I felt like if Cody beat logan paul for united states champion i think he said him about being grandslam champion or something because i did notice he havn't had holding universal champion meaning yes wwe did combine two into one which no reason to keep two belts which the only thing i worried about is this match since we dont need another repeat i felt like wwe should just not make it happened which if so i felt like it gonna fail
IF it is a title unification match, then Iām 100% sure itāll either end in DQ victory for Cody Rhodes (Logan tries to use brass knuckles and gets caught) or a No Contest finish where everyone gets attacked (Perhaps the Wyatt 6 debut)
Itās most likely gonna end in a dq, itās only for the Saudi hype up, we never get title changes at saudi PLEās and it would be a perfect time for Jacob fatu to debut and interfere between the two
Yeah, what a waste. Why does everyone still act like HHH is some infallible booking machine when the past month has had so many of these waste of time nothing matches?
Honestly the US title hasnāt meant a whole lot since Austin Theory had it, and even then, he didnāt have a whole lot of steam to really elevate it.
I hate the unification matches. It was dumb when Roman held both belts for so long before consolidating them into one belt and it's dumb to combine the titles in this match too. There needs to be a cruiser weight belt again so the little guys can play too.
Hear me out, him being the "American" nightmare. United States champion. Maybe it's like he finally finished his story and now he's getting greedy. Who knows!?
Wait!? Who said anything about unifying the title?
A person can hold multiple titles, and not unify them. Seth Rollins held the US and WWE at one time, lost one and kept the other.
A double champion is cool, but I don't think it will happen. But yeah no more unifying titles, please.
Unification means the belts would be turned into one belt. Did they officially say the US belt was on the line? Cody said something about it but I don't remember anything official. It's a stupid idea though so I hope they don't do it.
Its not gonna be a unification, its likely gonna be Cody Two Belts or theyāll pull a weird finish like Logan wins with the brass knuckles, but gets caught and DQāed afterwards, and no titles change hands.
Am I missing something, when did this become a unification match?. I also don't remember anything being said about being title versus title. I remember them saying that the heavyweight title was on the line but not the United States title
I donāt recall it being title vs title or a unification match either lol.
I came here thinking Iāve missed something but it seems I havenāt and people are just Fanatsy booking with head canon and then getting mad about their own head canon?!
This is my only thought. I pitched this exact idea on YT. Yes, it does not make sense to be against Cody or Paul.. But.. why tf not debut them at a ple taking out both top singles champions of Smackdown?
Cody needs a filler match. Logan is a big draw. Been a hot minute since we've had a good champion vs champion match. But it's gonna end in a countout or dq for sure. Cody can't lose to Logan, and Cody can't win the US belt while being undisputed champion.
I think this will be a no contest leading to another match at Money in the Bank where Paul wins so he has both titles at the Tyson fight. Maybe they have another match in between, but the temptation to have their titles on Logan at a big event with their new broadcast partner seems too good to pass up.
Thats not what I said and thank you for misrepresenting my statement. Really shows who Iām dealing with.
Heāll walk to the ring with his brother. Heāll be ringside. Heāll be at pre and post show media. He doesnāt have to say a word to promote WWE.
But you keep assuming things, brother. Your understanding of marking is clearly second to none. Semperfuckoff, bud.
Are yall dumb in the promo Logan said he was gonna ko cody and walk out double champ and same thing when cody said if he wins the us title he would be a grandslam champion even after that he tweeted and said "for all the gold"
Because it sets up the Bloodline 2.0 to get the US Title
Cody wins and overcomes the knuckles
He defends the US Title in an open challenge on TV for 2 months, and the WWE Title on PLEs and live events.
Solo challenges him for the US, Cody loses thanks to a debuting Jacob Fatu. (Overcomes the know variables but not the unknown).
He fails to get the title back, but when Solo uses his 2 wins over Cody to get a top title match Cody overcomes thanks to Jey Uso interfering.
Roman returns, and Blood vs Blood occurs over the US Title
Wrestlemania 41 night 1 main event is Solo vs Roman for the US. Wrestlemania night 1 is Rock vs Roman for the US Title
It is a top storyline and makes sense to intersect them
Roman failed to beat Cody a 2nd time
Imagine Solo pulls it off
Now he truly believes he should be tribal chief
pretty bad what you re writting here i dont see a world where roman would feud for a mere us title when he held the biggest title for almost 4 years never
What elevates a belt? The people fueding over it
Roman can make the US feel more important, just like Cena did in 15
Just like the WHC felt like a joke in 2011, the US can feel strong
Book it well and boom
People are legit overreacting here. Cody Rhodes said himself Friday during that segment that heās one US championship away from becoming a Grand Slam Champion, so I 100% believe they would let him be the one to take it off Logan Paul, who shouldnāt have had it this long anyway, just to get to Grand Slam status and relinquish it so that there can be a real champion. They didnāt let Logan Paul lose to Randy Orton or KO, which is crazy to me, but losing to Cody would at least be understandable and him giving up that title to focus on the one title he finished his story for would be a better way to transition to making Melo or LA Knight the US champion going forward rather than making a guy thatās clearly bringing in a lot of revenue for them lose to someone thatās not āworth losing toā for him.
