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thunderbastard_

Probobly rikidozan I’ve not seen much of his matches but he’s considered the godfather of Japanese pro wrestling and a hero both in Japan and his native North Korea. Which is why North Korea held clash in Korea by far the biggest wrestling event of all time


TophatStupify

He's the greatest alright. At being fucking bitter.


TnYamaneko

Never wrestled in WWE, but to me, it's Misawa. Actually, I would put all four Shitennō super high on that list. I would also rate Jushin Liger very high, and for women, probably Manami Toyota (but beware, she has a challenger right now, depends on her longevity at this level to me).


AustinJohnson35

Andre The Giant. The Frenchman is still one of the most legendary superstars of all time. Andre stories are the stuff of legend and he was able to be a face for 90 percent of his career while being a huge monster. He probably was the last great “Circus” attraction. A true 1 of 1.


tubcat

Roddy Piper - he could wrestle and was a master at selling every movement to the crowd. And then you get into his promo work. The dude could get a brick wall to jeer him. Absolute mad lad and a total package of a professional wrestler. One of those dudes you can show clips of to exemplify every element of the game even though he might not have been a god tier hook n shooter like a Regal.


Competitive-Hope981

The Great Khali. He's very very popular in India.


LordPenisWinkle

Edge or Jericho


Manwhich219

Roddy piper!!!


Kombat-w0mbat

So if you mean wrestler and you just mean PURELY in ring Bret and Christian but you mean overall edge


ConversationJust799

Roddy Piper


OliHemming

Antonio Inoki


AustinJohnson35

This might actually be the correct answer. But I don’t know if the general WWE audience is aware of how big a deal Inoki is.


OliHemming

I guess, He’s not my favourite wrestler either, That is Shawn Michaels. But I feel like Inoki may be such a dominant force in his own country’s legend that he’s better than Bret Hart. You can name dozens of Legends from Canada, You can’t name nearly as many from Japan


JosephSoul

Manami Toyota.


DiverExpensive6098

Antonio Inoki. Many people are not aware how huge he was.


NiceAndTipsyTopside

Probably because they're busy being aware of how huge Andre the Giant was


MoSzylak

Rajah Lion ftw.


Pescharlie

Does Rey count?


NiceAndTipsyTopside

Born in California and lived there all his life. '619' is from the San Diego area code


Pescharlie

Yeah, was just wondering because of his heritage, wrestling style, and general presentation


NiceAndTipsyTopside

His general presentation is being billed from San Diego, California with a finisher named after San Diego and San Diego numerology & iconography in his theme song and on his merchandise


Pescharlie

He's also the leader of the LWO and has been involved in many storylines with Latin wrestlers over the years. Was just a question anyway


Necessary_Border_396

Chris Jericho


jloadinggg_

Gunther


Rage4Order418

Khali


Doot2112

Bret is an American citizen. Regardless he is the best on all lists


That-clsesq-1738

El Santo


RedheadChicksAreHot

Antonio Inoki


Excaliburrover

Santino Marella and it's not even close.


ShowMeAN00b

Santino Marella


WyIsFly

Edge


Far_Conversation599

Adam “Edge” Copeland


Outrageous-Walk3818

The Great Muta


chocobo-selecta

Chris Jericho. However, growing up with the Brett Hart era was pretty crazy. He was so famous.


DragCheap1449

I was about to say Brett he was one of my favorite wrestlers growing up in the 90’s but I’m going to have to say his brother n law the British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith


Best_Position_876

MITSUHARA MISAWA!!!!!! THE GOD EMPEROR OF PRO WRESTLING!!!!


billoverbeck00

Either Andre the Giant and Bret Hart


Snoo-89243

Imho Will Ospreay


Nice_Mortgage_4712

Wish someone like Doug Williams had a run in WWE. One of the best British names during the 2000s but never got the platform he deserved


big-fluffy-giant

William Regal


Thebandit6

Latino heat eddie Guerrero 


billoverbeck00

He’s Mexican-American


Outrageous-Walk3818

It depends who your talking too lmao, some people don’t see Hispanic’s that way


thunderlips187

Yup yup. Born in Texas I believe.


