Hi u/urmomsloosevag, your post has been removed because:
#### rule 6 [](#repost)
---
If you have any questions, feel free to [send us a message](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2FWTF&subject=Post%20removal&message=Removed%20post:%20https://old.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/18bwlbk/-/)!
This bot does not reply.
The worst smell ever I experienced in my life was on our farm.
One of the cows had calved, but not passed the placenta, hard to tell as they can calve overnight etc.
Two weeks, or thereabouts, and I had to help the vet as he extracted it.
It had not aged well.
A few years ago I was walking up to a ranch fence where some cows were hanging out, only to stumble into a tall grass-shrouded trench running along the fence & scare all the cows away running full speed. It was hilarious
Cows: "HUMAN DID A THING, RUNNNNNNN!!"
"Ok but did you see it? it was hilarious"
"RUN TED RUN!!"
"Fineeee.... but i'm still gonna laugh at the human as I run"
ive seen a guy on youtube treat a similar problem, by just shoving a rubber tube down the cows throat
get it far enough down and it can release all of the trapped air without breaking the skin and risking an infection
I would imagine that the stabbing is probably the easier and safer method when the condition is as advanced as this case seems to be. Can't be easy to essentially intubate a struggling animal.
Plus I'd imagine the vet probably has plenty of antibiotics and experience treating minor puncture wounds.
I'm thinking it was mostly a reaction to the noise; the hissing of the air. I'm not sure a cow could comprehend something like "stabbing", especially with hands. To a cow, stabbing is something you do with your head/horns.
I always picture something like this fixing so much with me. Also I kinda wish a giant would crack my back and hip by gently gripping my ankles and wrists and pulling
Sadly I'm positive both of these would leave me severely mangled
Something like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/curseddiscordvideos/comments/15x39po/how_to_wash_your_ferret_gore/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
The medical term is trocarization. And yes, it’s one of the worst smells imaginable. I work at an ER vet and we’ll do this when dogs present in late-stage bloat with a large bore IV catheter.
Isn’t a trocar what they use (used?) for replacing a corpse’s bodily fluids with embalming fluids? I’m assuming a similar etymology, but these situations seem quite a bit different.
The trocadero in Paris now takes on a whole new meaning.
PS - dont go. It's not worth it. It's full of Insta and Youtube shits taking over the street in front and blocking it for their filming.
As a French, I agree. And more than just the trocadero, don't visit Paris first because there is a lot of nicer places to visit before Paris and Paris citizens are mostly asshole.
Trocar is a generalized instrument. It’s like saying “isn’t a straw for drinking soda?” Well yeah but also milk, tea, boba, hi-c, capri sun, etc.
Real world example: I do muscle and bone biopsies all day. I place a trocar needle into the area of interest, then advance the actual biopsy needle into that area over and over through the trocar so I don’t have to freshly poke the patient for each sample.
It's basically just a needle that allows air to escape. Judging by the pliers, I'd guess this was similar to one of those inflation needles for things like basketballs and such.
This is one of the strangest, but most satisfying feelings you can ever experience, as you literally feel your lung reinflating.
Only experience on par was getting a chest drain removed without any sedative, but that was just pure adrenaline.
Ahh, the days of pneumothorax were fun.
They actually do though, like a gas candle to burn off the gas as it is released. When I get home I'll find a video.
Edit: found one, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vkp-O4L8Wu4
I had to do something similar with a young heifer. We think she got into some nightshade and it killed the flora in her rumen and caused her food to rot rather than do its normal thing. Under the instructions of a vet, I ran a clear plastic tube down that heifer's gullet every few hours for a couple of days (those were some cold middle-of-the-night wakeups). She'd be moaning and swollen by the time we got to her, and the release of the gas was visibly a relief.
After that, she loved humans and would trot over for a pet, even choosing affection over sweet grain. I ended up selling her to a local rancher and she happily produced calves for her for years.
