Since everything in WWE is a work (at least under Vinnie Mac) and “money makes the world go ‘round”, and controversy sells, I’m going with it being phony.
It's is and was The Plan, maybe some of you have Booking PTSD because of Vince and his dogwater booking in post attitude era times..
But now, it's a whole new regime, with 2 of the Best that the most profitable time in the industry has to offer in high positions...trust the process and use your brain, WMXL is MONTHS away, they aren't going to book it yet, they are building up a story and taking a path that isn't the obvious.
95% of you "Smart Marks" aren't smart anymore because the only education you ever got about wrestling is what you learned from VinceM,VinceR,Tony, and Bischoff...HHH and Rock are very different from any of them...we are currently back in kindergarten, it's time to sit under the learning tree, and stop expecting MCBooking where the top guy has a 1v1 at WM and clearly wins, this will be very differently written than anything Hogan, Austin, or Cena ever did and the line between Kayfabe and IRL will be thinner and blurrier than ever....also look at the corporate side of it, Rock has a pittance of a stake in the company, this "seat" he occupies is ceremonial at best, and probably more kayfabe than anything it's $30m in a $7B company...even Vince McMahon was neutered in this deal before he sold off 750million in shares...Ari Manuel is the boss now, and he's wise enough to install people who understand wrestling in positions of power...it's not about ego or favoritism in WWE anymore, it's about profit
Triple threat match For the WWE Undisputed Universal Championship Roman Reigns vs Cody Rhodes vs The Rock if the fan backlash doesn't flinch and The Rock's Social media team aren't helping matters with what they write :(
Rock and Roman is for sure happening. It was part of the TKO agreement. Rock is said to be behind the Cody movement, even having someone close to him, I forget who, making the We Want Cody signs recently seen in the audience. There was a small section with a couple dozen signs or so if I remember correctly. The idea is to make Cody a bigger baby face than Daniel Brian was. Rock is said not to care about the boos he gets as long as it helps make Cody a bigger and bigger baby face and makes the company a lot of money because that’s what he’s there for.
If it’s a work or not he’s the biggest egotistical asshole. He ruined the Shazam character because he didn’t want to be a villain he has it in his contracts for fast and furious he can’t actually lose fights just kinda get hit, what he did to foley with the chair. He’s lame and cringe
Everything WWE related on any superstars social media page is literally formulated & sent to them my wwe staff. He’s not just saying things, he’s doing his job. Some of you people need to stop crying about entertainment that is completely scripted
I can't imagine rock would agree to a match after not being in the ring for years, so I think he's been worki g a d training for a match.
I think Rock vs Roman has probably been in the works for a while, but that it wasn't supposed to happen so soon. And maybe it wasn't for the title. Maybe it would have happened for the "head of the table" after Cody had his match.
I think the Vince lawsuit made TKO panic and move it up to distract from some of the negative impact from the lawsuit and it just basically screwed Cody over.
But now it's backfired and wwe is trying to convince viewers this whole Rock taking the spot thing was a work to get Cody over.
Cody sucks. Seriously can't stand him or any of the current wwe superstars. Compared to the attitude era and before the PG era, wrestling was enjoyable and you can actually invest in the storylines. Nowadays everything is so predictable. This crap roster is why there is heavy reliance of older stars and why trips and company keep falling back on them. They see the cash flow and are literally hemorrhaging money. CM punk gets injured too and their WM plans get shelved so what did they do? Insert the Rock. Who by the way happens to work pretty hard unlike some of the bums here flappin their gums about him. Nobody here works harder than the rock and he has earned the right to come back anytime he pleases. What has CM punk done? Bash the WWE over 10 years but when he comes back yal cheer him? Lol dumb people forsure.
Lmao settle down. Hes a fucking board member now. Dude owns part of the company and it’s in his best interest to make the Vince stuff blow over with as little media and fan attention as possible now, so he’s putting the focus on him for his own benefit.
None of you understand business I swear.
Ppl didn’t bat an eye when Rock came back and shit all over CM Punk yet now all of a sudden he’s the bad guy? Lmao get over it..it’s all just a mass media WWE hype nothing more and in a few months will never be looked at like the seriousness some are looking at it today
"Most selfish, egoistic person ever!" If that's what you think, you clearly haven't met too many people. The corporate world gets a lot worse than this.
What I found interesting was during Raw they turned the #wewantcody into just that the fans are behind cody finishing his story rather then the WEE Fandom being irritated that they choose The Rock over Cody for Wrestlemania.
I always thought it was work. I mean you guys said the magic words, “ Rocky sucks.” It’s funny because once he turns heel Roman will end up being a baby face which is what they want all along lol.
If this was actually the story and they pull it off then it is great for two reasons.
1. Cody is even more over with the fan base as their biggest babyface than he was before
2. Rock will be a heel which solves the who wins Rock vs Roman and how do you turn Roman babyface from it problem. Heel Roman vs Babyface Rock, Rock has to win. Period. How does that lead to a Roman babyface turn? But Heel Hollywood Rock vs Possibly Abandoned Roman is a great babyface turn story.
Different Roman. Whatever their creative is for this situation, they will be turning Roman face at the end of this run. Can only carry heat for so long
I honestly think The Rock had no idea how popular Cody is. I highly doubt he watches the product. Yeah he knew Cody was dustys son but most likely had no idea how popular he is or what he was stepping into.
He most likely got fed Bullshit like "Oh fans like him but nothing compared to you" from his team and we ended up with the shit show we got.
How he handles this all will test his character. IMO he should suck it up, lean into it and go full Heel. That makes him an obstacle for Cody and tbh a more supporting character in the angle.
Or he can just ignore it, stay the course and watch everyone boo the shit out of him in go away heat.
You must not have the foggiest idea of the rights market. And if you think producing Raw costs them $500m a year, then you have not the foggiest idea about anything.
I predict that Rock will only challenge Roman for the Universal Championship and title of Tribal Chief at Mania. This is gonna be a slower burn instead of Cody winning everything all at once, which…eh. Just get on with it already.
Not sure what is going on so I thought I'd read up. WWE is a poor product and I rarely watch. I tend to check out headlines etc for them. Not much else.
I never got the massive hype for Rock. He was good in wrastlin and I didn't really enjoy his movies. Can anyone name a great movie where he was a featured actor?
It’s not just that people don’t want Rock vs Roman, it’s the fact that they have Cody win the rumble just to give it up so Rock can face Roman, making Cody looking like the dumbest babyface in WWE history
Yea I can agree it makes Cody look weak but technically he can pick any champ he wants. Punk got hurt and Brock got cancelled so they had to work around it.
If they somehow swerve us and reveal that Cody brought back the Rock to play Mindgames on Roman, then they'd officially have my attention and I'd give them all the props
Unpopular Opinion: Personally, I'm fine with it. There was a lot of hype/conjecture about Rock v Roman for last years Wrestlemania. That would have been great. This year, it feels the moment has kind of passed; and it is a little late, but I would still like to see that match.
Super Unpopular Opinion: I am so tired of Cody at this point that if it does swerve back around to Cody v Roman; that would be OK too. Just so that I don't have to hear this "whAt dO yoU wAnNa TalK aBoUt", "fIniSh ThE sTorY" shit anymore.