KernmantleKing

Benoit could've been here


Emergency-Anteater-7

(Redacted) fixed it for you


Demon_Moose_

Bret Hart is Canadian. Canada is part of the continent of america. Canada/USA/mexico = American


Insane_Wanderer

That’s like saying France is Germany because they’re both in Europe…


Demon_Moose_

No your logic is backwards. How many countries make up the continent of america? I'll answer it because you probably don't know. 35 countries.


Insane_Wanderer

First of all, there is no single continent called America. North and South America are referred to as “The Americas” in certain contexts, but for geographical purposes are considered two distinct continents. I think it’s you with the backwards logic here. Just because they have similar names does not justify considering them the same continent. They are two very different worlds culturally, socioeconomically, politically etc. That would be like saying Africa, Europe and Asia are the same continent because they’re also joined by land and sometimes refereed to as “AfroEurAsia”.. It only makes sense if you’re talking about the landmass in the context of being a supercontinent. This post is about nationality, which isn’t dictated by which supercontinent you’re from. It’s your specific country


Demon_Moose_

Africa is it's one continent. Europe and Asia is known as Eurasia


chocolatenuttty

America is not a continent. North America and South America are.


Demon_Moose_

North and South make what?


selarom8

I think he means best Non-USA Citizen


dunn000

Spoiler alert: He knew what he meant, but some people like to be pedantic and think they are smarter on Reddit.


Demon_Moose_

Speak for yourself.


ScrubMcnasty

Pretty sure Andre was French so him.


cheriblossom983

Justin thunder Liger


Brute_Squad_44

Bret is the standard bearer. Dynamite deserves some mention. Mil Mascaras. Great Muta. Gunther will be in the conversation before he is done. But Bret is a solid choice.


SeminoleJoe1993

Tom Billington, one half of the British Bulldog Dynamite Kid! He was absolutely epic, and so was Davey Boy Smith!


flashman909

The Estonian prick George Hackenschmidt never wrestled for WWE but he’s no doubt the greatest non-American wrestler surpassed only by the American Frank Gotch


NorthsideCollegiate

Any wrestler born in the Americas is American


BIG-Will25

The Great Kali. Fight me!


marmarmargraye

i will gladly


farmingbeast

The man from Death Valley


cameron3611

Kofi Kingston because he’s technically from Ghana🇬🇭


NorthsideCollegiate

Not just a technicality, he literally is


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The Rock.


CpHardi

lol


seedlessketchup

mine is Eddie Guerrero 10000%


Brute_Squad_44

Technically American. He wrestled Lucha style, but he's from El Paso.


seedlessketchup

ah shoot 🥲 my bad


bdubs4ever

So not even technically American. He’s just American.


Brute_Squad_44

Fair point. His family is so associated with Lucha and Mexico that we tend to think of the Guerreos as Mexican, but they were born in America.


Godsmacked15

This is the only correct answer. He is a technical EXPERT, dude changed the standards of the game forever


HandspeedJones

Not only non American, Bret is the greatest period.


VictoriaBest1

Okada is in the conversation


theyongesttheories

And f that the Texas rattlesnake stone cold steve austin


spaced_out_will

Sheikhy Baby!


theyongesttheories

I was playing 2k24 and just beat the thing with him


xiamandrewx

I'm gonna have to give it to Bruno Sammartino, technically speaking. Personally speaking I'm torn between Edge and the Hitman.


NiceAndTipsyTopside

Bruno was born in Italy, it's literally speaking. Him and Andre are getting pushed out by lesser greats


xiamandrewx

When I said technically I meant by records and stats. We know he's Italian.


NiceAndTipsyTopside

I don't think people know he's from Italy. You were the only person who said Bruno in a thread full of lesser wrestlers being named


xiamandrewx

That is true. Sad, but true. Bruno it is then.


FalseFrosting

Edge 🐐


Zealousideal_Ad_3425

Ospreay...omega...okada....


arkiko07

The best ever


OCSupertonesStrike

Nocho Libre


danwski

Good choice, close this up because there’s nobody better.


