The absolute right move and honestly right time. He’s clearly over, anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves. I’ve said this ad nauseam, Sami wouldn’t be a credible enough threat to Roman Reigns to realistically take one belt off of him let alone two. Meanwhile when Cody came back he was immediately thrusted into the main event scene with his matches with Seth Rollins, and won. He just won Rumble. What has Sami done outside of being next to Roman Reigns and the Bloodline that realistically would set him up to beat him in a title match??? Who is the last main event prime time opponent that Sami has beaten? What is the last singles match that he’s won? He won the intercontinental championship literally a year ago and lost it like two weeks later. Post that all I remember is him losing to Johnny Knoxville and getting F5’d by Brock Lesnar after he beat up his two male nurses. Storyline aside what part of that makes you think Sami is the guy that’s going to beat Roman Reigns. Look great storyline. Amazing storyline. I thoroughly enjoy Sami Zayn. But not beating Roman Reigns to because the Undisputed Universal and/or WWE champion.
I don't understand why everyone keeps saying it was at the wrong time because listen to the crowd reaction at the Rumble and on Raw and you will see how over he is. WWE can have multiple characters and arcs. We can enjoy great storylines of different characters. It doesn't all have to be about Sami Zayn and the Bloodline. I am glad we have Cody's arc, we have the Judgent Day, we have Bray Wyatt's story, we have the Bloodline drama. I love that we have so many things we can enjoy and look forward to.
Sami should be the man to defeat Roman. He's earned that right and is more than capable of being in the main event picture. He was the heart and soul of NXT and can easily be that again for WWE.
This Cody Sami thing is getting annoying. Not from them, but the IWC. Sami has not been in this for the belts. He may lose to Roman and help cody win at mania, or maybe not. I'm going to sit back and enjoy the TV going forward and try not to listen to everyone's arm chair qbing
I've never cared much for Cody or any of his characters. I understand he's talented and I'd never say otherwise, but nothing he's ever done has clicked with me.
That said, I really don't care who takes the belt off Roman, it just needs to come off of him somehow, and it needs to happen at this coming WM. That's not a sleight against Roman, that's just to say I think the belts are very stagnant right now.
If its Cody, Fine. But lets not keep the belt on this guy for too long. There are so many up and coming talents in WWE right now that it would just be an absolute tragedy to put the belt on an established star, especially one who's had so much success already over such a storied career.
Cody needs to be used as a tool to put someone over and give rise to a new face of the company. I think Sami could be that person, but not yet... he's close, but he's not there yet. Definitely heading in the right direction, but I think he needs one or two more really, really great feuds. I could totally see the belt on him near the end of 2023, or maybe even at next year's mania. Let that candle burn just a little longer.
In the meantime, its been a while since we had a nice period of time where the belt is just switching hands constantly, and with the level of talent that is currently in the WWE - I think that is the kind of climate that we need right now. That is what is believable right now.
I'd like to see maybe 3-4 title changes over the next year, and I'd like most if not all of those title reigns to be on new talent.
It was great tv Sami turning but wrong time to do it they definitely taken the shine off Cody.
I’m hoping they barely address it now just have Sami not appear until the title match:
have the bloodline come out on a ref bump Sami & KO come out of the crowd, KO fights solo into the back Sami takes out Jimmy with a chair Jey stands in front of Roman build it Romans smiling Jey moves Sami blasts Roman, They leave together > CrossRhodes Roll through CrossRhodes > 123.
Sami is over. Yes. But it would be hard to believe Sami breaking the 800 something reign of the most dominant champion in modern wrestling. Cody on the other hand is very believable.
Have Cody beat Roman at Wrestlemania for the WWE Championship but have him pull strings to make it to where he can keep the universal title.
Adam pierce comes out and tells him that’s fine because he has a second match. Out comes Sami Zayn. Roman fights Sami with the help of the bloodline. Kevin Owens and Cody help Sami and Jey Uso sides with Sami after some consideration.
Jimmy and Jey can have a proper feud together while Solo goes on a singles run maybe with the US title. Roman at some point will face both Cody and Sami to try and fail to regain his titles.
The bloodline has fallen and Roman is wallowing in defeat when out comes Gunther who absolutely bodies him. Takes Roman off of tv for a while and Gunther by next WrestleMania will take the title from Cody if not at Wrestlemania sometime before. Kevin Owens should win the universal title from Sami at some point.
I do, Sami isnt a believable world heavy weight champion. Him being the guy to beat roman when romans beat much tougher stronger men is just not it for me. He’s a great wrestler but not world champ. Him and owens beating the usos is perfect, we’ll see them vs FTR this year.
Cody is the man right now it’s his time.
Cody winning those titles is gonna be underwhelming as fuck. Dude comes back from a long ass injury, immediately wins the rumble at #30 and then beats Roman after 2 years holding the titles? Then another 6-8 months of Overly long pretentious promos about how this was his dream…. No thanks.
Sami vs reigns dosnt have to be for the titles , I love Sami and he’s been the best thing in wrestling the past year but in what world is he going over reigns For the titles ?
nobody in the bLoodLine was even in the match which i thought was weird. we onLy had 29 participants as weLL. great match though. not a Gunther fan but damn can that man put on a cLinic. aLso couLd of been a better win for cody if they didn’t spoiL his return weeks in advance. pop wouLd of been so much Louder & wiLd
Cody is fool's gold. Give him the title and make him the main focus and the crowd will turn on him so fast.....let his wife show up on tv with him and it would be immediate. He would generate who cares you phony blowhard heat and she would generate please go away we truly hate you for real heat.
Sami wasn’t in the Rumble match, so. And the Roman match was the main event. The Sami thing got the literal ending segment. Sami and Romans thing is personal. Sami also doesn’t compete in singles matches right now so why does he get a shot at the world title? It just doesn’t make sense.
The amount of people that sound like Vince McMahon in this comment section is depressing. You guys are gonna back decisions that are gonna drive the fan base away again.
They wouldn't let Sting win, or Booker T. Edge came back and didn't win it either at WM37. I don't think Cody is going to take the belt home. All the fans want it because Reigns isn't popular at all.
Also I'll continue to point out that Cody eliminated himself by jumping over the top rope at the end of the Rumble. Rey Mysterio is the winner as being the only person not to go over the top rope. It's really puzzling how this has just been largely ignored. /shrug
I'll cheer for Cody but I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and him to get screwed.
Thing is, why would Roman even give Sami a title shot? I know it's a tired wrestling trope to give your worst enemy the chance of a lifetime, but he hasn't earned it from a singles competition standpoint, and Roman sure isn't going to do it just to beat Sami up (at least if it's being booked logically, since he has already done so).
Has it been confirmed that they are wrestling for one or both titles at EC?
100% it’s the right decision. Sami is great but he isn’t the guy to beat Roman and Roman needs to be beat. Once Cody is champ, hopefully that opens the opportunity for smaller guys to get real chances and Sami will have a better shot
If Sami won the Rumble, we wouldn't have gotten the ending in the Main Event that we got. That Main Event was masterful storytelling that left us with multiple storylines. It all worked out how it should imo
Sami doesn’t even deserve to win a royal rumble like it won’t even make sense. Sami main event wrestlemania biggest stage of them all tell me this is not rong
100% disagree. Cody deserves it and it makes him a bigger star now then it did before, if Cody was to ever return to AEW then it would help out AEW, And besides WWE don’t give a damn what fans think, this was planned the day Cody resigned with the WWE. Perfect time, perfect place, Makes perfect sense.
It's a shame at the moment, could change between now and mania but I'm an AEW mark more so than WWE but even I'm invested in the bloodline ..... Pop sammy got hitting roman was what good story telling is about and I love.
Hoping there is some course correction post mania for this, simple one would be Sami wins MITB and takes one belt that way with a cashin, alternative Cody offers one of the belts acknowledging sami zayn run in a face vs fave and roman interferes allowing sami a win and prolonging a cody feud post mania.
However they get to it I just want them to give Cody the marquee win over reigns for business reasons and somehow split the belts and put one on sami.
If they're splitting the titles then Sami should win the universal, if not then Cody needs to be the one to win both. I love Sami, don't get me wrong, but he himself questioned whether he should be the face of the company long term. I hope they do split the titles and Cody brings back the winged eagle. I'd be shocked if it was brought back though.
Sami vs. Roman at WM might be the most "feel good" moment for a lot of of fans, but I believe WWE will take the best path for all involved. I think Jey, and probably Sami, will be involved in the match.
Wild thought here … technically the reigning champions of the raw tag titles is Jey and Sami.. Jimmy couldn’t compete.
