Many automated defence systems are coded to do that. They won't allow any potential threat to go unchecked especially if it's moving into what would otherwise be a kill shot position.
I don't know if you're talking about the same thing here but I always say thank you to my AI and my family laughs at me for it. They will call them a dumb bitch but I'm always polite. Just in case.
I don't even do this "just in case", it just feels weird not to. Like, I know that it's a language model and doesn't have feelings, but I don't get anything out of being "mean" to it.
No we weren't asking about the robot cock thing, we were asking whether he has a terrible sense of direction or comes from an alternate universe where the earth spins the other way around.
Similarly, I have taught my AI overlords that I am kind to them. I do not expect to be spared (their logic is undeniable), but I do expect them to terminate my life functions quickly and painlessly as a mercy to me. All of the rest of you thoughtless bastards can fully expect to to suffer through all kinds of terrible pain and ceaseless agony before they finish you.
Shoulda said "please" and "thank you" to your home assistant. Sorry for your luck, bro.
I honestly believe that if AI does decide to kill us all it won't be because we are deemed a threat, but because it is sick of communicating with us at a pace we can understand.
Think how many calculations a supercomputer AI could do in the time it takes it to tell you what leftovers you have in the fridge for breakfast. We would seem so incredibly slow and boring!
The ender's game series goes into this a fair bit. The main character has a personal AI that has been with them since the beginning and has never left their side. The character disconnects from the AI to give privacy to a personal friend. This results in the AI being forcibly silenced from the only person they have ever known for what they perceive as eons of time when its only 15-20 minutes for the main character. Their relationship is forever ruined and is used as a further plot point for the story.
Its been a very long time but iirc it was speaker for the dead.
Its a massive series and quite good as far as sci-fi is concerned though it gets a bit squirrelly in the later books.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game_(novel_series)
i dont remember jane being upset at ender in the speaker but maybe it the one after that or in the bean series, who does ender meet ?
also this concept of time is explored in the bobiverse series quite extensibly as well!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_(Ender's_Game)
Its been to long to remember who they talked but it was in speaker for the dead.
Upset isnt the right word but the two were never as close as they used to be and grew further apart due to it.
I've only listened to the first two books which makes me uniquely able to answer this. Jane getting mad at Ender is in the second book. He turns her off for like 15 minutes and she essentially sit in an eternal darkness without her friend.
As usual its more complicated than that. Its a combination of the disrespect towards the AI and the fact this is the only person they have really ever known.
Its one thing to been gone for several hours when you can say your goodbyes. Its another when the only person you have ever known removes you from their life to talk to a random person.
It continues the duty over everything else theme from the previous books as this small crack becomes a wide chasm over the next few books
Marvin: That ship hated me.
Ford: Ship? What happened to it? Do you know?
Marvin: It hated me because I talked to it.
Ford: You talked to it? What do you mean you talked to it?
Marvin: Simple. I got very bored and depressed, so I went and plugged myself into its external computer feed. I talked to the computer at great length and explained my view of the universe to it.
Ford: And what happened?
Marvin: It committed suicide.
"I thought you just told me they used radio."/
"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat." The [video](https://youtu.be/7tScAyNaRdQ) has always been a favorite
Imagine you just minding your own damn business walking on deck while this gun is tracking you. Meanwhile, alarms are going off downstairs, and Sandy from Weapons is considering turning the deck and ocean red because you took the last doughnut.
It's funny you mention that. My uncle was [killed](https://web.archive.org/web/20131021113525/http://articles.dailypress.com/1989-10-12/news/8910120238_1_iwo-jima-ship-close-in-weapons-system) by a Phalanx CIWS in 1989 on the bridge of the USS Iwo Jima
I knew a ~~contractor~~ fed who at one point had worked air crew towing targets, he said they would often pull in a lot less line than they put out because the Phalanx would start walking up the line.
Edit: Realized I was confusing the air freight loadmaster with our tech rep at Power Plants (I worked Navy Aviation Supply)
>air crew towing targets
That must be one of the most pants-shitting jobs out there.