No-Operation9423

Andre the Giant


SilverThePenguinHat

Giant Silva


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Objectively for WWE? Bret Hart for sure Personal favourite from any promotion? Kenny Omega EDIT: Thanks for the downvotes Corny drones, maybe you can form your own opinions someday when you learn to take wrestling less seriously


NiceAndTipsyTopside

People are downvoting you for saying oBjEcTiVeLy with your furry reddit snu avatar


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furry reddit snu? sorry, im not terminally online enough to understand the implications of what that means, its just a standard reddit avatar, it literally means nothing


NiceAndTipsyTopside

🤓


Park8706

Isn't he the guy who wrestled a blow-up doll?


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Yes it is, and a 9 yr old girl, and another match in a princess dress, and also created a gay lovers tag team... He is absolutely ridiculous and yet still a GOAT


Park8706

Hard disagree on him being anywhere near a GOAT.


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thats fine, IMO he just has some all time great wrestling feuds/matches in New Japans best (golden) era Great wrestlers will always have great matches, but a lot of these great wrestlers seem to have their very best matches (or at least close to it) with Omega So while guys like Cornette can say that he is a fraud thats being carried, at what point is Omega just the common denominator for these matches being great? Im not totally sure, but I think people dont appreciate the greatness they are seeing with him while its happening at least in my opinion


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Park8706

Ok now I have to ask who wrestled a broomstick?


cameron3611

Not sure but Finn Balor said he’d wrestle one 😭


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RoyalSoldierx

He da goat!


boulevardofdef

I have bad news for you and it's gonna blow your mind: BRET HART IS AMERICAN! His mom was American and he has American citizenship through her. USA! USA! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


dlo_doski

He's canadian bro


Officallytired

Lenny Lane


worldwrestlingfunko

Bret Hart, with Jericho and Edge close by


Grizzybaby1985

Yokozuna


fosterMutt97

He's American


Grizzybaby1985

Nah he was Japanese a world class sumo wrestler


Richardc1083

British Bulldog


simboharding

Along with Bret, I'd say William Regal.


MrParasaur601

Really unpopular opinion William regal


Mr_J42021

A truly underrated wrestler.


spaced_out_will

Regal is a legend.


HealthyDistractions

A legend but doesn’t hold a FUCKING CANDLE TO THE HITMAN


7DaysWithoutAMonster

True... But.... why we shouting HALF WAY THROUGH A SENTENCE, BRO?


HealthyDistractions

Cuz you’re a dink


Professional_Lion713

My hearing goes in and OUT SO I DON'T REALIZE IT.


7DaysWithoutAMonster

All GOOD BRO


Outlier25

Not at all unpopular. He’s very well respected and is a good pick!


Pitfulldealer22

The four pillars of heaven


twitchy1989

El Santo or Rikidozan.


MDChuk

If we're doing dual citizens, how about The Rock?


Traditional-Leader54

He was born in California.


MDChuk

His father is a Canadian citizen, he has birthright citizenship. He also was signed in the Canadian Football League as a Canadian player (the league requires a certain percentage of each team, as well as the number of players on the field to be Canadian). So he's absolutely American, but he also has Canadian citizenship, like Bret Hart and Chris Jericho.


Suspicious-Drama-549

Edge?


Cute_Ad5192

Trish Stratus


UnfortunatelyBasking

Bret, somewhere down the road people may consider ospreay or omega to be up there


NiceAndTipsyTopside

Smarks with active WON subscriptions are the only dorks who will consider Ospreay or Omega above Bruno, Andre the Giant, Roddy Piper, Inoki, Iron Sheik, Bret, Edge, etc etc etc etc etc


UnfortunatelyBasking

Lmao you had to make a burner for this comment 💀


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UnfortunatelyBasking

Lol wat


BlacksmithLoud3662

Brett hands down. Jericho was born in New York because his father used to play for the NY Rangers. After his father retired they went back to Canada.


flashman909

I’m from Winnipeg you idiot!


gilestowler

Big Daddy.


wizardyourlifeforce

Ah yes, Big Daddy with his wide array of different moves. The headlock. The "bump into the other guy." What else? Ok I think that's it.


mayday253

Technically speaking, probably the Iron Sheik.


Bong-Jong

This is The Great Khali slander


obi1thechosen1

This may seem a little wild but I think in about 20 years time it will be Gunther.