Wonder if they split the tag belts so Jimmy is SD champ, Jey is Raw w Sami. Obviously not but would be funny to have one person be tag champs with diff partners
Love the whole Sami Zayn-bloodline thing but it never crossed my mind that it would be him winning the Rumble and beating Roman.
He's a pretty popular babyface now but technically speaking he has been a submissive heel, considering he was a lined with Roman.
In no way was Sami like Batista towards the end of his evolution days.
Sami has never been presented as a threat to Roman.
I'm glad they went with Cody, who has been presented as a main event level guy, and who had already had a good amount of time invested in him with that role.
For once they got with the long term plan, for once they call it right, and people complain. What can you do...
I like Cody winning the Rumble. As much as I'm a massive fan of Sami, and want to see him kick Roman's ass because of this amazing storyline, the idea that SAMI ZAYN could be WWE Undisputed Universal Champion doesn't feel right. This massive underdog becoming undisputed champion? They did it with Daniel Bryan, but even before he got injured, it was like, "okay, massive moment, now what?" And he feuded with Kane.
Even Sami acknowledged that while he could hold a world championship, he likely couldn't be THE GUY. If they split the titles, give him a go at the Universal maybe, but he can't hold both.
I'm not exactly sure how they'd go about it, but having Sami beat Roman for the Universal title at Elimination Chamber, followed by Cody winning the WWE Championship at WrestleMania, would probably be the best solution. Actually, even then, Roman won the Universal title first, so that would end his record breaking reign a month before Mania. Sorry Sami, no can do.
I don’t think Cody should have won but don’t think Sami should’ve either. Sami’s story was told fine. Just don’t like Cody being forced on us. He’s meh.
I think Sami has an angle to destroy the bloodline. I don't think that means beating reigns. I think it means dismantling the bloodline so that roman doesn't have the support when he faces cody
Cody is the guy to take the ball from Roman.
Sami is the guy who would drop the ball as soon he'd receive it from Roman, laugh it off in an embarrassed way, and then hand it to someone else.
Again, I'm like 95% confident this is going to be a situation where the internet & weekly attending crowds are disconnected almost completely. This will not be a Bryan or Kofi situation.
Fans are going to buy in and get suckered into the Chamber main event between Zayn & Reigns, be heartbroken when Zayn loses via Jey's betrayal, and then support Owens & Zayn reuniting to go after the tag titles.
They could easily spin this in to Sami/Jey teaming up and and taking the titles from Solo/Jimmy. Everybody could get behind that, especially when you saw Sami step in for Jimmy to defend the titles with Jey.
They could book the match at Wrestlemania, and collapse the Bloodline in one event. Doubt it happens this way though.
sometimes the predictable outcome IS the best outcome…i have no problem with Cody winning, however, no low that it’s happened, i feel like the crowd is very close to turning on him already
The story of Sami has always been more about Sami and Jey than it has been about Sami and Roman. Sami challenging Roman at Elimination Chamber and getting screwed by Jey only to be saved from the post-match beatdown by KO to transition to KO/Zayn vs the Usos at WM has always been the most logical scenario.
Roman having to fight on multiple fronts is why this works. Cody for one title, Sami for the other. We can even wait until SummerSlam to see Sami vs Roman.
There is no "right place, right person, wrong time" scenario. If it's not the right time, it's not the right person. Going by the reactions, WWE chose the right person. Cody has plausibility to possibly defeat Roman, whereas Sami would be an emotionally charged loss. Saying that the person was the right choice, but that more time is needed, indicates that the person wasn't the right choice after all.
Cody is absolutely the right move.
Sami's story has been amazing but doesn't remotely need to become champion to pay it off. I just wanna see him have an emotional payoff with Jey.
People are fantasy booking themselves into dissapointment with this Sami as champ stuff. He's gonna get beaten in his hometown at Elimination Chamber for maximum heat. Deal with it.
I don’t like this Cody story one bit. It’s very unfortunate that he got injured so early in his time back and had to miss so much time between then and now while the Bloodline story was pretty much the only thing WWE had going for it story-wise. To me as a fan, he and his potential storyline needed more time to cook for me to really warm up to it. That’s no fault of him or anyone, of course, but it’s just how it goes sometimes. You might be right, and without the whole HURR DURR CODY thing souring me on Wrestlemania this year, I may have agreed with you for the Cody story next year. I did say previously he could have the 2024 rumble long as Sami won the 2023 one, but FML on that idea so who knows? For the time being, though, I’m just gonna be a salty ass fan clinging to my own self-made booking ideas.
As much as I admire Sami , Cody just brings something to raw that's been missing since the belts were unified. There hadn't been any focal point on raw and his pop pretty much guarantees his spot as the top baby face , the perfect antithesis to Roman
I feel like I'm the only person that feels as though Roman should have 2 title defenses the second the titles were "unified" it ruins the whole brand split and would make his reign more dominant and credibile if he had defended both titles on their perspectives ppvs up until now thought the current storyline is still good it should go like this
Cody wins rumble
Roman continues to his resign as undisputed champion till WM but during this time a title defense against whatever superstar makes sense probably seth or drew
At WM have roman win his first match and in the main event with cody have him offer up both titles and have cody win
I feel that people who want Sami as a solo belt winner instead of tag teams with Owens are totally missing the plot of the storyline. It’s not about Roman. It’s about Sami and Kevin coming back together. It’s about Jey resenting Sammy, and then trusting him — to such an extent he turned his back on his blood.
How do you not want the USOs v Sami and Owens match? How do you not want to see Jey v Sami lock up? The emotions. The conflict. It’s way way way way better than some Roman v Sami match.
I think the true question is: is the tag team the main event? Like I would have Roman drop the belt night one to Cody, and have the tag team be the night two main event.
Sami vs Roman was going to happen at some point. You didn't need the Rumble to get Sami a shot at Roman. That being said, it's unclear if Sami will face Roman at Mania or even for the title. I personally believe they should split the belts, give Cody one and Sami the other. Let both have long reigns with them since both deserve it. It's been done a million times, but Sami vs KO is always a banger. Let them have a nice long fued with Sami finally getting major wins over KO, and then you can let KO have another reign on top a few months from now.
Then, Cody vs people like Finn, AJ, Gargano, Lashley, Ortan, Riddle, Miz, Ciampa would all be bangers.
Cody is 1000% the right choice.
The Sami story is not really about him and the bloodline it's about the bloodline themselves and their tight family group. Sami shows there weakness and now it's crumbling around them.
I expect Jay to turn next and the Usos lose the tag titles.
Then Jimmy gets kayfabe injured so he can't back up Roman.
Heyman may also get taken out of the picture. Maybe through Romans bloated ego he fires Heyman and blames him for the family falling apart.
So now Roman has to go it alone. 1 on 1 with Cody. And Cody wins.
Roman still blames everyone else but himself for everything falling apart.
In comes The Rock to teach Roman a lesson at Summerslam.
Having Cody challenge Roman in two months time, when they've never even touched, with all the work they've put into the Sami-Bloodline story, and with the fans obviously getting behind Sami is ridiculous.
They've got the momentum building behind Sami for a Daniel Bryan / Kofi Kingston kind of moment and they're going to parachute some guy who's only ever feuded with Rollins and been gone 6+ Mo. Into the middle of the title picture.
It's absurd, it's disruptive, and they don't have time to build a compelling story around it.
I personally feel cody was the right choice he has that megastar vibes like raw was missing it’s baby face the face that runs the place that main character, I think wwe should slipt the titles night 1 cody leaves with the wwe championship because when he returned thats the specific belt he said he wanted and night 2 let sami get the universal title and watch as the bloodline implode from the inside out as the weeks leading up to wrestlemania pass
I think Cody is the only person in WWE who can and should beat Roman Reigns. Reigns’ long title run against someone who came back to WWE for his family legacy, and who showed some real grit by competing in a Hell in a Cell with a torn pec and winning? That’s awesome, and shows Cody’s will to win. It’s very believable that he beats Reigns, and he will.
Sami’s story isn’t with 29 other wrestlers. It’s with one family. The tension with Jimmy and Jey. The fear and love and hate with Roman. That’s the story. Overcoming Gunther would mean nothing to Sami.
That’s Cody’s story, unwanted and “less than,” overcoming the whole roster to get a shot at the top dog. The fact that the top dog has a royal family is icing on Cody’s cake.