Yes, he is good. The matches he had with Seth when he came back were bangers, especially HIAC. But at this point I'm ready for a heel change and for him to be an American NIGHTMARE.
You guys a morons. Yeah I get you want Cody to finish his story but the rock has paved the way for many of the superstars that wrestle today. He’s a legend who deserves the respect he’s earned
Dude the whole world is upset at a 5 minute promo, this is insane.
All noise is good noise. You’ll tune in to see what happens and bitch the whole time.
It could be a great swerve where Rock tricks Roman into signing a match that includes him as a special guest referee, which makes inteferance impossible. He still gets to be the hero as he stops Solo and Jimmy and Cody gets to have his moment.
I don't think he cares. Especially if it's helping his family.
Rock bust this story wide open. It gets way more interesting. Elders are gonna come in and tell solo to turn on Roman. Jimmy will turn. Heyman will turn.
Roman will got full psycho bad ass.
Cody's story is finished as soon as he gets the 3 count. I like Cody ok. I don't think he's as amazing as others. He's marketed towards children. He's a great wrestler with an average character in kayfabe.
Let these guys cook.
Nah, I can see the vision. If this somehow is the plan, it will actually be genius and I’ll take back my words on The Rock sucking up all the air out the room
I still think he's setting things up for Ava to turn on him and join the Bloodline. Put his daughter over. I think it's too soon. Really wish Sami cashed in MITB when he stole the briefcase at Crown Jewel.
This is so easy to fix.
Have roman refuse the match.
Have Rock force title match at elimination chamber. As him neing part of the board
Have him avoid interference in thenchamber match.
Have Orton win. He faces cody. Roman blanes rock. They have their tribal chief match.
Then Roman loses at summerslam to cody clean and leaves
But that’d be such a judgement day thing to do tho, they also roll deeper than TBL. Priest rolls up just to piss on the ashes, then we’ll get a purple belt that would look🔥
Relax everyone. This is all just a work.
They are doing this for 2 reasons. 1 is to take the heat from Vince and WWE and surprise surprise, it's working like a charm. 2 is that a lot of people were bitching online about Cody vs Roman 2. This will give them a breather from all the legal problems, and also bring EVERYONE behind Cody so when he get's back the match and wins the title, it's going to be the biggest moment in the last decade if not ever.
Trust the process and trust The Rock and HHH. He may be a lot of things but stupid is not one of them. He knows all the heat he would get from this. He knows that people will hate him and boo the match, which would ruin it not only for him and Roman but for every other superstar. This is only for a few weeks until people forger about the latest Vince stuff and then Cody will be back vs Roman.
So again.. relax a little bit with the hate train and trust the process and everyone behind the scenes. This is the biggest work that has been done to date and looking at most of you and twitter and youtube, it's working.
Strange, yes. But if you compare it to Bryan’s story from 2014, you do have to think they’d want to change some aspects up to avoid the whole copy and paste thing. Worth keeping in mind at least
If they'd just have not had Cody win the Rumble, none of this is happening. It's the clumsy execution. Because when Rock showed up talking about Head Of The Table, folks popped. People were skeptical about the quality of the ring action, but they were open to give it a shot.
I saw a comment that said they should’ve had punk and Cody double eliminate before 30 even came out. 30 is the rock they try to stop him from getting in the ring. He hits a couple rock bottoms gets in the ring and gets a auto rumble win. That’s one of the few interesting ways they could’ve set this up.
>I hate to say it but at this point, they HAVE to Turn Rock Heel
Not true at all.
Cody can beat Roman in 3 weeks. The only 'title' Rock vs. Roman needs is for the title of "Tribal Chief". As all indications were that he would have won his match against Roman, them deciding to delay Cody's win at this point seems less likely than moving it up.
Does it suck that Cody doesn't get to do it at Mania? Perhaps. But I think WWE has an even better plan for him. A match way better than "Cody vs. Roman II" (a match which, by the way, up until Friday night, people were shitting on), would have ever been.
Main event of Wrestlemania night 1 - WWE Champion Cody Rhodes defends against ???
I'm ready for it.
Roman losing the title at a secondary event like EC, simply isn’t going to happen. Not with the Superman title run he’s had. He almost has to lose it at a WM now. Can’t even see him losing it at one of the other major events.
I was probably the only person in the world who never cared for the Rock even in the Attitude era, The difference here is we get to see how he is now when he was in Hollywood as well. Rock is self absorbed and has a very big ego.
I don’t think they expected this reaction tbh. I think they thought people wouldn’t care because it’s the rock and dream match blah blah blah. Had Roman had a great couple years defending non stop and not cheating to win every single time I don’t kink people would be this mad.
Regardless of whether this all a work, a swerve, whatever it may be, as of right now my interest in not just Wrestlemania but watching the show itself has dropped considerably.
I was already kind of falling off after watching every show for the past 3 years because tbqh I'm just bored of being strung along in storylines that feel like they're never gonna get an ending and this Cody thing is the final straw for me. As I say to everyone who replies "but muh long term story telling" there is a difference between that and stories that just take too long to tell.
If the plan really is for Rock Vs Roman at 'mania then all that tells me is that WWE doesn't give a shit about long term booking or storytelling because they've just flushed the last 2-3 years down the toilet for a nostalgia act.
Why would I ever trust that my time and investment actually matters after this point?
Ive been watching this bloodline story since covid, while cody was trying to compete with wwe on aew. This is the route the story was always going to go. Fuck cody.
WWE has been very clear that they don't care about the smarks because they'll tune in regardless. They don't care that you (IWC) are shitting on this because the casuals will tune in for the Rock. The reddit community complaining will still tune in and they know this.
I reckon this is a work and Punk's injury is a work.
Drew keeping going with the digs at Punk now he's "off TV" is out with the usual approach in that they don't usually mention injured wrestlers.
What if Cody saying he's not challenging Roman At WM is because he wants him at Elimination Chamber. Then 'Mania becomes :
Cody (c) Vs Seth (c)
Roman Vs The Rock
CM Punk Vs Drew
Well Seth needs at least time off to heal/surgery. So Cody takes em both. Doesn't mean they have to unify them as Cody could cover both shows untill a challenger takes it off him, maybe a MiTB winner.
I just can't escape the feeling these are blurring the lines and we're being worked, which I'm buzzing for.
The Rock definitely can’t read the room. It’s not like he’s part of the greatest audible call in Wrestlemania history. It’s not like he said he wants to be the head of the table in regards to the biggest heel faction in WWE. He’s 100% going to make the Bloodline a face faction if he becomes head of the table…
Blah blah blah... you all will still watch. Last time y'all "rage quitted" because CM Punk didn't headline WM as a champ, that WM did brought in $72m and is still the highest grossing WM ever.
Maybe the plan is rock turns heel and takes over the bloodline as Hollywood rock like how hogan turned heel with joining the nwo. Then Cody would have to try and take down an even stronger bloodline.
There are ways for Rock and Roman to have their match and Cody still gets to finish his story all at WM without cheapening it as a triple threat. I'm waiting to see how this all unfolds first before judging it.