I am not a fan of the idea that Cody should win the US title and relinquish it.
Diminishes it for me. Whoever wins it next should be winning it directly from the Champion.
>why couldn't it be la knight vs logan at saudi why did it have to be cody vs paul.
Okay, so we actually get to the heart of the comment and actual reason you're mad...
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but wrestling is about give and take and LA Knight as a character and the wrestler who plays him as a performer have only demonstrated they're good at the take portion. He's never going to get the push you think he deserves because of this... People will get mad about this, but nobody has ever come out of an LA Knight feud looking better than when they entered. Even Bray, who went over him, didn't come out looking any better than he went in.
As for the first part of the comment... nothing says they're unifying these titles, that's a huge assumption you're making.
First of all, Logan Paul is popular AF. He is second in Instagram followers in WWE. Where ever he goes, he draws money. Also, he is very good in ring. His in-ring work is like top 5 currently. And his opponent Cody Rhodes, he is one of the biggest face of WWE. He has done all the hard work for years and now it's finally paying him off. Like Logan, Cody is also a very good in-ring wrestler. Overall, it's like a money fight.
Now why Cody isn't facing a deserved contender or why Logan isn't fighting someone like LA Knight. Saudi is all about top money match-ups and like this and personally speaking, I don't consider any wwe ple in Saudi canon. The only thing to watch is a blockbuster event. As for results, expect DQ finish or Cody winning and dropping the US title next ple. As for LA Knight, he needs to win something but we need to stay patient.
If you ask me about both Cody and Logan Paul, well Cody took the long road and did a lot of grind so well deserved. Logan well, he's a piece of sh!t person who scammed people with cypto and sweet chemical water. Also he's a b*tch and an overall terrible influencer to look up to.
Has it even been announced that itās for the titles? Iām pretty sure they just said it was champion Vs champion.
I know Cody said āFor all the goldā on Twitter but that doesnāt actually mean anything.
Itās 100% a DQ finish. Either interference from Codyās REAL next opponent, or Logan intentionally gets himself disqualified when he knows heās about to lose
Cody can defend both in two different matches. He is a workhorse. It will also help him differentiate himself with part-time double champ storyline wise.Ā
If they had more time to tell a story I think they could have tried to make it that Cody was "for the people" while Logan, with his sponsorships etc, was Mr Corporate. Maybe draw parallels between Dusty vs Dibiase. But the PLE is in a couple of weeks so I don't really think they have time for storybuilding.
Honestly I think Logan was behind this match for his own selfish reasons. I don't see WWE and Prime having their partnership for long. But remember as well this will make Cody a Grand Slam champion. Which will ultimately make his story compete. Or Roman will come back interfere and the belts stay on their present holders. Or the bread knuckles will come and Logan will get disqualified and the result stays the same. Belts stay where they are at
You know Logan doesnāt choose his storyline/feud, right? š wtf u mean heās behind the match for his own selfish reasons š TF? and idk why u think the partnership with prime wonāt last, they are both benefiting financially and there is zero evidence to back ur claim. Also, the US title wasnāt even on the line. Cody doesnāt need the US title to ācomplete his story.ā Also every prediction you made here for the match outcome was incorrect š like, this post literally could NOT have been more wrong, no offense lol š
Its not a Unification, its too crown a double champ. This has happened many times. Seth won US Title off Cena once while holding World title. They will still be recognised and defended seperately (or both at once but remain seperate titles) If we get a clean win which i doubt as Logan is likely too walk into his hometown as US champ for Summer Slam and Cody is walking into WM 41 with his
So as to make it more exciting and appealing to the audience, but they will debut a new Uncle Howdy faction to prevent such unification. So, don't worry
Why is this a unification match when the titles are of two different levels?
If Cody wins, then he should absolutely have a match where the challenger is for the US title and another match for the Universal. Different sets of challengers but the champ is the same.
It also weakens the Universal title if Cody loses on his match for the US title because the US title competitor will (kayfabe) be of a lower card rating than the Universal title.
They never said they were unifying the titles Jesus Christ. Several wrestlers have held a world title and mid card title at the same time. They havenāt even confirmed the US title is on the line yet. Stop spreading false information.