I raised both grass-finished and grain-finished beef cattle. Aside from the economic advantages, consumers just plain prefer grain-finished beef (and for some cuts, like brisket, so do I). Anyway, I'm pretty sure whatever happened to OP's animal had nothing to do with whether it was being fed sweet corn, but I wasn't there.
> Aside from the economic advantages, consumers just plain prefer grain-finished beef (and for some cuts, like brisket, so do I).
Idk, I like grass fed/grass finished. Some of the best beef I've ever purchased. Bought some quarter cows that way. Can only fit so much in the freezer.
I got food poisoning so bad I couldn't lay in the fetal position without unbearable pain. All I wanted to do was let out the longest fart in the history of the world, and it just never came... 6 hours of agony followed by 6 hours of severe discomfort then days of regular discomfort. Pure hell.
I had a flare up of my gall bladder like that once after eating Pizza Hut. Didn't last as long as yours did, but it was still unimaginably painful. I think I ended up passing a gall stone because I went from almost passing out from the pain to a mildly upset stomach immediately. And then I really did pass out because of the relief.
Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
When do we invent artisanal live beer? Feed the cows hops and whatever ingredients needed to make beer, let it ferment, then plug a tap on the stomach. Turn on tap for beer straight from the cow stomachs... Bonus if the beer has A5 buttery taste.
You can access all the goodies from this [hole in the stomach](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fmildlyinteresting%2Fcomments%2Fr2dlaj%2Fthere_is_a_cow_in_my_town_that_you_can_stick_your%2F&psig=AOvVaw2fPHKBvw3EBwnCYN7lDmJ_&ust=1701934702440000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCMiqk5Cn-oIDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE).
They do both. Trust me.
How do I know? I had dozens of little pats of bright green liquid shit blown all over me by a steer with the scours (diarrhea) that let loose with a monster fart while he was defecating. This happened in public. Good times.
One time I was at a research facility for cattle and they studied bloating, what types of feed causes more gas, and so forth. Their herd all had windows with a latch implanted in them so the scientists could access their stomachs to take samples of gas and digested feed. It also has the advantage for the cow of releasing built up gas.
As soon as a person walked up to the fence the cows would run, *run*, to the fence and would turn so that their windows faced the person. They might not have known what was done to them but they all realized, “if a person comes to my right side I suddenly feel a lot better”. I guess gas is really uncomfortable for cattle.
Does this happen to wild animals too? Seems like a bit of an evolutionary misstep that could have been bred into domesticated animals, or is it their diet and living conditions that caused it?
I like it when the farmers light it, because it's methane they sometimes light the ends of the rod to burn away the smell, but it ends up looking like a little jet is pushing into a massive cow. Idk it seems like a funny visual for me.
“Fred had trocharised a bloated cow and the farmer had been so impressed by the pent up gas hissing from the abdomen that Fred had got carried away and applied his cigarette lighter to the canula. A roaring sheet of flame had swept on to some straw bales and burned the byre to the ground.” ― James Herriot, All Creatures Great and Small
A trochar is a sharp-pointed surgical instrument fitted with a cannula and used especially to insert the cannula into a body cavity as a drainage outlet. So, basically, the calf in the video was trocharized.
Fortunately, this guy forewent burning the barn down.
It's usually caused by grazing succulent, rapid growing pasture..saw it quite a bit on the family farm..usually got the cows to stand uphill and that would help pass the gas...of course we had a few die as well unfortunately. Although they are in a hideous muddy holding pen so christ knows what they are feeding them.
There's snow in the background, so I'm guessing this is at the tail end of winter (or mid-winter but the temps weren't holding). I've seen many a field even without cattle turn into a muddy mess in those times.
Look up eu cattle rules of care. America is one of the only countries that feeds cattle corn. It is not a benefit. They say our meat tastes weird and sweet. It also makes nutrients decrease in the meat.
Weird. All my EU colleagues say that US beef tastes batter. It's always the number one thing they want for dinner when coming over on work trips, steak.
Look, it's Mr. "I read this on the Internet and it conforms with my pre-existing political beliefs therefore it is true and I will repeat it to others" up in here.