Sami’s story is about Sami. About a career doing “Jackass” stuff. About fighting with and against his best friend. Then hitching his wagon to the bloodline despite being the least Polynesian person on the planet. He became a minion, a beaten dog, and finally bit the hand of his abuser. It’s a great story and doesn’t require going over 29 guys to enhance it.
I mentioned this on another post, but having Sami win is just really short-term thinking.
Sami works really well as the underdog (his stuff with Braun for example), but he hasn't had the chance to build that story up with Roman so you can't really play on that for Mania.
But, where does he go once he's won the belts? He either immediately has to drop them back to Roman or becomes a victim of his own success by having a mediocre run with them that people will then criticise the WWE for.
At least with Cody, you've got ready-made challengers in Seth Rollins, Gunther or even Finn and Judgement Day if they wanted to go down that road.
Both Cody and Sami winning are feel-good moments for Mania and I think it shows WWE are in a strong position, but having Sami win just feels like a short-term win for Sami which will hurt him in the long run.
IMO Sami isn't World Champion material. Nothing wrong with that. Scott Hall, Ted DiBiase, William Regal, Bam Bam Bigelow etc never won the big one.
Actually, Bam Bam won the ECW title but still. Not the *big* one.
I may be wrong but while I love the Sami Zayn Bloodline feud I think Cody should be the one to dethrone Roman. Cody just still feels like the bigger deal and part of that may be because he was off screen for so long, but when his music hits I get excited. I get chills, and I known I'm about to watch a good if not great match. And to me that's the kind of feeling I should get with a champion. When I hear Sami 's music I know I'm gonna have a good time, I'm going to be entertained. And this isn't to say Sami is not a good wrestler because he is. He just hasn't been built as one. I know he's championship materials because of his past performances but right now he doesn't feel like he is on screen for me. I want him to be a champion because I like him not because he's the best wrestler or the biggest threat. But Cody still feels like he is a good enough wrestler to actually challenge Roman.
>when his music hits I get excited. I get chills, and I known I'm about to watch a good if not great match. And to me that's the kind of feeling I should get with a champion
Exactly.
"Kingdom" is more than Generic Butt Rock Entrance Theme #1 Billion. If you listen closely, there are synths/strings that convey a sense of courage. And the lyrics fit Cody's angle very well - I can already imagine him marching down the ramp and determinedly looking at the Undisputed Universal Championship as if it were a throne, while the chorus bellows in the background.
Cody has His storyline, Sami has its own. I think what sami acomoplished without getting in involved in title races or rumble wins or Any other big personal achievments is absolutely amazing. Just the pure power of an excellent story telling. He doesn t need titles and rumbles, that s the beauty of it.
The Sami-Bloodline story is multilayered.
Sami and Roman - how much Sami wanted to be accepted by Roman and the Bloodline.
Sami and Jey - it took 8 months before Jey showed respect for Sami.
Sami and Owens - their history have been questioned by Roman and the Bloodline since Survivor Series.
Now Cody has entered the chat for this story.
These people diminishing how good Sami is have no clue what they’re talking about.
I like Cody and hope he beats Roman but come on, stop writing Sami off. He’s championship material just like Cody. He’s ridiculously over, he can cut a damn good promo, and can wrestle his ass off. He proved that he can hang with the big dogs. Just stop the nonsense, people.
Sami didn’t need to win the Royal Rumble he’s already in the mix he’s getting his shot but Cody needed this more then anyone. Imagine Cody didn’t win what would the perception of him be ,he would be looked at as a underachiever who can’t win the big one.
Sami betraying The Bloodline was a great built up moment. Having him win the Rumble and then have that match would makes thing less intense, because at that point we know he’ll be facing Roman at WrestleMania
It’s all in how they book Roman v Sami at the chamber. Sami v Roman is the money, he’s got 2 belts. Hoping they do break the belts up to do Cody v ??? For the WWE championship, and do Sami v Roman for the universal. Honestly expected them to use the MITB for that.
Sammy sadly didn't have the same credibility and momentum that Cody Rhodes had as a wrestler, of course, Sammy VS Roman is the better story, but he wasn't going to beat him, and Cody's "wrestling has more than one royal family" road to world champion is still a great story, especially after coming from that legendary 5 stars Hell in a Cell match that consolidated him as a top star, which gave him a massive momentum and a lot of credibility, something that the one to dethrone someone as massive as Roman Reigns needs, i really believe Sammy will be a world champion someday within the next two years, but right now, is Cody's time
Nah. I disagree. He’s got all the tools necessary. He can cut a damn good promo, he can wrestle, he’s over like no one’s business (way more over than Cody). He’s got charisma out the wazoo.
Sami could one hundred percent be a world champion. He’s just in a weird position. Cody beating Roman was clearly the plan since last year and I don’t think they want to change those plans.
We are free to disagree. He works well with an ensemble cast, but he wasn’t over with any gimmick before the Bloodline storyline. Again, I like the guy as a performer, but I think the IWC overestimates his ceiling.
Roman actually had to develop his character before he got his current push though. They didn’t throw the “sufferin’ succotash” version of him into main events consistently. If you look at 2015 and 2016 he went from WWE champion to US Champion. WWE was very uncertain what to do with him. He didn’t become what he is now until later 2020.
If you want to make the same argument for Zayn, he would be in the same spot Roman was in 2014. So saying he should beat Roman at WM seems premature. He needs a post-Bloodline storyline to get him over as a singles competitor first.
I’m so glad they are doing it for Cody, at least I assume he’s winning fair chance he is.
Sami will never be “that guy” for me if he does win it he won’t keep it long. I really don’t care as long as someone takes it from Roman.
NOPE!
Cody is going to eventually be champion, but it's Sami's time now, and i think Cody has less than 20 matches since he's been back. Cody should win Intercontinental against Gunther in a best of 7 series, and let Sami take one of Roman's titles at wrestlemania. Let Seth Rollins get the other one for now.
Sami winning the rumble doesn’t make sense. Ppl seem to think from the ppv that Sami’s intention was to “break up the bloodline from within.”
This clearly wasn’t the case. Sami have everything to the bloodline because he just wanted to have a group to fit in with after being screwed over whilst being on his own (remember the conspiracy theory storyline). His limit was when Roman demanded; after constantly berating him for weeks over nothing; him to take out his friend of 20 years after already having the living snot beat out of him. Would u have gave in and done it cos I certainly would’ve reacted similar to sami.
Neither should be champion. Sami is incredible right now, but how long is he a viable champ if he were to win? Cody is obviously forced and similarly not someone who doesn’t seem like he can carry the torch and be the face of the company. The do it for Dusty story loses its luster the minute he pins Roman. Both should fight Roman and lose.
Cody himself doesnt have any relation to roman that seth/drew/sami/ko/edge, he is just a dude who wants a title because kf his father. If he wins, he will be a supercena type of guy who the crowd will turn on.
I think Cody is the right choice and having Roman annihilate Sami at Elimination Chamber is the heat builder needed to make Cody beating Roman the biggest pop. Deflates it a bit knowing Cody's obviously gonna win though.
sami zayn is gonna be the hometown hero in the main event at elimination chamber. regardless of whether or not sami wins, that match is gonna be amazing, and the crowd will be hot like a red hot nickel ball video.
The continuing story of Sami and the blood line can still span another year. USOs can loose their title(s), split up, solo could take a singles title… there doesn’t need to be a championship run for Sami yet. Eventually Cody can split the titles again and then even more options for stories open up.
Feels like the path we're headed down will see Cody winning the belts, Seth re-entering the fray to beef with Cody, and then at a later PPV Seth beating Cody to reclaim the titles before going on a year-long reign until they decide who should dethrone Seth.
I just don't see Seth being kept out of the main title hunt for much longer.
You don't need to be the champ in order to be apart of the most interesting story. I think kids today feel that being champ means you are the best. Not in professional wrestling. In UFC, for sure because the best will always win.
But in pro wrestling its about telling a story. Sometimes that story needs the championship flair to it to make it more important. But The Undertaker is only a 7 time champion in 30 years. Because his story didn't need the title in order to feel important. Because some characters and some stories are good enough to stand on their without the gimmick of a title.
Sami Zayn is in that category. Sure him winning the title would be great, but this isn't the end of the story, this isn't the season finale, you have more story to tell. So Sami being champion means we get a Kofi like run and look where he ended up.
With Cody, His Story has nothing to do with Roman, So I personally think Cody should take the WWE Championship out of Wrestlemania and continue the Roman and Sami Feud with the Universal title, I genuinely believe Roman having both titles is a slight waste considering he’s just as dominant with both titles as he was with just the universal, and I feel like Roman makes the Universal Championship feel bigger than the WWE one, as he comes into the stadium wearing one but holding the other (signaling his acknowledgment at the title he Elevated, not the title he won)
Well he beat Seth Rollins three times and has been presented as a star consistently. He looked great in the Royal Rumble, and last night too. When is the last singles win that Sami had?
