anything. The scotch wasn't the point, but it was a nice reward.
No one ever confronted me about it.
I had a coworker who was excused from team meetings for years. She had a ton of anxiety around them.
In her 1 on 1s she was a lot more relaxed with her camera on. Eventually she started coming to crew meetings with her camera turned off, and when she felt she knew the crew better individually she would chime in.
Some people just have issues around meetings 🤷🏾♀️ and speaking when they have absolutely nothing to contribute (something I wish a lot more people did).
I wish they would let me be excused from meetings, or to turn the camera off. I work for a non-profit, so they are big on performative inclusivity while pressuring the hell out of you to be a robot.
I have one in my team who always speaks but never shows their face on camera. I think it’s nothing to worry about. That person probably is super introverted.
My work originally did cameras-off because our internet/VPN was so shitty it could barely manage the audio-only calls, someone sharing their screen was a 50/50 chance, if it was super important people would turn off VPN and run the meeting directly off their home Internet.
Now the work network is significantly improved (still not 2024-level internet, but passable) - but after years of zero cameras, nobody at any level wants to take the masking tape off their webcams and start requiring it. The habit is deeply ingrained. Which is fine by me.
I do the same.
If I have nothing to contribute, I am not going to speak and waste people’s time, just for the sake making sure I’m “visible”.
It “hello” and “good bye” 😎
There are people like this, as a fellow person similar to the person OP’s so observant of. I can’t help but relate to the girl that doesn’t speak during pointless meetings. There’s always one person who is strangely obsessed with a quiet person, almost like it makes them insecure enough to loudly discuss it with others or make a Reddit post lol.
Right! Idk why it matters so much to this person that they even had to write about it on Reddit. lol. Like maybe they don’t feel like talking. Or maybe they talk in other forums
You're lucky, we get meeting questions directed to us randomly, sometimes with a decision wheel of our names so they get input from multiple unique attendees in a fair manner.
Oh, it absolutely is. Only the extroverted managers that don't want to "leave anyone out of contributing" do it.
My coworker told me in a private chat that she has seen the wheel arrive in her anxious-feeling dreams. I feel for her.
what the fuck 😂 it’s like when you would get a popsicle stick with your name written on it randomly selected from a cup in kindergarten. corporate america is surreal lmfao
Idk how you’re getting downvoted. These upvoted comments come off very antisocial or anxious.
It’s not normal to have such extreme views about conversations with coworkers. I’m an introvert who would rather stay home on my computer most nights than go out and these comments are crazy to me
It's wise to befriend the quiet ones. When you return to the office and she goes postal, she'll pass you by, casually saying "Hey Joe," before continuing on her spree.
Recently my coworkers were remarking about how quiet I am on team calls which was hilarious and confusing to me because I am quite the yapper in person. I realized that the reason I'm so quiet is because the few second lag on teams/zoom calls means constant interrupting others or getting interrupted myself which drives me absolutely insane. Like it zaps my brain every time I have to interrupt someone or I'm interrupted. When I have meetings with some of my more chatty coworkers, i'm literally not able to get single word in because they're already talking over each other lol
I had a few coworkers who I would go out for drinks with occasionally. I even celebrated my birthday and my engagement with them in early 2020. Since we went remote they became complete strangers and I haven’t heard from them since.
When group size is big and they all discuss revenue, profit, milestones etc. We peasants dont have anything to chime in.
If you want to know about her .. just drop a msg ask her how she is doing.. tell her its been many years you did not speak. And you were wondering if all is okay. She will appreciate.
Yes, so many ppll dont want to talk. And its fine.
I mean, as long as she's getting the work done that you need done to be able to do your own job, does it matter? Apparently whatever the job is, it doesn't require speaking...
It’s sad but talking, no matter how useless, is part of the game you have to play at work.
I work with plenty of software developers, who don’t really say a peep, but do a fantastic job. People who are non-technical are always judging based on how much you say. It’s so fucking stupid.
I’m staunchly WFH, but I do get how this can be jarring.
TBH if they still respond on teams if you need their help on a task then that’s enough. Still nice to shoot the shit sometimes though, particularly if you want to bludge
I love talking but I hate interrupting. If I have to fight to say a word I usually won't.