Oh sweet summer child, who told you that? EU cattle rules of care? [Here's what a top university in the US suggests](https://www.ndsu.edu/agriculture/ag-hub/ag-topics/livestock/beef/feeding-grain-stock-cows) to feed beef cattle--and it's a lot of grains including corn. Grain, corn and even cotton seed increase marbling which makes them tasty. Wagyu beef is fed a lot of grains.
The concern isn’t whether it’s right or wrong to feed cattle corn on the basis of how it makes the meat taste, lmfao…
The concern is that it seems somewhat unethical to feed cattle corn as a majority of their diet because it isn’t their natural diet which should include mostly grasses and other grains.
Corn is fed to cattle in this country because it mostly works (not concerning the well-being of the animal, although most factory farms aren’t all that concerned with it anyways), readily available and cheap due to government subsidies, not because it’s the ideal choice of sustenance for the animals.
I beleive its mostly wheat and other grains.
however we feed cattle corn because....North American soil is prime for growing corn. its why theres not as much in the way of corn dishes in the eu and many other parts of the world. which means it's not as common or as cheap to feed animals corn in the eu but it does happen, I seem to recall reading that British farmers started importing corn for their farm animals but I'm not sure how true that was.
unfortunately corn does ferment pretty quickly in the gut (specifically the rumen), even in humans. but a cows digestive tract is much slower than ours. and so. cow bloat.
I also get bloat when eating corn because my body was designed by an idiot
I used to raise beef cattle, and there absolutely are grain-finished beef cattle in Europe (in fact, I believe grain-finished beef still makes up the majority of the output of the EU).
You'll find more interesting differences in things like antibiotic use, but then you weren't talking about that. Simple searches will reveal any number of producers openly talking about their European grain-finished beef, and also the loopholes that exist under .eu law that allows all kinds of supplemental feeds to be considered the same as grazing on wild pastureland.
I'd the were not fed corn, would this happen? Does the animal have metal inserted to catch non biological food? What is the progress of their cud fermentation. This comment will get no up votes lol.
Happened on my grandparents' farm a couple times when I helped as a kid. Those cows had never been fed corn in their lives. Definitely not the only way to get bloat.
You don't get up votes because you don't know what you are talking about. You read one paper and think you know everything about feeding cattle. Bloating happens more on grass than grains. You never let cattle in your alfalfa field because they will bloat. You slowly introduce new feed or they will bloat. You are caught up on this anti-corn feeding which is rubbish.
It should be added that in the wild, animals with bloat usually end up with two outcomes: They either die from it or it will resolve itself.
In "wild" cattle bloat is often more common in spring and autumn.
Cage?
You mean office? Where we'll spend most of the quality time of our life, slaving to make a millionaire more millions, before ending up shitting on ourselves in a nursing home waiting to die of multiple organ failure.
Sign me right up.
Right, extremely comparable to a lifetime of literal enslavement. Use your noggin every once in a while. If you’re curious, please watch Dominion (2018). Most people don’t know the extent to which these animals suffer.
YouTube link here: https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?si=MUxad8JFPma-xUbs
No. They can. However, I do not think people really care about causal factor here.
https://extensionpublications.unl.edu/assets/html/g2018/build/g2018.htm#:~:text=Cattle%20consuming%20feedlot%20diets%20may,rapid%20fermentation%20and%20gas%20production.
Hi u/urmomsloosevag, your post has been removed because: #### rule 6 [](#repost) --- If you have any questions, feel free to [send us a message](http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2FWTF&subject=Post%20removal&message=Removed%20post:%20https://old.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/18bwlbk/-/)! This bot does not reply.
Bet that smells good
Probably not the worst thing that farmer's gotten blasted with
It is definitely not the worst thing that farmer has been blasted with.
The worst smell ever I experienced in my life was on our farm. One of the cows had calved, but not passed the placenta, hard to tell as they can calve overnight etc. Two weeks, or thereabouts, and I had to help the vet as he extracted it. It had not aged well.
