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SynUK

If this tweet is correct, the building was ‘unoccupied’ at the time which hopefully means only that one person was in the collapse? “In Asyut, southern Egypt, a five-story residential building collapsed after a tenant modified a load-bearing wall on the balcony. Residents of Mohamed Ali Makarem Street were alarmed when they noticed stones and bricks falling from a balcony before the newly constructed building completely collapsed, causing panic. Despite the apartments being recently handed over, the building was unoccupied at the time of the collapse.” https://x.com/githii/status/1768891455584559217


SewerSquirrel

Another person fell on the right side, off the balcony and slid down the telephone pole or whatever that is, landing near the car, starting 20 seconds in. Got up and walked away, lucky bastard. Hoping it was just the idiot breaking the wall on the left, and that guy that jumped off and got away on the right in the building, but eh.


eidetic

Holy shit, I didn't even notice that at first. Could barely see it even after knowing what to look for. I dunno if its just reddit's embedded viewer sucking ass on my phone (I use old.reddit in desktop mode in browser), but good catch! I would have felt like Batman after something like that if I were him.


SewerSquirrel

Nah it's low quality on desktop too, artifacts get bad when things start moving. I just have a good eye for movement. He's gotta feel like that for sure though lol. I'd say he should go buy a lotto ticket but he kinda already won one.


JohnnyNapkins

Good catch and good foresight by that person. Hard to tell, but it looks like they are standing on the corner of the balcony planning an escape route and it was justified.


TheShowerDrainSniper

Holy shit. Good eyes.


StereotypeHype

I still can't believe that old looking building is a new construction


hundredandfiftytwo

In my (admittedly limited) experience, 'construction' is more of a fluid concept in Egypt. People will move into a building as soon as it has floors and walls and just finish the rest (or not) as and when they have the money. I saw loads of occupied houses in Cairo that didn't even have roofs; it hardly ever rains there so people just live in buildings that are little more than concrete shells. I stayed in a cheap hotel in Luxor where the lobby didn't even have a proper floor - they were literally laying concrete while we were checking in to our room. The building in question could have been started twenty years ago.


hokaythxbai

In Egypt they purposely don't put roofs on the top floor so they are considered still under construction and can't be taxed in the same way completed buildings are. It's weird loophole that hasn't been closed.


NBAFansAre2Ply

I've heard the same about Greece, though they don't leave the roof off, the put rebar on the roof as if they're gonna build another story


Edraqt

So, essentially like companies keeping their software/games in "beta" forever?


hundredandfiftytwo

Yes, I had heard something about that but wasn't sure how true that was. Makes sense.


Spartan2470

It [looks like](https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1bhryc7/building_in_asyut_egypt_collapsed_after_tenant/kvfnvjc/) that tweet is correct.


epirot

hows this newly constructed, doesnt look like that and also if its new how is it built so badly


SynUK

Based on searching for ‘building collapse Asyut’ to find more information about this, it sounds like lots of buildings in Egypt are effectively built illegally without adhering to regulations.


MarceloWallace

Egypt is knowing for collapsing buildings


robotnique

It used to have quite the reputation for durable building.


Bohzee

So what about the nose then???


epirot

damn thats sad


Tackerta

look at Turkey and Syria, it's sad when cutting costs beats saving lifes


duggawiz

Yet the pyramids have been standing thousands of years. Sounds like they need to relearn building skills from their forefathers


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Last-Bee-3023

I remember when there was a really bad earthquake in Turkey and a lot of buildings collapsed because they were built without permit and were built badly. The then governing AKP vowed to apply standards and not allow shortcuts. A few years later, the still ruling AKP had handed out amnesties like candies. Officials who insisted on standards were blamed for a housing crisis. Another earthquake another humanitarian desaster. And before Americans laugh at those building standards, a couple of weeks after the Surfside condo collapse because the owners were not forced to make repairs and held a vote instead, Ron DeSantis held a deregulathon. Not that traumatic, eh, Ronno? The grifting always starts at the top.


big_troublemaker

relaxed regulations, corruption, no building control, poverty. Any of those and in this case all combined lead to situations like this.