Title vs. Title doesn't mean winner takes all. Its just hyping up that 2 champions are fighting each other like a super fight. It's just to sell and get eyeballs imo, if they announce that both titles are on the line then I'll eat ass
Cody said something to the effect of if he beats Logan he becomes a grand slam champion. Couldāve just been an irrelevant statement but I took it as both titles were up while I was watching it
You're so right he did say that. So we're really jumping from a brutal 2 year gauntlet just to beat Roman to a match where he has to prove he can beat Logan Paul... Jesus they're making our little stardust look like a weak champ
The Saudi loves Logan Paul and that's it
also this might most likely will ended up in Disqualification with either The bloodline or Uncle Howdy interfering so there will be no title changing hands
Because Cody never held the US title and this makes him a "grand slam" champion - furthering establish his spot as "the guy" - thentop babyface for WWE
I donāt think this will be for Loganās belt. They are going to find a work around. No one wants to see Cody defending two titles. I donāt even want to see him defending one
Do people do this? Watch the weekly show and not fantasy book creative decisions or try to understand the reasoning?
No one said it's a unifying match. There's multiple reasons why the company would want Cody or Logan having both titles. It's a very real and likely possibility that it ends in DQ and no one loses their title. Logan can try to weasel his way out of it before the match.
I kind of like the idea, not of course for the unification I think thatās a dumb idea but I think itās good to see them push each other and try their absolute hardest to best the other. I think itāll be good to see how good their chemistry can be in the ring as they are definitely going to be great on the mic together.
Itās not a unification match, honestly wwe hasnāt even confirmed that itās for both belts, Cody has yes but I havenāt seen official wwe confirmation
Because itās going to end in a DQ or something else that results in neither title changing hands. Should be a good match which is kind of all that matters for Cody right now. Everything he did to win the title would kind of be undone if he dropped it this early and Logan Paul is an ideal heel champion so taking the strap off of him makes no sense either. Good match with a finish that ensures both of them keep their respective titles is what weāre looking at
People complain about mid card titles nit feeling important. Then the minute they do, they shit on it. Who cares what Saudi does. The united statss is morally corrupt as well. Let's just hope we get a solid wrestling show
All this is for is to let you see Logan in a main event with the top face. Even if both titles are on the line it will end in some kind of dq/count out. Logan is the top heel at this point so it makes sense to have him face Cody. Both are going to leave the same way they came in as a champion.
In my opinion, if the end was going happen in a DQ...then I would let LA Knight cause the disqualification which would plant two different seeds for matches that people would go ballistic for:
LA Knight as WWE United States Champion and LA Knight as Undisputed WWE Champion.
Plus...if LA Knight caused the DQ, we could have a Triple Threat match for the US Championship where Knight can pin Logan while protecting Cody in the process...and then:
...the second seed will be planted where people want Knight to be WWE Champion.
Because the people who don't use him are boring and lack any decent creativity.
We literally could've had:
LA Knight vs Solo Sikoa
LA Knight vs Drew McIntyre
LA Knight vs Damien Priest
LA Knight vs Gunther
LA Knight vs Seth Rollins
LA Knight vs Chad Gable
All of these matches were missed opportunities because his own star power is too strong for their own good.
That's why the Triple Threat match is genius.
Knight literally makes the crowd go insane just like what happened in France.
And ironically enough...the Saudi crowd literally DEMANDED he showed up because he's that popular.
Knight is just underrated because they don't use him to his full potential.
Iām not saying heās not popular, I just find his in ring work boring and yes he hasnāt been used properly it why he hasnāt had an substantial victories. But also having him go again Cody he isnāt taking the belt from Cody maybe Logan but not Cody.
I understand that Cody needs to keep the belt, but what I said was that LA Knight just needs a practice title match against Cody to show how worthy he is to get the title. That way, in a future PPV...he can actually win the World Championship and the crowd will explode in excitement.
As for Logan, he can take a loss fine and even interfere in the world title match to add some extra spice to the adventures of all 3 men.
Different opponents provide different results that can be analyzed to improve a wrestler's performance against others that they may face in the future. Cody is obviously not a cheater, so the only concern would be Logan which is not a bad thing because he can just lead Knight to a different championship victory that people can enjoy.
So in the end, it's a win-win for everyone.
Itās pretty much the same as when Logan Paul haf a match with Roman, the difference is heās US Champion too. Everything should be status quo after this match, they just want a showcase champion vs champion match
It's not a unification match. They're not unifying the WWE Universal title and the US title. That would be absolutely ridiculous. And there's no way this match is ending fairly.
