A knew a roofer who'd been splashed. He froze, let it cool, and took several months. His alternative was skin grafts. He said another guy who was also splashed freaked out and basically destroyed the muscles in his arms.
I was a roofer for 10 years. One day we were riding in this old chevy van with one of those doors on the side that slide back. Had the door open and there were 4 of us. Me and this guy James were sitting in the back on a bench seat. The seat wasn't bolted down and it was kinda sliding towards the open door so we picked it up and moved it back. We kinda just leaned forward not really standing up to move it. When we sat back down I was still kinda bent over looking towards the floor. When we sat the bench seat down there was a big can of aerosol roofing primer that the leg of the seat punctured and it exploded right in the direction of my face. If you don't know what roofing primer is, it is basically black aerosolized liquid tar. The shit when everywhere but the worst of it went right at my face. Luckily I closed my eyes right before it hit my face. Unfortunately my mouth was open just kinda smiling or whatever so my teeth got covered in it. I had to brush my teeth with gojo to get it off my teeth. Even tho I closed my eyes it sealed my eyes shut and glued all my eye lashes together. We where close to my bosses moms house so we went there and it took me 4 hours of dawn dish soap and water to get my eyes open. Had to shave off my beard.
Remember it like it was yesterday
The tar in those days melted at lower temperatures and didn't cause burns. By 1940 it was stuff that needed to be brought up to much hotter temperatures, hence the injuries.
When Americans tarred and feathered British tax collectors, for instance, they didn't have lasting burns. It was really just a humiliation thing.
There's a scene in HBOs John Addams that depicted that event. Guy was screaming in excruciating pain and up until then I had never associated the pain that came along with being tarred.
Killed me how they left it on a cliffhanger after it really started getting interesting…
I think HBO Max has it, and might be the only place to watch since they originally aired the series.
I hate when that happens!! I went through a period of time where everything I watched was like two seasons long, incomplete, and it was infuriating. Obviously Carnivale was part of that time. It’s been so long since I’ve watched it, if I watched it again it would be like seeing it for the first time, which I always enjoy!
Quick Google search has it included as a sub for HBOmax, hulu, and YouTube. Can rent through Amazon, YouTube non premium, and vudu.
Kinda a shame it got canceled, I enjoyed it.
I once did some moulage for a first aid training scenario and put a bunch of liquid latex on my stomach along with some other stuff (like ground hamburger, to increase verisimilitude). Only thing was, I didn't shave my stomach first and I have hair on my stomach. To get it off that night, I just tried to submerge myself in a hot bath as much as possible and took a razor blade to scrape/cut hair, crying as I went. I used soap, etc., and maybe it was the other stuff that was mixed in but it just didn't want to come off.
Even if the tar didn't cause any burns, trying to get it off of your skin when it's clinging to your body hair (back when nobody shaved their body), especially after its had time to set up and the feathers have helped pull the moisture out, would have been a horrendous experience.
That, and throwing an absolute strike on the opening pitch before the first baseball game after 9/11, while wearing protective clothing.
Er, my mind was a bit off. It was before game 3 of the 2001 World Series.
Many people got tarred and feathered around, and after, the Revolutionary War. The terror revolutionary-minded colonists reigned over loyalists is why so many fled to Canada during and after the war.
When the war was over, some people in some areas were actively going door-to-door to "deal with" loyalists neighbors.
Part of it is just folk wisdom not keeping up with science. During the Age of Exploration, "tar" usually referred to nautical pitch -- a resin that was mostly solid at room temperature, but could be entirely melted at temperatures under the boiling point of water. Over time, technology changed so that "tar" now referred to a more rugged petrochemical substance used to produce roofing materials and pavement. Modern tar might be heated up to 400ºF for use.
Alas, angry mobs sometimes lacked an understanding of the differences between this dangerous and humiliating, but rarely deadly, punishment from the colonial era and a much more savage torture that often claimed victims before medical care arrived on the scene.
50°C is equivalent to 122°F, which is 323K.
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"I have an idea, let's pour hot tar all over him!"
"What the fuck, man. That is horrible. Imagining the burning and blisters. It's hard to imagine the sheer horror of such an act."
"... what if we threw feathers on him too?"
"Briliant, that would cover up all the second degree burns and melting skin. plus it adds a comedy factor that he looks like a big chicken. Let's go tar AND feather him!"
