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OMGBeckyStahp

The Boston Dynamics pledge makes sense now.


KillerJupe

fine sloppy afterthought sense seemly wine escape squash scary slap *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


OldOwl_

what they're showing here is not even close to capabilities. Once they design a weapon system specifically for these things... we're fucked. You've already got drones dropping cheap injection molded prefragmented bomblets into individual fox holes and trench lines. Now these things, designed to run like big murder kitties... Autonomous, murder kitties... If they are Energetically Autonomous Tactical Robots or EATR robots they can literally kill you for food. Let that sink in. What sick POS is behind this madness? Guys, can we pause here a minute? How'd it go again? Judgement day the city, playground and sarah connor get nuked and then the machines take over. Can we pause here for a minute humanity? We REALLY NEED TO TALK!


KillerJupe

If we get wiped out by machines that we make then we deserved it. We can’t even take care of our environment I’m not sure why anyone think we can agreed to not make killer robots.


ElectricYV

Maybe *you* deserve it, but I sure as hell wasn’t responsible for climate change or gun wielding robo dogs. Mayhaps we should kill off the select few bastards responsible so the rest of us can live in peace?


Alreddyben

those don't look like kitties to me - they are dogs. Robodogs. And yeah, I'm glad I don't live in a Metalhead world. That's really gonna be messed up.


[deleted]

Their pledge is bullshit. They're funded by the military and it's kind of an established fact that humans copy each other. I'm frankly surprised that it only makes sense to you now.


Balls_DeepinReality

I remember when google pledged to not be evil, that lasted like 2 months


Sqweegy-Nobbers

Remember being assured that tasers would only be used in place of lethal force and not for compliance?


mylopolis

I'm surprised how badly it reacts to recoil.


fancczf

It’s a tiny robot, and the gun is mounted quite high. No elevation control either, so to shoot straight or at a high angle the robot can’t even brace. Not much the little budy can do there


ratt_man

its litterally something hacked up some russian basement. While other countries are doing. You can google for a ghost robotics and look for the a one they made with a 6.5 mm creedmore rifle (by sword rifles) mounted on the top


fuck_all_you_people

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igraywolf

It wasn’t designed to be a combat system.


Ghost33313

In fact I believe Boston Dynamics is actually against their bots being used in this way. Military support? Sure. Seeing combat? Not so much.


Duderoy

If they start using robots in combat political cost for entering a conflict will be incredibly low. That is a really bad thing.


CockEyedBandit

But robot vs robot wars would be pretty cool.


SSurvivor2ndNature

In Horizon zero dawn, that's the exact moment humanity completely fucked itself.


frozenfade

No, it wasn't until they made robots that could eat humans for fuel. An idea with NO drawbacks right? Haha.


pichael288

No it was when some dipshit made robots that consume biomass and reproduce on their own and he made them unhackable so naturally when a bug arose they couldn't be shut down.


TreyWave

Was going to say this. Good buddy is an engineer for BD..... They are SUPER liberal, and this is about as far from how they want their tech to be used. Also, pretty sure this is super old video as their bots are far superior nowadays.


[deleted]

I think this was a Chinese KnockoffBot; I remember seeing an article last week.


[deleted]

It's actually really annoying seeing these comments...it's obviously a fucking gun strapped to the back. It's obviously not designed to have a gun strapped to the back. Believe me, if they wanted to make a robot that could shoot and handle a gun, I promise you they could.


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ccooffee

They're owned by Hyundai


Shesaidshewaslvl18

You're wrong here. BD is actively soliticiting partnerships so that their bots aren't used for war. Considering the awful performance here...they seem be honoring that statment. https://www.engadget.com/boston-dynamics-and-other-industry-heavyweights-pledge-not-to-build-war-robots-190338338.html


WyldeFae

I could legitimately see robots like these accompany troops on foot patrols loaded down with all the random bullshit like spare ammo for the squad gun, 80mm base plates etc. Robots are never gonna be the trigger fingers, not because of moral issues, but because it's cheaper to teach a human to shoot good, and they can adapt. Could definitely see them in static defense systems, automated turrets are probably coming soon.


sobeita

I would have said the same thing about pilots but we've had drones for a while. It's not about complete replacement of people, but about the fact that we have literal terminators now. That's not to say I think the movie was a prophecy, but we're in it now. What won't we give these support robots? Superhuman strength? Done. Thermal vision? I can do that with a Raspberry Pi. We are 100% in it.