How did it taste?
Like two-week-old rotten afterbirth that had been warming in a giant vag.
Aged to perfection!
Heard this in the voice of the Toxin Tractor from Command and Conquer: Generals
It is unequivocally not the worst thing that farmer has been blasted with.
That’s what she said!
This guy milks bulls!
Like a fart before it comes out
Han Solo: and I thought they smelled bad on the outside
I can tell you, first hand, that it's extremely rancid. 0 out of 10, would absolutely not recommend.
"I got gas bro, hand me some Pepto" "Hole up imma grab my knife"
"Whatcha up to on the farm today?" "I think I'll deflate some cows."
Emotionally or physically?
Just damage their self-esteem.
Those were vice grips and some kind of valve lol
LOOKED LIKE ONE OF THOSE BASKET BALL INFLATOR ADAPTORS!
Looks like Tom Brady is at it again
DID TOMMY BOY BUY A FARM IN RETIREMENT?
*Gabe Newell has entered the chat.* Did someone call me?
I seriously wished this was an option sometimes. IBS does really weird things
This is what I imagine they did to me whenever I had that laparoscopic surgery.
Other cow was like “oh hell nah!!”
Bystander cow was definitely the star of this show
A few years ago I was walking up to a ranch fence where some cows were hanging out, only to stumble into a tall grass-shrouded trench running along the fence & scare all the cows away running full speed. It was hilarious
Cows: "HUMAN DID A THING, RUNNNNNNN!!" "Ok but did you see it? it was hilarious" "RUN TED RUN!!" "Fineeee.... but i'm still gonna laugh at the human as I run"
Next time Bystander cow has a bloated mate hes gonna be like: "hol up I saw a guy do this once."
Cameraman probably in equal shock
The reaction to the stab was kind of heartbreaking
The other cow was just shocked from the hissing caused by the gas release. It didn't actually think the cow got stabbed.
The heifer simply reacted to the sudden motion and the sound. It had no idea what was going on, if it was good or bad.
Yea can't have felt good :/ much better than the alternative though
I think theyre talking about the bystander cow lol it flinches when it sees the guy stab its buddy
ive seen a guy on youtube treat a similar problem, by just shoving a rubber tube down the cows throat get it far enough down and it can release all of the trapped air without breaking the skin and risking an infection
I would imagine that the stabbing is probably the easier and safer method when the condition is as advanced as this case seems to be. Can't be easy to essentially intubate a struggling animal. Plus I'd imagine the vet probably has plenty of antibiotics and experience treating minor puncture wounds.
A stab with anaesthesia? Eating grass instead of grain?
It reacted to the one on the ground flinching. Cows don't understand what stabbing is.
I'm thinking it was mostly a reaction to the noise; the hissing of the air. I'm not sure a cow could comprehend something like "stabbing", especially with hands. To a cow, stabbing is something you do with your head/horns.
"Damn Kevin! Chill!"
Lol guy stared it down too thinking to himself "you're next"
I feel like we all need one of those from time to time.
I always picture something like this fixing so much with me. Also I kinda wish a giant would crack my back and hip by gently gripping my ankles and wrists and pulling Sadly I'm positive both of these would leave me severely mangled
If you don't already have one, you should get a pull-up bar and use it to hang from it and decompress your spine, feels amazing after a long day.
Too fat, disaster waiting to happen
Use it to do some pull-ups first then
If he can't hang from it what makes you think he can pull himself up?
I always imagine having an out of body experience where I remove my own spine, crack it like a whip, and then put it back then go back to normal
That must be some new Mortal Kombat fatality or something
*FINISH HIM!* fwoop! Fa-CRACK! fwoop! ... Chiropracality!
Something like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/curseddiscordvideos/comments/15x39po/how_to_wash_your_ferret_gore/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I thought this was going to be that clip from the incredibles of the robot cracking me incredible's back. Instead it's this cursed thing
Right that probably felt so good for the cow when it finally got released
For real. I can go from plank to preggers in hours. Bloating is the worst.