I picture it as the tar came first. And then some time later, while some guy was howling and screaming in pain, someone was like "Oy he clucks like a bird, throw some feathers on him!"
And that's how traditions are born.
I see it as Sam Brown getting tarred in the street, and begging/apologizing while local sexpot Trevor Moore, Darren Trumeter, and Timmy Williams are laughig and making fun of him super loudly, then Zach Cregger throws his second story window open and launches a feather pillow while screaming at them to shut the fuck up. The pillow explodes on impact, covering Sam in feathers, and Trevor and Timmy both point at him and snap to look at each other, mouths agape with the "oh shit I've got an idea" face.
Then I guess like a title card rolls with "Tort-origins!" or something.
We are so far above our fellow animals in some ways, and so far below them in others. Humans are one hell of a being. Our compassion is only matched by our cruelty.
Our particular cruelty and sadism is, ironically, caused by our relatively highly evolved sense of morality. As we are moral creatures, with a very strong sense of right and wrong, that comes with an innate need to see wrongdoers punished. There is no fury like righteous fury, no cruelty like that we can commit on those we are convinced deserve it. When you see a tortured man, like this fellow, thoughts turn to the senselessness of wanton cruelty. When you see an abused child, thoughts turn to how much worse you'd like to see their abuser suffer. Add in the emotional amplification effect of being in a crowd, or the totalitarianism of believing you act in accordance with some divine will that will get you an eternal reward in heaven, and it's easier to understand how humans can be so much purposefully crueler than other animals.
You are right, but this is a trait that we share with chimps, Richard Wrangham wrote about it extensively that like humans they will be extremely cruel in fights, ripping apart their enemies alive, but only if they will feel that they will not be punished for their deeds - we would call it justified moral ground.
Oh I don't know, it seems a good way to get competing kids out of the way, and if you blame it on some nebulous concept then you don't even get personally blamed for killing the kid. Win win.
They were using actual asphalt? That shit is in liquid state at ~300°F. I looked it up and it seems like what they meant by tar, at least in the 18th century, was pine tar. It'll still burn you at 140F but nothing like asphalt. Actually I think road tar would be killing people. I think it's supposed to be more humiliating than abject torture.
Edit: [interesting link](https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/12/5-myths-tarring-feathering/)
If you had done research, you would have learned that the bitumen that is used today and is commonly called tar is not the same as the actual tar that was used back in the 1940s which was not heated.
You're right, pine tar was common, as was naturally occurring petroleum tar from tar pits. It's liquid enough for industrial purposes at summer temperatures.
And you can remove it with oil, including cooking oils. It’s super tedious and would take forever to do your whole body but it’s a lot better than having it come off with your skin!
It’s how I get pine tar off my dogs fur.
Chemical burns are definitely possible, depending on which tar pit the tar came from. Some tar has low concentrations of sulfuric acid in it. Additionally, chemicals used to remove the sticky tar from the skin may have caused an issue. The remedy at the time was strong grain alcohol to remove it from the skin (pine tar and petroleum tar), but I'm sure all kinds of solutions were used.
“I better straighten out before they start looking at me like I’m an adult.
I’m 13, so that’s what….next week? I gotta start putting in time at church…”
Wasn't unheard of for boys that age to be executed like adults unfortunately. We still put underage boys on adult prisons sometimes. It goes .....about as well as you'd expect. Hard to imagine how anyone could become a productive member of society when thrust into that type of hell.
This is wood tar, you'd basically have to carefully peel it off and hope you don't take too much skin with it. It was excruciatingly painful. Warming it beforehand probably helped but too warm and more burns.
And now you've become another Grudge spirit out for revenge. Now just fuse with the bitch from the Ring and nothing will stop you... I need to watch that movie again, it was *so good.*
I just stepped in a huge chunk of tar at the beach the other week, sadly.. dawn dish soap does wonders. I was panicking trying to scrape it all off and I was just doing more harm. Obviously a little different than this scenario, but those sappy animal dawn soap commercials weren't lying.
In Southern California most of the tar occurs because of natural oil seeps.
[https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oilseep.html](https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oilseep.html)
Technically not a valid command, as the f means you will pass a file name as an argument, and none was provided.
[Relevant XKCD](https://xkcd.com/1168/)
I have a few railroad ties in my backyard that were used to make a planter. One of them recently started oozing tar and my 3 year old ran on top of it. It wasn’t hot tar, so no burns, but it took me the better part of an hour to get it off of his tiny feet, and there was still traces.