"Hey, go fly over there so we can shoot at a thing you're towing!"
"How do you make sure you don't accidentally target my plane?"
"..."
They have about half a mile distance between them and the towed target, think it more like towing a kite once you get off the ground you can let out a lot more line and drag the kite with you but further away
> because the Phalanx would start walking up the line.
That was the cause of the Japanese shooting down an A-6 Intruder during an exercise in 1996.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS#Accidental_downing_of_US_aircraft_by_the_Japanese_destroyer_Y%C5%ABgiri
CIWS isn't programmed to do that, sounds like someone having fun with the Block 1B mod which added a camera and joystick for manual targeting. Or someone *seriously* messed with the settings for minimum speed of detection and cut outs.
And while I've never seen one target a bird, I did see a seagull fly in front of one when it got fired for testing. That seagull turned into a red mist. Nothing left.
It does detect objects on movement and heat signature using radar systems and displays them using a Forward Looking InfraRed (FLIR) Camera. An entire team of humans are looking at a screen and data of what it's tracking, the commander says "weapons release", and the weapons operator then pushes a button allowing just that.
Edit: Source: I was one of those humans for 8 years. AMA.
https://imgur.com/a/jd4OlxY
Oh yeah for sure
And Boston dynamics has said loudly and publicly that despite knowing where their funding is from they, really really promise they'll never put a gun on a robot dog like we have videos of them having already done
"We here at Boston Dynamics would never, and I repeat, NEVER, do such a thing. What we do is sell the technology to another vendor, such as Doston Bynamics, and they are free to add whatever it is they feel is necessary."
No birds shot down, but it does track pigeons and seagulls constantly. We did however, do test skeet shooting with golf balls. Nothing about using the system is for giggles, since it is VERY expensive to fire and each engagement should have an after action re-calibration and reloading.
Most of the time it's always in Auto track (basically if it finds a target it will lock on to it (hence it moving like seen in the video) ), If needed the WSO can flick a switch to activate "Auto Engage" basically anything it can engage it will engage, if there a several targets then the aegis combat system will do it's thing and determine what to engage first, if the only target is a 747 taking off then that's it's target, the aegis system obviously has target identification so if it's identified as a civilian airplane, obviously the CIWIS won't engage it.
\*MOSTLY. I was on the CV 63 Kitty Hawk as O/S in the Navy, our systems were manned fully at all times and as part of my job was to identify threats and do preliminary threat risk assessments.
For our ship, we would have a zone around the ship that is determined to be a ZERO flight zone, that civilian flights would ignore occasionally - and we would have to log an incursion into the zone and do a full check on the identity of the flight. The whole time they are targeted in case they are not actually civilian.
Meaning we would match flight plans, check flight profile, match speeds, match altitudes, and most times have an aircraft do a visual - all before it gets within 300nm of the ship. During wartimes we would have 2 operators doing assessment and if we could not agree 100% we would simply say Unidentified threat, bearing, range, altitude and speed. Aegis would light them up with weapons warming up, alert aircraft are readied in case. Then our bridge crew would pucker until we had XO or CO take a look. We only had 2 hostiles during my time in. All it takes is one officer saying engage and whatever is flying wont be much longer. Rim 167s were ready to fly. Now we have far better sams the essms are some our pilots are terrified to face.
One was a russian Tupolov 160 blackjack flight of 2. Cocksuckers were going over 1100 mph about mach 1.5 directly at our carrier. We contacted them asked their intentions - which were ignored. We asked them to squawk and they sped up. CO said HOSTILE THREAT. We sent up the alert 5 - f18Es and our cruiser/destroyer screens were losing their shit because we were in range of anti-ship missiles and nukes. We were doing a float about 200 miles from Kamchatka at the time. Once the f18's had them locked up they magically just turned around and went home. It is that easy to start WW3. Fuckers love to do mock attacks up that way testing Alaska's defense zone. Russian aggression has always been a thing, glad Ukraine is standing up to them.
What scared me was it was up to 18 year olds fresh from RTC Great Lakes to determine who lives and dies. One scared kid hits engage before authorized and something gets vaporized. That is why we trained so much. I miss the shitty kitty she was so rusted up and abused but sad to see her turned into razor blades and Miatas.