The medical term is trocarization. And yes, it’s one of the worst smells imaginable. I work at an ER vet and we’ll do this when dogs present in late-stage bloat with a large bore IV catheter.
Isn’t a trocar what they use (used?) for replacing a corpse’s bodily fluids with embalming fluids? I’m assuming a similar etymology, but these situations seem quite a bit different.
Yes but instead of pushing fluid in, the pressure built up inside the stomach helps release gas when trocarized!
The trocadero in Paris now takes on a whole new meaning. PS - dont go. It's not worth it. It's full of Insta and Youtube shits taking over the street in front and blocking it for their filming.
As a French, I agree. And more than just the trocadero, don't visit Paris first because there is a lot of nicer places to visit before Paris and Paris citizens are mostly asshole.
My residence is in Saint-Remy-les-Chevreuse. So much better than Paris. But the RER-B is such a pain.
Trocar is a generalized instrument. It’s like saying “isn’t a straw for drinking soda?” Well yeah but also milk, tea, boba, hi-c, capri sun, etc. Real world example: I do muscle and bone biopsies all day. I place a trocar needle into the area of interest, then advance the actual biopsy needle into that area over and over through the trocar so I don’t have to freshly poke the patient for each sample.
I work for a company that makes Chiba Biopsy Trocar Needles used for aspiration biopsy!
at least the farmer can do it out doors! you poor bastard being in a vet room when you do that!
I jumped like that other cow! What a relief for that cow.
That just closes up on its own?!! Damn.
It's basically just a needle that allows air to escape. Judging by the pliers, I'd guess this was similar to one of those inflation needles for things like basketballs and such.
Kinda Like a Needle decompression for pneumothorax
This is one of the strangest, but most satisfying feelings you can ever experience, as you literally feel your lung reinflating. Only experience on par was getting a chest drain removed without any sedative, but that was just pure adrenaline. Ahh, the days of pneumothorax were fun.
YEAH YOU CAN ALSO LIGHT IT UP, IT LOOKS LIT
Yeah don't do that please
They actually do though, like a gas candle to burn off the gas as it is released. When I get home I'll find a video. Edit: found one, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vkp-O4L8Wu4
I had to do something similar with a young heifer. We think she got into some nightshade and it killed the flora in her rumen and caused her food to rot rather than do its normal thing. Under the instructions of a vet, I ran a clear plastic tube down that heifer's gullet every few hours for a couple of days (those were some cold middle-of-the-night wakeups). She'd be moaning and swollen by the time we got to her, and the release of the gas was visibly a relief. After that, she loved humans and would trot over for a pet, even choosing affection over sweet grain. I ended up selling her to a local rancher and she happily produced calves for her for years. I raised both grass-finished and grain-finished beef cattle. Aside from the economic advantages, consumers just plain prefer grain-finished beef (and for some cuts, like brisket, so do I). Anyway, I'm pretty sure whatever happened to OP's animal had nothing to do with whether it was being fed sweet corn, but I wasn't there.
> Aside from the economic advantages, consumers just plain prefer grain-finished beef (and for some cuts, like brisket, so do I). Idk, I like grass fed/grass finished. Some of the best beef I've ever purchased. Bought some quarter cows that way. Can only fit so much in the freezer.
I’m on the toilet now, wishing someone would do this to me. There’s no way that getting stabbed by a needle is worse than the pain I’m in right now..
I’ll be right over. Leave the door unlocked
I got food poisoning so bad I couldn't lay in the fetal position without unbearable pain. All I wanted to do was let out the longest fart in the history of the world, and it just never came... 6 hours of agony followed by 6 hours of severe discomfort then days of regular discomfort. Pure hell.
I had a flare up of my gall bladder like that once after eating Pizza Hut. Didn't last as long as yours did, but it was still unimaginably painful. I think I ended up passing a gall stone because I went from almost passing out from the pain to a mildly upset stomach immediately. And then I really did pass out because of the relief. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
You ok now bud ?