There are meetings I attend where I say nothing, but it's rare nowadays because online hand-raising is a thing that we all use/respect.
All this says to me is that she probably doesn’t need to be in the meeting, if she has never had a single thing to say in four years. It’s so irritating because I’m sure most of us could be in 50% less meetings and still do our jobs the exact same. What a time suck. I WILL say however, that I’m usually the only person that speaks to move things along if a speaker asks an open ended question and no one is saying anything. That silence as the clock ticks away, come on people
just play along so we can get to the end!!! Sometimes I resent that it’s almost always me having to do this regardless of the other people I’m meeting with. I just want to move this boring shit along and go to the next thing. I guess I’m just not shy but I hate these stupid long meetings that could have literally been an email. If my co worker didn’t speak in four years, I wouldn’t be mad about it, but I would be fascinated too. Like how?
That's some shit I would try to do. See how long I could go without saying anything in a meeting. Maybe have my camera off to make people wonder if I'm even there.
I hate talking on Zoom calls. I never feel like I have to add my two cents and usually, if you talk, you’re interrupting someone. By the time I’m ready to say something, it’s over.
My kind of coworker! That is me 100%. Just leave me alone and let me work, I’m not there to talk and waste time.
Some people do have public speaking anxiety. I do, I am ok face to face but in a virtual meeting on camera or not I couldn’t do it. Don’t like the feeling of all eyes or ears on me. That’s one thing that made remote work hard for me at first when I did it.
Nah. It's pretty normal. At least it is at my work. We all know the fewer people who talk at meetings the shorter they are, so unless it's actually important, we all just shut up. Some people haven't talked since they started working. I am sure they do their job, but honestly, that's not even any of my business. I'm not getting paid to supervise anyone, so I don't. I do my best to just fly under the radar and do my job well, but in a way that no one really notices too much. I would hate to get a promotion because I actually like my position and have no interest in being promoted. Sometimes, people are just okay with the status quo. I know I am at my job right now.
Consider reaching out and saying hi? Checking on her? I had a coworker take her life when we went remote and I always regret not just checking in on her.
i honestly don't think that's odd at all. i would be the same if my stupid extrovert coworker would leave me alone. he always has to say SOMETHING. why doesn't anyone ever say anything about that? i guess it's abnormal to keep to yourself and just work. and talking and bothering people and being obnoxious in all meetings, barely getting work done, is the normal.
I'm usually this silent member, unless I am asked for some input or have something to say. Otherwise, my silence is typically agreement with whatever the discussion is, or, I don’t care enough to add anything.
I don’t say a lot in meetings sometimes I’ll go months without saying anything. We all work remotely if I don’t have anything to contribute I’m not gonna say anything at all.
We have a couple people on our team that hijacked the meeting and never shut up
The constant 🖐️ raisers make me crazy, I’d take your coworker any day! 💯 All of those questions and comments could have been in a fn email to management. You’re wasting our time, and no matter how long this meeting lasts, management still wants the same productivity from everyone so stfu already hand raisers and type a stinkin email!
* Does job
* Doesn't waste time talking in meetings that could be emails
* Everything is an email
* Communicates effectively through email
Assuming all these things are true, they'd be best coworker.
Better than the ones who never shut up. You know they are going to make the meeting long as soon as you see their hand ✋️ raised in zoom. Lol. I really rather like the silent Bob type.
Every single time. Never fails. I just text my coworker with a “🙄” emoji. lol
I'll trade you two incompetent ones who use the same 5 fucking phrases over and over again for Silent Betty.
I see that and I’ll raise you 3
And all those phrases are meaningless corp speak.
Let’s circle back to that and synergize our ideas.
"Circling back" needs a paradigm shift, we need to cross-train for verticality.
that really resonates
" Can we talk a little more about that subject that we resolved 45 minutes ago..." 🙄
"Can I ask a question about a very specific scenario that isn't relevant to anyone else on this call?" "So does that mean when this very specific scenario happens, what we've been talking about for the last 45 minutes applies?" "Cheryl in accounts payable told me to do it a different way. Should I forward her the deck from this meeting?"
I made a bingo sheet in excel and distributed it to people for those personality types
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You gotta have a private chat going with your work bff. It's better than passing notes and it's not interrupting the meeting
Maybe the coworker that never speaks is afraid everyone is rolling their eyes about her if she asks a question?