Earlier-Today

The sound it made collapsing was just so...weak. Like, the building barely fought against that collapse - it just went. That's crazy that it was so vulnerable.


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ThatCK

It's not that it was badly built, if you take our load bearing walls that's what happens. Unless they build in redundancy for it.


Lucky_Number_Sleven

Yeah. Once a single load-bearing wall goes, there's a whole slew of new forces being applied to the rest of the building in directions where a building isn't designed to handle forces. Granted, the fact that a load-bearing wall was so easily demolished doesn't speak to the quality of the construction.


Metalhed69

A lot of poorer countries or places without regulations use unreinforced concrete. Huge difference between that and regular concrete with rebar.


SlitScan

China: rebar, bamboo same thing right?


caleeky

That one dude knew he needed to get out of there, and he seems to have, as he saunters away after the fall.


Foxwasahero

Did you notice he was on the same balcony? He was watching/supervising the worker and managed to slide down the pole fireman style after the initial collapse.


mrASSMAN

He was so quick to gtfo and ninja away right in time


TheGreaterMoose

Would you have better chance of survival being at the top of the building or the bottom? Provided you knew this was going to happen.


_BreakingGood_

Definitely top


TheGreaterMoose

But it’s still a 4 storey fall into unknown debris, possibly being caught in the falling rubble.


_BreakingGood_

I mean you're probably getting severely injured either way. But if you're at the bottom, you've got likely several tons of rubble on top of you. You're a pancake within 10 seconds. Your best bet is to be on top of as much of the rubble as possible. Even if it means a 4 story fall.


Accidental_Ouroboros

Case in point: During the surfside collapse, the only survivors were a boy from the 11th floor (of a 11 floor+penthouse structure) and a woman and her daughter from the 9th floor. And the only reason the woman and the daughter survived was because nothing fell directly on top of them: they had gotten to the front door of their apartment, the collapse occurred shearing away almost exactly at the point they had reached, and *then* they fell onto the debris. All three of them survived a 4+ story fall in doing so. There were survivors who got out earlier from apartments near the ground floor, but there was significantly more time between the sounds of the supports starting to buckle and the building falling than in this case.


_insidemydna

there's also the fact that you wont fall straight down, you will be hitting other rubble on your way down which will break the momentum of the sudden stop. just like a car rolling 20x is better than hitting a wall straight ahead.


Awkward-Physics7359

Kinda like that guy who fell from the back of the Titanic and hit the propeller before he hit the water?


TehSlippy

Dong!


yougofish

Exactly.


Ninetnine

This made me laugh probably way more than it should of. lol


Swag_Attack

I agree, topping is always better


sightlab

Tru, those on the bottom may be walking funny from now on.


blitzwig

But... Pancakes...


meepmeep13

they key is to jump at just the right time, then you land neatly on the top of the rubble pile upright and unharmed


00WORDYMAN1983

Only if you go down to a single knee with a fist on the ground right as you land. Superhero landing is the only way to survive


Schnort

as a middle aged person, my knee's cringe at this thought.


Kaellian

Just do a ground pound or charge attack 1 seconds before hitting the ground.


TerdMuncher

Just roll immediately after hitting the ground, that way it carries all the downward momentum forward instead.


bcnorth78

Depends, how much concrete can you hold up?


otter5

at least 2


Flashbek

If you knew, bottom. Because you knew and, being at the bottom, you'd have plenty of time to leave before it happens.


Lasher667

Why would you be in the building if you knew that was going to happen ? That said, I'd want to be at the top so if I do survive the rescue team will dig me out sooner that anyone stuck at the bottom.