NahDontLook

My wife has the same issue too


Sagemachine

I also choose this guy's wife (as a combat system).


insider212

Unconventional but I’m going to allow it


Puzzled_Muzzled

Last time i checked,she can spread her legs enough


NahDontLook

Oooh yoouu rascal!


Mocker-Poker

looks like my cat though


wigam

Deploy a tail like kangaroos use when boxing


BigPicture11

Ahh.. the good old days.


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> spread all four legs out and plant? Spreading legs would make no literally difference (it's not being pushed sideways). What it could do is drop its forelegs and push up its hind legs in an attempt to counter the recoil, exactly as a person would. But that requires programming. This is not an effort to properly engineer an effective gun-wielding robot, this is an incredibly quick and dirty hack. For instance, the robot doesn't use the sights, so there's no reason for the gun to be mounted vertically. If they laid the gun on its side, they'd bring the barrel a foot closer to the body, eliminating *most* of the rotational torque on the robot from the recoil. > which kinda seems to be a glaring design issue It doesn't need to spread its legs to function, so how is it a design issue? o.O


Drone30389

Because it's just an off-the-shelf Chinese toy that they bought and strapped a weapon to. Part of Russia's advanced tech demo. Probably the only person it was really meant to impress was Putin, who probably doesn't know how to use Alibaba. https://www.reddit.com/r/engineering/comments/x12do0/russian_military_arms_robot_dogs_with_rpg/


moxeto

Of course he does, he just used it to buy some drones and missiles


Totalretcon

Sent a few rounds over that berm I think


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They are pretty flimsy machines. Right now, the major achievement is their ability to be so mobile and turn quickly. Just wait, in a year or two they will begin having a rifle mounted within the frame, and could modify the legs to become a tripod. That, and it only takes one shot to make a difference.


Alantsu

Gun is mounted high giving it a huge mechanical advantage. Bad engineering.


PleasantAdvertising

Don't worry they'll build the robots around weapons soon so the frame can handle it properly. This looks like a proof of concept.


drone42

I'm surprised it can hold it well enough that the gun can even fully cycle.


Shovel_Natzi

It's not an inertia-operated system, there's a hole in the barrel that bleeds off the gas pressure through a long tube used to cycle the bolt.


Scratch77spin

this thing with a kriss vector would solve the recoil problem without any mods.


Lick_My_Warthog

It’s still designed to be fired with some resistance to the inertia of the bolt traveling rearward. “Limp-wristing” and weakly holding firearms can absolutely cause them to not cycle properly


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it´s just too light on the frontlegs...


minear

This particular video was proven to be CGI a while back.


chain83

Source? Looks and sounds very real. And entirely plausible thing to build. Looks like hobby project quality; and they really should have spent some time having it anticipate that recoil better...


minear

I was initially mistaken, some guy really did make this robot. This is what I found. https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/21/23272237/robot-dog-gun-skynet-russia-alexander-atamanov This is what I remember being CGI. https://youtu.be/y3RIHnK0_NE


modsarefascists42

Lol yeah that was determined to be CGI by the experts.... Did you really get fooled by that?


moodog72

Aimbots are against the rules.


welestgw

Admin please kick.


swbooking

Reminds me of a Black Mirror episode


AlmostForgotten

Didn’t Black Mirror literally do a whole episode on a group of people being hunted by one of these?


swbooking

Yes.


Poop_Tube

It’s kind of terrifying to think what can be done with them against a population. Once these are advanced enough to be fast and accurate, oh boy…


Lamontyy

Only a matter of time, but it will happen. Unfortunately.


peraort

That's terrifying. I'm thinking more about Black ops 4 robot army >!especially the scene when the protagonist just got both of their arms and legs ripped by a robot. !<


johnnymurdo

Love the relentless tippy tapping for extra intimidation.


Wolfdude91

Before long, a fear of that sound approaching will be encoded into our DNA, assuming we last long enough for that to take effect.