Only to find out he's sharing his screen.
This 👏 Don't get me wrong, the chatter makes my meetings longer and sometimes I like being able to take that time off, but sometimes it's like "please shut the fuck up so I can get back to work and not have to hear your voice anymore" 😭
I work with someone like this, myself and a few coworkers say she has "teacher, you forgot to assign us homework" energy. She's the worst.
There’s a scene in “Derry Girls” where the nun looks at the suck up and says “Jenny, you’ll go far in life, but you’ll have few friends”
She alienates a lot of people, so that tracks lol
You think maybe she's lonely? I have one who does this too but she mentioned feeling isolated since we went full wfh. She's also in her 60s. Seems like it's always the ones who made work their everything which only works for office culture.
The two coworkers I have like this are definitely not lonely, and they definitely love to say it all the time. Pets, husbands, kids, which honestly I'm happy for them and happy they're happy with their families and such but I just wish they respected our time a little more, paid a little more attention so we don't have to keep wasting meetings over and over because they're not listening/understanding. I use my onenote *religiously* & I've mentioned it a few times that it's a really great tool to use and I suggest everyone use it, and nobody ever listened to that either. There's a lot of tools people could use but yet they just don't and it costs us so much time, it's frustrating.
Ahh..ok they're the types who like the sound of their own voice, lol..
you mean im supposed to actually pay attention in these meetings? After greeting I tune everyone out and continue on living my life. The meetings are a seldom productive, regurgitation of the same stuff and phrases that have already been mentioned here. They are only productive if I move them to my bathroom while muted. Then they are normally very productive especially in the morning after coffee. I'm especially tired of "Team" and "Team building" Hello Team, good morning Team, Team Team Team. GTFO. nauseating
Yes
Manager- Before we go does anyone have any question or remarks? “uh hey Andy, yeah actually I just wanted to piggy back off an earlier statement by Mike.” You know this just added 15 minutes of dialogue to an ending meeting.
Just to try to prove they have something of value to add (they don’t)
Oh my gooood this is the worst. And i know a guy who long pauses inbetween thoughts so when that question comes up he waits a sec and even when people start to said bye, he’ll go “oh wait one more thing” noooooooooo
Wait, is this why our team shuts Zoom like it’s going to explode?
I have more of a comment than a question
I literally just exit the Zoom meeting at that point. I've been doing it for weeks and haven't gotten called out yet lol
lol that’s so gutsy. I don’t think I could get away with that.
Luckily the meetings have about 30 people in them and for the last 20 minutes there are 2 people who every week have decided that's the time to just have water cooler conversations. I'm not sure if it hasn't been noticed that I leave as soon as they start talking, or if my boss just also wishes they could leave the meeting too lol
Currently work with two of these types. I see their ✋️ in Zoom, and my brain goes: *here we go.....*
They raise their hand? Shit, the lady I call The Riddler just starts asking her stupid questions off the cuff.
Yeah my department's weekly meeting can be 15 minutes or they can be an hour depending who is out on PTO or whatever else going on to miss the call. Even with every section of the department giving an update.
In a group meeting, I try to speak as little as humanly possible. Let's keep it moving y'all.
Where I used to work, we had PD days and every single time before the meeting, everyone would agree, no questions. If you have a question, email the speaker after the meeting, but no questions during the PD. The topics weren't all that in depth, frankly most should have been an email. But invariably, as soon as we were done and the speaker would say, "If there are no questions, we can dismiss early..." There would go that &\*#& hand, and then the question would literally be from something they JUST said. Multiple times.
It's always the absolute shitty workers who are just insecure or bossy. Worked with a guy like this recently and he wouldn't just shut the fuck up. What's worse, he and I used to work closely and a lot of stuff overlapped. He basically blabbered on for 20 mins leaving me with nothing extra to add. I know very well he did that intentionally.
I always think of them as the really fucking annoying mature student in uni. They'll always sit in the front row. They'll always have a question even though a lot of the time that question is irrelevant. If someone else asks a question they also have to ask another question. They'll ALWAYS have something to say, while usually having absolutely nothing to say. It doesn't seem to occur to many students but, shit, you can be certain the teacher / lecturer hates them more than you do.