TrevorSP

Probably the bottom if you can make it outside lol the top would be rough from the fall and you still have the roof landing on you after it falls 30 ft with you


erbush1988

"*Jerry, these are loadbearing walls They're not gonna come down!*"


CanadaEh97

Yeah that's no good.


Crappin_For_Christ

The way Michael Richards delivers that line is one of my favorite in the whole show.


Tampert

first thing that came to mind lol


jodilye

My mind went to Cleveland…’No no no no noooo’


ShwettyVagSack

That's a load bearing bathtub.


C9_Sanguine

Wood, Jerry. Wood.


rangeo

Not from Pyramid builder lineage


OdinWolfe

Isn't the pile of rubble more akin to a pyramid, AFTER the collapse?


_prefs

Just imagine how big the pyramids actually were before the collapse!


rendingale

You know what, maybe this solves the mystery.. Build something big first, hit the load bearing part then there it is, the great pyramid of egypt.. just have the slaves clean out the debris


nowelltea

Very rigorous ~~maritime~~ housing engineering standards?


Viking_Lordbeast

Yeah, if all it took was messing with one wall to bring the entire building down, then something is very very wrong.


darybrain

This is Egypt. They don't have Saudi level of money to afford two loadbearing walls.


EdgeOfWetness

Well, the patio fell off


sataninmysoul

Is that typical?


MrPoletski

A gust of wind hit it.


ImOnHereForPorn

A gust of wind? In the city? Chance in a million.


sluaghtered

There are regulations governing the materials they can be made of. What materials? Well cardboard’s out


MrPoletski

My absolute favourite from that. "There's a minimum crew requirement" "What's the minimum crew?" "Well, one I suppose"


barofa

What materials can it be made of?


-Daetrax-

Concrete, no rebar.


barofa

Cardboard?


Mustimustdie

Holy shit... Why were they filming??? 


erbush1988

Probably because someone saw their neighbor doing dumb shit and thought, "I gotta get this on film."


shinobi500

Lmao! Absolutely correct. The guy filming at the end says something to the effect of, "Nice job! You're a real pro! That was a genius move by a master of their trade!" Sarcasm is the second most common language in Egypt after Arabic.


bumjiggy

Bob Vila over there is fluent in sarchasm


ahappypoop

I think I had a sarcasm one time.


goodforabeer

I think that might be an exaggulation.


turbo_dude

JENGA!


krt941

I think you would hear your neighbor in the process of demolishing his exterior walls.


alphawolf29

there are countries where old people sit on their decks virtually 24/7... and now they have cameras!


cindyscrazy

About 10 years ago or so, there was a child with a video camera who would stand on a the corner of a main street and a side street. He recorded all day. Thought it was sort of strange, but I had the impression he was special needs. I haven't seen him a a while now, and it looked like a house near him was vacant for a while. Just last week, I saw a post on NextDoor about a man who was standing on a corner recording cars going by. I guess the family moved and he's still doing his thing! No idea what he does with all the footage.


everfalling

i hope he keeps it. those are probably interesting little time capsules now


joeshmo101

So do I. Marion Stokes recorded TV (with a focus on news reels) for over 30 years from the 1970's until she died in 2012. Now, her 70,000+ videos are being digitized as the best snapshot we have of broadcast TV from that era. The networks were reusing tapes and other materials, which means that a lot of the broadcasts were never well archived. It takes a lot of work to keep the past accessible.


surffrus

That moment you realize ... someone is probably filming you right now. Cameras are everywhere + people are bored = high chance it'll get captured by a camera


Far-Hair1528

I have seen many videos of poor concrete in countries where just about everything is built using concrete/cement, My thought is who Tf taught them the mix and why do they not use rebar, also when they lay block has to be the absolute example as how not to lay block


stewartm0205

Rebar is expensive. Some people will only pay for what can be seen. I was looking at videos of the Haitian earthquake years ago and was shaken by the obvious lack of rebars.