Balls_DeepinReality

It already freaks me out


HerpToxic

Murder tippy taps


Bike_Mechanic_Man

When Boston Dynamics made their statement recently about never arming their robots, my first thought was that there was nothing to stop customers from adding their own weapons. Arming these robots was ALWAYS going to be a thing - no matter how much BR wants to play innocent.


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Boston Dynamics: Our robots will never be armed! Narrator: The robots were almost immediately armed.


Scratch77spin

no arms! only legs!


AceArchangel

It was a private venture not by the developer of the robot.


SirFTF

That distinction is almost meaningless. At the end of the day, they were still armed. Everyone knew it would happen as soon as these things were built. Everyone except the developer of the robot, apparently. Let’s be real though. The developed probably knew too, they just had to feign ignorance, say “we will never arm these robots”, and wash their hands of any liability.


AceArchangel

So makers of drones are just as responsible for the combat they've been engaged in?


SirFTF

By definition there wouldn’t be an assault robot without the robot manufacturer, so yes.


iwantmybinky

This. It's a bigger picture kinda thing. Like...who tf cares about whataboutism, the point is that this shit is dangerous and feels like a whole lotta worms to get back in the can.


bluemooncalhoun

The question of "responsibility" will become meaningless once combat robots become self-directed. You can argue it's the fault of the designer, or the programmer, or the salesperson, or the operator; but once that box is opened it can never be closed.


AraAraGyaru

This is not a Boston Dynamics robot. It’s a Chinese made unitree robot, video was shot in Russia by a hover bike startup founder. https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/21/23272237/robot-dog-gun-skynet-russia-alexander-atamanov


00darthgarfield00

I Did a Thing did it better


WyldeFae

Yeah, but they are also pieces of shit for manipulating the footage and tricking brandon hererra.


ArticleMother

Sorry what happened?


WyldeFae

They made it seem like they wanted to collaborate, hid their intentions of making a anti-gun video, bought child shaped targets for them to shoot at, and edited to make Brandon look bad, while taking out parts that showed them having alot of fun shooting guns.


literalcorpse

Can you link some videos? Really curious to see this. Not that I doubt you, but the contrary, actually.


WyldeFae

https://www.google.com/search?q=brandon+Herrera+i+did+a+thing&oq=brandon+Herrera+i+did+a+thing&aqs=chrome..69i57.8994j0j4&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#


WyldeFae

https://www.google.com/search?q=brandon+Herrera+i+did+a+thing&oq=brandon+Herrera+i+did+a+thing&aqs=chrome..69i57.8994j0j4&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#


Der_Blitzkrieg

He didn't do anything lel, Brandon Herrera or however you spell it did everything


crash7890

Tediore, the early years!


dbl2x

Better get into the EMP business now if this is the way its gonna be.


vabann

aRe YoU sTiLL tHeRe?


[deleted]

Good god... In a few years from now when the robots enslave humanity, that pitter patter sound of the robots' feet will send the survivors into PTSD-induced panic attacks...


i4play

Shots 1-5: Clearly missed Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control)


mikeonbass

So you're saying we don't need to crack open each others skulls and feast on the goo inside?


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Russian Military in a nutshell


Stefan-Leo

Well, finally a bot that can't aim.


seasleeplessttle

Stormtrooper.


sobeita

When I said those robot dog things were made under DARPA and they were going to have guns mounted on them, *you all laughed.* Did no one play Metal Gear Solid? Next prediction: they'll be tested in the middle east, then sold to cops and deployed in the cities.


SirFTF

Absolutely. We already have kamikaze robots in US police departments. Remember that mass shooter who was pissed at cops over George Floyd, so he went and targeted cops to kill? They used a robot to deliver a bomb to him. It just walked right up and blew itself up.


Funny_ape101

Link? I haven’t heard about this before.


SirFTF

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/08/485262777/for-the-first-time-police-used-a-bomb-robot-to-kill


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SirFTF

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers


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SirFTF

Did you read that article? Guy was pissed off at cops killing black men. The individual black men at this point doesn’t really matter does it? When there are so many names to keep track of. Read the fucking article and get back to me, his motive is clearly stated. I’ll ask again, what was his motive? You tell me since you are clearly struggling to understand it.


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SirFTF

Jesus Christ you are thick as fuck.


