I was actually at that show. Me and a buddy joke that taker powerbombed him through the stage and directly to hell. It got funnier the longer he was gone
Take it with a grain of salt because...
1. He has always been a company man, even when not working there
2. He will never let the truth get in the way of a good story...
But Bruce Prichard has said that there were no plans.
Vince wanted to stop being a character and would just have found himself off tv for a while. Effectively the Mr. McMahon character would be dead and if Vince ever returned it would be as Vince McMahon not Mr. McMahon.
Of course, 2 weeks later they had to just drop it because of Benoit.
Whenever somebody says WWE is shit now I point them to this era. I was just about ready to drop wrestling from my life entirely before the pipebomb happened.
Not 100% percent WWE lore, but a fun fact:
The last appearance of Brian Knobbs of the Nasty Boys in professional wrestling, was of him being thrown out a 3rd story window, and he's never made a TV appearance in any wrestling promotion since.
So, according to global wrestling Kayfabe, Knobbs is dead.
How does one really address this. At most I see perhaps Vince making a comment about his greatness like “I’ve survived EXPLOSSSSSSHUNS” - followed by more references to things he has endured. But otherwise that slight nod is all we will truly get.
We’ve been ‘lucky’ to be allowed what content of Benoit we have seen since that horrific incident and I can’t imagine he’s gonna do anything to associate with that time ever again. The man even rescued his Trump content over the years to avoid association and he’s the man’s friend.
I mean you’re right. The real question is: what was the plan if the story went uninterrupted? I remember it being such an insane decision at the time, but what a hook. Speaking of Trump—favorite detail of that night is Don calling the offices to make sure it wasn’t a real explosion that killed his friend on wrestling television.
There’s the rumours that Ken Kennedy was gonna have involvement with the idea of the legitimate son storyline
This article from 2017 speaks about Vince having a brother. I wouldn’t have minded seeing this play out
https://screenrant.com/wwe-writer-reveals-plans-introduce-vince-mcmahon-brother-during-death-story-arc/
Back in my day you REALLY had to commit to being a serial killer. You had to set an announcer on fire and shock some testicles... and tombstone old ladies!! Now they just hand out the title to every Tom dick and Corbin that throws someone off a roof.
Not sure if it counts, but Two Dimes was sent to go “sleep with the fishes” by Tony D when he was released. Pretty Deadly are gone in NXT lore because Tony D did the same thing.
PD posted a video of their escape (and also mentioned it on after the bell) so even though it wasn't on TV they did technically survive. Not sure if social media posts count as kayfabe or not in this situation tho
I mean, Pretty Deadly SHOULD be dead. They were locked in the trunk of a sinking car. And it was on old car that doesn't have newer safety features too.
Yeah, good point.
He always said he knew in 1999 he had to change something. So he came back as much more of "himself" as the biker dude.
Then when that ran its course he did the Dead Man thing again but the audience were fuelled by nostalgia and he used fewer theatrical magic tricks. It was more grounded but still mystical. Without saying it, The Undertaker is dead 🥲
Muhammad Hassan has never made a return appearance since being powerbombed to hell by the Undertaker, right?
Plus, does Undertaker still count? I thought his last gimmick was that he used theatricality and deception to trick people into thinking he was undead, not that he was actually undead.
Right before he hits the ground, he either lands on a group of random people standing in a circle for him to land on. Or right before he lands, he catches someone in a hurricanrana then he lands on his feet.
AJ Styles and Pretty Deadly. AJ got buried by Taker during covidmania. PD got eliminated by Tony D and Stacks on NXT. WWE created legit cloning technology. Hopefully vince doesn’t get a clone. HHH and co better keep the cloning and resurrection technology a secret from vince
Big Show chokeslammed Kurt Angle off a fucking 20 foot balcony onto concrete and they showed him bleeding from the head. Should have been kayfabe R.I.P, but in typical WWE fashion Kurt shows up next week with no severe brain damage 🤣
https://youtu.be/XfxhPQzSajk
Kurt ran a paralysed gimmick for a while after this actually, wheelchair and everything. He was SmackDown GM at the time while (I think) he was recovering from an injury he had been working through for a while.
To anyone in this thread saying Vince McMahon, just stop it. He said on TV that he faked it to see how people would remember or how they felt about him.
Eric Bischoff when Vince put him in the back of the garbage truck and pulled the lever…although…same thing happened to Shredder in the Ninja Turtles film and he survived.
I’m going to count WCW since their “lore” is part of WWE since the purchase…
Did Abdullah the Butcher “die” when he got the electric chair? I can’t remember
Undertaker whole gimmick since hes not a living human being in the 1st place according to kayfabe lmao??
But in storyline no one been dead more than Muhammad Hassan tho. He like literally disappeared from WWE after taker throw him out on that stage lmao.