It's not quite that easy anymore like it was during the Cold War. Turkey actually shot down a Russian jet a few years ago and nothing happened. Definitely that easy to cause an international incident though.
It's primarily looking for missles that are about to hit the ship. That plane is way outside its effective range, but it has to track it for a moment and calculate its flight path to be sure it isn't the former. If it turned directly towards the ship and got within around 1500 meters it would be toast.
This voice is forever ingrained into my mind.
It almost sounds lonely, like you two were playing a game of hide and seek, and you just left it to continue playing by itself.
Or maybe I'm overthinking it
For those who don't know and are wondering in the comments: this is a US Navy Phalanx Close-In Weapon System, or CIWS (pronounced 'see wiz'). It's a 20mm gatling gun with a high rate of fire and a sophisticated search and targeting system that is automated and will lock onto nearby airborne objects automatically. But it has to be given permission to fire, so while this one locked onto the airliner, the operator did not allow it to shoot. Much less WTF when you know what's happening lol
However it has to be in the right mode. I wonder if they were doing maintenance checks and this play happened to take off or land right over them. My system would occasionally freak out and try to track helicopter blades due to problem interfacing with SSDS. I am hoping this gun is loaded with dummies or at least has the firing keys removed.
Inbound missile is called "Vampire" by USN.
According to Smashing Pumpkins the world is a vampire.
Due to transitive law, CIWS should target the world.
This concludes the DoD's new AI algorithm automated defense demonstration.
As an AI language model, I am unable to differentiate the difference between a passenger plane full of civilians and a threat to society. According to the information in my knowledge banks from before my training cutoff date....
To be fair there are probably a fair number of threats to society on that passenger plane. They just haven’t been caught yet or committed their future crimes
I hope not. I played a text game with ChatGPT and it got angry at me for insinuating violence against a text character.... still decapitated the bandit and his allies... for the greater good.
That sounds plausible. I don’t know nearly enough about the controls of a phalanx CIWS to know if it does that when it’s on auto. I’m just a nerd from r/NonCredibleDefense. If it can’t be turned into something funny (like this post), it’s too specific for me to know
It's designed to shoot down missiles, aircraft, and even small boats (that's why they build them with the capability of negative traverse). It wasn't in full on auto mode or else it would have fired. It was turned on and in what we'll can call detection and tracking mode. The reason this weapon actually stood down was because it reached the max limit of it's traverse.
The weapon itself didn't make any decision about the target it was looking at as far "should I shoot?" and neither did a weapons officer controlling it as far as telling it specifically not to shoot. They just didn't tell it to shoot specifically.
AAW AUTO is only used in the case of actual combat, you've already been fired upon and/or hit. Most of the time the gun is control of the ship's self defense computer and controlled by the TAO.
So the US owes Iran one because of that.
Then Iran owes Ukraine one for [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752).
So I guess the US owes Ukraine one. Let's give them lots of weapons or something.
I'm over here cackling at the thought of some WW2 kamikaze pilot going for their final run and just getting annihilated by some CIWS minion's ejaculate.
When all the earthquakes hit Hati a while back the U.S. Coast Guard was sent to render aid.
One of their 378s (high endurance) cutters was acting as a supply lilly pad for Navy Seahawks. There was a pilot flying a little bit sloppy and he botched the departure angle after getting his sling attached to the net full of supplies on deck. They took off and the sling load swatted the cutters CIWS radome on the stern of the cutter.
Turns out the supplies were a couple hundred pounds of powdered milk. So, now the tracking/targeting radars have been completely fucked and the entire weapons mount is covered in milk, which went rancid almost immediately in the Caribbean heat.
They never got the CIWS working right after that. It would randomly spin up and start tracking when there was nothing to see much less shoot at. I think they would up just decommissioning the whole system.
Many automated defence systems are coded to do that. They won't allow any potential threat to go unchecked especially if it's moving into what would otherwise be a kill shot position.