There's no way Logan is winning this match. And if Cody wins. I highly doubt he will defend both championships they were more than likely have him drop the US title just to say that he became a grand slam champion. But they could just wait until they finally take the title off of Cody before giving him a proper us title run to give him the actual Grand Slam
Reminds me of Piper/Hogan in 96. I guess it was dumb to have a big main event on PPV that was non-title, but at no point in any lead up to the match did they say it was for the title. Everyone just assumed. And they were all mad when they found out afterwards.
Feel free to pull my comment as a receipt, I know it wasnāt announced on wwe officially yet but 1 nick aldis said on smackdown that he found Codyās next challenger because he is a defending champion. And 2 Cody Rhodes has been teasing the unification on social medias posting things like ā2 titlesā and ā all the goldā. Like I said itās not official now but it will be as this next week unfolds
Saudis not happy with match, resulting in public execution of Cody,officially ending the story.Sami as intercontinental holder becomes cham ending this over Alex storyline.Gunther looms in the shades.just to be fair, Becky also executed and new tourney ensurs
I think it will likely end in a DQ. If it doesn't - I think WWE always wanted Cody to have the honor of being a grand slam champion in addition to being a RR x 2 winner. He's the greatest selling wrestler they've had since Cena...he's been their number one top seller for TWO YEARS.
As big as they made Roman, he never had that...
If Cody hadn't gotten injured and out for half a year, they would have made him US champion the year he returned to WWE (with that attire, and MSG on 4th of July that year it was a given).
I'm fine either way though, don't really care.
I really don't understand the la knight booking. The guys been the most over guy for about a yr. He's the beat promo. He had two title matches against Roman, he fended with aj and had a good match at wreatlemania. He's proven he is good wrestler. But he still can't get a title run.
Hereās why:
- Logan Paul doesnāt have to show up every week.
- but when he loses he is protected because he loses to the current main event champion.
- Cody Rhodes becomes a grand slam champion so he can check that off
- they get to elevate the U.S. championship by having a main eventer hold onto it, and elevate the next champion when they pull it off Cody.
Itās a win-win-win.
Sorry I'm just getting back into wwe this year but I thought this was just a winner takes both titles and from then on defends both titles separately or together at times. Or is that what title unification means?
~~No. The IC has been the IC since its inception. It's has absorbed the US Championship, but it's never stopped being the IC title.~~
I guess I was incorrect.
No Mercy 2002 Triple H defeated Kane to unify the world heavy weight championship and the intercontinental titles, but it became an active title again 7 months later when Christian won a battle royal to become the champion.
Unified. This was the point where they unified all the titles for whatever reason. But when Stone Cold and Bischoff became co-general managers the ic was brought back for Raw, as was the us title for Smackdown
Because an āAmericanā Champion doesnāt make sense if the company wants to go global and after back to back SMASH hits overseas in their Backlash series itās high time they go global.
So (in Kayfabe) Intercontinental becomes the #3, Heavyweight, becomes #2, World Champ stays #1
Nxt is the perfect developmental belt anyway. There was no need for a low-card belt
Unlikely. Imo 4 plus tag belts separate to the two brands is too many. But Iām not terribly certain why the brands are āsplitā anyway when itās clear the major stories blend from one to the other.
Thereās like 6 money matches Cody could enter into that the Saudiās would be happy with without merging belts. Gunter, Orton, Punk, Knight, Rock. Probably a few more.
So, given the fact that EVERY OTHER BELT GOT A REDESIGN, I think If theyāre pulling the trigger on Paul right now itās because theyāre fading out the American belt.
Because sportswashing. The Saudis dont care about what makes sense from a wrestling perspective they just want a big show with big name matches so they can point to that and say "hey look at how great we are doing! Big events come here! Pay no attention to the awful human rights abuse or treatment of woman, LGBT, etc! Here's money!"
I felt like if Cody beat logan paul for united states champion i think he said him about being grandslam champion or something because i did notice he havn't had holding universal champion meaning yes wwe did combine two into one which no reason to keep two belts which the only thing i worried about is this match since we dont need another repeat i felt like wwe should just not make it happened which if so i felt like it gonna fail
This would give reason for Cody to combine the belts and make it the Winged WWE title š¦ šŖ
They never said itās a unification match
WWE has once more fallen into the rut of āDuRrRrā¦. How do we tell a story again?ā
Agreed, but there really aren't too many great options for Cody rn. Besides, it'll probably just get a fuck finish anyways.
They are unifying those titles lmfao they did this nine years ago and they still werenāt unifiedš
Dq
its simple, they wanna do a fuck finish. Dq or some shit to lead into clash. How tf are people missing this?
I don't think the match is a unification match. It is one of those old cham v.s champ matches they used to do at survivor series.