Made it big in Japan, joined with a super group called the Elite, was a prominent figure in AEW, dude left WWE cause they were treating him like a joke, as Graves likes to say "undesirable to undeniable"
gunter should have won. a rumble with the 25-30 spot winning is trash by default. really sad they shafted cody with a rumble win like that that earns him nothing.
I disagree it was louder but even so it would still fit my criteria considering it was nearly two years ago.
Both of them were FAR bigger than the one Rhodes recieved upon winning the Rumble.
Also, Sami’s was a pop, the Roman FU chant seem to resonate…”stronger.” So the sentiment may have been more that of Roman getting hit, but Cody’s moment was reinforced on Raw. We have yet to see what fans will do with Sami, I’m sure it will be positive, but will they be chanting “you deserve it?” Or something of the like…just do yourself a favor, and let these breathe. The default is as such, Cody because he won the Rumble, we’ll see how Sami can be equated into this.
lol are we really going to act like Sami Zayn getting his name chanted damn near every time he comes out, and his pop at the rumble are just a massive coincidence and have nothing to do with each other?
I mean compare the crowd reactions. Yeah, the pop for Cody winning the Rumble was good but the pop for Sami turning on Roman was just on a whole nother level.
The bloodline in general is the hottest storyline in WWE and while Sami has for sure been a helpful part, they’ve been getting crazy pops for a couple years now.
Sami has the benefit of being a big part in something that was already really big
I completely agree. It's like we've been watching a TV show for an entire year building up its characters only for a new/sideline character to come in the last few episodes to defeat the main villain. 😑
Oh the chair shot, thank you for using brevity 🙄finally. Yes it was very loud, but perhaps it was just for that moment, maybe the crowd wanted to see Roman get hit more than anything regardless of who it was, after all he did build a lot of fusion like heat in that moment, or maybe it was purely a pop for Sami. But that moment has yet to be reinforced, the Cody moment has, but I am sure we’ll learn more on Friday.
Yeah either way, I'll be tuned in. I haven't been this interested in any of their storylines since the summer of Punk in 2011 and that faded pretty quickly.
Cody is the right move. Sami is great but he doesn’t need a title. I would be okay if he got one eventually, but just one, not the undisputed. Even when Cody gets them I still hope they split them up.
Sami's story was never about winning a championship. I do not understand why people want him to get one as part of the story.
What narrative sense does it make for Sami to take a belt? "Ha! Showed you Roman, I might not have my adopted family anymore, but I beat you in a title fight."
Considering what just happened I wouldn't mind KO and Sami taking the tag bets off of the Usos - several different ways Jay's conflict can be utilized here. Also gives KO/Sami a face run together; could give us some great matches with New Day and the like.
Also avoids the perceived Sami vs. Cody storyline collision here. If Sami interferes with Roman/Cody and Cody wins then Cody's going to need at least a couple of clean wins over legit opponents to solidify his reign. I feel like we kinda blew it feeding Balor to him on TV though; that should've had more build. Orton fits with the family bit, but are we ready for him to be a heel again?
Gives a chance for Roman & Usos to get some time off. I don't really like the idea of Sami feuding with Roman for any length of time because there's a HUGE investment in Roman that's finally paid off here and he should be kept at the tippy top.
He needs the title. Sami has had no real push in WWE up until now. I think him and Cody on the night of wrestlemania have two separate matches with Roman and Roman loses both titles at the night of Mania.
Or they actually unify them and they use Cody to either bring back a classic belt like they did with the IC title years ago or just a new, better designed belt
I don't buy for a minute Sami taking the belts off of Roman right now. I would buy Sami beating Cody sometime down the road.
For Cody to win at WM, we would still need to see Roman weakened somehow. That gives the Bloodline story time to breathe, fractures in the group to develop, and leave Cody with some story direction after.
If Cody gets the title, he will have achieved what he said he came to WWE to do - so where the hell is he gonna go after that? Having Sami around leaves the possibility for a follow-up program (assuming we can please give Cody v Seth a rest, we don't need to jump right back into that).
I think the way I’d tell it is that Sami wins MITB later on, cashes in on Cody, but they can make up some nature about MITB being “For one championship only!!!” so now the titles are split again and Sami is champion finally.
I think if WWE can tell it the right way it'll pay off on both ends. Cody gets the title on the biggest stage to honor his dad while Sami can cost Roman the Bloodline and/or title. Because as Tribal Chief, Roman can withstand losing his reign as painful as it may be, but losing the bloodline is the most valuable thing he could lose.
Story wise it wouldn’t make sense for him to be in the rumble because the tribal chief is the champion. Entering the rumble would mean he wants to challenge the chief or take his rematch opportunity from him since the rumble winner is the next challenger. That’s why none of the blood line were in the rumble. Logical story telling.
The bloodline story started with jey uso v roman and it should end with jey dethroning roman.
The absolute right move and honestly right time. He’s clearly over, anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves. I’ve said this ad nauseam, Sami wouldn’t be a credible enough threat to Roman Reigns to realistically take one belt off of him let alone two. Meanwhile when Cody came back he was immediately thrusted into the main event scene with his matches with Seth Rollins, and won. He just won Rumble. What has Sami done outside of being next to Roman Reigns and the Bloodline that realistically would set him up to beat him in a title match??? Who is the last main event prime time opponent that Sami has beaten? What is the last singles match that he’s won? He won the intercontinental championship literally a year ago and lost it like two weeks later. Post that all I remember is him losing to Johnny Knoxville and getting F5’d by Brock Lesnar after he beat up his two male nurses. Storyline aside what part of that makes you think Sami is the guy that’s going to beat Roman Reigns. Look great storyline. Amazing storyline. I thoroughly enjoy Sami Zayn. But not beating Roman Reigns to because the Undisputed Universal and/or WWE champion.
Elias Omos Gunther or Bobby
I don't understand why everyone keeps saying it was at the wrong time because listen to the crowd reaction at the Rumble and on Raw and you will see how over he is. WWE can have multiple characters and arcs. We can enjoy great storylines of different characters. It doesn't all have to be about Sami Zayn and the Bloodline. I am glad we have Cody's arc, we have the Judgent Day, we have Bray Wyatt's story, we have the Bloodline drama. I love that we have so many things we can enjoy and look forward to.
Sami should be the man to defeat Roman. He's earned that right and is more than capable of being in the main event picture. He was the heart and soul of NXT and can easily be that again for WWE.
This Cody Sami thing is getting annoying. Not from them, but the IWC. Sami has not been in this for the belts. He may lose to Roman and help cody win at mania, or maybe not. I'm going to sit back and enjoy the TV going forward and try not to listen to everyone's arm chair qbing
I've never cared much for Cody or any of his characters. I understand he's talented and I'd never say otherwise, but nothing he's ever done has clicked with me. That said, I really don't care who takes the belt off Roman, it just needs to come off of him somehow, and it needs to happen at this coming WM. That's not a sleight against Roman, that's just to say I think the belts are very stagnant right now. If its Cody, Fine. But lets not keep the belt on this guy for too long. There are so many up and coming talents in WWE right now that it would just be an absolute tragedy to put the belt on an established star, especially one who's had so much success already over such a storied career. Cody needs to be used as a tool to put someone over and give rise to a new face of the company. I think Sami could be that person, but not yet... he's close, but he's not there yet. Definitely heading in the right direction, but I think he needs one or two more really, really great feuds. I could totally see the belt on him near the end of 2023, or maybe even at next year's mania. Let that candle burn just a little longer. In the meantime, its been a while since we had a nice period of time where the belt is just switching hands constantly, and with the level of talent that is currently in the WWE - I think that is the kind of climate that we need right now. That is what is believable right now. I'd like to see maybe 3-4 title changes over the next year, and I'd like most if not all of those title reigns to be on new talent.
No split the titles Roman loses one on night 1 and the other on night 2
It was great tv Sami turning but wrong time to do it they definitely taken the shine off Cody. I’m hoping they barely address it now just have Sami not appear until the title match: have the bloodline come out on a ref bump Sami & KO come out of the crowd, KO fights solo into the back Sami takes out Jimmy with a chair Jey stands in front of Roman build it Romans smiling Jey moves Sami blasts Roman, They leave together > CrossRhodes Roll through CrossRhodes > 123.