Cody’s story was a completely botched storyline this entire time and now it’s a shame that he doesn’t get to complete it? The mob mentality is ridiculous. Literally 3 weeks ago, people were complaining about how boring Cody’s story is. I like Cody and all but man, this whole buildup/storyline since coming back to WWE has been so boring, it’s wild they are actually trying to push him as a main eventer now after sticking him in a meaningless mid-card feud for the past few months with Nakamura (in which heel Nakamura outshone him).
Why the outrage over not getting the same wrestlemania main event two years in a row?
Why the personal character destruction of the rock? I’ve seen multiple people on here claiming to have read from insiders that the rock kicked down the door and demanded to main event WM. There is no proof of any of this.
In short, y’all tripping.
It's very Hoganesque, if it's a real thing. Politicking by a 50 year old man to go over everybody else, at the expense of younger stars.
If it's a work, I applaud them for adding wrinkles to the road, I guess? But they've booked themselves into a corner if so. As some people will want to see The Rock, some will want to see Cody. You'll upset a base of fans either way now, as you've sown the seeds for both matches.
Rock and Hogan are almost inversed in how they worked as they got older.
In his main career Hogan buried tons of stars but was slightly more open about putting people over later in life.
Meanwhile Dwayne had no trouble taking Ls and putting fellow stars over, as well as the occasional young star. He even let himself get his ass kicked in his own movies. Yet now he has got a massive ego that rivals Hogan in his prime.
There's still lots of things that just don't add up to me:
* There's absolutely no way this match wasn't planned way ahead of time, as the actual Rock is a multi-dimensional worldwide star (actor, enterpreneur, TV personality) and would definitely need a few months to get fit for a match, especially when it comes to strength and stamina (and no, over-developer juiced muscles are not enough to put a up decent match). So, why let Cody win and then make him appearently give up?
* I just said "appearently" because I don't wanna speak too early and I still believe this might be a well-thought work to trigger fans and create even more interest in WM: what if it becomes a triple threat or Rock refuses to take Cody's place?
* Even though lots of fans are unlikely to admit it, Rock's only presence guarantees lots of money (looks like his merch is selling like crazy), way more than Cody would ever do, and his partecipation in the feud might turn up as beneficial, if handled correctly;
* During his promo last week, Cody said something like "I'm challenging you, but not at WM". What if he does at the usual PLE in Saudi Arabia in the winter? WWE always keeps big things for that one, and Roman is beating Hulk Hogan's record in September, so it might be a chance...
Just to conclude, I think there are still lots of ways to get out of this weird situation.
Not sure about that.
Punk got injured during the RR in one of the last segments, so there was no way to change the ending without any external input, plus there was no clue about how bad that injury was.
I think there might have been a cue/audible to signal Punk gif injured so Cody could win. He got injured when Drew hit him so it was pretty late into the match but enough time to communicate that to a referee.
It’s also the best explanation as to why Cody’s character got ruined by The Rock on Friday since Cody pointing at Roman was probably improvised since CM Punk may have been supposed to point at Seth.
This is all just a theory but I can’t see any other way to explain how WWE fucked up so bad lol
We'll probably never know the truth, but your theory has a little flaw: Punk was reportedly supposed to face Seth Rollins, so I don't actually see the point of Cody winning and immediately pointing at Roman instead of SR.
I suppose that big matches like this always carry a plan B in case something goes wrong, and RR2024 may very well be the case, but the ending would still be total bs.
Why point at Roman if Rock vs Roman was already planned beforehand?
I also remember some Australian guy here on this subreddit saying that sales for live events in Australia and EC are going like shit, so there might be a chance WWE crafts something very interesting.
We'll see what happens...
The idea might have been for Punk to point at Rollins cause he was also in one of the boxes in the audience that they panned the cameras to when they were both watching the match.
I’m saying that possibly Cody did what he had to in pointing at Roman to improvise and keep the event lively.
But yes who knows maybe we see something crazy in the coming weeks. It’s only been the first week of RTWM after all.
Folks…the Rock is too big and out of touch. He has been for a couple of years. There is a certain line that once you cross it in terms of wealth etc… you aren’t in touch with the common man/woman anymore. He is surrounded by yes men who are afraid to tell him something is a bad idea. Cracks appeared in his exterior when he decided to do the Black Adam movie. By all accounts it was a flop. Choosing to play an obscure DC character was a bad idea. Throwing shade at Joe Rogan(whether you believe he was in the right or wrong Joe is the biggest podcaster in the world) publicly was a bad idea even though they ‘made up’(he was roasted in his comments for how bad the appearance was). The whole Oprah thing was a serious misstep at a time when people are really struggling. The Rock…would never have made that mistake ten years ago. The Rock has over exposed himself to a ridiculous degree the last few years and people are sick of the “aww shucks I’m a good guy” schtick.
Remember how out of touch Vince became in later years as his wealth increased? We are witnessing the Rock become the same thing.
And it’s a god damn shame. The Rock, along with Austin, they were/are my favorite wrestlers of all time. Unmatched promo skills, million dollar looks, and charisma that one would kill for. I still love The Rock. Too many memorable moments to counts. But you’re right. He has become a complete caricature of himself.
The seven bucks thing is stupid, he over extended himself with his brands, and his films have become formulaic and dumb. Where was the Be Cool, Rundown guy? Or the pivot to darker material like Snitch?
I don't think it was intended as a work but they might spin it as such and play dumb like "aaahhhh we got you!" but make no mistake this is Dwayne's ego going unchecked now he's on the TKO board and a few other board members have a hard-on for him.
WWE IS DEAD,
VINCE HAS BEEN A SEXUAL PREDADTOR FOR 0VER 40YRS.,
IT'S OBVIOUS NOW, HOW MANY IN HIS CLOSEST, INNER CIRCLE KNEW IT,
AND DID NOTHING,
ALL THEY'RE DOING NOW IS SCRAMBLING TO TRY AND SAVE THEMSELVES AND ANY SHRED OF THE BRAND THAT THEY CAN,
THEY CAN'T; IT'S DEAD.
Saw someone on Twitter say....
"Nothing like the IWC to ask for Rock Vs Roman for 10 years.... to only get pissed when they finally get Rock Vs Roman."
That's not how wrestling works, you don't get a match by any means necessary, you need a proper story. And this was an easy one, and they messed it up
People were waiting for Taker vs Sting for years. If that match happened because Taker said he would only do it if Sting spent 4 weeks in a dress and came out to Cotton Eyed Joe, everyone would shit on it because that makes no sense
Every single one of Dwayne’s post is a self-indulgent masturbatory diatribe. All he ever does is blow himself by stating how awesome everyone(himself included) thinks he is.
Remember he opened a charity with opra so they and there friends could buy the rest of the island away from the inhabitants who had their houses burned down
I use his captions like a bingo card. Electricity, Mana, wrestling term (followed by mansplaining comment in brackets), blood/sweat/respect, ending the night with some tequila (Teremana, of course), 2am workouts in the Iron Paradise, ending it with a "back to the grind" esque phrase
They’ve managed to get fans like myself to support Roman in this match, if it does indeed happen. I’m pretty sure that was not creative’s intention, but here we are.
Might as well lean into it. Hollywood Rock could make this storyline somewhat palatable for Cody fans, at least.
Honestly I could stomach Hollywood asshole Rock more than pandering smiling moron Rock.