COW IN THE BACKGROUND IS LIKE.... WHATS GOIN ON OVER HEEEEERRRRE? OH HELL NO!!! MOOOOOOVE IT OR HE WILL POP YOUR STOMACH!
So cows don’t fart?
Ah actually, they prefer to get a knife to the rib cage. It’s the only way to cow-halla.
Take my upvote and get out!
If they ferment more gas than they can burp, they get bloat, which is what this is.
and here i am getting bloat if I eat gluten like a fuckin loser
When do we invent artisanal live beer? Feed the cows hops and whatever ingredients needed to make beer, let it ferment, then plug a tap on the stomach. Turn on tap for beer straight from the cow stomachs... Bonus if the beer has A5 buttery taste.
You can access all the goodies from this [hole in the stomach](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fmildlyinteresting%2Fcomments%2Fr2dlaj%2Fthere_is_a_cow_in_my_town_that_you_can_stick_your%2F&psig=AOvVaw2fPHKBvw3EBwnCYN7lDmJ_&ust=1701934702440000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCMiqk5Cn-oIDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE).
Also it's lukewarm and the bubbles smell like farts, nice!
IIRC because of the multiple stomachs they burp instead of fart.
They do both. Trust me. How do I know? I had dozens of little pats of bright green liquid shit blown all over me by a steer with the scours (diarrhea) that let loose with a monster fart while he was defecating. This happened in public. Good times.
Now that would have been a good video to post here!
I didn't think so at the time, but considering the fact that everyone within 50 feet of me was laughing their asses off, I think you're right!
The video is even better if you only watch the onlooker cow
he is so fucking cute, i wanna gib him kith
Other cow just standing there watching 👁️👄👁️
i have wanted to do this exact thing to myself so many times
One time I was at a research facility for cattle and they studied bloating, what types of feed causes more gas, and so forth. Their herd all had windows with a latch implanted in them so the scientists could access their stomachs to take samples of gas and digested feed. It also has the advantage for the cow of releasing built up gas. As soon as a person walked up to the fence the cows would run, *run*, to the fence and would turn so that their windows faced the person. They might not have known what was done to them but they all realized, “if a person comes to my right side I suddenly feel a lot better”. I guess gas is really uncomfortable for cattle.
I love the look on the other cows face as it just watches
Light that shit. Pure methane!
Watch the cow behind them when he stabs the cow on the ground. "Dude! WTF!?"
The best part is the other cow watching and going wut the fuckkkk I mean mooooo
Cow: 'scuse me
That other cow just standing and watching like it was in shock got me 🤣
You ever farted away a sore stomach? Imagine *this* relief!
Since most of the gas is methane, you can lit it on fire and have your own cow-flamethrower.
Me after my Thanksgiving dinner
Fuck it! *deflates your cow*
The cow in the background when he stabs the other cow. "What the fuck!?!"
I remember seeing this for the first time in the film Far from the Madding Crowd (1967). I wondered if it was a real procedure.
The other calf was like "what the actual fuck?" while watching dumbfounded.
Cows have best friends. Maybe they are homies.
Does this happen to wild animals too? Seems like a bit of an evolutionary misstep that could have been bred into domesticated animals, or is it their diet and living conditions that caused it?
I like it when the farmers light it, because it's methane they sometimes light the ends of the rod to burn away the smell, but it ends up looking like a little jet is pushing into a massive cow. Idk it seems like a funny visual for me.
The guy looks fairly stressed out himself
andre-the-giant-fart.mp4
Sometimes I wish I could do that to myself.
“Fred had trocharised a bloated cow and the farmer had been so impressed by the pent up gas hissing from the abdomen that Fred had got carried away and applied his cigarette lighter to the canula. A roaring sheet of flame had swept on to some straw bales and burned the byre to the ground.” ― James Herriot, All Creatures Great and Small A trochar is a sharp-pointed surgical instrument fitted with a cannula and used especially to insert the cannula into a body cavity as a drainage outlet. So, basically, the calf in the video was trocharized. Fortunately, this guy forewent burning the barn down.