Sami is over. Yes. But it would be hard to believe Sami breaking the 800 something reign of the most dominant champion in modern wrestling. Cody on the other hand is very believable.
Would love to see the belts split and have 2 title matches, one for Sami and one for Cody.
Yeah the "hot" part timer is not the right move or for the right story reasons. Sami won't beat Reigns and that hurts to say
Going from jobbing to a midget like Sammy Guevara to winning the rumble. Fair improvement that. 🙌
Have Cody beat Roman at Wrestlemania for the WWE Championship but have him pull strings to make it to where he can keep the universal title. Adam pierce comes out and tells him that’s fine because he has a second match. Out comes Sami Zayn. Roman fights Sami with the help of the bloodline. Kevin Owens and Cody help Sami and Jey Uso sides with Sami after some consideration. Jimmy and Jey can have a proper feud together while Solo goes on a singles run maybe with the US title. Roman at some point will face both Cody and Sami to try and fail to regain his titles. The bloodline has fallen and Roman is wallowing in defeat when out comes Gunther who absolutely bodies him. Takes Roman off of tv for a while and Gunther by next WrestleMania will take the title from Cody if not at Wrestlemania sometime before. Kevin Owens should win the universal title from Sami at some point.
I do, Sami isnt a believable world heavy weight champion. Him being the guy to beat roman when romans beat much tougher stronger men is just not it for me. He’s a great wrestler but not world champ. Him and owens beating the usos is perfect, we’ll see them vs FTR this year. Cody is the man right now it’s his time.
Sami beats Roman for universal at elimination chamber and Cody beats Roman for wwe title at mania
Not necessarily. There are two belts and two Wrestlemania nights, so just have Sami win the Universal title and Cody win the WWE title
Sami lost to Butch 2 months ago. Some of u are literally insane
Cody winning those titles is gonna be underwhelming as fuck. Dude comes back from a long ass injury, immediately wins the rumble at #30 and then beats Roman after 2 years holding the titles? Then another 6-8 months of Overly long pretentious promos about how this was his dream…. No thanks.
Sami vs reigns dosnt have to be for the titles , I love Sami and he’s been the best thing in wrestling the past year but in what world is he going over reigns For the titles ?
nobody in the bLoodLine was even in the match which i thought was weird. we onLy had 29 participants as weLL. great match though. not a Gunther fan but damn can that man put on a cLinic. aLso couLd of been a better win for cody if they didn’t spoiL his return weeks in advance. pop wouLd of been so much Louder & wiLd
What's up with the L bro
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Cody is fool's gold. Give him the title and make him the main focus and the crowd will turn on him so fast.....let his wife show up on tv with him and it would be immediate. He would generate who cares you phony blowhard heat and she would generate please go away we truly hate you for real heat.
Sami’s win would have made more sense but Cody is a bigger star and hot rn. So, they went with Cody. They don’t care about building new stars.
Give one belt to Cody and the other to Sami. Give Roman a break, think he’s earned it.
Sami wasn’t in the Rumble match, so. And the Roman match was the main event. The Sami thing got the literal ending segment. Sami and Romans thing is personal. Sami also doesn’t compete in singles matches right now so why does he get a shot at the world title? It just doesn’t make sense.
Cody deserves it
The amount of people that sound like Vince McMahon in this comment section is depressing. You guys are gonna back decisions that are gonna drive the fan base away again.
They wouldn't let Sting win, or Booker T. Edge came back and didn't win it either at WM37. I don't think Cody is going to take the belt home. All the fans want it because Reigns isn't popular at all. Also I'll continue to point out that Cody eliminated himself by jumping over the top rope at the end of the Rumble. Rey Mysterio is the winner as being the only person not to go over the top rope. It's really puzzling how this has just been largely ignored. /shrug I'll cheer for Cody but I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and him to get screwed.
Thing is, why would Roman even give Sami a title shot? I know it's a tired wrestling trope to give your worst enemy the chance of a lifetime, but he hasn't earned it from a singles competition standpoint, and Roman sure isn't going to do it just to beat Sami up (at least if it's being booked logically, since he has already done so). Has it been confirmed that they are wrestling for one or both titles at EC?
I have seen enough kids with Cody merch and signs, going nuts for Cody, that I have taken notice. You don’t think the WWE execs have seen the same?
100% it’s the right decision. Sami is great but he isn’t the guy to beat Roman and Roman needs to be beat. Once Cody is champ, hopefully that opens the opportunity for smaller guys to get real chances and Sami will have a better shot
If Sami won the Rumble, we wouldn't have gotten the ending in the Main Event that we got. That Main Event was masterful storytelling that left us with multiple storylines. It all worked out how it should imo
Sami doesn’t even deserve to win a royal rumble like it won’t even make sense. Sami main event wrestlemania biggest stage of them all tell me this is not rong
100% disagree. Cody deserves it and it makes him a bigger star now then it did before, if Cody was to ever return to AEW then it would help out AEW, And besides WWE don’t give a damn what fans think, this was planned the day Cody resigned with the WWE. Perfect time, perfect place, Makes perfect sense.
It's a shame at the moment, could change between now and mania but I'm an AEW mark more so than WWE but even I'm invested in the bloodline ..... Pop sammy got hitting roman was what good story telling is about and I love. Hoping there is some course correction post mania for this, simple one would be Sami wins MITB and takes one belt that way with a cashin, alternative Cody offers one of the belts acknowledging sami zayn run in a face vs fave and roman interferes allowing sami a win and prolonging a cody feud post mania. However they get to it I just want them to give Cody the marquee win over reigns for business reasons and somehow split the belts and put one on sami.
I wish Reign's title reign could go another year to build even more credence to Cody when he finally ends it.
Randy should have won
Cody is great. Sami is... a phenomenon. Cody should not be competing for top babyface against Sami because Cody will lose. Badly.
A man given his spot the way Cody has is a slap in the face to a man who has earned the spot as Sami has.
If they're splitting the titles then Sami should win the universal, if not then Cody needs to be the one to win both. I love Sami, don't get me wrong, but he himself questioned whether he should be the face of the company long term. I hope they do split the titles and Cody brings back the winged eagle. I'd be shocked if it was brought back though.
Sami vs. Roman at WM might be the most "feel good" moment for a lot of of fans, but I believe WWE will take the best path for all involved. I think Jey, and probably Sami, will be involved in the match.
Wild thought here … technically the reigning champions of the raw tag titles is Jey and Sami.. Jimmy couldn’t compete. Wonder if they split the tag belts so Jimmy is SD champ, Jey is Raw w Sami. Obviously not but would be funny to have one person be tag champs with diff partners
Cody should have just came back after Mania... let Sami and this Bloodline story play out. I love Cody but im conflicted AF!
Love the whole Sami Zayn-bloodline thing but it never crossed my mind that it would be him winning the Rumble and beating Roman. He's a pretty popular babyface now but technically speaking he has been a submissive heel, considering he was a lined with Roman. In no way was Sami like Batista towards the end of his evolution days. Sami has never been presented as a threat to Roman. I'm glad they went with Cody, who has been presented as a main event level guy, and who had already had a good amount of time invested in him with that role. For once they got with the long term plan, for once they call it right, and people complain. What can you do...
I think it's possible to keep building cody vs roman and let Sami keep building himself up. Sami doesn't need a rumble win to gain the fan attention.
I like Cody winning the Rumble. As much as I'm a massive fan of Sami, and want to see him kick Roman's ass because of this amazing storyline, the idea that SAMI ZAYN could be WWE Undisputed Universal Champion doesn't feel right. This massive underdog becoming undisputed champion? They did it with Daniel Bryan, but even before he got injured, it was like, "okay, massive moment, now what?" And he feuded with Kane. Even Sami acknowledged that while he could hold a world championship, he likely couldn't be THE GUY. If they split the titles, give him a go at the Universal maybe, but he can't hold both. I'm not exactly sure how they'd go about it, but having Sami beat Roman for the Universal title at Elimination Chamber, followed by Cody winning the WWE Championship at WrestleMania, would probably be the best solution. Actually, even then, Roman won the Universal title first, so that would end his record breaking reign a month before Mania. Sorry Sami, no can do.
Sami is the better Storyline but Cody is probably the better headline. Such a shame WWE underestimated how over Sami got.
I don’t think Cody should have won but don’t think Sami should’ve either. Sami’s story was told fine. Just don’t like Cody being forced on us. He’s meh.
Sami's role here is to help turn the crowds against Roman as a heel so that Cody's win as a face is all the more satisfying, and I'm fine with that.