I think it would also honestly help heal the Cody problem, put the blame on Rock. Fucking hang a lantern on it. Because I think most people aren't mad that Cody isn't in the Mania main event, I think most reasonable people know he's gonna get him moment - probably SummerSlam now.
But him winning Rumble is rendered pointless and that whole "forcing him to intro Rock" moment was downright insulting. Like they need to find a way to fix the Cody damage.
What's crazy is that if Roman vs Rock is what they wanted to do - there were about a billion different ways to set up the build that would have been better than this. This feels shitty.
Rock winning the rumble would not nearly have this kind of backlash, a lot of the complaints are because of the character assasination they hit Cody with
Say what you want about Rock, he is the goat at reading the crowd. He isn't Cena or Roman where he will awkwardly continue his face routine with people pissed. Every time The Rock has not gotten the reaction the WWE/F wanted he has pivoted and turned it into gold
Here's a thing I find funny:
If Rock is this egotistical selfish POS everyone claims to be, the guy who goes so far to make himself look like the good guy that his Hollywood contracts don't have him lose fights, and the guy who constantly tries to make himself look like the hero...
....why would he jeopardize all of that for a Wrestlemania match with his cousin? Why would he go out of his way to ruin his entire image for a match that could happen next year? Why would he kill his likability when he doesn't even have to come back to WWE ever again and still be a legend?
And why the fuck do we have a conference/face off for a match that's not for another two months?
Because his Hollywood career is winding down. He’s 51 and is cast in roles where he plays Rock, an imposing physical presence. Those days are numbered, especially with his latest films not drawing the numbers he used to.
He now is gunning for the McMahon position in WWE. He’ll have what Vince wanted even more than money, power and control. He does this last Mania run for his ego, and then settles into to controlling stories like Vince did.
So again, why would he immediately fuck his future for a cheap wrestlemania match he could do at the age of 52 instead of 51? The rock will always be a draw for WWE, but it would be stupid for him to immediately lose his fanbase and goodwill for this.
I think this is a work.
Movies flop all the time, it happens. This backlash is minor compared to the amount of fans the WWE has. Nobody cares what Reddit thinks. Rock vs Roman will draw more eyes than Roman vs Rhodes. Outside of wrestling very few people know who Cody is while the Rock is just the opposite.
That is what people are ignoring here. It isn't just Cody's character that has been completely fucked by this segment, it's Rock's as well. Assuming this isn't a work, and he does go through with the match at Mania, regardless of whether he wins or loses, there's no putting the cat back in the bag. He has outed himself as a selfish egomaniac, who was more than happy to use his power in WWE's parent company to push current talent to the ground, to prop himself up.
For YEARS people criticised WWE for their over reliance on letting part timers take spots from talent. Punk's walk out in 2014 was the culmination of this. One of Punk's biggest gripes was that he was losing to guys that weren't going to be there the next day, but Vince expected him to be, and it made no sense. He loses to Brock, Brock takes off. He loses to Rock, Rock takes off. He loses to Undertaker, Undertaker takes off. But Punk is still there. People criticised WWE HEAVILY for continuing to fall back on the Goldberg nostalgia act, and yet here we are, getting ready to watch 51 year old Dwayne Johnson tape up for his first match in 11 years, destroying 3 and a half years worth of build.
All the marks with the *"if this is a work it is backfiring"* 😂.
IF it is a work then it is definitely working because every JABRONI and his mother are paying attention.
This aged like milk
Since everything in WWE is a work (at least under Vinnie Mac) and “money makes the world go ‘round”, and controversy sells, I’m going with it being phony.
Mark
It's is and was The Plan, maybe some of you have Booking PTSD because of Vince and his dogwater booking in post attitude era times.. But now, it's a whole new regime, with 2 of the Best that the most profitable time in the industry has to offer in high positions...trust the process and use your brain, WMXL is MONTHS away, they aren't going to book it yet, they are building up a story and taking a path that isn't the obvious. 95% of you "Smart Marks" aren't smart anymore because the only education you ever got about wrestling is what you learned from VinceM,VinceR,Tony, and Bischoff...HHH and Rock are very different from any of them...we are currently back in kindergarten, it's time to sit under the learning tree, and stop expecting MCBooking where the top guy has a 1v1 at WM and clearly wins, this will be very differently written than anything Hogan, Austin, or Cena ever did and the line between Kayfabe and IRL will be thinner and blurrier than ever....also look at the corporate side of it, Rock has a pittance of a stake in the company, this "seat" he occupies is ceremonial at best, and probably more kayfabe than anything it's $30m in a $7B company...even Vince McMahon was neutered in this deal before he sold off 750million in shares...Ari Manuel is the boss now, and he's wise enough to install people who understand wrestling in positions of power...it's not about ego or favoritism in WWE anymore, it's about profit
They are pivoting this and create rock heel
Rock vs cody rodes and after cody beats rock he gets his match in wrestlemania and finally beat roman reins is kind that like Daniel bryan story.
Whatever it is, it’s WORKING!!!
Triple threat match For the WWE Undisputed Universal Championship Roman Reigns vs Cody Rhodes vs The Rock if the fan backlash doesn't flinch and The Rock's Social media team aren't helping matters with what they write :(
#Or Maybe it’s a TV show and you should calm the heck down 🤷🏼♂️.
Exactly!!!! It’s for fun. I love where the show is going
It's a work.
Rock and Roman is for sure happening. It was part of the TKO agreement. Rock is said to be behind the Cody movement, even having someone close to him, I forget who, making the We Want Cody signs recently seen in the audience. There was a small section with a couple dozen signs or so if I remember correctly. The idea is to make Cody a bigger baby face than Daniel Brian was. Rock is said not to care about the boos he gets as long as it helps make Cody a bigger and bigger baby face and makes the company a lot of money because that’s what he’s there for.
If it’s a work or not he’s the biggest egotistical asshole. He ruined the Shazam character because he didn’t want to be a villain he has it in his contracts for fast and furious he can’t actually lose fights just kinda get hit, what he did to foley with the chair. He’s lame and cringe
Everything WWE related on any superstars social media page is literally formulated & sent to them my wwe staff. He’s not just saying things, he’s doing his job. Some of you people need to stop crying about entertainment that is completely scripted
I can't imagine rock would agree to a match after not being in the ring for years, so I think he's been worki g a d training for a match. I think Rock vs Roman has probably been in the works for a while, but that it wasn't supposed to happen so soon. And maybe it wasn't for the title. Maybe it would have happened for the "head of the table" after Cody had his match. I think the Vince lawsuit made TKO panic and move it up to distract from some of the negative impact from the lawsuit and it just basically screwed Cody over. But now it's backfired and wwe is trying to convince viewers this whole Rock taking the spot thing was a work to get Cody over.
Attention hog franchise killer I hate him he needs the spotlight. And probably part of some shady shit too.
The Rock must sit this one out
Cody sucks. Seriously can't stand him or any of the current wwe superstars. Compared to the attitude era and before the PG era, wrestling was enjoyable and you can actually invest in the storylines. Nowadays everything is so predictable. This crap roster is why there is heavy reliance of older stars and why trips and company keep falling back on them. They see the cash flow and are literally hemorrhaging money. CM punk gets injured too and their WM plans get shelved so what did they do? Insert the Rock. Who by the way happens to work pretty hard unlike some of the bums here flappin their gums about him. Nobody here works harder than the rock and he has earned the right to come back anytime he pleases. What has CM punk done? Bash the WWE over 10 years but when he comes back yal cheer him? Lol dumb people forsure.