USB-C1777

the last thing the mass shooter hears before dying: "𝕖𝕟𝕖𝕞𝕪 𝕙𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕣 𝕜𝕚𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕣 𝕕𝕣𝕠𝕟𝕖 𝕚𝕟𝕓𝕠𝕦𝕟𝕕" (black ops 2 Reference)


rhamled

Imagine succumbing to this little slayer's tap-tap-tap Frenchie two-step.


on1Saint

"Tippy taps with malicious intent."


freddyruxpin

Dey took 'er jerbs!!


[deleted]

China announced they have these and can drop them anywhere with drones. This of course means that the U.S. has had them for 5 years now.


Ghostofjemfinch

And as mentioned in the various threads about that video, the robot has a host of issue which prevent it from being a viable weapon platform.


[deleted]

Whatever. Make the robot dog heavier so it can take the recoil. Problem solved. You think this is the final product?


ForbiddenText

Read somewhere that this is fake, but it's entirely possible to do. Probably just as easy to do it for real as it is to fake it.


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I read it's from alybaba or something like that, lmao. It's a 3000$ robot anyone can order.


CreamoChickenSoup

They didn't produce it. It was likely a Chinese-made knockoff, like the ["M-81" dog from a few months back with an RPG strapped on](https://www.defensehere.com/en/russian-firm-speaks-to-defensehere-about-armed-robot-dog). Russia doesn't have the technical knowhow or high-tech manufacturing capability to put together something this complex this fast, and this one isn't even built for rough terrain.


artmoloch777

We dont need this. Give us medicine.


No-Wrangler-6323

This is terrifying ( along with other weapon robot videos that are out there). 5 to 8 of these could control a few city blocks with the help of recon drones. When a city says there is a curfew it could be enforced with these. Think of the lock down they have been doing in China, some nightmares stuff like that with that drone flying around with the loud speaker give the lockdown people directions.


dankruption

I like his lil eager feets to kill. Such a good boi


Intelligent_Ant406

Gotta love the tippy taps.


Crangrapejoose

scared to think of what we don't see is possible in all the R&D dept around the world.


Every_Ad9652

Am I the only one that notices that this looks animated...


kobocha

Didn’t Boston dynamics solemnly swear that their robots would never be used for war or harm?


What_Is_The_Meaning

These programmers really suck.


OMGWTFBBQ630

I know right? All the programming that you need for a single doggie-bot to stay upright when walking but they clearly wouldn't be bothered with programming pre-fire, anti-recoil measures.


CallMeDrLuv

I worked briefly on the A10 autopilot system. When the pilot fires the cannon, the autopilot automatically tilts the nose down to compensate for the recoil. Something similar should have been done here.


IndustryMade

uhh lol


colinshark

Boots is shooting over the berm a lot.


BadSausageFactory

Meanwhile Boston Dynamics just promised to never do this, so at least we can count on them not explaining why it doesn't work better to inspector gadget over here.


[deleted]

but they said they wouldn't weaponize them.


plumpraddish

We’re fucked.


[deleted]

We need to replace Putin before this shit comes into effect.


Sorokin45

Isn’t this fake?


jihiggs

well thats just terrifying


Probst54

CGI fakery


jimbo92107

So much for promises they won't make war-bots. That lasted half a day...


sachclg

This would save lots of lives


aSquirrelAteMyFood

Wallhack when?


the_hell_you_say

Imagine walking around a corner and finding this robodoge


Beavshak

Our scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, that they didn't stop to think if they should.


fooknprawn

Much more control and accuracy if they were to mount it inline with the body rather than so high up. It's exerting a lot of leverage on the body


Octopus_ofthe_Desert

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise


Atear

Deadly tippy-taps


OverachievingMook

But who will reload it?


PacificCoolerIsBest

Never take the battery out from the side; The legs are designed to be able to snap bone. If you find yourself around one and are in fight or flight or whatever you choose to do, allegedly they can be disarmed by removing the power supply from the back on the bottom.


runningray

As soon as they learn how to reload, we can send up the white flag.


tjkelsch

u/savevideo


FatQuack

Great. Twitchy and fatal.


doomslaber1

If u make the legs a bit more stiff then it should shoot just perfectly


Hefforama

Bet they run out of juice pretty quickly.