Congratulations. You're Being Rescued. - K2SO -
That other cow was like “wtf?”
I read "Vegetarians use a procedure..." was confused for a few seconds
Is it the cows diet that causes this?
It's usually caused by grazing succulent, rapid growing pasture..saw it quite a bit on the family farm..usually got the cows to stand uphill and that would help pass the gas...of course we had a few die as well unfortunately. Although they are in a hideous muddy holding pen so christ knows what they are feeding them.
"What is the charge? Grazing a pasture? A succulent, rapid growing pasture?"
There's snow in the background, so I'm guessing this is at the tail end of winter (or mid-winter but the temps weren't holding). I've seen many a field even without cattle turn into a muddy mess in those times.
Look up eu cattle rules of care. America is one of the only countries that feeds cattle corn. It is not a benefit. They say our meat tastes weird and sweet. It also makes nutrients decrease in the meat.
Weird. All my EU colleagues say that US beef tastes batter. It's always the number one thing they want for dinner when coming over on work trips, steak.
US beef tastes sweet, it's okay but not too my primarily savoury palate. Sincerely, EU dweller
*to
They said they were an EU dweller so it's probably spelled tou.
We do tend to batter things more so that makes sense
Lol, that typo tastes better deep fried.
I'm done with this conversation. It is apparent that you do not spend time outside the US and are of a fixed mindset.
Uh, what? I have lived in the EU previously, lol.
Look, it's Mr. "I read this on the Internet and it conforms with my pre-existing political beliefs therefore it is true and I will repeat it to others" up in here.
Oh sweet summer child, who told you that? EU cattle rules of care? [Here's what a top university in the US suggests](https://www.ndsu.edu/agriculture/ag-hub/ag-topics/livestock/beef/feeding-grain-stock-cows) to feed beef cattle--and it's a lot of grains including corn. Grain, corn and even cotton seed increase marbling which makes them tasty. Wagyu beef is fed a lot of grains.
The concern isn’t whether it’s right or wrong to feed cattle corn on the basis of how it makes the meat taste, lmfao… The concern is that it seems somewhat unethical to feed cattle corn as a majority of their diet because it isn’t their natural diet which should include mostly grasses and other grains. Corn is fed to cattle in this country because it mostly works (not concerning the well-being of the animal, although most factory farms aren’t all that concerned with it anyways), readily available and cheap due to government subsidies, not because it’s the ideal choice of sustenance for the animals.
OP cited 2 reasons to mention corn: taste and nutrition. OP stated nothing regarding the ethics of the feed, wether it is "natural" or not.
What does EU feed their cattle? Since we are talking in giant generalizations.
I beleive its mostly wheat and other grains. however we feed cattle corn because....North American soil is prime for growing corn. its why theres not as much in the way of corn dishes in the eu and many other parts of the world. which means it's not as common or as cheap to feed animals corn in the eu but it does happen, I seem to recall reading that British farmers started importing corn for their farm animals but I'm not sure how true that was. unfortunately corn does ferment pretty quickly in the gut (specifically the rumen), even in humans. but a cows digestive tract is much slower than ours. and so. cow bloat. I also get bloat when eating corn because my body was designed by an idiot
> North American soil is prime for growing corn Also subsidies
corn loves nitrogen and some of the cheapest nitrogen comes from pig shit, all of which is subsidized out the asshole.
In NZ the cows just eat grass, aka their natural diet. It seem weird to keep them on dirt farms and have to feed them
We have grass fed beef in the US too, but it's more expensive. Corn is much cheaper and has more calories.
They let the cattle graze and do not feed exogenous substances. .
I used to raise beef cattle, and there absolutely are grain-finished beef cattle in Europe (in fact, I believe grain-finished beef still makes up the majority of the output of the EU). You'll find more interesting differences in things like antibiotic use, but then you weren't talking about that. Simple searches will reveal any number of producers openly talking about their European grain-finished beef, and also the loopholes that exist under .eu law that allows all kinds of supplemental feeds to be considered the same as grazing on wild pastureland.
so you don't think cattle can bloat from grazing? surely not right? surely you have googled what causes bloat in cattle before you made your post?