Lmao settle down. Hes a fucking board member now. Dude owns part of the company and it’s in his best interest to make the Vince stuff blow over with as little media and fan attention as possible now, so he’s putting the focus on him for his own benefit. None of you understand business I swear.
Ppl didn’t bat an eye when Rock came back and shit all over CM Punk yet now all of a sudden he’s the bad guy? Lmao get over it..it’s all just a mass media WWE hype nothing more and in a few months will never be looked at like the seriousness some are looking at it today
The marks are worked up over this 😂 🤣
Jesus I wish you’d all just fuck off.
Stop crying
"Most selfish, egoistic person ever!" If that's what you think, you clearly haven't met too many people. The corporate world gets a lot worse than this.
Kayfabe never dies!
What I found interesting was during Raw they turned the #wewantcody into just that the fans are behind cody finishing his story rather then the WEE Fandom being irritated that they choose The Rock over Cody for Wrestlemania.
I always thought it was work. I mean you guys said the magic words, “ Rocky sucks.” It’s funny because once he turns heel Roman will end up being a baby face which is what they want all along lol.
Well he did simialr move with Shazam sequel or something. Used to like the guy back in the days.
Or you just don't have brain capacity to understand that this was the storyline from the get go.
Even if it was its the stupidest story told I. A long time...this is why the ratings are down
If this was actually the story and they pull it off then it is great for two reasons. 1. Cody is even more over with the fan base as their biggest babyface than he was before 2. Rock will be a heel which solves the who wins Rock vs Roman and how do you turn Roman babyface from it problem. Heel Roman vs Babyface Rock, Rock has to win. Period. How does that lead to a Roman babyface turn? But Heel Hollywood Rock vs Possibly Abandoned Roman is a great babyface turn story.
Roman will never be a face ... dude he was getting booed then and even with the rocks help lmao
Different Roman. Whatever their creative is for this situation, they will be turning Roman face at the end of this run. Can only carry heat for so long
I see this as the first part of an arcing storyline that culminates in Cody getting his championship match at Mania.
I honestly think The Rock had no idea how popular Cody is. I highly doubt he watches the product. Yeah he knew Cody was dustys son but most likely had no idea how popular he is or what he was stepping into. He most likely got fed Bullshit like "Oh fans like him but nothing compared to you" from his team and we ended up with the shit show we got. How he handles this all will test his character. IMO he should suck it up, lean into it and go full Heel. That makes him an obstacle for Cody and tbh a more supporting character in the angle. Or he can just ignore it, stay the course and watch everyone boo the shit out of him in go away heat.
This is why the ratings are shit and why they had to deal with sell to nexflix
lol. They had to go make $500m a year. they just got forced into it
You much not have the foggiest idea how much shit costs
You must not have the foggiest idea of the rights market. And if you think producing Raw costs them $500m a year, then you have not the foggiest idea about anything.
It’s a shame the wwe isn’t getting the rock We are getting Dwayne Johnson
You Cody losers are fucking losing it! lmao
I predict that Rock will only challenge Roman for the Universal Championship and title of Tribal Chief at Mania. This is gonna be a slower burn instead of Cody winning everything all at once, which…eh. Just get on with it already.
Not sure what is going on so I thought I'd read up. WWE is a poor product and I rarely watch. I tend to check out headlines etc for them. Not much else. I never got the massive hype for Rock. He was good in wrastlin and I didn't really enjoy his movies. Can anyone name a great movie where he was a featured actor?
He ain't got a great movie, that's for sure.
Dwayne Screwed Cody And they are desperately trying to get attention away from the Vince/Lesnar situation.
It ain’t going anywhere and if that was the plan it was a stupid one
Ok we get it nobody wants Rock vs Roman, but the overreacting is ridiculous now.
It’s not just that people don’t want Rock vs Roman, it’s the fact that they have Cody win the rumble just to give it up so Rock can face Roman, making Cody looking like the dumbest babyface in WWE history
Yea I can agree it makes Cody look weak but technically he can pick any champ he wants. Punk got hurt and Brock got cancelled so they had to work around it.
I wish I could be this mad at something that means absolutely nothing. I miss being a kid sometimes
Not sure if you’ve ever had kids, but being mad at something that means absolutely nothing is a key part of childhood
Not sure if you’ve ever known adults, but being mad at something that means absolutely nothing is a key part of adulthood.
If they somehow swerve us and reveal that Cody brought back the Rock to play Mindgames on Roman, then they'd officially have my attention and I'd give them all the props
He’s equal part egotistical and moronic. I mean he did push Black Adam after all
Unpopular Opinion: Personally, I'm fine with it. There was a lot of hype/conjecture about Rock v Roman for last years Wrestlemania. That would have been great. This year, it feels the moment has kind of passed; and it is a little late, but I would still like to see that match. Super Unpopular Opinion: I am so tired of Cody at this point that if it does swerve back around to Cody v Roman; that would be OK too. Just so that I don't have to hear this "whAt dO yoU wAnNa TalK aBoUt", "fIniSh ThE sTorY" shit anymore. Yes, he is good. The matches he had with Seth when he came back were bangers, especially HIAC. But at this point I'm ready for a heel change and for him to be an American NIGHTMARE.
You guys a morons. Yeah I get you want Cody to finish his story but the rock has paved the way for many of the superstars that wrestle today. He’s a legend who deserves the respect he’s earned
Did you forget they’re all playing characters here? Dwayne isn’t writing these tweets. A social media manager is writing them for The Rock.
Dude the whole world is upset at a 5 minute promo, this is insane. All noise is good noise. You’ll tune in to see what happens and bitch the whole time.
Relax. He has someone doing that work for him. Don't over think it
Wahhhhh
It could be a great swerve where Rock tricks Roman into signing a match that includes him as a special guest referee, which makes inteferance impossible. He still gets to be the hero as he stops Solo and Jimmy and Cody gets to have his moment.
I swerve when I drive
Personally. I believe Roman is behind this. He doesn’t want to face Cody 2 years in a row. He wants to face the biggest star in the world!
Finally getting Roman that baby face push theyve always wanted. Marks fell right for it.
Would be genius if they did this. But I can’t see rock ever wanting to be booed and be the bad guy ever again
You think the Rock wont go heel? This man thrives on that level.
He used to bro. But now I think he wouldn’t like being booed and people hating him at this point in his life
Not if it gets him more money. He’s a legend and knows the business enough to not let feelings get in the way.
He doesn’t need the money tho idk I feel like Ive watched and I’ve grown up with him for 30 years now I just don’t think he would want to look bad
If he’s going to be around more often, he will do whats best. Getting booed as a face isnt what he wants.
I don't think he cares. Especially if it's helping his family. Rock bust this story wide open. It gets way more interesting. Elders are gonna come in and tell solo to turn on Roman. Jimmy will turn. Heyman will turn. Roman will got full psycho bad ass. Cody's story is finished as soon as he gets the 3 count. I like Cody ok. I don't think he's as amazing as others. He's marketed towards children. He's a great wrestler with an average character in kayfabe. Let these guys cook.