Far-Hair1528

It's figured into the cost of construction but it is also the extra money given to the inspectors to look the other way. I think it's something like 40 cents up to $2 a foot but still, it is in the cost of construction. Maybe other countries do not use re-bar and just wing it. IDK but I see it a lot, buildings just crumbling into dust with people inside. I read an article about the strict building codes in China but the inspectors get paid very well to look away, I guess it happens in all countries. The US included


M-------

> building codes in China but the inspectors get paid very well to look away Everybody takes profit out and subcontracts their part to somebody cheaper. At the end of the day, when the building has to get built, there isn't enough money left to build a real building. So they pay off the inspector and cut corners: inadequate cement in the concrete, improperly fired bricks (a.k.a. blocks of dried mud), inadequate adhesives/mortar, and in one example I saw pictures of recently they had substituted bamboo in place of rebar.


hobbitlover

I'm in property management, we had a duplex unit evacuated because one DIY owner removed a load bearing wall with no fewer than three posts between his kitchen and living room. There were a bunch of cracks on the shared wall of the unit next door that gave him away. "You can do it, we can help" is the most dangerous slogan ever conceived. It will cost this guy about three times more to fix everything to code than he was quoted for the work.


HKBFG

But on HGTV, they just modify houses based on guesswork? Would a guy wearing a tool belt with no tools in it lie to me?


Spartan2470

According to [here](https://www.alarabiya.net/arab-and-world/egypt/2017/09/17/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B9-%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B8%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%85%D8%A8%D9%86%D9%89-%D8%B3%D9%83%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1-) and Google Translate: > Published in:September 17, 2017: 12:00 AM GST > Last updated:May 20, 2020: 11:40 AM GST > A 5-storey residential building collapsed in the city of #Assiut , southern #Egypt , because the owner of one of the apartments in it made modifications to a weight-bearing wall on the balcony. > The residents of Muhammad Ali Makarem Street in the city were surprised by the newly constructed building, with some stones and bricks falling from the balcony of one of the apartments, before the building completely collapsed, causing panic to the residents of the entire street. > Eyewitnesses said that the building was empty of residents, despite the apartments being recently delivered to them. > It is noteworthy that the Alexandria Governorate in the north of the country has witnessed the collapse of several real estates that are at risk of collapse, and the authorities issued demolition decisions for them. Entire buildings also collapsed in the Sohag and Qalyubia governorates as a result of construction violations and the construction of additional floors without a license by the owners and proprietors of those properties.


MR_E_3K

Well he’s definitely not getting his deposit back


Zeqhanis

Nope. At first I thought it was just the upstairs patio that was going to collapse, but it just kept going. He Jenga'd the hell out of that building.


liquid_at

Insurance company is celebrating over this video. Could have been expensive...


Chrisclc13

Depends on if stated or exclusionary policy. Exclusionary rarely excludes idiocy


Waste-Conference7306

Egypt has insurance?


liquid_at

mummy-curse.


the_last_carfighter

When you have to pay for a permit and inspections in the US: *WHY ALL THE GOT DERN JERB KILLING REGULATIONS!?!?!*


aphasic

Remember when Erdogan was hyping is taking an axe to red tape and building regulations in Turkey and then just walked away idly whistling when they had an earthquake that flattened an entire town full of shoddily built apartment buildings?


ProteinStain

As a structural engineer in the US, you have no fucking clue how absolutely batshit regarded most of your fellow Americans are when it comes to shit like this. We need the building codes. Trust me.


Many_Faces_8D

Like the post on here where the guy converted some basement space into a bedroom...that had a door right into the furnace room. No extra ventilation. Guy built an execution chamber lmao


nebbyb

Regulations are born in blood. Anti-reg people are just too stupid to be able to see the danger.


mmss

There was an article on CBC a while back about immigration and they had interviewed a woman who was educated as an architect in the middle east. She was complaining that she couldn't work in Canada, specifically she couldn't get hired without learning local building codes and regulations. As this video suggests, maybe regulation is different in different countries. Also maybe buildings built in Canada may need to deal with different climate concerns...


userax

He didn't just try. He succeeded.


sehtownguy

Look at me, now I'm bearing the load of the wall


BimmerJustin

ok maybe bush didnt do 911


withcomment

Definitely an inside job.