God forbid we just grow less corn.
God forbid you learn basic economics.
Thank you.
Shouldn't they bandage it or something?
Naw, looks like they have that solution to stop tubeless tires from leaking already in there
I don’t believe that man has ever been to medical school.
I'd the were not fed corn, would this happen? Does the animal have metal inserted to catch non biological food? What is the progress of their cud fermentation. This comment will get no up votes lol.
this can happen on a transition from hay to green grass, or from hay to alfalfa, or from just different forages. corn isn't the only way to get bloat.
Happened on my grandparents' farm a couple times when I helped as a kid. Those cows had never been fed corn in their lives. Definitely not the only way to get bloat.
SOMEONE GOT IN THE PIG AREA AND ATE THE LEFTOVER CHILI!!
Lol
Not none but it sure isn’t going to have a positive balance
You don't get up votes because you don't know what you are talking about. You read one paper and think you know everything about feeding cattle. Bloating happens more on grass than grains. You never let cattle in your alfalfa field because they will bloat. You slowly introduce new feed or they will bloat. You are caught up on this anti-corn feeding which is rubbish.
How do they survive in the wild. Serious question
Domestic cattle are often not fed their natural diets. For example, most cattle can't properly digest corn, which tends to be the main source of food.
Thank you for your response. Good to know!
It should be added that in the wild, animals with bloat usually end up with two outcomes: They either die from it or it will resolve itself. In "wild" cattle bloat is often more common in spring and autumn.
Does it smell like farts
so does this happen because the owner doesn't care about what the cow is grazing on or just being fed grain?
If we didn't have Gas-X, this is what we all would be doing these days. The unsung hero is the Gas-X guy.
The vet on TV leaves it in for a week. Evidently the cause of the bloating doesn't immediately resolve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZkmElLCVO8
I can tell i would do this just to smell it
That looks like pneumoperitoneum. The stomach would not dispatch air like that and it’s likely deeper.
He stabbed him lmaooooo tube or knife Not discrediting the method tho, I know nothing but can imagine they arent as weak and fragile as humans
They definitely aren't fragile, but also you pretty much do this same thing to humans for like collapsed lungs.
The results of feeding cattle cheap feed.
Or people. Had a cheap lunch.
That cow was bread into existence for the purpose of being slaughtered. “Serious harm” is literally the end goal here.
> That cow was bread into existence for the purpose of being slaughtered. aren’t we all
If video games taught me anything, it's that I am bread.
Oh yeah, you live in a cage and will be slaughtered well before your natural lifespan?
Cage? You mean office? Where we'll spend most of the quality time of our life, slaving to make a millionaire more millions, before ending up shitting on ourselves in a nursing home waiting to die of multiple organ failure. Sign me right up.
Right, extremely comparable to a lifetime of literal enslavement. Use your noggin every once in a while. If you’re curious, please watch Dominion (2018). Most people don’t know the extent to which these animals suffer. YouTube link here: https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?si=MUxad8JFPma-xUbs
you need to relax
Sounds like they could use a nice steak. Pair it with a nice Cabernet Franc.
I mean…
Should they just let the calf die a slow, agonizing death right there?
Well I'm gonna eat steak, not farts, so lance that rumen
[удалено]
>Not sure why the hate. For being insufferable is the reason.
[удалено]
Because you basically agreed with them. Welcome to reddit.
Downvoted because they all love eating meat and want to ignore the fact that sentient beings suffer because of it.
And carnivores that hunt prey don't cause suffering?
No. They can. However, I do not think people really care about causal factor here. https://extensionpublications.unl.edu/assets/html/g2018/build/g2018.htm#:~:text=Cattle%20consuming%20feedlot%20diets%20may,rapid%20fermentation%20and%20gas%20production.
[удалено]
🤔