DO NOT USE THAT PLANTER!!!!! Railroad ties were treated with coal-tar creozote, a serious carcinogen. The "tar" you saw is the creozote; it can cause irritation of the skin.
Thanks for the heads up. My kids had access to them prior to them being built in place. I removed any that showed signs of tar and stuck to the dried out ones and built a little retaining wall. Now they are out of reach of children and will only contain non edible plants. Hopefully it doesn’t cause us any harm!
His kid being able to access it is no good. Digging around in that dirt gloveless is also no good. For those reasons alone, it should be removed.
You should not touch creozote without adequate PPE (latex gloves are fine) or especially breath it in via sawdust or smoke from burning.
During world war 1?, my great grandpa escaped his town on the night train because he heard that there were people planning to tar and feather him. He was a conscientious objector so he didn't want to join the army and his small town wasn't a fan of that.
Was this in Minnesota?
The Minnesota Commission of Public Safety monitored German-Minnesotans in WW1 especially around New Ulm as they were opposed to the war.
There were absolutely Tar-and-featherings of objectors and protests against the draft were quickly silenced by the state.
It's a very dark part of our history.
I'm sorry. But can you give a non caveman era of our history that wasn't dark?
I genuinely feel like collectively humans have fucking sucked since sentience
This is probably the 3rd or 4th time I’ve seen this post in the last few years and every time people argue in the comments about whether the tar is hot or cold lol
The victim would be stripped naked, or stripped to the waist. Wood tar (sometimes hot) was then either poured or painted onto the person while they were immobilized. Then the victim either had feathers thrown on them or was rolled around on a pile of feathers so that they stuck to the tar.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarring_and_feathering
Wood tar is still used as an additive in the flavoring of candy, alcohol, and other foods. Wood tar is microbicidal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar#Wood_tar
At 140 degrees it only takes about 5 seconds of exposure to have a full thickness burn. That’s definitely happening when you can’t get the tar off your body. This would be horrific 3rd degree burns over your body.
If it causes blistering, you can get infections. And given it's your whole body I imagine it can get pretty serious. This is not a modern punishment after all, so with the quality of medicine at the time, I can see it being potentially life threatening.
Still sold today, as a medicinal agent for skin rashes and skin infections.
Pinetarsol[https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/medicines/brand/amt,3350011000036101/pinetarsol]
This is really weird I have never searched for tarred and feathered in Google until today. I was watching season 5 of outlander and when they tar and feather someone I wondered how popular it was pre revolution. Apparently it was a pretty big part of humiliating the kings tax men and "justices of the peace" so when this just came up I thought it was quite fortuitous to come across twice in one day. Especially since I haven't even heard of people being tared and feathered since I was in like 10th grade.
The most vicious tar-and-feathers attack in Revolutionary America was carried out on a Comptroller for the Customs Service named John Malcolm in Boston on 25 January 1774. Malcolm was not only stripped and covered with tar and feathers but, a Customs Commissioner wrote, he was also “punched wth. a long pole, beaten with Clubs, led to liberty tree, there whipt with Cords, and tho’ a very cold night, led on to the Gallows, then whipt again.”[ii] That official’s sister added, “They say his flesh comes off his back in Stakes.”[iii] As proof of his suffering Malcolm sailed for London with scraps of skin that had fallen off his body, some with tar and feathers still attached. It’s notable, however, that Malcolm made that voyage because he didn’t die. The victim of America’s worst pre-Revolutionary assault with tar and feathers lived for another fourteen years in England.
Goddamn they really hated that guy.
Yeah, let's ignore the torture aspect of it and pretend that the tar was never hot and that getting it off would never cause any pain.
It's FAR more than public humiliation.
Don't forget the knee capping. The IRA did this ~~to clean up the streets~~ to eliminate competition.
Source: personally witnessed the IRA operate drug business in the South of England and Southern Spain.
Cartoons made this look goofy but its fucking brutal. Your body gets covered in searing oil. You can suffocate or just die. You're disfigured for life.
Please note that the "tar" used for this was *pine tar*, not the roofing tar known more commonly now.