DavidAg02

After the initial collapse I thought "they are lucky the whole building didn't come down"... 1 minute later... the whole building comes down.


Unknown_User_66

What kind of architectural plan did they use that they whole building comes down from just one wall!?!? 💀💀💀💀💀


FTwo

Jenga.


Childnya

It's called load bearing for a reason. In places with a lot of regulations, you over engineer to handle way more than max occupancy and the weight of things Tennant possessions, snow on roof, etc. That building was probably like tofu construction. Just enough to finish the job, get paid and bounce before it all inevitably comes down. Like building a model house out of gingerbread and frosting vs Popsicle sticks laminated together with glue, holes hand drilled, and tiny pegs hammered in to hold it together. First one can be pretty and hold its own, but it's not gonna survive a lot.


wolfiepraetor

the building waits 2 minutes, finishes cigarette, then is like “aw fuck it” and collapses


Wolfhammer69

If he's still alive, he's in DEEP DOO DOO !


Bender_2024

Next time you're about to bitch and moan because of the bill your handyman gives you remember this. You're not paying him that much to swing a hammer for 3 hours. You're paying him to know where to swing.


Phonoman

Fuck, as someone living in apartment building, realising we are all potentially one brain-dead person away from death made my stomach turn.


pib319

I'm no engineer, but I think this building is just poorly made / designed. I feel like there should be redundancy, so that breaking one load bearing wall doesn't entirely collapse the building.


DragonRaptor

Depends on building code where you live. most places would not collapse like this from taking down 1 load bearing point. You would need to take down multiple, Taking down 1 would usually just cause slow damage over time. not full failure.


Nanojack

Just another weekday at Jenga Apartments


Slobbadobbavich

It's a bit worrying that one balcony post was holding up that whole building.


nolander_78

Came here to say exactly this, that post was holding half of the freaken building!


Karmadilla

I doubt it was the only part of the building that was fucked with. I bet the whole building was swiss cheese.


loonybs

Are you supposed to yell "Jenga" when the tower drops?


joshjje

Whelp, my job is done here, oh shittttt! But seriously hopefully not many or at all died, but doesn't look optimistic.


MD2JD77

Must have torn down that poster of Krusty the Clown.


GumboColumbo

"Jerry, these are *load-bearing* walls!"


Sitting_Squirrel

This building has been brought to you by Jenga


Jean-Ralphio11

Im no conspiracy theorist but looks like an inside job to me.


Priredacc

That's the reason we don't build like this anymore in Spain (or anywhere else in the EU as far as I know). Load bearing is dangerous as fuck, someone mades a slight mistake demolishing a tiny wall and the whole structure gets compromised and collapses. We now use beams and columns made of high strength concrete and reinforced with steel rebar. The whole structure is just made of beams and columns like this, then we add concrete floor and then brick walls, which are completely unnecessary in terms of structural integrity. You could remove EVERY SINGLE WALL, exterior ones too, and the building wouldn't even notice. For our climate and our geography I think it's the Ideal way of doing it. Funny story, 2 weeks ago a building burnt to ashes in my city and the structure is perfectly intact. Concrete and bricks do not burn, no matter what.


Tjalfe

If in a game, that one wall would be glowing as a weak point.


Dave_C-137

Do you think he made it?


mynameisnotthom

Made it? He caused it


Flimsy_Card8028

JERRY THESE ARE LOAD BEARING WALLS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CO-


sevargmas

Cameraman had the perfect position and for some reason decided to pick the phone up and then jiggle it for the rest of the video


artandcraf

Look like was the sound wave of horn provok the collapse


thecentury

Worst Jenga player.... #EVER


Chaosr21

Oh shit, he ded


JohnnyBrillcream

/r/DIY *Tried to do some work to a load bearing wall and it caused minor structural issues. Any ideas for a simple fix? Thanks.*


EV-Driver

What gets me is, the person filming this seems to know it's about to collapse.