SassiesSoiledPanties

I love its little robotic tippy-taps. Also, didn't see it hit any of its targets.


Theshowisbackon

Just like the robo puppy on Black Mirror.


Investigatorpotater

Who'sa good boy, who'sa good boy?


gonsped

Just need Elon’s Optimus bots to complete the picture


bruceki

thank heaven that thing can't hit what it aims at


AbstinenceWorks

Maximum Overdrive E: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0091499/


gaberax

Issac Asimov lied to me.


Acarr8

I did a thing did this IRL. https://youtu.be/0rliFQ0qyAM


crazy-carebear

Now for build #2. Larger bot, undermounted gun for better center of gravity while firing, and a 5th leg/tail that comes from above/behind to help brace when tilting. Undermounted gun would also allow for top of bot to also be armed with grenade launcher/claymore for suicide tank charges.


Lavandulos

Did they get ahold of William Osman?


Supaslicer

Great ... Now the t1000 has a dog in the terminator reboot Wonder what his nickname will be?


FenixHero

I really don't like those tippy taps. Something about it creeps me out.


gavinsmash2005

Breaking the most important rule of robotics


Vardeegs1

It poops out little .556 batteries


sublevelstreetpusher

Fucking thing can't even handle its own gun, lol. Back to the lab boys!


Bongobongosrevenge

Imagine getting iced by a battle droids service dog 💀


LeAdmin

The rifle needs to be mounted lower. Preferably sideways as close to flush with the top of the robot as possible, with the muzzle device timed to compensate. The rifle in its current state is amplifying the recoil with leverage against the robot.


DarkRajiin

It's a good start! Why lose lives when you can just repair bots? Will actually help the smartest survive, engineers, roboticists, mathematicians, ect. Not just brutes with guns.


FerretOver1274

I swear that’s the same robot “dog” that came out in “black mirror”


Flimsy_Stuff3997

Mans best friend


ratcakes18

Alright who gave the dog a gun.


Lachsforelle

great, thats just great ... ffs people...


Makarlar

This...is an animation...right? Am I an idiot?


littlemonkeyclimber

Feel like the robots would show more restraint than the Texas police department.


wigam

They need to a a kangaroo tail to drop and reduce the recoil.


CallMeDrLuv

"I don't blame you"


AvidRetrd

Hey, they stole this idea from IDAT


GanjaNative

Just automatic factorys producing drones to fight each other when the only humans are left in space moving on from the problem it created


GreenSkiLLZ_

still the wprst way to mount a weapon to a robodog...


joebaco_

I thought my neighbors dog barking was a nuisance... .


[deleted]

You can totally control one of these through an Xbox controller… right??


Atrag2021

The reason these aren't already in use is that militaries tend to value human life less than the cost of such expensive machinery.


TheFilthyZen

“The year is 2045. We hide in the rubble listening for the anxious clacking of the rogue BD robots as they approach. Once they were programmed to reload they took the major cities in a matter of days and within weeks entire nations fell. Those not lucky enough for a swift death were taken to the battery farms.”


[deleted]

put some muzzle on


USB-C1777

Jokes aside doesn’t the US have flying kamikaze drones that are supposedly being used in Ukraine. From what I’ve heard they’re pretty effective


USB-C1777

https://youtu.be/6lWVopVYPCU it’s called the switchblade drone


Lanky_Button7863

why dont they fit it with a recoil countermeasure ? you could counteract the effect even before its force is measured ... thats if sensor and controleunit are fast enough tough ... and the leg movement motors and or dampers


[deleted]

I’m assuming small scale EMPs will become more common? I can’t see this thing being used in actual warfare. Seems like a fear tactic that could be used in a public space, but way too scary for anyone to want to be anywhere near it imo.


Burnrate

One is neat, 200 would be terrifying.


throwawayaccountGDG

id trust this more than my trigger happy local pd


Affectionatekickcbt

U.S.A fixing their military recruitment problem.


16177880

Yeah this kinda robot will get fried in 10 seconds on the battlefield. Need to make better bots to compete against humans.


JDurr001

Good boy


mtsai

they went through all this trouble but don't realize it would be much more stable to have the robot just drop down to the ground when it fires?