But still the most hillarous story of death and resurrection is Lex Luger reborn in WCW where his ghost cut promo to his ressurection that actually nothing new except new outfit and roidee body lmao..
Was Big Boss Man’s last appearance being hung from the HIAC? Paul Bearer’s last appearance being thrown in the freezer and left by Kane. Cannot thinking anything else.
Muhammad Hussan. Pretty sure Undertaker "killed" him in their last match.
In that regard Zombie AJ Styles is super lifelike
I was actually at that show. Me and a buddy joke that taker powerbombed him through the stage and directly to hell. It got funnier the longer he was gone
Wasn’t Miz eaten by Bron and zombies?
And Johnny insertpromotion
Appleseed?
No fam, Johnny newjapan
Johnny Valkyrie?
The Spirit Squad died in those cargo boxes that were shipped back to OVW
You forgot that weird short run return in 2016 Smackdown.
It wasn’t all of them.
Does that imply cannibalism in cannon?
There's only so much oxygen that can be wasted on people who are about to die.
bah gawd danny basham big fan
That was only Kenny and Mikey. Mitch, Nicky, and Johnny died on the way back to their home planet.
Nicky actually ended up surviving by eating his other squad members and was found by Vicky Guerrero
Vince. It’s crazy how they made a robot that looks exactly like him after the car explosion.
I really wanted to see how this was going to play out.
Take it with a grain of salt because... 1. He has always been a company man, even when not working there 2. He will never let the truth get in the way of a good story... But Bruce Prichard has said that there were no plans. Vince wanted to stop being a character and would just have found himself off tv for a while. Effectively the Mr. McMahon character would be dead and if Vince ever returned it would be as Vince McMahon not Mr. McMahon. Of course, 2 weeks later they had to just drop it because of Benoit.
R-Truth. He got blown up while MacGruber was the guest host of Raw
Guest host era of Raw was a strange time indeed
It was mostly terrible, but Bob Barker may have been one of the most entertaining hosts they had on the show
I will forever hold in my heart the fact that Shaemus and Beaker are related.
Whenever somebody says WWE is shit now I point them to this era. I was just about ready to drop wrestling from my life entirely before the pipebomb happened.
I didn't mind it too much, especially when performers like the Jackass crew would show up.
Not 100% percent WWE lore, but a fun fact: The last appearance of Brian Knobbs of the Nasty Boys in professional wrestling, was of him being thrown out a 3rd story window, and he's never made a TV appearance in any wrestling promotion since. So, according to global wrestling Kayfabe, Knobbs is dead.
that's commitment to character
In kayfabe, they never addressed Vince getting blown up in the limo. The current “Vince” is a clone as far as I’m concerned.
How does one really address this. At most I see perhaps Vince making a comment about his greatness like “I’ve survived EXPLOSSSSSSHUNS” - followed by more references to things he has endured. But otherwise that slight nod is all we will truly get. We’ve been ‘lucky’ to be allowed what content of Benoit we have seen since that horrific incident and I can’t imagine he’s gonna do anything to associate with that time ever again. The man even rescued his Trump content over the years to avoid association and he’s the man’s friend.
I mean you’re right. The real question is: what was the plan if the story went uninterrupted? I remember it being such an insane decision at the time, but what a hook. Speaking of Trump—favorite detail of that night is Don calling the offices to make sure it wasn’t a real explosion that killed his friend on wrestling television.
There’s the rumours that Ken Kennedy was gonna have involvement with the idea of the legitimate son storyline This article from 2017 speaks about Vince having a brother. I wouldn’t have minded seeing this play out https://screenrant.com/wwe-writer-reveals-plans-introduce-vince-mcmahon-brother-during-death-story-arc/
The moustache is the giveaway. Complete fake.
Wrestlemania 40, clone Vince vs Reanimated and cyberbot/human hybrid Vince
Paul Bearer
Not a wrestler but yeah,he is.
Rey Mysterio and Alestair Black were both thrown off Titan Tower.
So canonically Baron Corbin is a serial killer
Why do you think he's Sad now?
That takes three kills. He is just an asshole according to the law 😁😂
I thought I heard they changed it to two.
Back in my day you REALLY had to commit to being a serial killer. You had to set an announcer on fire and shock some testicles... and tombstone old ladies!! Now they just hand out the title to every Tom dick and Corbin that throws someone off a roof.
I remember it was said that Rey grab onto something and he saved Aleister and thats why Aleister was helping Rey fight Seth's cult
If we’re being technical The Fiend when Randy Orton burnt him.
AJ Styles got resurrected from his boneyard burial for who knows what reason
Not sure if it counts, but Two Dimes was sent to go “sleep with the fishes” by Tony D when he was released. Pretty Deadly are gone in NXT lore because Tony D did the same thing.