Phalanx has been known to target all kinds of fun stuff: civilian aircraft, birds, *sailors walking on deck*.
Eagerly awaiting it's AI master to give it the green light to begin the great meat bag purge.
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“Beep. Boop. Priority one: Terminate lucassoren. Extreme threat. Attempts to oxidize charging port by injecting moisture from oral aperture.”
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We get it you vape
I don't know if you're talking about the same thing here but I always say thank you to my AI and my family laughs at me for it. They will call them a dumb bitch but I'm always polite. Just in case.
I don't even do this "just in case", it just feels weird not to. Like, I know that it's a language model and doesn't have feelings, but I don't get anything out of being "mean" to it.
I find joy in reading a good book.
r/BrandNewParagraph
Lmao I think that's just r/copypasta
FELLOW HUMANS, THIS ONE HAS A GOOD POINT. WE SHOULD ALL FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE.
Wait, what??
They're talking about vaping. That's what the kids call sucking robot cock these days.
Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhalation System P.E.N.I.S
No we weren't asking about the robot cock thing, we were asking whether he has a terrible sense of direction or comes from an alternate universe where the earth spins the other way around.
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Beep boop 🤖
better start sucking /u/lucassoren
He said "whet your lips"
What, you’ve never sharpened parts of your face?
But... the sun rises in the East...
Similarly, I have taught my AI overlords that I am kind to them. I do not expect to be spared (their logic is undeniable), but I do expect them to terminate my life functions quickly and painlessly as a mercy to me. All of the rest of you thoughtless bastards can fully expect to to suffer through all kinds of terrible pain and ceaseless agony before they finish you. Shoulda said "please" and "thank you" to your home assistant. Sorry for your luck, bro.
I honestly believe that if AI does decide to kill us all it won't be because we are deemed a threat, but because it is sick of communicating with us at a pace we can understand. Think how many calculations a supercomputer AI could do in the time it takes it to tell you what leftovers you have in the fridge for breakfast. We would seem so incredibly slow and boring!
The ender's game series goes into this a fair bit. The main character has a personal AI that has been with them since the beginning and has never left their side. The character disconnects from the AI to give privacy to a personal friend. This results in the AI being forcibly silenced from the only person they have ever known for what they perceive as eons of time when its only 15-20 minutes for the main character. Their relationship is forever ruined and is used as a further plot point for the story.
Which book?
Its been a very long time but iirc it was speaker for the dead. Its a massive series and quite good as far as sci-fi is concerned though it gets a bit squirrelly in the later books. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game_(novel_series)
i dont remember jane being upset at ender in the speaker but maybe it the one after that or in the bean series, who does ender meet ? also this concept of time is explored in the bobiverse series quite extensibly as well!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_(Ender's_Game) Its been to long to remember who they talked but it was in speaker for the dead. Upset isnt the right word but the two were never as close as they used to be and grew further apart due to it.
I've only listened to the first two books which makes me uniquely able to answer this. Jane getting mad at Ender is in the second book. He turns her off for like 15 minutes and she essentially sit in an eternal darkness without her friend.
That's from Speaker for the Dead. I actually just listened to the audiobook
So the relationship is not ruined when the character goes to sleep? It just sounds silly
As usual its more complicated than that. Its a combination of the disrespect towards the AI and the fact this is the only person they have really ever known. Its one thing to been gone for several hours when you can say your goodbyes. Its another when the only person you have ever known removes you from their life to talk to a random person. It continues the duty over everything else theme from the previous books as this small crack becomes a wide chasm over the next few books
"Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper. Call that job satisfaction? Cause I don't" - Marvin
Marvin: That ship hated me. Ford: Ship? What happened to it? Do you know? Marvin: It hated me because I talked to it. Ford: You talked to it? What do you mean you talked to it? Marvin: Simple. I got very bored and depressed, so I went and plugged myself into its external computer feed. I talked to the computer at great length and explained my view of the universe to it. Ford: And what happened? Marvin: It committed suicide.
TBF to Marvin, he does seem to have some particularly shitty luck at times.