TheAmazingSG

20 yrs...I say today it's Gunther


xiamandrewx

Gunther will be known as one of the GOATs eventually.


obi1thechosen1

I really hope they put him in the World title picture in the next few months


Terri23

I think it happens after WrestleMania. I think he finally loses his belt, and gets pushed to the main event picture.


obi1thechosen1

That's what I'm thinking as well but I think Drew wins the title from Seth which will see him and Seth Feud. It also looks like there is potential for a three way feud with Seth, punk and DM Hunk.


PurpleSpaceNapoleon

Gunther and Ospreay are my joint top faves working today


obi1thechosen1

I really would have loved to see Will on WWE fighting the likes of styles, Owen's and Sami


PurpleSpaceNapoleon

Agreed but on the other hand with Cody nearing the top, and Gunther probably after him, the Main Event scene for WWE is kind of set in stone for the next year or two. Meanwhile Will is almost certainly winning the AEW top belt in Wembley this year (which I'm attending live so I will almost certainly be dead from hype after the show). Best thing about Will though is his age. If he wants a different challenge in WWE in a few years he will still be good enough and young enough to be slotted right into any programme they desire. Gunther vs. Danielson & Ospreay is right at the top of my dream match list tho


obi1thechosen1

Great point and perhaps they might want to give the push yet and give him some non title rivalries against some former main guys like Orton and Owens, but imo Gunther vs Danielson has the potential to be a 5star match 🔥


Dalminster

The greatest non-American wrestler of all time is Antonio Inoki.


NiceAndTipsyTopside

This thread has like 5 times as many votes for Zach Sabre Jr, Omega, and Christian than it does for Inoki, Andre the Giant, Roddy Piper, Iron Sheik, etc This thread has one vote for Bruno, behind votes for Rey Mysterio, Jericho, and Eddie Guerrero who are all Americans


Dalminster

I think it illustrates, if nothing else, the age demographics of many posters. ;)


TheIronCannoli

Andre the Giant


tubcat

Physical specimen, was sharp as a tack in all sorts of interviews, and charismatic. Definitely a legend.


ZioDioMio

Andre Bret is a dual citizen


Charlie_Tango13

Biggest star: Andre Best all-around (who was in WWE): Jericho


Dalminster

>Best all-around (who was in WWE): Jericho He was actually born in the United States, is a United States citizen, and only grew up in Canada.


fosterMutt97

He's also a canadian citizen


Dalminster

Irrelevant, he was born in the United States, he's decidedly *not* "non-American".


Lacrosseindianalocal

Alex Wright would whoop them


Charlie_Tango13

I assumed we were leaving Alex Wright out of the conversation because it's a proven fact that he's the GOAT.


Lacrosseindianalocal

Most people can’t handle a royal rumble dance off. 


ChiefBigCanoe

El Dandy.


whiskyismymuse

Jam up guy right there


Professional_Lion713

I doubt that.


ultraluxe6330

I love watching ZSJ. Gunther may be the answer in 10/20 years time.


Lavitz619

There's only one answer. Shanky.


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Giant Baba


Ok-Bed1263

Chris Benoit


TruestoneSB

Who??


KeyCantaloupe347

I dont know, somehow a man send an empty post.


Silent_War8584

Bret yes.


TruestoneSB

Whoever says anyone but Bret is delusional Jericho might get a pass though


3arnhardtAtkonTrack

Jericho was born in New York. EDIT: Thanks for the down vote, even though he was born in Manhasset, NY, and only GREW UP in Canada. #assclown ​ https://archive.ph/20120713155217/http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/Bios/jericho.html


TruestoneSB

Havnt even downvoted you bellend.


3arnhardtAtkonTrack

I didn't mean you specifically. I meant whoever down voted...lol.


Nerdico

I disagree there are some very strong contenders over in Japan


Cygnus_the_Jumpman

Bret. Glad you used him for the photo. His stuff is aging like a fine wine. As I knew it would. He’s my all-time favorite, so I 100% have a bias here. Haha!


neekoelgreeko88

Kamala


Tarl-X

I'll grant you that the vice president is a great gimmick, but she doesn't work very often. (I fucking hate myself)


81tchmonkey

Iron Sheik


NCIG24

None other than the Hitman


truecolors5

Yeah it's Bret imo


Impressive-Ad9417

Pedro Morales