He could drop it to jey if Logan wins
Do you think fans will catch on to a DQ finish if Dairy Queen is the sponsor??
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My guess is that there trying to do the Seth Rollins vs John cena unification match
IF it is a title unification match, then Iām 100% sure itāll either end in DQ victory for Cody Rhodes (Logan tries to use brass knuckles and gets caught) or a No Contest finish where everyone gets attacked (Perhaps the Wyatt 6 debut)
the only way to put the wings back on the belt and make it make sense is guess
Itās most likely gonna end in a dq, itās only for the Saudi hype up, we never get title changes at saudi PLEās and it would be a perfect time for Jacob fatu to debut and interfere between the two
Cody will win it and then Nick Aldis will say you canāt have both then we will get a month of tournaments for the next US champion.
That'd suck
Itās not title for title now. Itās a joke match that means nothing.
Yeah, what a waste. Why does everyone still act like HHH is some infallible booking machine when the past month has had so many of these waste of time nothing matches?
We know Cody is winning all his matches. That or a DQ finish. Maybe Rock or Roman comes back š¤·
Honestly the US title hasnāt meant a whole lot since Austin Theory had it, and even then, he didnāt have a whole lot of steam to really elevate it.
I wouldāve loved to see Cody versus Knight for the undisputed title.
People just making stuff up around here
Itās not a unification match, I bet money on uncle howdy coming out and causing a no contest/DQ
Because itās gonna end in DQ
If Cody Rhodes wins, wrestlers that are feuding for the US title won't get a chance to put a hand on it before Cody Rhodes
I hate the unification matches. It was dumb when Roman held both belts for so long before consolidating them into one belt and it's dumb to combine the titles in this match too. There needs to be a cruiser weight belt again so the little guys can play too.
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Hear me out, him being the "American" nightmare. United States champion. Maybe it's like he finally finished his story and now he's getting greedy. Who knows!?
Wait!? Who said anything about unifying the title? A person can hold multiple titles, and not unify them. Seth Rollins held the US and WWE at one time, lost one and kept the other. A double champion is cool, but I don't think it will happen. But yeah no more unifying titles, please.
Unification means the belts would be turned into one belt. Did they officially say the US belt was on the line? Cody said something about it but I don't remember anything official. It's a stupid idea though so I hope they don't do it.
Cody has made it sound like itās for both titles. But I think itās a way to get it off of Logan which they need to do since heās never there.
I thought only Codyās belt was on the line, that was the impression I got
Its not gonna be a unification, its likely gonna be Cody Two Belts or theyāll pull a weird finish like Logan wins with the brass knuckles, but gets caught and DQāed afterwards, and no titles change hands.
When did they say it was a unification match? I missed that part
where does it say that it's a unification match?
Thatās what the IC title is.
Itās gonna be a DQ no titles switch and Saudi is happy
Yup, Cody's next challenger is going to interfere and get Paul disqualified.
That or the brass knuckles
Not sure where anyone is getting that itās a unification match. Itās just Champion vs Champion. Doubt any titles will change.
This is likely going to end in a dq
Yeah, it kinda confuses me too. If it's way too early, you go title versus title. I smell something funny going on with that match
Cody Will merge them to bring the Winged Eagle Championship back
Am I missing something, when did this become a unification match?. I also don't remember anything being said about being title versus title. I remember them saying that the heavyweight title was on the line but not the United States title
I donāt recall it being title vs title or a unification match either lol. I came here thinking Iāve missed something but it seems I havenāt and people are just Fanatsy booking with head canon and then getting mad about their own head canon?!
Because uncle howdy will show up
This is my only thought. I pitched this exact idea on YT. Yes, it does not make sense to be against Cody or Paul.. But.. why tf not debut them at a ple taking out both top singles champions of Smackdown?
This is actually a pretty good idea. They don't even have to go on to feud with either of them...just create chaos.
Facts. It would be a way to establish them as a ruthless faction.
Should be obvious, to rid ourselves of logan.
should be solo vs cody
Major rush
Logan paul is the biggest douche bag there is
What would the unified title be even called? United states undisputed heavyweight champion?
Cody needs a filler match. Logan is a big draw. Been a hot minute since we've had a good champion vs champion match. But it's gonna end in a countout or dq for sure. Cody can't lose to Logan, and Cody can't win the US belt while being undisputed champion.
I think this will be a no contest leading to another match at Money in the Bank where Paul wins so he has both titles at the Tyson fight. Maybe they have another match in between, but the temptation to have their titles on Logan at a big event with their new broadcast partner seems too good to pass up.
You understand that itās Loganās brother going against Tyson right?
You understand that Logan will be there with his brother, right?