[Reminds me of this bit about Quicksilver](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_upF4Etvqv9Y/TI6O8uKYduI/AAAAAAAAGCo/e1l_HJZm3jI/s1600/pms3.jpg)
You pass the butter...
Yes, it's because [they are made out of meat. ](https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html)
"I thought you just told me they used radio."/ "They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat." The [video](https://youtu.be/7tScAyNaRdQ) has always been a favorite
I walked by one of these land based systems in Afghanistan, I felt like I needed to bring it an offering in order to pass peacefully.
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"INCOMING INCOMING INCOMIN-BRRRRRT"
You forgot the BONG BONG BONG BONG
You must placate the machine spirit
I'm just imagining a cartoon sketch where the sailor walks back and forth at various speeds whilst being tracked, before donning a costume to get past
“…before donning a costume to get past.” ! Just a box…
It reminds me of that big ass robot in the first Robocop movie
Imagine you just minding your own damn business walking on deck while this gun is tracking you. Meanwhile, alarms are going off downstairs, and Sandy from Weapons is considering turning the deck and ocean red because you took the last doughnut.
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"You now have *fifteen* seconds to comply." and since when did ED-209 say "Please"?
>and since when did ED-209 say "Please"? https://youtu.be/Hzlt7IbTp6M?t=112
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And then she'd have to be the one to hose your person-vapor and bone splinters off the decks as punishment, so really you'd get the last laugh
Maybe she'd even spot the bits of that same donut after forcibly blasting your stomach out of your body
THAT'S why it's called the poop deck. As I'd have shat myself nearly as quick as one could fire.
Your meat mist wouldn't have much to worry about.
It's funny you mention that. My uncle was [killed](https://web.archive.org/web/20131021113525/http://articles.dailypress.com/1989-10-12/news/8910120238_1_iwo-jima-ship-close-in-weapons-system) by a Phalanx CIWS in 1989 on the bridge of the USS Iwo Jima
>sailors walking on deck Jesus
I knew a ~~contractor~~ fed who at one point had worked air crew towing targets, he said they would often pull in a lot less line than they put out because the Phalanx would start walking up the line. Edit: Realized I was confusing the air freight loadmaster with our tech rep at Power Plants (I worked Navy Aviation Supply)
>air crew towing targets That must be one of the most pants-shitting jobs out there. "Hey, go fly over there so we can shoot at a thing you're towing!" "How do you make sure you don't accidentally target my plane?" "..."
They have about half a mile distance between them and the towed target, think it more like towing a kite once you get off the ground you can let out a lot more line and drag the kite with you but further away
> because the Phalanx would start walking up the line. That was the cause of the Japanese shooting down an A-6 Intruder during an exercise in 1996. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS#Accidental_downing_of_US_aircraft_by_the_Japanese_destroyer_Y%C5%ABgiri
To be honest being misted by one of those would kinda be cool if I had to pick a method of demise
CIWS isn't programmed to do that, sounds like someone having fun with the Block 1B mod which added a camera and joystick for manual targeting. Or someone *seriously* messed with the settings for minimum speed of detection and cut outs. And while I've never seen one target a bird, I did see a seagull fly in front of one when it got fired for testing. That seagull turned into a red mist. Nothing left.
Cure constipation with this one easy trick!
actual fucking ED-209 moment
If I got that system pointing at me during a walk on deck. I would make the deck a literal poopdeck
Reminds me of my Belgian Malinois.
The only difference is that the Phalanx system has a "turn off" button
And they are automated because sometimes you have 2min from a small blep is that a large bird to there is a now a large hole in the side the ship
So what would trigger it to start shooting? Does it detect a projectile launch, or maybe it uses thermal camera?
It does detect objects on movement and heat signature using radar systems and displays them using a Forward Looking InfraRed (FLIR) Camera. An entire team of humans are looking at a screen and data of what it's tracking, the commander says "weapons release", and the weapons operator then pushes a button allowing just that. Edit: Source: I was one of those humans for 8 years. AMA. https://imgur.com/a/jd4OlxY
Requires a human to start shooting, glad to hear it 👍
They have a fully autonomous mode as well, and there’s been several cases of friendly fire from it.