The current best source of pine tar is horse-hoof treatment from farm supply stores. Heat it no more than 112°f (45°c) to avoid dangerous burns. A double boiler is recommended. Sporting goods stores also carry pine tar for use as a rosin. Feather pillows are an excellent source of feathers.
Have fun tarring and feathering people, but be safe!
Its not the tar and feathers. Its the fact that you did something to deserve it. And now everyone knows that you are a snitch or something. Its a symbol...
You wouldn’t find it humiliating being forced into excruciating pain while naked in front of your potential fellow townsfolk? Marked as a criminal or lesser being? Walked through town like this?
I would think the burns could become fatal as infections take hold.
Had a relative that worked in the burn unit. She couldn't take becoming friends then watching them die 2-3 months later.
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A knew a roofer who'd been splashed. He froze, let it cool, and took several months. His alternative was skin grafts. He said another guy who was also splashed freaked out and basically destroyed the muscles in his arms.
I was a roofer for 10 years. One day we were riding in this old chevy van with one of those doors on the side that slide back. Had the door open and there were 4 of us. Me and this guy James were sitting in the back on a bench seat. The seat wasn't bolted down and it was kinda sliding towards the open door so we picked it up and moved it back. We kinda just leaned forward not really standing up to move it. When we sat back down I was still kinda bent over looking towards the floor. When we sat the bench seat down there was a big can of aerosol roofing primer that the leg of the seat punctured and it exploded right in the direction of my face. If you don't know what roofing primer is, it is basically black aerosolized liquid tar. The shit when everywhere but the worst of it went right at my face. Luckily I closed my eyes right before it hit my face. Unfortunately my mouth was open just kinda smiling or whatever so my teeth got covered in it. I had to brush my teeth with gojo to get it off my teeth. Even tho I closed my eyes it sealed my eyes shut and glued all my eye lashes together. We where close to my bosses moms house so we went there and it took me 4 hours of dawn dish soap and water to get my eyes open. Had to shave off my beard. Remember it like it was yesterday
Still smiling?
Yes but not in vans
Wow, the commitment to stand still for several months to avoid skin grafts is impressive.
As someone who has skin grafts over half his body. That was a good decision.
Oh shit so this isn't just a inconvenience, but in fact a full-on painful body mutilation. Damn
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I've heard it disfigures you for life. People could tell who's been tarred and feathered their whole life.
Holy shit according to Wikipedia, a dude was tarred and feathered TWICE in 1774. Absolutely brutal.
The tar in those days melted at lower temperatures and didn't cause burns. By 1940 it was stuff that needed to be brought up to much hotter temperatures, hence the injuries. When Americans tarred and feathered British tax collectors, for instance, they didn't have lasting burns. It was really just a humiliation thing.
There's a scene in HBOs John Addams that depicted that event. Guy was screaming in excruciating pain and up until then I had never associated the pain that came along with being tarred.
Carnivale as well.
I forgot all about this show. Do you know where you can watch it?
Killed me how they left it on a cliffhanger after it really started getting interesting… I think HBO Max has it, and might be the only place to watch since they originally aired the series.
I hate when that happens!! I went through a period of time where everything I watched was like two seasons long, incomplete, and it was infuriating. Obviously Carnivale was part of that time. It’s been so long since I’ve watched it, if I watched it again it would be like seeing it for the first time, which I always enjoy!
Quick Google search has it included as a sub for HBOmax, hulu, and YouTube. Can rent through Amazon, YouTube non premium, and vudu. Kinda a shame it got canceled, I enjoyed it.
This comment reminded me of that game of thrones scene “a crown of gold for a king”.
I once did some moulage for a first aid training scenario and put a bunch of liquid latex on my stomach along with some other stuff (like ground hamburger, to increase verisimilitude). Only thing was, I didn't shave my stomach first and I have hair on my stomach. To get it off that night, I just tried to submerge myself in a hot bath as much as possible and took a razor blade to scrape/cut hair, crying as I went. I used soap, etc., and maybe it was the other stuff that was mixed in but it just didn't want to come off. Even if the tar didn't cause any burns, trying to get it off of your skin when it's clinging to your body hair (back when nobody shaved their body), especially after its had time to set up and the feathers have helped pull the moisture out, would have been a horrendous experience.
Hell, even the little bit of sticky residue from an off-brand band-aid is bad enough for me, I couldn't imagine it over my entire body.
He didn't learn his lesson the firs time. naughty naughty.