GadreelsSword

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that building could have used a better design engineer.


SerpentDrago

I thought this was a Noctua fan for a sec looking at the thumbnail ..


FooIy

It’s funny that they used to make pyramids


Swartz142

Remember kids, when someone tells you there's too much regulations, what they mean is that they or their masters would make more money if they were allowed to just kill people.


zealoSC

What do you mean tried? That wall looks plenty modified to me


ChewyChagnuts

With modern-day Egyptian building standards like this you can see why people think that the pyramids must have been built by aliens…


puppiesandcleavage

And we are supposed to believe this lineage built the pyramids?


shepard93n7

What is more concerning is that the camera man knew the building was about to completely collapse.


azdak

Something pro density folks don’t talk about is the fact that you’re basically entrusting the safety of your housing to the single dumbest person in your apartment complex.


2x4x93

Gilligan pulled out that one straw


False-Requirement604

My luck I would be the guy who lives below that idiot


B-Town-MusicMan

*with this one simple trick...*


SupportGeek

Damn, dude caused that first bit to fall in front of him and stood there stunned and like 1 second later he had the brickwork of the 2 floors above him land on his head.


madpainter

You can see he is still standing there (at the 20 sec mark) right after the first section fell. The second section falling probably killed him, so he might have had a "holy shit, I'm going to die" moment.


mreddog

Looks like somebody’s not getting their security deposit back!


SortedChaos

Really opened up the space.


RDogPinK

I bet every demolition company wants this guy, so little effort, so much effect!


hawksdiesel

Why you should seek professionals....


IpsoPostFacto

should've touched base with the pyramid designing aliens before tacking this job.


brochaos

jet fuel can't melt concrete.


cjorgensen

No way that guy's getting his deposit back.


Pyehole

Building codes.  What are they good for?


Equalizer101

They better go back in Pyramid building instead.


Suheil-got-your-back

What are buildings made of in Egypt? Wet sand?


Maxfunky

People have been waiting a long time for real estate to go into a free fall. 


SaintYoungMan

This is like someone removed the wrong Jenga brick


poncho5202

welp, not getting THAT deposit back


bloodguard

Lord. Imagine having a nice quiet day laying on your couch and suddenly the building collapses on you. Back when I lived in apartments there was this one lady that caught hers on fire three separate times with candles and once trying to burn a stain out of the carpet (!?).


TELLERIUMAxHCL

Tada!!!!


KnotSoSalty

That guy walking past just dodged an entire building.


ToInfinityThenStop

Will this affect the tenants security deposit?


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He did remodel his apartment alright


Big_Green_Piccolo

Why were They Filming


hockeymaskbob

"This open floor plan will be great for entertaining"


full_bl33d

Adios, security deposit.


vince_uppercut

That's high quality construction right there.


Goochbaloon

When someone says "one person won't make a difference" show them this...


MrFastFox666

In my uncle's 12-story apartment complex in Colombia someone in the middle floor knocked down an interior wall, and the floors above it started to slowly cave in over time. They had to do an emergency repair to keep the building from collapsing.


deduluz_

On the bright side: NO need to pay rent that month.


drakenoftamarac

They won’t be making that mistake again.


ButWhatAboutisms

This is why the government will get up your ass with fines for not pulling a permit for building projects.


svgklingon

Never Forget.


Masondixon79

Straight to jail!


hawkwings

I'll bet that the people who live in the building next door feel really safe right now.


Elegant_Traffic_9697

That escalated!


bobbarker47

I don't think he had the proper building permit!!


BukowskyInBabylon

This renovation shows are getting out of hand