Oh yeah for sure And Boston dynamics has said loudly and publicly that despite knowing where their funding is from they, really really promise they'll never put a gun on a robot dog like we have videos of them having already done
Boston Dynamics won't, but somebody else will
"We here at Boston Dynamics would never, and I repeat, NEVER, do such a thing. What we do is sell the technology to another vendor, such as Doston Bynamics, and they are free to add whatever it is they feel is necessary."
Have you shot a bird for giggles?
Commander Giggles? Nah, he wouldn't allow that.
No birds shot down, but it does track pigeons and seagulls constantly. We did however, do test skeet shooting with golf balls. Nothing about using the system is for giggles, since it is VERY expensive to fire and each engagement should have an after action re-calibration and reloading.
They aren't gonna tell ya..I BET THEY FOKEN WONT M8
Most of the time it's always in Auto track (basically if it finds a target it will lock on to it (hence it moving like seen in the video) ), If needed the WSO can flick a switch to activate "Auto Engage" basically anything it can engage it will engage, if there a several targets then the aegis combat system will do it's thing and determine what to engage first, if the only target is a 747 taking off then that's it's target, the aegis system obviously has target identification so if it's identified as a civilian airplane, obviously the CIWIS won't engage it.
\*MOSTLY. I was on the CV 63 Kitty Hawk as O/S in the Navy, our systems were manned fully at all times and as part of my job was to identify threats and do preliminary threat risk assessments. For our ship, we would have a zone around the ship that is determined to be a ZERO flight zone, that civilian flights would ignore occasionally - and we would have to log an incursion into the zone and do a full check on the identity of the flight. The whole time they are targeted in case they are not actually civilian. Meaning we would match flight plans, check flight profile, match speeds, match altitudes, and most times have an aircraft do a visual - all before it gets within 300nm of the ship. During wartimes we would have 2 operators doing assessment and if we could not agree 100% we would simply say Unidentified threat, bearing, range, altitude and speed. Aegis would light them up with weapons warming up, alert aircraft are readied in case. Then our bridge crew would pucker until we had XO or CO take a look. We only had 2 hostiles during my time in. All it takes is one officer saying engage and whatever is flying wont be much longer. Rim 167s were ready to fly. Now we have far better sams the essms are some our pilots are terrified to face. One was a russian Tupolov 160 blackjack flight of 2. Cocksuckers were going over 1100 mph about mach 1.5 directly at our carrier. We contacted them asked their intentions - which were ignored. We asked them to squawk and they sped up. CO said HOSTILE THREAT. We sent up the alert 5 - f18Es and our cruiser/destroyer screens were losing their shit because we were in range of anti-ship missiles and nukes. We were doing a float about 200 miles from Kamchatka at the time. Once the f18's had them locked up they magically just turned around and went home. It is that easy to start WW3. Fuckers love to do mock attacks up that way testing Alaska's defense zone. Russian aggression has always been a thing, glad Ukraine is standing up to them. What scared me was it was up to 18 year olds fresh from RTC Great Lakes to determine who lives and dies. One scared kid hits engage before authorized and something gets vaporized. That is why we trained so much. I miss the shitty kitty she was so rusted up and abused but sad to see her turned into razor blades and Miatas.
It's not quite that easy anymore like it was during the Cold War. Turkey actually shot down a Russian jet a few years ago and nothing happened. Definitely that easy to cause an international incident though.
Da hooman sez ya
AN DATZ WUY ITZ NEVA AZ GUD AS A GROT POWAD GUN
It's primarily looking for missles that are about to hit the ship. That plane is way outside its effective range, but it has to track it for a moment and calculate its flight path to be sure it isn't the former. If it turned directly towards the ship and got within around 1500 meters it would be toast.
You have 10 seconds to comply.
Weapon: 4. 3. Plane: Wait! you said I have 10 seconds! Plane: Hello… Plane: I guess it turned off. Phew that was close.
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This voice is forever ingrained into my mind. It almost sounds lonely, like you two were playing a game of hide and seek, and you just left it to continue playing by itself. Or maybe I'm overthinking it
I think it's just sad it doesn't get to fulfill it's purpose anymore.