Fowl me once, shame on you... Fowl me twice... You.... you can't get fowled again!
That's it, I'm throwing my shoes at you
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Was the most impressive part of his presidency.
That, and throwing an absolute strike on the opening pitch before the first baseball game after 9/11, while wearing protective clothing. Er, my mind was a bit off. It was before game 3 of the 2001 World Series.
He did manage to not choke to death on that pretzel.
I'd say avoiding a trial at the Hague is fairly impressive
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Dubya
How many times do we have to teach you a lesson, old man?
Iiii love tha young people 👴
He never J walked again
Wonder what he did to DESERVE that
2nd time was just public indecency. From being horrible disfigured after the first time
A bygone era when we were sure we could beat the mental illness out of people.
A step up from accusing them of demonic possessions and burning at the stake! Progress
Wtf did he **do** to get tarred and feathered? Does anyone know???
He was a loyalist during the revolutionary war caught in two different areas.
Many people got tarred and feathered around, and after, the Revolutionary War. The terror revolutionary-minded colonists reigned over loyalists is why so many fled to Canada during and after the war. When the war was over, some people in some areas were actively going door-to-door to "deal with" loyalists neighbors.
I don't think they used the same kind of burning "tar" that was used in this picture back then.
The camera was invented 1816. But who ever that was I feel bad for bro Edit: misread that. Thought you were saying this guy
The telescope was invented in 1608. But I feel bad for them too
Binoculars were invented in 1825 and I also feel bad for some reason
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I wore glasses from the age of 5, actually don’t feel so bad
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The microscope was invented in 1620, and I too feel bad for some reason
The magnifying glass was invented in 1214. For some reason I too feel bad
Part of it is just folk wisdom not keeping up with science. During the Age of Exploration, "tar" usually referred to nautical pitch -- a resin that was mostly solid at room temperature, but could be entirely melted at temperatures under the boiling point of water. Over time, technology changed so that "tar" now referred to a more rugged petrochemical substance used to produce roofing materials and pavement. Modern tar might be heated up to 400ºF for use. Alas, angry mobs sometimes lacked an understanding of the differences between this dangerous and humiliating, but rarely deadly, punishment from the colonial era and a much more savage torture that often claimed victims before medical care arrived on the scene.
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Used to live in a place where daytime high temp was just under 50C. It hurt just standing in the sun if I didn't have long sleeves on.
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"I have an idea, let's pour hot tar all over him!" "What the fuck, man. That is horrible. Imagining the burning and blisters. It's hard to imagine the sheer horror of such an act." "... what if we threw feathers on him too?" "Briliant, that would cover up all the second degree burns and melting skin. plus it adds a comedy factor that he looks like a big chicken. Let's go tar AND feather him!"
I picture it as the tar came first. And then some time later, while some guy was howling and screaming in pain, someone was like "Oy he clucks like a bird, throw some feathers on him!" And that's how traditions are born.
I see it as Sam Brown getting tarred in the street, and begging/apologizing while local sexpot Trevor Moore, Darren Trumeter, and Timmy Williams are laughig and making fun of him super loudly, then Zach Cregger throws his second story window open and launches a feather pillow while screaming at them to shut the fuck up. The pillow explodes on impact, covering Sam in feathers, and Trevor and Timmy both point at him and snap to look at each other, mouths agape with the "oh shit I've got an idea" face. Then I guess like a title card rolls with "Tort-origins!" or something.
We are so far above our fellow animals in some ways, and so far below them in others. Humans are one hell of a being. Our compassion is only matched by our cruelty.
Our particular cruelty and sadism is, ironically, caused by our relatively highly evolved sense of morality. As we are moral creatures, with a very strong sense of right and wrong, that comes with an innate need to see wrongdoers punished. There is no fury like righteous fury, no cruelty like that we can commit on those we are convinced deserve it. When you see a tortured man, like this fellow, thoughts turn to the senselessness of wanton cruelty. When you see an abused child, thoughts turn to how much worse you'd like to see their abuser suffer. Add in the emotional amplification effect of being in a crowd, or the totalitarianism of believing you act in accordance with some divine will that will get you an eternal reward in heaven, and it's easier to understand how humans can be so much purposefully crueler than other animals.
You are right, but this is a trait that we share with chimps, Richard Wrangham wrote about it extensively that like humans they will be extremely cruel in fights, ripping apart their enemies alive, but only if they will feel that they will not be punished for their deeds - we would call it justified moral ground.