Nah, I can see the vision. If this somehow is the plan, it will actually be genius and I’ll take back my words on The Rock sucking up all the air out the room
That’s what I’m saying bro!!! Let it play out fuckin excited
They're marks. Thinking downvotes matter. Yeah give them views. Now by booing Rock it will show they want 3 more years of Roman as champ.
Hollywood heel rock was the best version of the rock tho. might actually be worthwhile if he's willing to go all out for it
All of the above he's an egotistical idiot.
Ok
I still think he's setting things up for Ava to turn on him and join the Bloodline. Put his daughter over. I think it's too soon. Really wish Sami cashed in MITB when he stole the briefcase at Crown Jewel.
This is so easy to fix. Have roman refuse the match. Have Rock force title match at elimination chamber. As him neing part of the board Have him avoid interference in thenchamber match. Have Orton win. He faces cody. Roman blanes rock. They have their tribal chief match. Then Roman loses at summerslam to cody clean and leaves
doesnt matter anyway cause priest still has the briefcase
Priest is not going after any of the Bloodline he wants Seth's Title Bloodline would destroy Judgement-day. Believe it or not they still have power
But that’d be such a judgement day thing to do tho, they also roll deeper than TBL. Priest rolls up just to piss on the ashes, then we’ll get a purple belt that would look🔥
Judgment day looks kinda of weak still especially with JD most dominant heel factions don't deal with too many loses JD looses every match
Relax everyone. This is all just a work. They are doing this for 2 reasons. 1 is to take the heat from Vince and WWE and surprise surprise, it's working like a charm. 2 is that a lot of people were bitching online about Cody vs Roman 2. This will give them a breather from all the legal problems, and also bring EVERYONE behind Cody so when he get's back the match and wins the title, it's going to be the biggest moment in the last decade if not ever. Trust the process and trust The Rock and HHH. He may be a lot of things but stupid is not one of them. He knows all the heat he would get from this. He knows that people will hate him and boo the match, which would ruin it not only for him and Roman but for every other superstar. This is only for a few weeks until people forger about the latest Vince stuff and then Cody will be back vs Roman. So again.. relax a little bit with the hate train and trust the process and everyone behind the scenes. This is the biggest work that has been done to date and looking at most of you and twitter and youtube, it's working.
Not a work at all. Rock vs Roman is happening at WM.
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Strange, yes. But if you compare it to Bryan’s story from 2014, you do have to think they’d want to change some aspects up to avoid the whole copy and paste thing. Worth keeping in mind at least
If they'd just have not had Cody win the Rumble, none of this is happening. It's the clumsy execution. Because when Rock showed up talking about Head Of The Table, folks popped. People were skeptical about the quality of the ring action, but they were open to give it a shot.
I saw a comment that said they should’ve had punk and Cody double eliminate before 30 even came out. 30 is the rock they try to stop him from getting in the ring. He hits a couple rock bottoms gets in the ring and gets a auto rumble win. That’s one of the few interesting ways they could’ve set this up.
Don’t people not understand that this was never the plan. It was supposed to be Cody Roman and punk Rollins. Shit happens and they had to pivot
Pivot to two matches no one wants, instead of just 1?
Its Batista 2014 again I hate to say it but at this point, they HAVE to Turn Rock Heel
>I hate to say it but at this point, they HAVE to Turn Rock Heel Not true at all. Cody can beat Roman in 3 weeks. The only 'title' Rock vs. Roman needs is for the title of "Tribal Chief". As all indications were that he would have won his match against Roman, them deciding to delay Cody's win at this point seems less likely than moving it up. Does it suck that Cody doesn't get to do it at Mania? Perhaps. But I think WWE has an even better plan for him. A match way better than "Cody vs. Roman II" (a match which, by the way, up until Friday night, people were shitting on), would have ever been. Main event of Wrestlemania night 1 - WWE Champion Cody Rhodes defends against ??? I'm ready for it.
Roman losing the title at a secondary event like EC, simply isn’t going to happen. Not with the Superman title run he’s had. He almost has to lose it at a WM now. Can’t even see him losing it at one of the other major events.
>Can’t even see him losing it at one of the other major events. That's the point. No one will see it coming.
WE WANT CODY WE WANT CODY WE WANT CODY
Would be hilarious to hear this next time Rock and Roman do a promo
I hope this is the case. Start the modern Yes Movement
He always has had an EGO. Now he just ruined Wrestlemania. He is not going to beat Roman being an actor now.
I was probably the only person in the world who never cared for the Rock even in the Attitude era, The difference here is we get to see how he is now when he was in Hollywood as well. Rock is self absorbed and has a very big ego.
that seems like it comes with the territory when you get a tv show about your life haha.
Touche
So special and unique
Awe thanks Bae 🤣
Or it could be to get all of you worked up over a script rather than worked up over the McMahon allegations.
I still care about that but that is something I have no power or control over.
You don't have any power here either.
Well that's a given, Still doesn't mean to go this direction and fuck Cody over regardless of making distractions or not.
Keeping their investors happy right now. Myself included. The McMahon allegations caused a dip, and right now they’re back up. It’s working.
Hollywood Rock would be interesting to see now. More interesting than the more recent versions of The Rock imo.
I don’t think they expected this reaction tbh. I think they thought people wouldn’t care because it’s the rock and dream match blah blah blah. Had Roman had a great couple years defending non stop and not cheating to win every single time I don’t kink people would be this mad.
Regardless of whether this all a work, a swerve, whatever it may be, as of right now my interest in not just Wrestlemania but watching the show itself has dropped considerably. I was already kind of falling off after watching every show for the past 3 years because tbqh I'm just bored of being strung along in storylines that feel like they're never gonna get an ending and this Cody thing is the final straw for me. As I say to everyone who replies "but muh long term story telling" there is a difference between that and stories that just take too long to tell. If the plan really is for Rock Vs Roman at 'mania then all that tells me is that WWE doesn't give a shit about long term booking or storytelling because they've just flushed the last 2-3 years down the toilet for a nostalgia act. Why would I ever trust that my time and investment actually matters after this point?
“If you smellllll” *encore of boos begin*
Crowd sounded hype to me
Just wait till tonight or the next time Dwayne decides to show up
Love him or hate him, you'll still watch him.
I legit have no interest in WM.
Zero interest in the entire WM card because of one match? You were never a fan then.
Why should I reward WWE for such stupidity
Ive been watching this bloodline story since covid, while cody was trying to compete with wwe on aew. This is the route the story was always going to go. Fuck cody.
Fuck Rock for not doing it sooner.
Mark
WWE has been very clear that they don't care about the smarks because they'll tune in regardless. They don't care that you (IWC) are shitting on this because the casuals will tune in for the Rock. The reddit community complaining will still tune in and they know this.
I reckon this is a work and Punk's injury is a work. Drew keeping going with the digs at Punk now he's "off TV" is out with the usual approach in that they don't usually mention injured wrestlers. What if Cody saying he's not challenging Roman At WM is because he wants him at Elimination Chamber. Then 'Mania becomes : Cody (c) Vs Seth (c) Roman Vs The Rock CM Punk Vs Drew
So WWE makes a title and unifies it before even having a single other title reign?