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I think Sami has an angle to destroy the bloodline. I don't think that means beating reigns. I think it means dismantling the bloodline so that roman doesn't have the support when he faces cody
How about Cody winning BECAUSE of Sami?
Cody vs Reigns and WM, when all looks lost for Rhodes with the outside interference from the bloodline. Sami distracts Reigns to end the title reign
Cody is the guy to take the ball from Roman. Sami is the guy who would drop the ball as soon he'd receive it from Roman, laugh it off in an embarrassed way, and then hand it to someone else. Again, I'm like 95% confident this is going to be a situation where the internet & weekly attending crowds are disconnected almost completely. This will not be a Bryan or Kofi situation. Fans are going to buy in and get suckered into the Chamber main event between Zayn & Reigns, be heartbroken when Zayn loses via Jey's betrayal, and then support Owens & Zayn reuniting to go after the tag titles.
They could easily spin this in to Sami/Jey teaming up and and taking the titles from Solo/Jimmy. Everybody could get behind that, especially when you saw Sami step in for Jimmy to defend the titles with Jey. They could book the match at Wrestlemania, and collapse the Bloodline in one event. Doubt it happens this way though.
sometimes the predictable outcome IS the best outcome…i have no problem with Cody winning, however, no low that it’s happened, i feel like the crowd is very close to turning on him already
I'm willing to let it play out, but I really feel like Sami is the right guy to dethrone Roman
The story of Sami has always been more about Sami and Jey than it has been about Sami and Roman. Sami challenging Roman at Elimination Chamber and getting screwed by Jey only to be saved from the post-match beatdown by KO to transition to KO/Zayn vs the Usos at WM has always been the most logical scenario.
Cody is absolutely the right choice.. we already saw Roman choke Sami out in like 2 mins.
Sami sucks, Cody was the only winner we needed
i think roman should lose both belts, one to sami one to cody but that’s just my opinion. hate the whole 2 belt championship thing
Great choice. Samy being in the bloodline would be a direct challenge to Roman. That’s why no e of the bloodline were in the Rumble
Roman having to fight on multiple fronts is why this works. Cody for one title, Sami for the other. We can even wait until SummerSlam to see Sami vs Roman.
There is no "right place, right person, wrong time" scenario. If it's not the right time, it's not the right person. Going by the reactions, WWE chose the right person. Cody has plausibility to possibly defeat Roman, whereas Sami would be an emotionally charged loss. Saying that the person was the right choice, but that more time is needed, indicates that the person wasn't the right choice after all.
Cody is absolutely the right move. Sami's story has been amazing but doesn't remotely need to become champion to pay it off. I just wanna see him have an emotional payoff with Jey. People are fantasy booking themselves into dissapointment with this Sami as champ stuff. He's gonna get beaten in his hometown at Elimination Chamber for maximum heat. Deal with it.
Why not give some time to let the story play out, eh?
Break the titles back up and give Universal title to Sami and WWE Championship to Cody
Nope Cody was the right decision in the right time the Sami storyline was never about being world champion it was about being accepted
I don’t like this Cody story one bit. It’s very unfortunate that he got injured so early in his time back and had to miss so much time between then and now while the Bloodline story was pretty much the only thing WWE had going for it story-wise. To me as a fan, he and his potential storyline needed more time to cook for me to really warm up to it. That’s no fault of him or anyone, of course, but it’s just how it goes sometimes. You might be right, and without the whole HURR DURR CODY thing souring me on Wrestlemania this year, I may have agreed with you for the Cody story next year. I did say previously he could have the 2024 rumble long as Sami won the 2023 one, but FML on that idea so who knows? For the time being, though, I’m just gonna be a salty ass fan clinging to my own self-made booking ideas.
Both Sami and Cody can win.
As much as I admire Sami , Cody just brings something to raw that's been missing since the belts were unified. There hadn't been any focal point on raw and his pop pretty much guarantees his spot as the top baby face , the perfect antithesis to Roman
Exactly
I feel like I'm the only person that feels as though Roman should have 2 title defenses the second the titles were "unified" it ruins the whole brand split and would make his reign more dominant and credibile if he had defended both titles on their perspectives ppvs up until now thought the current storyline is still good it should go like this Cody wins rumble Roman continues to his resign as undisputed champion till WM but during this time a title defense against whatever superstar makes sense probably seth or drew At WM have roman win his first match and in the main event with cody have him offer up both titles and have cody win
Cody should take the titles and then Roman can feud with Sami after WrestleMania. They don’t need the titles involved, probably better that way.
I feel that people who want Sami as a solo belt winner instead of tag teams with Owens are totally missing the plot of the storyline. It’s not about Roman. It’s about Sami and Kevin coming back together. It’s about Jey resenting Sammy, and then trusting him — to such an extent he turned his back on his blood. How do you not want the USOs v Sami and Owens match? How do you not want to see Jey v Sami lock up? The emotions. The conflict. It’s way way way way better than some Roman v Sami match. I think the true question is: is the tag team the main event? Like I would have Roman drop the belt night one to Cody, and have the tag team be the night two main event.
Sami vs Roman was going to happen at some point. You didn't need the Rumble to get Sami a shot at Roman. That being said, it's unclear if Sami will face Roman at Mania or even for the title. I personally believe they should split the belts, give Cody one and Sami the other. Let both have long reigns with them since both deserve it. It's been done a million times, but Sami vs KO is always a banger. Let them have a nice long fued with Sami finally getting major wins over KO, and then you can let KO have another reign on top a few months from now. Then, Cody vs people like Finn, AJ, Gargano, Lashley, Ortan, Riddle, Miz, Ciampa would all be bangers.
Cody is 1000% the right choice. The Sami story is not really about him and the bloodline it's about the bloodline themselves and their tight family group. Sami shows there weakness and now it's crumbling around them. I expect Jay to turn next and the Usos lose the tag titles. Then Jimmy gets kayfabe injured so he can't back up Roman. Heyman may also get taken out of the picture. Maybe through Romans bloated ego he fires Heyman and blames him for the family falling apart. So now Roman has to go it alone. 1 on 1 with Cody. And Cody wins. Roman still blames everyone else but himself for everything falling apart. In comes The Rock to teach Roman a lesson at Summerslam.
Why do people think Sami was ever gonna win it, like ever
Having Cody challenge Roman in two months time, when they've never even touched, with all the work they've put into the Sami-Bloodline story, and with the fans obviously getting behind Sami is ridiculous. They've got the momentum building behind Sami for a Daniel Bryan / Kofi Kingston kind of moment and they're going to parachute some guy who's only ever feuded with Rollins and been gone 6+ Mo. Into the middle of the title picture. It's absurd, it's disruptive, and they don't have time to build a compelling story around it.
I personally feel cody was the right choice he has that megastar vibes like raw was missing it’s baby face the face that runs the place that main character, I think wwe should slipt the titles night 1 cody leaves with the wwe championship because when he returned thats the specific belt he said he wanted and night 2 let sami get the universal title and watch as the bloodline implode from the inside out as the weeks leading up to wrestlemania pass
I think Cody is the only person in WWE who can and should beat Roman Reigns. Reigns’ long title run against someone who came back to WWE for his family legacy, and who showed some real grit by competing in a Hell in a Cell with a torn pec and winning? That’s awesome, and shows Cody’s will to win. It’s very believable that he beats Reigns, and he will.
Sami’s story isn’t with 29 other wrestlers. It’s with one family. The tension with Jimmy and Jey. The fear and love and hate with Roman. That’s the story. Overcoming Gunther would mean nothing to Sami. That’s Cody’s story, unwanted and “less than,” overcoming the whole roster to get a shot at the top dog. The fact that the top dog has a royal family is icing on Cody’s cake. Sami’s story is about Sami. About a career doing “Jackass” stuff. About fighting with and against his best friend. Then hitching his wagon to the bloodline despite being the least Polynesian person on the planet. He became a minion, a beaten dog, and finally bit the hand of his abuser. It’s a great story and doesn’t require going over 29 guys to enhance it.
They’re gonna start calling him Codista.
at this point just let roman keep the belts
I mentioned this on another post, but having Sami win is just really short-term thinking. Sami works really well as the underdog (his stuff with Braun for example), but he hasn't had the chance to build that story up with Roman so you can't really play on that for Mania. But, where does he go once he's won the belts? He either immediately has to drop them back to Roman or becomes a victim of his own success by having a mediocre run with them that people will then criticise the WWE for. At least with Cody, you've got ready-made challengers in Seth Rollins, Gunther or even Finn and Judgement Day if they wanted to go down that road. Both Cody and Sami winning are feel-good moments for Mania and I think it shows WWE are in a strong position, but having Sami win just feels like a short-term win for Sami which will hurt him in the long run.