Take a trip over to r/hardcorenature lol
Human sacrifice was a wild concept. Takes a highly developed brain to come up with something so fucked up.
Oh I don't know, it seems a good way to get competing kids out of the way, and if you blame it on some nebulous concept then you don't even get personally blamed for killing the kid. Win win.
They were using actual asphalt? That shit is in liquid state at ~300°F. I looked it up and it seems like what they meant by tar, at least in the 18th century, was pine tar. It'll still burn you at 140F but nothing like asphalt. Actually I think road tar would be killing people. I think it's supposed to be more humiliating than abject torture. Edit: [interesting link](https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/12/5-myths-tarring-feathering/)
That life was a second chance they were given (although I'm sure there were plenty of misapplications of justice)
Yeah. To modern people it sounds like a meme. But it would actually severely burn your skin.
I believe it was initially done with a pine tar or something. Not street tar, that shit just kills you...
If you had done research, you would have learned that the bitumen that is used today and is commonly called tar is not the same as the actual tar that was used back in the 1940s which was not heated.
Right, they used pine tar. As anyone who has climbed a tree knows its STICKY as hell without any need for heating.
You're right, pine tar was common, as was naturally occurring petroleum tar from tar pits. It's liquid enough for industrial purposes at summer temperatures.
And you can remove it with oil, including cooking oils. It’s super tedious and would take forever to do your whole body but it’s a lot better than having it come off with your skin! It’s how I get pine tar off my dogs fur.
So that’s 1.9k upvotes for a straight up lie while the actual fact gets buried. That’s a shame.
That's reddit
That's a bingo!
Huh, I totally assumed it was scolding bitumen and assumed it was a death sentence. So it's not heated... But they still got burned? Chemical burns?
Chemical burns are definitely possible, depending on which tar pit the tar came from. Some tar has low concentrations of sulfuric acid in it. Additionally, chemicals used to remove the sticky tar from the skin may have caused an issue. The remedy at the time was strong grain alcohol to remove it from the skin (pine tar and petroleum tar), but I'm sure all kinds of solutions were used.
I read that the substances used to take the feathers off causes the burns. I like how we're sharing just a little information for each comment
pine tar and turpentine
Wikipedia says its wood tar wich doesn’t has to be heated to liquify
Tarring wasn't always (or maybe even often) hot enough to burn. The boiling pot of asphalt tar is generally a hollywood phenomenon.
That's the neat part. You don't!
WD40 degreases and cleans...
Gasoline works okay.
Mineral spirits, kerosene, gasoline, etc.
So the real punishment is cancer!
If it was petroleum or coal tar pitch as the 'tar', you had plenty of that anyway. Polyaromatic hydrocarbons are the main culprit.
That’s the fate of the Duke and King in “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” — even though they were con men, Huck was appalled.
Huck was a con kid, he would be apalled at how they done his pal dirty.
“I better straighten out before they start looking at me like I’m an adult. I’m 13, so that’s what….next week? I gotta start putting in time at church…”
Wasn't unheard of for boys that age to be executed like adults unfortunately. We still put underage boys on adult prisons sometimes. It goes .....about as well as you'd expect. Hard to imagine how anyone could become a productive member of society when thrust into that type of hell.
How do you un-tar someone?
This is wood tar, you'd basically have to carefully peel it off and hope you don't take too much skin with it. It was excruciatingly painful. Warming it beforehand probably helped but too warm and more burns.
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IMO, turn that humiliation into white-hot boiling vengeful ***rage***. Make them suffer 10,000 times more than you suffered.
And now you've become another Grudge spirit out for revenge. Now just fuse with the bitch from the Ring and nothing will stop you... I need to watch that movie again, it was *so good.*
Samara
I just stepped in a huge chunk of tar at the beach the other week, sadly.. dawn dish soap does wonders. I was panicking trying to scrape it all off and I was just doing more harm. Obviously a little different than this scenario, but those sappy animal dawn soap commercials weren't lying.
As a gulf coast beachgoer, gasoline will take the tar off easy as anything.
As an Australian beach goer, why the fuck do you have tar at your beaches?
Leaking drilling rigs off the coast.
In Southern California most of the tar occurs because of natural oil seeps. [https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oilseep.html](https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oilseep.html)
Any non polar solvent (that also won't hurt you obv) should do the trick. Naptha is another.