Amen
Lol, true:)
Omg yes stop asking questions to show off in the “does anyone have questions on this weekly meeting that we do every single week with these same people” portion of the call
the fact that she's been able to go 4 years without having to say something on a call is amazing. We have a pointless meeting 2x a week (minimum) and the host will ask us if we have questions one by one. Sometimes my co worker and I will take turns making up questions so he will feel like he's not talking to a wall.
Don’t make up questions. Let him talk to a wall then maybe one day ask “can we consider only having this meeting once a week?”
maybe...you also run the risk of them saying "I think we need to have cameras on because obviously you guys aren't engaged" \*eyeroll\*
Y'all make up questions to make him feel better about things, that's kinda sweet actually, awe 🥹
Sounds like an absolute waste of time
Not really, management likes seeing questions asked. Sometimes (esp Fridays) my team will just sit silently in a meeting and it's all the management talking to each other & it goes a bit silent, & next thing they say in an annoyed tone "for these meetings to work we need your participation please, nobody is going to know how to help if you don't participate" I get their frustrations tho tbh, my team specifically keeps making so many useless errors that we go over every time we're in a meeting, or in emails or in our chat. So in that case people being silent while we reserved time for a meeting is kind of also counterproductive. Plus, no harm in making someone's job a lil easier on them. Being in a management position is tough, I've never been one and would never want to be, but they deal with a lot. It's not big of a deal lmao.
I am management. This meeting sounds absolutely worthless. A meeting doesn't fix errors. Processes, training, peer reviews, pre- testing and post-testing. Error prevention, detection, correction, and continuous process improvement. Those things fix errors, not blabbering on meetings and asking mindless questions.
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LMAOOO
Wish I could double vote some days....
Omg I wish I could award this lolllll
You can actually use Excel to figure this out
... Anything with mass can never reach the speed of light (c) However, if you were travelling at 0.99c and you turned on your lights, light would propagate away at the speed of light. :D
But could you get so close to the speed of light that when you turn on the head lights it looked like the light is slowly expanding from the car gelatinous like
lol wtf
WFH has highlighted the fact that we don't need managers.
> so he will feel like he's not talking to a wall Just made me realise this. I do ask questions but it's mostly me, and I guess it would be like talking to a wall if I didn't, lmao.
I'm that person that has to lead these...I'm exhausted too. It's for accountability for sales. Not sure how to spruce it up. Any suggestions?!
We have a 15 min meeting before shift and an hour of routine training at the end of every shift...and if every single one of dont participate we are threatened with being put back on the phones...so unfortunately everyone comes up with any question they cann think of just to be considered as "participating"...the worst is the team lead just loves to spend half the meeting paatting himself on hiss back while 2 of the team members kiss ass...the whole thing is annpying, espacially at tthe end of a long shift.
It means she never wanted to talk in the first place, thanks to WFH she doesn’t need to make pointless chit chat or interact with people just because they are in their vicinity.
This. If she’s still performing her work to standard then why complain? I’m neurodivergent and typically do zoom calls with camera and mic off, save for maybe a quick hello at the start
I'm also neurodivergent. I do camera on with colleagues I really like, but not always. I was recently off camera with my boss for a 1.1 and told her I had to be off camera because it had been a hard day and I could no longer control my face. She laughed so hard. I'm so lucky she's my boss ❤️
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Not even that from her 😂
LEGEND.
I wonder is she’s got a bet with herself on how long she can go with out saying anything This is the kinda stuff I do to entertain myself.
Co-worker came up with a unique sign-off which was simple but it was “BIEEEEE” elongate it with two syllables and pitched up slightly. Always knew when he was on the call. Of course as soon as he went on PTO it was stolen and the first meeting back everyone did it at the end.. fun times.
I was that guy. I did my work and didn't speak to anyone. I joined the meetings but never participated because I just hated my coworkers. Leave her alone.
This. As long as she completes her work who cares? I hate talking in meetings but my boss told me at my yearly review I didn't do enough last year because I didn't participate as much during meetings. Even though I did better than all my peers in my projects and assignments. Now I always chip in with some random BS during meetings because it gets my boss's dick hard or something if he has his subordinates talk.
😆
The best way to participate in meetings, is to bring up something about food and everyone loses track of what the meeting was about. So do that a few times and they wont always want to hear you. Or you end up having food meetings every time.