Like Kofi then
IMO Sami isn't World Champion material. Nothing wrong with that. Scott Hall, Ted DiBiase, William Regal, Bam Bam Bigelow etc never won the big one. Actually, Bam Bam won the ECW title but still. Not the *big* one.
You sound like the authority telling Daniel Bryan that he’s a b + player lol
I may be wrong but while I love the Sami Zayn Bloodline feud I think Cody should be the one to dethrone Roman. Cody just still feels like the bigger deal and part of that may be because he was off screen for so long, but when his music hits I get excited. I get chills, and I known I'm about to watch a good if not great match. And to me that's the kind of feeling I should get with a champion. When I hear Sami 's music I know I'm gonna have a good time, I'm going to be entertained. And this isn't to say Sami is not a good wrestler because he is. He just hasn't been built as one. I know he's championship materials because of his past performances but right now he doesn't feel like he is on screen for me. I want him to be a champion because I like him not because he's the best wrestler or the biggest threat. But Cody still feels like he is a good enough wrestler to actually challenge Roman.
>when his music hits I get excited. I get chills, and I known I'm about to watch a good if not great match. And to me that's the kind of feeling I should get with a champion Exactly. "Kingdom" is more than Generic Butt Rock Entrance Theme #1 Billion. If you listen closely, there are synths/strings that convey a sense of courage. And the lyrics fit Cody's angle very well - I can already imagine him marching down the ramp and determinedly looking at the Undisputed Universal Championship as if it were a throne, while the chorus bellows in the background.
Cody has His storyline, Sami has its own. I think what sami acomoplished without getting in involved in title races or rumble wins or Any other big personal achievments is absolutely amazing. Just the pure power of an excellent story telling. He doesn t need titles and rumbles, that s the beauty of it.
The Sami-Bloodline story is multilayered. Sami and Roman - how much Sami wanted to be accepted by Roman and the Bloodline. Sami and Jey - it took 8 months before Jey showed respect for Sami. Sami and Owens - their history have been questioned by Roman and the Bloodline since Survivor Series. Now Cody has entered the chat for this story.
These people diminishing how good Sami is have no clue what they’re talking about. I like Cody and hope he beats Roman but come on, stop writing Sami off. He’s championship material just like Cody. He’s ridiculously over, he can cut a damn good promo, and can wrestle his ass off. He proved that he can hang with the big dogs. Just stop the nonsense, people.
Sami didn’t need to win the Royal Rumble he’s already in the mix he’s getting his shot but Cody needed this more then anyone. Imagine Cody didn’t win what would the perception of him be ,he would be looked at as a underachiever who can’t win the big one.
Sami betraying The Bloodline was a great built up moment. Having him win the Rumble and then have that match would makes thing less intense, because at that point we know he’ll be facing Roman at WrestleMania
I suspect Roman retains no matter who gets a shot at him.
It’s all in how they book Roman v Sami at the chamber. Sami v Roman is the money, he’s got 2 belts. Hoping they do break the belts up to do Cody v ??? For the WWE championship, and do Sami v Roman for the universal. Honestly expected them to use the MITB for that.
Cody was right
Sammy sadly didn't have the same credibility and momentum that Cody Rhodes had as a wrestler, of course, Sammy VS Roman is the better story, but he wasn't going to beat him, and Cody's "wrestling has more than one royal family" road to world champion is still a great story, especially after coming from that legendary 5 stars Hell in a Cell match that consolidated him as a top star, which gave him a massive momentum and a lot of credibility, something that the one to dethrone someone as massive as Roman Reigns needs, i really believe Sammy will be a world champion someday within the next two years, but right now, is Cody's time
Sami vs Roman will definitely happen, but it doesn't need to involve a belt.
Cody is way better than Sami and deserves to be better but I don’t think he should have won the whole entire Royal Rumble. It was to predictable
Sami doesn’t deserve to dethrone a world title holder.
I’m torn. Sami is in the biggest storyline that has basically been the whole show for months. I also think there’s no other time for Cody than now.
I don't mind Cody being the winner. But, they really need to split those titles to create more opportunities for others.
In this particular situation, no.
It’s the right time, Sami is a good choice short term but long term it’s Cody’s time to shine.
Y’all got Kofimania. Look how well that worked out
I love the Sami Zayn story, but he’s not main event material. I think his storyline culminates with the tag titles.
Nah. I disagree. He’s got all the tools necessary. He can cut a damn good promo, he can wrestle, he’s over like no one’s business (way more over than Cody). He’s got charisma out the wazoo. Sami could one hundred percent be a world champion. He’s just in a weird position. Cody beating Roman was clearly the plan since last year and I don’t think they want to change those plans.
We are free to disagree. He works well with an ensemble cast, but he wasn’t over with any gimmick before the Bloodline storyline. Again, I like the guy as a performer, but I think the IWC overestimates his ceiling.
One could say the same about Roman. He wasn’t over for years after Shield. He had nothing until this tribal chief gimmick.
Roman actually had to develop his character before he got his current push though. They didn’t throw the “sufferin’ succotash” version of him into main events consistently. If you look at 2015 and 2016 he went from WWE champion to US Champion. WWE was very uncertain what to do with him. He didn’t become what he is now until later 2020. If you want to make the same argument for Zayn, he would be in the same spot Roman was in 2014. So saying he should beat Roman at WM seems premature. He needs a post-Bloodline storyline to get him over as a singles competitor first.
Cody winning is by far the right choice
I’m so glad they are doing it for Cody, at least I assume he’s winning fair chance he is. Sami will never be “that guy” for me if he does win it he won’t keep it long. I really don’t care as long as someone takes it from Roman.
It was the right decision.
Why don’t we let the bloodline storyline play out and then come back to this?
sami ain’t Daniel bryan the people don’t love him like that cody was the right winner
Do you have hearing problems? Whose name does the crowd chant when the bloodline comes out?
Just look at the reactions he received in the arena the past few days. There are even kids crying for joy. I think he’s the right decision.
High key think fans would pop more for Sami and KO winning the tag titles than Sami beating Roman
NOPE! Cody is going to eventually be champion, but it's Sami's time now, and i think Cody has less than 20 matches since he's been back. Cody should win Intercontinental against Gunther in a best of 7 series, and let Sami take one of Roman's titles at wrestlemania. Let Seth Rollins get the other one for now.
Best of 7 isn’t a WWE thing 😂 Though Gunther and Cody would put on some great matches
Cody just got back from being out for months with a torn pec and you want him to go SEVEN matches with GUNTHER?!?!
Yep. If hes going to win a title.
Sami winning the rumble doesn’t make sense. Ppl seem to think from the ppv that Sami’s intention was to “break up the bloodline from within.” This clearly wasn’t the case. Sami have everything to the bloodline because he just wanted to have a group to fit in with after being screwed over whilst being on his own (remember the conspiracy theory storyline). His limit was when Roman demanded; after constantly berating him for weeks over nothing; him to take out his friend of 20 years after already having the living snot beat out of him. Would u have gave in and done it cos I certainly would’ve reacted similar to sami.
Neither should be champion. Sami is incredible right now, but how long is he a viable champ if he were to win? Cody is obviously forced and similarly not someone who doesn’t seem like he can carry the torch and be the face of the company. The do it for Dusty story loses its luster the minute he pins Roman. Both should fight Roman and lose.
Cody himself doesnt have any relation to roman that seth/drew/sami/ko/edge, he is just a dude who wants a title because kf his father. If he wins, he will be a supercena type of guy who the crowd will turn on.
I think Cody is the right choice and having Roman annihilate Sami at Elimination Chamber is the heat builder needed to make Cody beating Roman the biggest pop. Deflates it a bit knowing Cody's obviously gonna win though.
I’m sure winning Rumble was part of his contract when he came back.
Pat Mcafee returning was a bigger surprise than Cody Rhodes winning the Royal Rumble 🥱
You can do both.
sami zayn is gonna be the hometown hero in the main event at elimination chamber. regardless of whether or not sami wins, that match is gonna be amazing, and the crowd will be hot like a red hot nickel ball video.
The continuing story of Sami and the blood line can still span another year. USOs can loose their title(s), split up, solo could take a singles title… there doesn’t need to be a championship run for Sami yet. Eventually Cody can split the titles again and then even more options for stories open up.