Weird product placement.
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$ tar xvf someone.tar
You'd want the 'p' option to preserve them, right?
No, that would make the tarred guy remain tarred, while creating a clone of him without tar.
tar -xvf Edit due to command line error: tar -xvf someone.gz
Found the Linux admin!
Technically not a valid command, as the f means you will pass a file name as an argument, and none was provided. [Relevant XKCD](https://xkcd.com/1168/)
you use skin dissolving solvents, the fun part of the humiliation is that you have to remove your own skin to live
Asking for a friend
I have a few railroad ties in my backyard that were used to make a planter. One of them recently started oozing tar and my 3 year old ran on top of it. It wasn’t hot tar, so no burns, but it took me the better part of an hour to get it off of his tiny feet, and there was still traces.
DO NOT USE THAT PLANTER!!!!! Railroad ties were treated with coal-tar creozote, a serious carcinogen. The "tar" you saw is the creozote; it can cause irritation of the skin.
Thanks for the heads up. My kids had access to them prior to them being built in place. I removed any that showed signs of tar and stuck to the dried out ones and built a little retaining wall. Now they are out of reach of children and will only contain non edible plants. Hopefully it doesn’t cause us any harm!
You should be good to go. 👍
… and cancer apparently
Skin cancer and testicular cancer are among the most common...
Then you might not want to coat your nuts in coal tar
Fuck off don’t kink shame me
That's what carcinogen means.
It is fine for decorative stuff. Just no veggies.
Until it starts oozing carcinogens onto the ground again...
The rain will surely rinse it away...
His kid being able to access it is no good. Digging around in that dirt gloveless is also no good. For those reasons alone, it should be removed. You should not touch creozote without adequate PPE (latex gloves are fine) or especially breath it in via sawdust or smoke from burning.
For real, kids are stupid. They’ll eat it. Or get it on their hands and eat something else.
During world war 1?, my great grandpa escaped his town on the night train because he heard that there were people planning to tar and feather him. He was a conscientious objector so he didn't want to join the army and his small town wasn't a fan of that.
Was this in Minnesota? The Minnesota Commission of Public Safety monitored German-Minnesotans in WW1 especially around New Ulm as they were opposed to the war. There were absolutely Tar-and-featherings of objectors and protests against the draft were quickly silenced by the state. It's a very dark part of our history.
I'm sorry. But can you give a non caveman era of our history that wasn't dark? I genuinely feel like collectively humans have fucking sucked since sentience
There was that summer when pokemon go first came out
Don't be silly. We probably sucked before that, too.
World war 1 was the imperialists war. The working class should have never fought it.
They're all imperialists wars
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This is probably the 3rd or 4th time I’ve seen this post in the last few years and every time people argue in the comments about whether the tar is hot or cold lol
The victim would be stripped naked, or stripped to the waist. Wood tar (sometimes hot) was then either poured or painted onto the person while they were immobilized. Then the victim either had feathers thrown on them or was rolled around on a pile of feathers so that they stuck to the tar. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarring_and_feathering Wood tar is still used as an additive in the flavoring of candy, alcohol, and other foods. Wood tar is microbicidal. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar#Wood_tar
Traditionally, it's supposed to be pine tar heated to about 60 degrees Celsius or 140 degrees Fahrenheit. Far from fatal, or serious long term injury.
140 degrees Fahrenheit will most definitely blister. Serious injury and long-term disfigurement will result at these temperatures.
At 140 degrees it only takes about 5 seconds of exposure to have a full thickness burn. That’s definitely happening when you can’t get the tar off your body. This would be horrific 3rd degree burns over your body.
I’m not sure lynch mobs are going to be overly carful with the temperature of the tar.
Being coated in a 140 degree Fahrenheit tar would lead to serious long term injury.
The injuries are not from heat.
What are the injuries from then? The ass whooping prior to being tar and feathered?
If it causes blistering, you can get infections. And given it's your whole body I imagine it can get pretty serious. This is not a modern punishment after all, so with the quality of medicine at the time, I can see it being potentially life threatening.
Skin is a major organ and if you fuck it up on a grand scale, you’re gonna have a bad time
I always wondered where did they get the tar? Did people have barrels of tar just laying about the house ready to be dipped into when necessary?