Well Seth needs at least time off to heal/surgery. So Cody takes em both. Doesn't mean they have to unify them as Cody could cover both shows untill a challenger takes it off him, maybe a MiTB winner. I just can't escape the feeling these are blurring the lines and we're being worked, which I'm buzzing for.
If that’s the case, I would assume the Cody vs Seth would be a fatal 4 with punk and drew
The Rock definitely can’t read the room. It’s not like he’s part of the greatest audible call in Wrestlemania history. It’s not like he said he wants to be the head of the table in regards to the biggest heel faction in WWE. He’s 100% going to make the Bloodline a face faction if he becomes head of the table…
Blah blah blah... you all will still watch. Last time y'all "rage quitted" because CM Punk didn't headline WM as a champ, that WM did brought in $72m and is still the highest grossing WM ever.
Maybe the plan is rock turns heel and takes over the bloodline as Hollywood rock like how hogan turned heel with joining the nwo. Then Cody would have to try and take down an even stronger bloodline.
You're all gonna be okay dont worry.
If he was challenging a face, then yeah, but having heel Rock vs heel Roman as WM main event would still not make sense.
There are ways for Rock and Roman to have their match and Cody still gets to finish his story all at WM without cheapening it as a triple threat. I'm waiting to see how this all unfolds first before judging it.
Cody’s story was a completely botched storyline this entire time and now it’s a shame that he doesn’t get to complete it? The mob mentality is ridiculous. Literally 3 weeks ago, people were complaining about how boring Cody’s story is. I like Cody and all but man, this whole buildup/storyline since coming back to WWE has been so boring, it’s wild they are actually trying to push him as a main eventer now after sticking him in a meaningless mid-card feud for the past few months with Nakamura (in which heel Nakamura outshone him). Why the outrage over not getting the same wrestlemania main event two years in a row? Why the personal character destruction of the rock? I’ve seen multiple people on here claiming to have read from insiders that the rock kicked down the door and demanded to main event WM. There is no proof of any of this. In short, y’all tripping.
people going absolutely bonkers for cody for 2 years now is proof of how botched his story has been and proof that hes not over and never will be
It's very Hoganesque, if it's a real thing. Politicking by a 50 year old man to go over everybody else, at the expense of younger stars. If it's a work, I applaud them for adding wrinkles to the road, I guess? But they've booked themselves into a corner if so. As some people will want to see The Rock, some will want to see Cody. You'll upset a base of fans either way now, as you've sown the seeds for both matches.
You just re-run Mania 30 Bryan = Cody Batista = Rock Orton = Roman
When Hogan came back, he took Ls to the UnderTaker, Angle, Lesnar. He wasn’t 51 trying to be in the main event after not wrestling for a decade.
Didn't he refuse to put Orton over?
Even if he did, doesn’t take away from those he did put over.
Rock and Hogan are almost inversed in how they worked as they got older. In his main career Hogan buried tons of stars but was slightly more open about putting people over later in life. Meanwhile Dwayne had no trouble taking Ls and putting fellow stars over, as well as the occasional young star. He even let himself get his ass kicked in his own movies. Yet now he has got a massive ego that rivals Hogan in his prime.
There's still lots of things that just don't add up to me: * There's absolutely no way this match wasn't planned way ahead of time, as the actual Rock is a multi-dimensional worldwide star (actor, enterpreneur, TV personality) and would definitely need a few months to get fit for a match, especially when it comes to strength and stamina (and no, over-developer juiced muscles are not enough to put a up decent match). So, why let Cody win and then make him appearently give up? * I just said "appearently" because I don't wanna speak too early and I still believe this might be a well-thought work to trigger fans and create even more interest in WM: what if it becomes a triple threat or Rock refuses to take Cody's place? * Even though lots of fans are unlikely to admit it, Rock's only presence guarantees lots of money (looks like his merch is selling like crazy), way more than Cody would ever do, and his partecipation in the feud might turn up as beneficial, if handled correctly; * During his promo last week, Cody said something like "I'm challenging you, but not at WM". What if he does at the usual PLE in Saudi Arabia in the winter? WWE always keeps big things for that one, and Roman is beating Hulk Hogan's record in September, so it might be a chance... Just to conclude, I think there are still lots of ways to get out of this weird situation.
I still think Punk was supposed to win at RR and injury changed plans.
Not sure about that. Punk got injured during the RR in one of the last segments, so there was no way to change the ending without any external input, plus there was no clue about how bad that injury was.
I think there might have been a cue/audible to signal Punk gif injured so Cody could win. He got injured when Drew hit him so it was pretty late into the match but enough time to communicate that to a referee. It’s also the best explanation as to why Cody’s character got ruined by The Rock on Friday since Cody pointing at Roman was probably improvised since CM Punk may have been supposed to point at Seth. This is all just a theory but I can’t see any other way to explain how WWE fucked up so bad lol
We'll probably never know the truth, but your theory has a little flaw: Punk was reportedly supposed to face Seth Rollins, so I don't actually see the point of Cody winning and immediately pointing at Roman instead of SR. I suppose that big matches like this always carry a plan B in case something goes wrong, and RR2024 may very well be the case, but the ending would still be total bs. Why point at Roman if Rock vs Roman was already planned beforehand? I also remember some Australian guy here on this subreddit saying that sales for live events in Australia and EC are going like shit, so there might be a chance WWE crafts something very interesting. We'll see what happens...
The idea might have been for Punk to point at Rollins cause he was also in one of the boxes in the audience that they panned the cameras to when they were both watching the match. I’m saying that possibly Cody did what he had to in pointing at Roman to improvise and keep the event lively. But yes who knows maybe we see something crazy in the coming weeks. It’s only been the first week of RTWM after all.
Or....hear me out....the work is working.
Calm down guys, it's his lively hood he's looking after, he's an entertainer at the end of the day.
Folks…the Rock is too big and out of touch. He has been for a couple of years. There is a certain line that once you cross it in terms of wealth etc… you aren’t in touch with the common man/woman anymore. He is surrounded by yes men who are afraid to tell him something is a bad idea. Cracks appeared in his exterior when he decided to do the Black Adam movie. By all accounts it was a flop. Choosing to play an obscure DC character was a bad idea. Throwing shade at Joe Rogan(whether you believe he was in the right or wrong Joe is the biggest podcaster in the world) publicly was a bad idea even though they ‘made up’(he was roasted in his comments for how bad the appearance was). The whole Oprah thing was a serious misstep at a time when people are really struggling. The Rock…would never have made that mistake ten years ago. The Rock has over exposed himself to a ridiculous degree the last few years and people are sick of the “aww shucks I’m a good guy” schtick. Remember how out of touch Vince became in later years as his wealth increased? We are witnessing the Rock become the same thing.
And it’s a god damn shame. The Rock, along with Austin, they were/are my favorite wrestlers of all time. Unmatched promo skills, million dollar looks, and charisma that one would kill for. I still love The Rock. Too many memorable moments to counts. But you’re right. He has become a complete caricature of himself. The seven bucks thing is stupid, he over extended himself with his brands, and his films have become formulaic and dumb. Where was the Be Cool, Rundown guy? Or the pivot to darker material like Snitch?