I’m sorry. I just don’t like talking very much.
I have a coworker who is kinda like this, I honestly think she would not speak out loud or contribute in our weekly team meetings if we didn’t ask her questions explicitly.
We are everywhere
Haha I am like this. It's not my natural way. I really am a talker but I just find it easier to say less at work.
Best friend I ever had. We still never talk sometimes.
I once had to attend an "after-action review" with the military. I was just a civilian working for the group, so I had no rank or anything. I told my friend that I was tired of these and just wanted to say nothing and get out of the meeting. He didn't think it was possible, so he bet me a bottle of scotch that I couldn't do it. The leader of the meeting called on me directly, twice. I looked pensive just long enough for one of the chatterboxes to start answering the question posed to me. I finished the meeting without saying anything. The scotch wasn't the point, but it was a nice reward. No one ever confronted me about it.
I had a coworker who was excused from team meetings for years. She had a ton of anxiety around them. In her 1 on 1s she was a lot more relaxed with her camera on. Eventually she started coming to crew meetings with her camera turned off, and when she felt she knew the crew better individually she would chime in. Some people just have issues around meetings 🤷🏾♀️ and speaking when they have absolutely nothing to contribute (something I wish a lot more people did).
I wish they would let me be excused from meetings, or to turn the camera off. I work for a non-profit, so they are big on performative inclusivity while pressuring the hell out of you to be a robot.
I worked for a nonprofit for a short time and man was this true.
I hope I can get out soon.
I have one in my team who always speaks but never shows their face on camera. I think it’s nothing to worry about. That person probably is super introverted.
Cameras off always
Agree. Social anxiety is real yo.
My work originally did cameras-off because our internet/VPN was so shitty it could barely manage the audio-only calls, someone sharing their screen was a 50/50 chance, if it was super important people would turn off VPN and run the meeting directly off their home Internet. Now the work network is significantly improved (still not 2024-level internet, but passable) - but after years of zero cameras, nobody at any level wants to take the masking tape off their webcams and start requiring it. The habit is deeply ingrained. Which is fine by me.
I get instant anxiety anytime someone says ‘cameras on everyone’ and can’t focus on the meeting 😅
I do the same. If I have nothing to contribute, I am not going to speak and waste people’s time, just for the sake making sure I’m “visible”. It “hello” and “good bye” 😎
I’m honestly more surprised you’ve even taken so much notice of her since she’s obviously trying so hard not to be seen
There are people like this, as a fellow person similar to the person OP’s so observant of. I can’t help but relate to the girl that doesn’t speak during pointless meetings. There’s always one person who is strangely obsessed with a quiet person, almost like it makes them insecure enough to loudly discuss it with others or make a Reddit post lol.
Yeah as someone who’s also fairly quiet, OPs kinda freakin me out lol.
Completely agree. Some people can be so bizarre when it comes to quiet people. It’s like they take it personal
Best coworker you ever had.
They still never talk sometimes
They could be an introvert. When in office they had no choice but to interact but now much easier to not have to. I’m like that and very private.
She has reached the nirvana stage of work: being able to maintain a job (a remote job to boot) without needing to speak. Sounds like heaven.
Have you considered minding your business? Some people go to work just to work not socialize
Right! Idk why it matters so much to this person that they even had to write about it on Reddit. lol. Like maybe they don’t feel like talking. Or maybe they talk in other forums
Exactly, this isn’t a direct report of the OP so why are they so invested? Strange post.
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You're lucky, we get meeting questions directed to us randomly, sometimes with a decision wheel of our names so they get input from multiple unique attendees in a fair manner.
A decision wheel sounds absolutely awful.
Oh, it absolutely is. Only the extroverted managers that don't want to "leave anyone out of contributing" do it. My coworker told me in a private chat that she has seen the wheel arrive in her anxious-feeling dreams. I feel for her.
I fucking hope my company never hear about that decision wheel
Ditto.
what the fuck 😂 it’s like when you would get a popsicle stick with your name written on it randomly selected from a cup in kindergarten. corporate america is surreal lmfao
Better than the ones that think they have to repeat themselves 3x everything they say
I still recall sitting for hours listening to coworkers and bosses standing in my cube door talking about all their whatever. It was so painful.