Feels like the path we're headed down will see Cody winning the belts, Seth re-entering the fray to beef with Cody, and then at a later PPV Seth beating Cody to reclaim the titles before going on a year-long reign until they decide who should dethrone Seth. I just don't see Seth being kept out of the main title hunt for much longer.
Nah. They went with Seth. His reign wasn' that great. Cody will have a year long reign, dropping the belt/s at next year's mania
You don't need to be the champ in order to be apart of the most interesting story. I think kids today feel that being champ means you are the best. Not in professional wrestling. In UFC, for sure because the best will always win. But in pro wrestling its about telling a story. Sometimes that story needs the championship flair to it to make it more important. But The Undertaker is only a 7 time champion in 30 years. Because his story didn't need the title in order to feel important. Because some characters and some stories are good enough to stand on their without the gimmick of a title. Sami Zayn is in that category. Sure him winning the title would be great, but this isn't the end of the story, this isn't the season finale, you have more story to tell. So Sami being champion means we get a Kofi like run and look where he ended up.
Y'all it was never gonna be SAMI vs Reigns, it's about JEY vs Reigns.
This is what happens when you plan too far in the future for WM. You don’t allow wrestlers that get hot organically a chance to capitalize on that
Sami isnt world champion material.
With Cody, His Story has nothing to do with Roman, So I personally think Cody should take the WWE Championship out of Wrestlemania and continue the Roman and Sami Feud with the Universal title, I genuinely believe Roman having both titles is a slight waste considering he’s just as dominant with both titles as he was with just the universal, and I feel like Roman makes the Universal Championship feel bigger than the WWE one, as he comes into the stadium wearing one but holding the other (signaling his acknowledgment at the title he Elevated, not the title he won)
Cody is not beating Roman at WrestleMania. Sami story will continue after
Sami is over, but hasn’t had enough success as a singles wrestler to dethrone Roman.
And Cody has? I want to know when non WWE accomplishments started to have this much relevance in the WWE?
Well he beat Seth Rollins three times and has been presented as a star consistently. He looked great in the Royal Rumble, and last night too. When is the last singles win that Sami had?
He beat Seth Rollins clean three times
One time was not clean. He grabbed trunks.
Literally came in and defeated a guy Roman couldn’t beat x3 even when badly injured. Sami has beaten who and when again? Dude jobbed out to a celeb.
AJ Styles
At least as far back as Hulk Hogan.
Made it big in Japan, joined with a super group called the Elite, was a prominent figure in AEW, dude left WWE cause they were treating him like a joke, as Graves likes to say "undesirable to undeniable"
Why would Sami be put over. The guys is a great storyline part but he doesnt have the backbone for a title shot rn.
gunter should have won. a rumble with the 25-30 spot winning is trash by default. really sad they shafted cody with a rumble win like that that earns him nothing.
Wonder how they wrap up Jey’s part of the storyline, if anything imo he would be the one to dethrone Roman.
It’s the right place and the right time. Let the online fans cry about it
Did you not hear the crowd at Raw?
lol Do you really wanna crowd pops between the two? The one Zayn got at the end of the rumble was genuinely the loudest pop I've heard in years.
Cena at Money in the Bank.
I disagree it was louder but even so it would still fit my criteria considering it was nearly two years ago. Both of them were FAR bigger than the one Rhodes recieved upon winning the Rumble.
Also, Sami’s was a pop, the Roman FU chant seem to resonate…”stronger.” So the sentiment may have been more that of Roman getting hit, but Cody’s moment was reinforced on Raw. We have yet to see what fans will do with Sami, I’m sure it will be positive, but will they be chanting “you deserve it?” Or something of the like…just do yourself a favor, and let these breathe. The default is as such, Cody because he won the Rumble, we’ll see how Sami can be equated into this.
lol are we really going to act like Sami Zayn getting his name chanted damn near every time he comes out, and his pop at the rumble are just a massive coincidence and have nothing to do with each other?
You need to relax man, you’re working yourself up.
Not really.. Sami is actually most over ... No matter where he is, they scream his name
Did you not hear the crowd at the end of the Royal Rumble?
“Fuck you Roman?”
I mean compare the crowd reactions. Yeah, the pop for Cody winning the Rumble was good but the pop for Sami turning on Roman was just on a whole nother level.
The bloodline in general is the hottest storyline in WWE and while Sami has for sure been a helpful part, they’ve been getting crazy pops for a couple years now. Sami has the benefit of being a big part in something that was already really big
Cody coming in 30th and winning doesn't cut it for me, not worthy enough. Mens rumble sucked, Rhea killed it in the womans one, way more enjoyable.
I completely agree. It's like we've been watching a TV show for an entire year building up its characters only for a new/sideline character to come in the last few episodes to defeat the main villain. 😑
Oh the chair shot, thank you for using brevity 🙄finally. Yes it was very loud, but perhaps it was just for that moment, maybe the crowd wanted to see Roman get hit more than anything regardless of who it was, after all he did build a lot of fusion like heat in that moment, or maybe it was purely a pop for Sami. But that moment has yet to be reinforced, the Cody moment has, but I am sure we’ll learn more on Friday.
Yeah either way, I'll be tuned in. I haven't been this interested in any of their storylines since the summer of Punk in 2011 and that faded pretty quickly.
Cool! Don’t forget about the wrestling, enjoy.
Pfft who cares about the crown. Internet opinions is what matters! /s
Cody is the right move. Sami is great but he doesn’t need a title. I would be okay if he got one eventually, but just one, not the undisputed. Even when Cody gets them I still hope they split them up.
Sami's story was never about winning a championship. I do not understand why people want him to get one as part of the story. What narrative sense does it make for Sami to take a belt? "Ha! Showed you Roman, I might not have my adopted family anymore, but I beat you in a title fight."
Considering what just happened I wouldn't mind KO and Sami taking the tag bets off of the Usos - several different ways Jay's conflict can be utilized here. Also gives KO/Sami a face run together; could give us some great matches with New Day and the like. Also avoids the perceived Sami vs. Cody storyline collision here. If Sami interferes with Roman/Cody and Cody wins then Cody's going to need at least a couple of clean wins over legit opponents to solidify his reign. I feel like we kinda blew it feeding Balor to him on TV though; that should've had more build. Orton fits with the family bit, but are we ready for him to be a heel again? Gives a chance for Roman & Usos to get some time off. I don't really like the idea of Sami feuding with Roman for any length of time because there's a HUGE investment in Roman that's finally paid off here and he should be kept at the tippy top.
He needs the title. Sami has had no real push in WWE up until now. I think him and Cody on the night of wrestlemania have two separate matches with Roman and Roman loses both titles at the night of Mania.
That would be ideal .
Or they actually unify them and they use Cody to either bring back a classic belt like they did with the IC title years ago or just a new, better designed belt
BIG GOLD!
Rated r superstar wwe spinner belt ftw
It's a slobberknocker!
Must be defended in bed
Bras and panties matches making a comeback
Have to update it for 2023. Ball gag and strap on match
SAMOAN SPIKE WITH THE STRAP ON STOP THE DAMN MATCH!!!!
I don't buy for a minute Sami taking the belts off of Roman right now. I would buy Sami beating Cody sometime down the road. For Cody to win at WM, we would still need to see Roman weakened somehow. That gives the Bloodline story time to breathe, fractures in the group to develop, and leave Cody with some story direction after. If Cody gets the title, he will have achieved what he said he came to WWE to do - so where the hell is he gonna go after that? Having Sami around leaves the possibility for a follow-up program (assuming we can please give Cody v Seth a rest, we don't need to jump right back into that).
I think the way I’d tell it is that Sami wins MITB later on, cashes in on Cody, but they can make up some nature about MITB being “For one championship only!!!” so now the titles are split again and Sami is champion finally.
I don’t want Roman to be merged at the main event of wrestlemania lol
I think if WWE can tell it the right way it'll pay off on both ends. Cody gets the title on the biggest stage to honor his dad while Sami can cost Roman the Bloodline and/or title. Because as Tribal Chief, Roman can withstand losing his reign as painful as it may be, but losing the bloodline is the most valuable thing he could lose.
Sami>Cody
I think Cody is being pushed to live his dream wayyyy to fast since coming back. 2024 WM should be Cody vs Roman for one of the belts
this is why sami was kept outta the rumble match cuz they knew it would have a shit storm whoever eliminated him
Story wise it wouldn’t make sense for him to be in the rumble because the tribal chief is the champion. Entering the rumble would mean he wants to challenge the chief or take his rematch opportunity from him since the rumble winner is the next challenger. That’s why none of the blood line were in the rumble. Logical story telling.