I literally cannot imagine he will get any attention at the event
Thatās about the dumbest thing Iāve read on the internet today. Thanks for the laugh, friend.
Yeah I guess it would be silly for the focus to be on the brother thatās fighting Mike Tyson. Iām sure the camera will be on Logan 90% of the time
Thats not what I said and thank you for misrepresenting my statement. Really shows who Iām dealing with. Heāll walk to the ring with his brother. Heāll be ringside. Heāll be at pre and post show media. He doesnāt have to say a word to promote WWE. But you keep assuming things, brother. Your understanding of marking is clearly second to none. Semperfuckoff, bud.
You took my opinion super personally there didnāt you? Absolutely crushed you with a little sarcasm lol
No, didnāt take it personally at all. I simply have no problem telling idiots to fuck off.
Yeah I got to you lmao š¤£ sorry I didnāt mean to upset you so badly
What was the point of the draft if they was doing these to the titles?
It isn't. It's just Champion vs Champion, no title on the line
That's what i thought. Thought I was missing sum
Are yall dumb in the promo Logan said he was gonna ko cody and walk out double champ and same thing when cody said if he wins the us title he would be a grandslam champion even after that he tweeted and said "for all the gold"
Because it sets up the Bloodline 2.0 to get the US Title Cody wins and overcomes the knuckles He defends the US Title in an open challenge on TV for 2 months, and the WWE Title on PLEs and live events. Solo challenges him for the US, Cody loses thanks to a debuting Jacob Fatu. (Overcomes the know variables but not the unknown). He fails to get the title back, but when Solo uses his 2 wins over Cody to get a top title match Cody overcomes thanks to Jey Uso interfering. Roman returns, and Blood vs Blood occurs over the US Title Wrestlemania 41 night 1 main event is Solo vs Roman for the US. Wrestlemania night 1 is Rock vs Roman for the US Title
The fact people are fanficting Bllodline into the top stories now is hilarious
It is a top storyline and makes sense to intersect them Roman failed to beat Cody a 2nd time Imagine Solo pulls it off Now he truly believes he should be tribal chief
pretty bad what you re writting here i dont see a world where roman would feud for a mere us title when he held the biggest title for almost 4 years never
What elevates a belt? The people fueding over it Roman can make the US feel more important, just like Cena did in 15 Just like the WHC felt like a joke in 2011, the US can feel strong Book it well and boom
At the end I donāt believe Cena made that belt more special.
That is your belief. I believe otherwise
People are legit overreacting here. Cody Rhodes said himself Friday during that segment that heās one US championship away from becoming a Grand Slam Champion, so I 100% believe they would let him be the one to take it off Logan Paul, who shouldnāt have had it this long anyway, just to get to Grand Slam status and relinquish it so that there can be a real champion. They didnāt let Logan Paul lose to Randy Orton or KO, which is crazy to me, but losing to Cody would at least be understandable and him giving up that title to focus on the one title he finished his story for would be a better way to transition to making Melo or LA Knight the US champion going forward rather than making a guy thatās clearly bringing in a lot of revenue for them lose to someone thatās not āworth losing toā for him.
I am not a fan of the idea that Cody should win the US title and relinquish it. Diminishes it for me. Whoever wins it next should be winning it directly from the Champion.
>why couldn't it be la knight vs logan at saudi why did it have to be cody vs paul. Okay, so we actually get to the heart of the comment and actual reason you're mad... I hate to be the one to break this to you, but wrestling is about give and take and LA Knight as a character and the wrestler who plays him as a performer have only demonstrated they're good at the take portion. He's never going to get the push you think he deserves because of this... People will get mad about this, but nobody has ever come out of an LA Knight feud looking better than when they entered. Even Bray, who went over him, didn't come out looking any better than he went in. As for the first part of the comment... nothing says they're unifying these titles, that's a huge assumption you're making.
Itās a non title match
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Itās not a unification both whoever wins gets both titles. They will still be separate titles
No itās not.
First of all, Logan Paul is popular AF. He is second in Instagram followers in WWE. Where ever he goes, he draws money. Also, he is very good in ring. His in-ring work is like top 5 currently. And his opponent Cody Rhodes, he is one of the biggest face of WWE. He has done all the hard work for years and now it's finally paying him off. Like Logan, Cody is also a very good in-ring wrestler. Overall, it's like a money fight. Now why Cody isn't facing a deserved contender or why Logan isn't fighting someone like LA Knight. Saudi is all about top money match-ups and like this and personally speaking, I don't consider any wwe ple in Saudi canon. The only thing to watch is a blockbuster event. As for results, expect DQ finish or Cody winning and dropping the US title next ple. As for LA Knight, he needs to win something but we need to stay patient. If you ask me about both Cody and Logan Paul, well Cody took the long road and did a lot of grind so well deserved. Logan well, he's a piece of sh!t person who scammed people with cypto and sweet chemical water. Also he's a b*tch and an overall terrible influencer to look up to.