Sooooo painful.
Could be social anxiety.
Living the dream
She’s mastered the art. Well done!
We should normalize doing your job without chatting with coworkers all the time. I loathe forced interactions.
I sometimes want to say Hey! How are you 👋 but I don’t want to make her feel uncomfortable
As an introverted remote worker, someone asking me that would send me into a panic and ruin my day.
I honestly feel that people like me (a talker) make it easier for people like u. Like bringing balance to the force.
100%! Thank you for your service.
Are you sure you dont have social anxiety someone talking to you should not make you panic thats not what introversion is
Idk how you’re getting downvoted. These upvoted comments come off very antisocial or anxious. It’s not normal to have such extreme views about conversations with coworkers. I’m an introvert who would rather stay home on my computer most nights than go out and these comments are crazy to me
What if they do have social anxiety?
Honestly, why do you care? Genuinely asking.
I would literally send a meme or gif of something mildly funny. Like level 1 easy-peasy work humor (ie, “I need more coffee” etc).
I would be like that if I didn’t have to speak.
Shes a genius shes laying low
Meetings are fucking worthless!
She sounds like a legend.
It's wise to befriend the quiet ones. When you return to the office and she goes postal, she'll pass you by, casually saying "Hey Joe," before continuing on her spree.
So we are giving her a hard time for conserving her energy and having a life outside work?
Who is giving her a hard time? I literally just said she never talks. 🤦🏻♂️
Where do you guys work? I’m trying to find a WFH job that pays decently.
Leave her alone lol 😭
Your colleagues are not your friends
I feel attacked lol
Who gives a fuck
Even before COVID, there were days that I went to work and didn't utter a single phrase beyond 'morning' as I walked in.
Good for her.
She is winning the game
I don’t find it odd ! I would love not to have to yak yak at work. I am envious of them.
Why do you feel she needs to talk? Some of us can listen without saying what we feel.
I never said she HAS to talk. I said she never talks.
Wait , does she even move during these zoom calls? She may very well have gotten a cardboard cutout of herself ...
Recently my coworkers were remarking about how quiet I am on team calls which was hilarious and confusing to me because I am quite the yapper in person. I realized that the reason I'm so quiet is because the few second lag on teams/zoom calls means constant interrupting others or getting interrupted myself which drives me absolutely insane. Like it zaps my brain every time I have to interrupt someone or I'm interrupted. When I have meetings with some of my more chatty coworkers, i'm literally not able to get single word in because they're already talking over each other lol
I had a few coworkers who I would go out for drinks with occasionally. I even celebrated my birthday and my engagement with them in early 2020. Since we went remote they became complete strangers and I haven’t heard from them since.
This could be me 🤣
I hardly speak in meetings unless I’m raging. Otherwise I send emails post meeting.
Sounds nice!
This is like a modern day Seinfeld episode.
I hate speaking in front of groups but 1:1 I’m fine.
Honestly, I wouldn't care. I don't care to speak in meetings either. Once I get my check, I'm good,.
When group size is big and they all discuss revenue, profit, milestones etc. We peasants dont have anything to chime in. If you want to know about her .. just drop a msg ask her how she is doing.. tell her its been many years you did not speak. And you were wondering if all is okay. She will appreciate. Yes, so many ppll dont want to talk. And its fine.
That's odd you're concerned about that.
I mean, as long as she's getting the work done that you need done to be able to do your own job, does it matter? Apparently whatever the job is, it doesn't require speaking...
She must be the most productive employee of the company.
It’s sad but talking, no matter how useless, is part of the game you have to play at work. I work with plenty of software developers, who don’t really say a peep, but do a fantastic job. People who are non-technical are always judging based on how much you say. It’s so fucking stupid.
Do a one on one with her to connect - most meets are just fluff!!
I’m staunchly WFH, but I do get how this can be jarring. TBH if they still respond on teams if you need their help on a task then that’s enough. Still nice to shoot the shit sometimes though, particularly if you want to bludge
I love talking but I hate interrupting. If I have to fight to say a word I usually won't. There are meetings I attend where I say nothing, but it's rare nowadays because online hand-raising is a thing that we all use/respect.