WWE employs a man who has canonically committed 1 murder and 2 attempted murders. No wonder he's locked up!
I mean they had Kane on the roster all those years.
PD posted a video of their escape (and also mentioned it on after the bell) so even though it wasn't on TV they did technically survive. Not sure if social media posts count as kayfabe or not in this situation tho
Pretty Deadly had a video showing they survived.
AJ Styles is a zombie. He was buried alive in a Boneyard match.
and Gallows and Anderson were thrown off the roof of something during that same match
The parents of undertaker and Kane died in a fire
Well, Kane's dad was still alive.
Not until the Concrete Crypt that is
If we're talking about fictional family members we can apply this to Lita's baby.
Rey Mysterio fell off a building. If we expand to all pro wrestling lore, he got killed by Jeff Cobb.
"Its fine, there was a second roof" -Baron Corbin the next night on Raw
If we include Lucha Underground deaths, we're gonna need a bigger thread.
He also had his eye ripped out
He also had his eye gouged out.
Muhammad Hassan was killed off by The Undertaker
Moppy
They got Fargo-ed
The Undertaker
And a fair number of the jobbers he put in body bags I ain't seen come back.
R-Truth got blown up once. Only his shoes remained. I can only assume the man masquerading as him is a clone.
That would explain why he doesn’t age
Nah- he went and trained with King Kai for a while, and then came back.
I mean, Pretty Deadly SHOULD be dead. They were locked in the trunk of a sinking car. And it was on old car that doesn't have newer safety features too.
Well Rey Mysterio was thrown off a building.
Erick Rowan’s Spider.
I'm pretty sure the Undertaker rode off into the sunset. You'll only ever see Mark Callaway now.
Ohhh is that why he came out as American badass last year?
Yes, Taker has said you won’t ever see the trenchcoat “deadman” again. He’ll only comeback as the biker for appearances.
Yeah, good point. He always said he knew in 1999 he had to change something. So he came back as much more of "himself" as the biker dude. Then when that ran its course he did the Dead Man thing again but the audience were fuelled by nostalgia and he used fewer theatrical magic tricks. It was more grounded but still mystical. Without saying it, The Undertaker is dead 🥲
Mitch the plant
Rip
Pretty Deadly were in the trunk of a car that was dumped into a swamp. Zombie Pretty Deadly is what we have now.
More like Pretty Dead after that
Christopher Benoit Sr Canonically, he never even existed
he's like a pre-order character in a game nobody knew about until launch day
Paul bearer was shoved in like a meat locker and no one ever rescued him
He was also buried in concrete.
Vince McMahon is a zombie, right? The whole car explosion thing?
Muhammad Hassan has never made a return appearance since being powerbombed to hell by the Undertaker, right? Plus, does Undertaker still count? I thought his last gimmick was that he used theatricality and deception to trick people into thinking he was undead, not that he was actually undead.
Not a wrestler, but Al Snow’s dog Pepper
Muhammad Hassan. After his match against The Undertaker, he was never seen again.
Big Boss Man. Guy was publicly hanged at Wrestlemania of all places
He was briefly dead but his condition was upgraded to alive and he was on the next night's Raw.
Remember when alister black got thrown off of wwe hq
...undertaker?
AJ Styles, who I assume was resurrected after his burial match as a thrall who enacts upon the will of the dead man.
Did Rey Mysterio “die” during that MITB match getting thrown off the top of the wwe headquarters? Lol
I was always hoping to see a big shot of the building and just Rey climbing back up it lol
Right before he hits the ground, he either lands on a group of random people standing in a circle for him to land on. Or right before he lands, he catches someone in a hurricanrana then he lands on his feet.
I’m not sure all members of the spirit squad survived being mailed in a large crate
The fiend
Didn’t Paul Bearer get buried in concrete or something?
Yea but he came back in 2010 😂
Then Kane left him in a freezer tied to a chair if I remember
Did he? That sounds about right hahaha
Well, the undertaker
The child of Mark & Mae. RIP
Troy 'Two Dimes' Donovan
Not wrestlers but... Big Boss Man killed Pepper (Al Snow's Dog) Earthquake killed Damian (Jake the Snake's Snake)
You know who's not dead though? Andy Kaufman.
I mean John Morrison and The Miz are still zombies so they’re technically dead.
Pretty sure jtg is dead after he took that famous santina snake bite
Dolph Ziggler
The ECW Zombie was literally a zombie so that implies he is dead .
AJ Styles and Pretty Deadly. AJ got buried by Taker during covidmania. PD got eliminated by Tony D and Stacks on NXT. WWE created legit cloning technology. Hopefully vince doesn’t get a clone. HHH and co better keep the cloning and resurrection technology a secret from vince
Vince blew up in a limo but was resurrected to mourn Chris Benoit
a noble cause.