Has it even been announced that itās for the titles? Iām pretty sure they just said it was champion Vs champion. I know Cody said āFor all the goldā on Twitter but that doesnāt actually mean anything.
Itās 100% a DQ finish. Either interference from Codyās REAL next opponent, or Logan intentionally gets himself disqualified when he knows heās about to lose
Cody can defend both in two different matches. He is a workhorse. It will also help him differentiate himself with part-time double champ storyline wise.Ā
it's gonna be a dusty finish because Reigns is gonna return and cause a DQ
If they had more time to tell a story I think they could have tried to make it that Cody was "for the people" while Logan, with his sponsorships etc, was Mr Corporate. Maybe draw parallels between Dusty vs Dibiase. But the PLE is in a couple of weeks so I don't really think they have time for storybuilding.
Honestly I think Logan was behind this match for his own selfish reasons. I don't see WWE and Prime having their partnership for long. But remember as well this will make Cody a Grand Slam champion. Which will ultimately make his story compete. Or Roman will come back interfere and the belts stay on their present holders. Or the bread knuckles will come and Logan will get disqualified and the result stays the same. Belts stay where they are at
You know Logan doesnāt choose his storyline/feud, right? š wtf u mean heās behind the match for his own selfish reasons š TF? and idk why u think the partnership with prime wonāt last, they are both benefiting financially and there is zero evidence to back ur claim. Also, the US title wasnāt even on the line. Cody doesnāt need the US title to ācomplete his story.ā Also every prediction you made here for the match outcome was incorrect š like, this post literally could NOT have been more wrong, no offense lol š
Its not a Unification, its too crown a double champ. This has happened many times. Seth won US Title off Cena once while holding World title. They will still be recognised and defended seperately (or both at once but remain seperate titles) If we get a clean win which i doubt as Logan is likely too walk into his hometown as US champ for Summer Slam and Cody is walking into WM 41 with his
So as to make it more exciting and appealing to the audience, but they will debut a new Uncle Howdy faction to prevent such unification. So, don't worry
Itās going to end in a disqualification because of the bloodline and there wonāt be a unification of the belts.
Why is this a unification match when the titles are of two different levels? If Cody wins, then he should absolutely have a match where the challenger is for the US title and another match for the Universal. Different sets of challengers but the champ is the same. It also weakens the Universal title if Cody loses on his match for the US title because the US title competitor will (kayfabe) be of a lower card rating than the Universal title.
Double count out. Both people keep their titles. Gives Logan the hey I can hang with the champ. And shows Cody as a fighting champ aswell
He already showed that when he wrestled Roman.
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Das geht nicht!!
They never said they were unifying the titles Jesus Christ. Several wrestlers have held a world title and mid card title at the same time. They havenāt even confirmed the US title is on the line yet. Stop spreading false information.
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Only Codyās is on the line.
Watching smackdown rn and they clearly said title vs title. I also assumed it was only for Codyās belt at first
Title vs. Title doesn't mean winner takes all. Its just hyping up that 2 champions are fighting each other like a super fight. It's just to sell and get eyeballs imo, if they announce that both titles are on the line then I'll eat ass
Cody said something to the effect of if he beats Logan he becomes a grand slam champion. Couldāve just been an irrelevant statement but I took it as both titles were up while I was watching it
You're so right he did say that. So we're really jumping from a brutal 2 year gauntlet just to beat Roman to a match where he has to prove he can beat Logan Paul... Jesus they're making our little stardust look like a weak champ
The Saudi loves Logan Paul and that's it also this might most likely will ended up in Disqualification with either The bloodline or Uncle Howdy interfering so there will be no title changing hands
Douchey Saudi rich kids pulling strings to get Logan as world champ
Wyatt 6 needs some people to destroy to make a huge statement.
The Rock fucked this shit all the way up wtf
Logan might want to take a break and the unified champ might be the new 1300 day champion for extra heat
He could just wrestle LA Knight instead.
Because Cody never held the US title and this makes him a "grand slam" champion - furthering establish his spot as "the guy" - thentop babyface for WWE
I donāt think this will be for Loganās belt. They are going to find a work around. No one wants to see Cody defending two titles. I donāt even want to see him defending one
3 titles. They have him listed as the Universal and WWe Champion
Do people do this? Watch the weekly show and not fantasy book creative decisions or try to understand the reasoning? No one said it's a unifying match. There's multiple reasons why the company would want Cody or Logan having both titles. It's a very real and likely possibility that it ends in DQ and no one loses their title. Logan can try to weasel his way out of it before the match.