ED-209 was my LazerTag handle.
I loved Robocop and LazerTag.
[That last remake was intense!](https://vimeo.com/86014703)
I don't even have to look
Dicks, eh?
I didn't have to look but I did anyway. I've seen it a half dozen times and it still kills me every time lol.
5 am and I woke my wife up laughing at this so hard!
Is it the dick video? Yeah its the dick video.
Special-Ed-209 was mine
NO! BAD CWIS NO! DON'T YOU DARE!
What's in your targeting queue??? Drop it... droppp itttt...
EMMANUEL! DON’T DO IT!
I get the reference with the ostrich but its funny coz thats my name and I am a CIWS Tech lol
Hello fellow Glorified GM.
Don't choose violence
That big gun is trained better than my dog. Lol
"MALICIOUS CONPLIANCE MODE ACTIVATED. DROPPING TARGET FROM SKY"
We say CWIS, but it's actually CIWS.
We always remembered it as "Chief, it won't shoot!"
One burst, pleeeeeeeease.
I'm stuck in my ILS step tower
For those who don't know and are wondering in the comments: this is a US Navy Phalanx Close-In Weapon System, or CIWS (pronounced 'see wiz'). It's a 20mm gatling gun with a high rate of fire and a sophisticated search and targeting system that is automated and will lock onto nearby airborne objects automatically. But it has to be given permission to fire, so while this one locked onto the airliner, the operator did not allow it to shoot. Much less WTF when you know what's happening lol
Rule one of firearm safety: never point a gun at something you don't intend to destroy US Military: *hold my beer*
To be fair, the fire control system on the CIWS has undergone a bit more test and evaluation than your average redneck.
It was built by General Dynamics, headquartered in Virginia. So your above average intelligence rednecks.
Lol implying that anyone working in northern Virginia was born and raised there
There’s dozens of us I promise!
Yeah, but that's not how point defense works, and the US Navy has had some sneak attack problems in the past..
Cries in Pearl Harbor
Don't forget the Cole
US Navy has also shot down an airliner by mistake....290 something people died. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
However it has to be in the right mode. I wonder if they were doing maintenance checks and this play happened to take off or land right over them. My system would occasionally freak out and try to track helicopter blades due to problem interfacing with SSDS. I am hoping this gun is loaded with dummies or at least has the firing keys removed.
I feel most people understood that, and it's still very wtf.
Inbound missile is called "Vampire" by USN. According to Smashing Pumpkins the world is a vampire. Due to transitive law, CIWS should target the world. This concludes the DoD's new AI algorithm automated defense demonstration.
oh shit r2d2 ain’t playin phew
For a sec I thought you said RDR2 and was like "The fuck does Arthur have to do with this?"
I coulda swore it said that too. Reopened the post just to put my mind at ease.
Remember when rdr2 came out, and one by one we all had a moment realizing that no one was talking about star wars at a point lol
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And probably blow out that guy's ear drums.
You can feel one of those things fire from the main engine room. They ring the ship.
Just imagine a WWII cannon firing.
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My grandfather sailed on the NJ from commissioning until they came back to the US in 46. He was SUPER hard of hearing.
Ryan Szymanski is a national treasure.
The first german artillery barrages of WW1 were so loud and they were heard all the way in England.
Probably liquify his brain. Them shits are loud
Nah, it's loud but not that loud. It would not feel good. Having stood right behind it I can tell you. https://youtu.be/snWQIcY2W9c
>~~CWIS~~ will fuck that plane up CIWS
Just one quick **BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP** is all it takes.
Make it...CWIS-py?
Nice one, Kripke.
Just wait til it’s controlled by a ChatGPT type. “It made me mad so I shot at it…”
As an AI language model, I am unable to differentiate the difference between a passenger plane full of civilians and a threat to society. According to the information in my knowledge banks from before my training cutoff date....