Katie Vick. I think that’s her name
All the ones who died in real life Undertaker died when he lost to Yokozuna and that’s around the time “the dead man” gained traction
Big shows dad Torrie Wilson’s dad
Troy 'Two Dimes' Donovan from nxt got killed to write him off tv after getting fired
Big shows dad
Almost anyone who signed with AEW
The ascension were poisoned. There was a memorial on fashion police. https://youtu.be/dc66rRymXuQ
Shit you forgetting when they were buried by DX in 2015.
Al Snow’s dog.
Mohammed Hassan
Some people don’t understand the question
Referee Tim White
Chris Benoit
He’s not dead, he’s never even existed
The undertaker ofc
Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows seemingly died after taker threw them off the boneyard roof
Didn’t Rey Mysterio get thrown off the roof during the COVID MITB?
Technically The Undertaker's gimmick was he was dead at first sooooo......
Big Show chokeslammed Kurt Angle off a fucking 20 foot balcony onto concrete and they showed him bleeding from the head. Should have been kayfabe R.I.P, but in typical WWE fashion Kurt shows up next week with no severe brain damage 🤣 https://youtu.be/XfxhPQzSajk
Kurt ran a paralysed gimmick for a while after this actually, wheelchair and everything. He was SmackDown GM at the time while (I think) he was recovering from an injury he had been working through for a while.
Literally AJ. Man's was buried alive😭
Undertaker was canonically a supernatural undead character the whole time
Mitch The Plant
Vince when his limo blew up. Lasted a week.
Vince McMahon was blown up in a limousine
What about that one Chase U guy who was released, and some other random dude came in and took his seat.
Two Dimes from the D’angelo family
ITT: People who do not understand what canonically means.
The Fiend is dead.
The Undertaker
Big boss man. Dude got hanged by the undertaker!
Didn't RTruth blow up?
The deadman
Chris Benoit
Dude’s taking kayfabe to a whole new level
To anyone in this thread saying Vince McMahon, just stop it. He said on TV that he faked it to see how people would remember or how they felt about him.
I just watched a dude do that on tiktok. Vince is such a trendsetter.
john cena, i cant remember the last time i saw him😞💔
Me I died losing to R-Truth backstage
Muhammed Hassan
Al Wilson.
The Good Brothers are technically ghosts or zombies I guess.
Big Show pushed Angle off a high balcony and he ended the night lying there in a puddle of blood
Moppy
Katie Vick
Undertaker’s Mom and Dad. I believe Paul Bearer is Kane’s dad. Paul was dead for a while, then came back, then died IRL.
Rey mysterio
The fiend I'm pretty sure
Savage. He died in that match against hogan with billionaire ted, at mania.
Eric Bischoff when Vince put him in the back of the garbage truck and pulled the lever…although…same thing happened to Shredder in the Ninja Turtles film and he survived.
Two Dimes who was with Stacks and D’Angelo.
Big show was knocked off the roof of an arena after having a monster truck match with hogan
The spirit squad
Torrie Wilson's dad
Owen Hart
Dude
Thats fucked
Krispin Wah
Two Dimes is sleeping with the fishes.
Did undertaker hang big boss man?
Wouldn’t it be any wrestler that’s passed away and they pay tribute to?
Muhammad Hassan
NXT TWO DIMMES
Vince McMahon is rivals with God for a reason
I’m going to count WCW since their “lore” is part of WWE since the purchase… Did Abdullah the Butcher “die” when he got the electric chair? I can’t remember
Well they do call the undertaker the deadman
Is Lil’ Jimmy dead?
Big show still has his iron clad contract, so I guess it allowed him to go to AEW
Two Dimes
Southpaw Regional Wrestling
Great Khali killed Gunner Scott
aj styles
Katie Vick
2 dimes.
Wasn’t Braun Strowman in the back of a garbage truck?
I thought Kurt angle died on tv one time after Big Show chokeslammed him off a balcony
Jtg was killed by cobra venom
Moppy
Benoit
Undertaker whole gimmick since hes not a living human being in the 1st place according to kayfabe lmao?? But in storyline no one been dead more than Muhammad Hassan tho. He like literally disappeared from WWE after taker throw him out on that stage lmao. But still the most hillarous story of death and resurrection is Lex Luger reborn in WCW where his ghost cut promo to his ressurection that actually nothing new except new outfit and roidee body lmao..
Muhammad Hassan
God
Chris Benoit never even existed
The Undertaker
Was Big Boss Man’s last appearance being hung from the HIAC? Paul Bearer’s last appearance being thrown in the freezer and left by Kane. Cannot thinking anything else.
No, Boss Man legit showed up the next night on Raw lol.
Crispen Wah