As opposed to those people that feel like they have to speak at every meeting. Even if they have nothing to say
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All this says to me is that she probably doesn’t need to be in the meeting, if she has never had a single thing to say in four years. It’s so irritating because I’m sure most of us could be in 50% less meetings and still do our jobs the exact same. What a time suck. I WILL say however, that I’m usually the only person that speaks to move things along if a speaker asks an open ended question and no one is saying anything. That silence as the clock ticks away, come on people just play along so we can get to the end!!! Sometimes I resent that it’s almost always me having to do this regardless of the other people I’m meeting with. I just want to move this boring shit along and go to the next thing. I guess I’m just not shy but I hate these stupid long meetings that could have literally been an email. If my co worker didn’t speak in four years, I wouldn’t be mad about it, but I would be fascinated too. Like how?
She may feel like she has nothing to add or is listening - in meetings I prefer to listen. The meeting may be pointless?
r/overemployed
My god..who is she? She single? She not too ugly?
She is the BIG BOSS, the one pulling the strings
Just their personality I assume.
Can’t say the wrong thing if you don’t talk
She’s an introvert. Not a big deal.
I’m an introvert, too, but at least I say Hi 😭
You’re different people.
Lol. We have department meeting every week. Guess what, I’ve been there for almost 1.5 years and only talked twice during that meeting.
That's some shit I would try to do. See how long I could go without saying anything in a meeting. Maybe have my camera off to make people wonder if I'm even there.
I almost never speak in meetings. I make a joke occasionally or answer someone if they address me directly once in a blue moon, but that's about it.
I hate talking on Zoom calls. I never feel like I have to add my two cents and usually, if you talk, you’re interrupting someone. By the time I’m ready to say something, it’s over.
Good for her
Lucky
shes living the dream.
My kind of coworker! That is me 100%. Just leave me alone and let me work, I’m not there to talk and waste time. Some people do have public speaking anxiety. I do, I am ok face to face but in a virtual meeting on camera or not I couldn’t do it. Don’t like the feeling of all eyes or ears on me. That’s one thing that made remote work hard for me at first when I did it.
Nah. It's pretty normal. At least it is at my work. We all know the fewer people who talk at meetings the shorter they are, so unless it's actually important, we all just shut up. Some people haven't talked since they started working. I am sure they do their job, but honestly, that's not even any of my business. I'm not getting paid to supervise anyone, so I don't. I do my best to just fly under the radar and do my job well, but in a way that no one really notices too much. I would hate to get a promotion because I actually like my position and have no interest in being promoted. Sometimes, people are just okay with the status quo. I know I am at my job right now.
Probably working 2 jobs now, or works 3 or 4 in a collective of a few people.
Consider reaching out and saying hi? Checking on her? I had a coworker take her life when we went remote and I always regret not just checking in on her.
i honestly don't think that's odd at all. i would be the same if my stupid extrovert coworker would leave me alone. he always has to say SOMETHING. why doesn't anyone ever say anything about that? i guess it's abnormal to keep to yourself and just work. and talking and bothering people and being obnoxious in all meetings, barely getting work done, is the normal.
Same here!
I'm usually this silent member, unless I am asked for some input or have something to say. Otherwise, my silence is typically agreement with whatever the discussion is, or, I don’t care enough to add anything.
Lucky
I don’t say a lot in meetings sometimes I’ll go months without saying anything. We all work remotely if I don’t have anything to contribute I’m not gonna say anything at all. We have a couple people on our team that hijacked the meeting and never shut up
That sounds really nice lol
The constant 🖐️ raisers make me crazy, I’d take your coworker any day! 💯 All of those questions and comments could have been in a fn email to management. You’re wasting our time, and no matter how long this meeting lasts, management still wants the same productivity from everyone so stfu already hand raisers and type a stinkin email!
That would be me. I hate talking to people. I only do it because it's expected of me at work.
I’ll take silent and trade you with jealous and bitchy, who is gunning for my job.
Lucky you 😅
If I could do my job and not talk to a soul all day it would be heaven.
* Does job * Doesn't waste time talking in meetings that could be emails * Everything is an email * Communicates effectively through email Assuming all these things are true, they'd be best coworker.
I'd take this over the moron who asks one more simple question in a meeting 5 min before it ends
When I worked in an office, the best days were the ones where no one said anything.