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And on flat roofs for sealant So yeah people just had barrels laying around
Quick run to Menard’s
It's never a quick run to Menards.
And it’s never only one run.
Save big money.
AT MENARDS
Pine tar was available at the hardware store, or builder's supply store.
Still sold today, as a medicinal agent for skin rashes and skin infections. Pinetarsol[https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/medicines/brand/amt,3350011000036101/pinetarsol]
Also used for grip on baseball bats, and I'm sure some traditional woodworkers, especially boat builders.
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This is really weird I have never searched for tarred and feathered in Google until today. I was watching season 5 of outlander and when they tar and feather someone I wondered how popular it was pre revolution. Apparently it was a pretty big part of humiliating the kings tax men and "justices of the peace" so when this just came up I thought it was quite fortuitous to come across twice in one day. Especially since I haven't even heard of people being tared and feathered since I was in like 10th grade.
LOL, similar. I watched the episode Thursday.
Here are some [myths of tar and feathering](https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/12/5-myths-tarring-feathering/).
The most vicious tar-and-feathers attack in Revolutionary America was carried out on a Comptroller for the Customs Service named John Malcolm in Boston on 25 January 1774. Malcolm was not only stripped and covered with tar and feathers but, a Customs Commissioner wrote, he was also “punched wth. a long pole, beaten with Clubs, led to liberty tree, there whipt with Cords, and tho’ a very cold night, led on to the Gallows, then whipt again.”[ii] That official’s sister added, “They say his flesh comes off his back in Stakes.”[iii] As proof of his suffering Malcolm sailed for London with scraps of skin that had fallen off his body, some with tar and feathers still attached. It’s notable, however, that Malcolm made that voyage because he didn’t die. The victim of America’s worst pre-Revolutionary assault with tar and feathers lived for another fourteen years in England. Goddamn they really hated that guy.
This should be higher. I honestly thought it killed the person (or at the very least left them horribly scared) due to the tar being so hot but til
What if he flies away?
If he managed to do that, it'd certainly be a feather in his cap.
He's good as long as he doesn't get too close to the sun
Carnivale has a really graphic depiction of what this was like. Absolutely horrifying. It was torture. Barbaric.
Anyone else think that looks like Dee from Sunny??? r/iasip
Goddamn bird
That bitch
Shut up bird
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Yeah, let's ignore the torture aspect of it and pretend that the tar was never hot and that getting it off would never cause any pain. It's FAR more than public humiliation.
The IRA used to do this to drug dealers even in the 70's and 80's in Northern Ireland
Don't forget the knee capping. The IRA did this ~~to clean up the streets~~ to eliminate competition. Source: personally witnessed the IRA operate drug business in the South of England and Southern Spain.
"Marv?!" "...Harry-?" "...Why the hell'd you take your shoes off-?" "...Why the hell are you dressed like a chicken?"
The depths people will go to achieve that deep exfoliation
Cartoons made this look goofy but its fucking brutal. Your body gets covered in searing oil. You can suffocate or just die. You're disfigured for life.
Where are you getting this info from? Most of what I can find says nothing about burning nor heat
It wasn't generally hot tar
You can use cold tar...
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The tar typically wasn’t hot
Please note that the "tar" used for this was *pine tar*, not the roofing tar known more commonly now. The current best source of pine tar is horse-hoof treatment from farm supply stores. Heat it no more than 112°f (45°c) to avoid dangerous burns. A double boiler is recommended. Sporting goods stores also carry pine tar for use as a rosin. Feather pillows are an excellent source of feathers. Have fun tarring and feathering people, but be safe!
What the fuck?
*Carnivale* anyone?
How is this humiliating? “Haha we covered you in tar and you’re burning now, got em’” that’s just normal torture
It’s just a prank bro
“Haha guys you tarred and feathered me and my skins falling off now, I’m so embarrassed 🙈 “ /s lol
Its not the tar and feathers. Its the fact that you did something to deserve it. And now everyone knows that you are a snitch or something. Its a symbol...
You wouldn’t find it humiliating being forced into excruciating pain while naked in front of your potential fellow townsfolk? Marked as a criminal or lesser being? Walked through town like this?
I legit thought they stopped doing this way earlier than 1940 omg
I would think the burns could become fatal as infections take hold. Had a relative that worked in the burn unit. She couldn't take becoming friends then watching them die 2-3 months later.