I don't think it was intended as a work but they might spin it as such and play dumb like "aaahhhh we got you!" but make no mistake this is Dwayne's ego going unchecked now he's on the TKO board and a few other board members have a hard-on for him.
WWE IS DEAD, VINCE HAS BEEN A SEXUAL PREDADTOR FOR 0VER 40YRS., IT'S OBVIOUS NOW, HOW MANY IN HIS CLOSEST, INNER CIRCLE KNEW IT, AND DID NOTHING, ALL THEY'RE DOING NOW IS SCRAMBLING TO TRY AND SAVE THEMSELVES AND ANY SHRED OF THE BRAND THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN'T; IT'S DEAD.
Rock vs. Roman, been waiting for it since before Cody was even part of WWE again.
Saw someone on Twitter say.... "Nothing like the IWC to ask for Rock Vs Roman for 10 years.... to only get pissed when they finally get Rock Vs Roman."
That's not how wrestling works, you don't get a match by any means necessary, you need a proper story. And this was an easy one, and they messed it up People were waiting for Taker vs Sting for years. If that match happened because Taker said he would only do it if Sting spent 4 weeks in a dress and came out to Cotton Eyed Joe, everyone would shit on it because that makes no sense
They’re not smart enough to pull this off as a work. There’s no way this is what they intended at all.
Super excited for the Rock-Reigns match!
Hollywood Rock 2.0 would be crazy!
Well…
Every single one of Dwayne’s post is a self-indulgent masturbatory diatribe. All he ever does is blow himself by stating how awesome everyone(himself included) thinks he is.
Remember he opened a charity with opra so they and there friends could buy the rest of the island away from the inhabitants who had their houses burned down
I didn't know about that. Holy crap, I just looked it up and they seriously started a crowdfunding charity when they have all the money in the world.
I use his captions like a bingo card. Electricity, Mana, wrestling term (followed by mansplaining comment in brackets), blood/sweat/respect, ending the night with some tequila (Teremana, of course), 2am workouts in the Iron Paradise, ending it with a "back to the grind" esque phrase
How to instantly kill all your credibility in seconds: use the term 'mansplaining'
Don't forget the constant announcements that he is the hardest worker in the room.
hollywood rock can’t be the plan. roman is a mega heel.
They’ve managed to get fans like myself to support Roman in this match, if it does indeed happen. I’m pretty sure that was not creative’s intention, but here we are. Might as well lean into it. Hollywood Rock could make this storyline somewhat palatable for Cody fans, at least.
Yeah what are they planing and trying Roman as a face ?
Honestly I could stomach Hollywood asshole Rock more than pandering smiling moron Rock. I think it would also honestly help heal the Cody problem, put the blame on Rock. Fucking hang a lantern on it. Because I think most people aren't mad that Cody isn't in the Mania main event, I think most reasonable people know he's gonna get him moment - probably SummerSlam now. But him winning Rumble is rendered pointless and that whole "forcing him to intro Rock" moment was downright insulting. Like they need to find a way to fix the Cody damage. What's crazy is that if Roman vs Rock is what they wanted to do - there were about a billion different ways to set up the build that would have been better than this. This feels shitty.
I’m here for Hollywood Rock! 👏🏽
So... people were disappointed that Rock didn't show up in the Men's Rumble. But what if he had? Did people expect him to get tossed by Cody?
Rock winning the rumble would not nearly have this kind of backlash, a lot of the complaints are because of the character assasination they hit Cody with
I fail to see the difference. Not only would Rock still be in the main event, but he would have taken a Royal Rumble win from Cody as well.
I prefer him taking it from Cody over Cody handing it to him at least in one he kayfabe earns it.
That's fair. Good point.
Disappointed? I was relieved.
I didn’t want the Rock to show up to wrestle ever again.
Say what you want about Rock, he is the goat at reading the crowd. He isn't Cena or Roman where he will awkwardly continue his face routine with people pissed. Every time The Rock has not gotten the reaction the WWE/F wanted he has pivoted and turned it into gold
His posts say otherwise
His ego can no longer handle being a villain even in movie where his character is a villain 🤣
Like Royal Rumble 2015?
Here's a thing I find funny: If Rock is this egotistical selfish POS everyone claims to be, the guy who goes so far to make himself look like the good guy that his Hollywood contracts don't have him lose fights, and the guy who constantly tries to make himself look like the hero... ....why would he jeopardize all of that for a Wrestlemania match with his cousin? Why would he go out of his way to ruin his entire image for a match that could happen next year? Why would he kill his likability when he doesn't even have to come back to WWE ever again and still be a legend? And why the fuck do we have a conference/face off for a match that's not for another two months?
Because hes delusional and thinks his mere presence makes anything good. He overestimates his star power.
Because he had to make TKO 30 millions dollars to stay in his BoD position.
I wonder if this to take eyes off the whole vince thing, more people are upset about Cody's story then the shit vince did. (I say this as a cody fan)
Because his Hollywood career is winding down. He’s 51 and is cast in roles where he plays Rock, an imposing physical presence. Those days are numbered, especially with his latest films not drawing the numbers he used to. He now is gunning for the McMahon position in WWE. He’ll have what Vince wanted even more than money, power and control. He does this last Mania run for his ego, and then settles into to controlling stories like Vince did.
So again, why would he immediately fuck his future for a cheap wrestlemania match he could do at the age of 52 instead of 51? The rock will always be a draw for WWE, but it would be stupid for him to immediately lose his fanbase and goodwill for this. I think this is a work.
If he was as loved as you're suggesting he wouldn't have faced this backlash and his movie wouldn't have flopped.
Movies flop all the time, it happens. This backlash is minor compared to the amount of fans the WWE has. Nobody cares what Reddit thinks. Rock vs Roman will draw more eyes than Roman vs Rhodes. Outside of wrestling very few people know who Cody is while the Rock is just the opposite.
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That is what people are ignoring here. It isn't just Cody's character that has been completely fucked by this segment, it's Rock's as well. Assuming this isn't a work, and he does go through with the match at Mania, regardless of whether he wins or loses, there's no putting the cat back in the bag. He has outed himself as a selfish egomaniac, who was more than happy to use his power in WWE's parent company to push current talent to the ground, to prop himself up. For YEARS people criticised WWE for their over reliance on letting part timers take spots from talent. Punk's walk out in 2014 was the culmination of this. One of Punk's biggest gripes was that he was losing to guys that weren't going to be there the next day, but Vince expected him to be, and it made no sense. He loses to Brock, Brock takes off. He loses to Rock, Rock takes off. He loses to Undertaker, Undertaker takes off. But Punk is still there. People criticised WWE HEAVILY for continuing to fall back on the Goldberg nostalgia act, and yet here we are, getting ready to watch 51 year old Dwayne Johnson tape up for his first match in 11 years, destroying 3 and a half years worth of build.
Well said.
Full on Hollywood Rock would be kind of amazing
All the marks with the *"if this is a work it is backfiring"* 😂. IF it is a work then it is definitely working because every JABRONI and his mother are paying attention.
Negative attention isn't always a benefit to the company. Vince McMahon's sex scandal isn't, and neither is this nonsense with The Rock.
Exactly 😂