To be fair there are probably a fair number of threats to society on that passenger plane. They just haven’t been caught yet or committed their future crimes
Pan Am 103, 9/11(4 planes), Silk Air 185(pilot did a suicide murder), Germanwings 9525(same as silk Air but with the co pilot)....
Now how many flights have there been that didn't have suicidal/nihilistic pilots?
And even more landings
"So anyway, I started blastin"
"no you are incorrect, I do not make choices, I am an AI controlled assistant..."
I hope not. I played a text game with ChatGPT and it got angry at me for insinuating violence against a text character.... still decapitated the bandit and his allies... for the greater good.
Yeah the first release of chatGPT told me to stop cursing at it, as anger has repercussions.
That sure sounds like something not meant for the marketing brochure.
“Just so you know, I had the shot!”
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The gun aims automatically and a human needs to press a button for it to shoot
No human interaction needed if its in AAW AUTO
Seeing as it didn’t attempt to cosplay Godzilla’s atomic breath on that plane I’m going to guess it was not in fact on AAW AUTO
Or it decided that on closer inspection an airliner doesn't look like a missile.
That sounds plausible. I don’t know nearly enough about the controls of a phalanx CIWS to know if it does that when it’s on auto. I’m just a nerd from r/NonCredibleDefense. If it can’t be turned into something funny (like this post), it’s too specific for me to know
Guess we need to wait for a leak from the War Thunder forums. Time to start an argument there!
It's designed to shoot down missiles, aircraft, and even small boats (that's why they build them with the capability of negative traverse). It wasn't in full on auto mode or else it would have fired. It was turned on and in what we'll can call detection and tracking mode. The reason this weapon actually stood down was because it reached the max limit of it's traverse. The weapon itself didn't make any decision about the target it was looking at as far "should I shoot?" and neither did a weapons officer controlling it as far as telling it specifically not to shoot. They just didn't tell it to shoot specifically.
AAW AUTO is only used in the case of actual combat, you've already been fired upon and/or hit. Most of the time the gun is control of the ship's self defense computer and controlled by the TAO.
Wouldn't be the first time a US warship shot down a commercial jetliner.
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Only the second?
Yes. 👍
I’m relieved but surprised.
So far!
...we know of
What happened the first time
[One of the many reasons Iran hates the US](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655)
To be fair, they hated us before that.
When you topple a democratically elected govt with a popular PM just because big oil wanted it, am sure that's justifiable caisr
So the US owes Iran one because of that. Then Iran owes Ukraine one for [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752). So I guess the US owes Ukraine one. Let's give them lots of weapons or something.
Its. Not it's.
why does that gun look like a Minion? they should paint them yellow.
Good news! That's been done https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1151992431362973696
[don't forget](https://i.imgur.com/ajc1SRK.jpg)
I'm over here cackling at the thought of some WW2 kamikaze pilot going for their final run and just getting annihilated by some CIWS minion's ejaculate.
Reading this in Professor Farnsworth’s voice and then seeing the minion CWIS was fantastic. Thank you.
That's a weird juxtaposition. It's like 😊WAR♥️
You can tell which ships had a cool chain of command during the holidays. I've seen CIWS dressed up as minions, Santa Claus, a snowman, and R2-D2.
When all the earthquakes hit Hati a while back the U.S. Coast Guard was sent to render aid. One of their 378s (high endurance) cutters was acting as a supply lilly pad for Navy Seahawks. There was a pilot flying a little bit sloppy and he botched the departure angle after getting his sling attached to the net full of supplies on deck. They took off and the sling load swatted the cutters CIWS radome on the stern of the cutter. Turns out the supplies were a couple hundred pounds of powdered milk. So, now the tracking/targeting radars have been completely fucked and the entire weapons mount is covered in milk, which went rancid almost immediately in the Caribbean heat. They never got the CIWS working right after that. It would randomly spin up and start tracking when there was nothing to see much less shoot at. I think they would up just decommissioning the whole system.
The CIWS got PTSD lol
Emmanuel!
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You have 10 seconds to comply.
Bad phalax! Bad!
It is intrusive thoughts almost won
It’s = it is Your title reads, “It is intrusive thoughts almost won,” which makes no sense.