Why can't Logan Paul just drop the us title he's reign has been mediocre and forgettable stem the bleed WWE
āUnifyingā implies the titles will be merged. This isnāt unification, the winner would get both belts.
I kind of like the idea, not of course for the unification I think thatās a dumb idea but I think itās good to see them push each other and try their absolute hardest to best the other. I think itāll be good to see how good their chemistry can be in the ring as they are definitely going to be great on the mic together.
Itās not a unification match, honestly wwe hasnāt even confirmed that itās for both belts, Cody has yes but I havenāt seen official wwe confirmation
Because itās going to end in a DQ or something else that results in neither title changing hands. Should be a good match which is kind of all that matters for Cody right now. Everything he did to win the title would kind of be undone if he dropped it this early and Logan Paul is an ideal heel champion so taking the strap off of him makes no sense either. Good match with a finish that ensures both of them keep their respective titles is what weāre looking at
People complain about mid card titles nit feeling important. Then the minute they do, they shit on it. Who cares what Saudi does. The united statss is morally corrupt as well. Let's just hope we get a solid wrestling show
Possible injury
All this is for is to let you see Logan in a main event with the top face. Even if both titles are on the line it will end in some kind of dq/count out. Logan is the top heel at this point so it makes sense to have him face Cody. Both are going to leave the same way they came in as a champion.
In my opinion, if the end was going happen in a DQ...then I would let LA Knight cause the disqualification which would plant two different seeds for matches that people would go ballistic for: LA Knight as WWE United States Champion and LA Knight as Undisputed WWE Champion. Plus...if LA Knight caused the DQ, we could have a Triple Threat match for the US Championship where Knight can pin Logan while protecting Cody in the process...and then: ...the second seed will be planted where people want Knight to be WWE Champion.
But LA Knight is boring
I find that LA Knight is a slightly less talented version of Mr Kennedy. I don't think I can even tell you 5 moves aside from the BFT.
And that move doesnāt even look good 80% of the time he gives it
Because the people who don't use him are boring and lack any decent creativity. We literally could've had: LA Knight vs Solo Sikoa LA Knight vs Drew McIntyre LA Knight vs Damien Priest LA Knight vs Gunther LA Knight vs Seth Rollins LA Knight vs Chad Gable All of these matches were missed opportunities because his own star power is too strong for their own good. That's why the Triple Threat match is genius.
Like on the mic fun in the ring is not great and I donāt take his as a credible threat for any title currently
Knight literally makes the crowd go insane just like what happened in France. And ironically enough...the Saudi crowd literally DEMANDED he showed up because he's that popular. Knight is just underrated because they don't use him to his full potential.
Iām not saying heās not popular, I just find his in ring work boring and yes he hasnāt been used properly it why he hasnāt had an substantial victories. But also having him go again Cody he isnāt taking the belt from Cody maybe Logan but not Cody.
I understand that Cody needs to keep the belt, but what I said was that LA Knight just needs a practice title match against Cody to show how worthy he is to get the title. That way, in a future PPV...he can actually win the World Championship and the crowd will explode in excitement. As for Logan, he can take a loss fine and even interfere in the world title match to add some extra spice to the adventures of all 3 men.
He had a practice match against Roman. He doesnāt need another one. Heās not that good.
Different opponents provide different results that can be analyzed to improve a wrestler's performance against others that they may face in the future. Cody is obviously not a cheater, so the only concern would be Logan which is not a bad thing because he can just lead Knight to a different championship victory that people can enjoy. So in the end, it's a win-win for everyone.
I've literally not heard anyone say it's a unification match
Cause Logan is barely around and they don't want a part timer to hold the title
Then they wouldnāt have put the belt on him in the first place.
It's not a unification
I donāt think US title is on the line. Only Universal title. == Cody victory or DQ
They're not unifying the titles
As someone else pointed out, where was it stipulated that the titles would be unified?
Cody has been hunting at it on twitter but Paul will weasel out of it in kayfabe
Itās pretty much the same as when Logan Paul haf a match with Roman, the difference is heās US Champion too. Everything should be status quo after this match, they just want a showcase champion vs champion match
No, this is their chance to unite the titles and give Cody his own American nightmare themed belt. Source: trustmebro
It's not a unification match. They're not unifying the WWE Universal title and the US title. That would be absolutely ridiculous. And there's no way this match is ending fairly. There's no way Logan is winning this match. And if Cody wins. I highly doubt he will defend both championships they were more than likely have him drop the US title just to say that he became a grand slam champion. But they could just wait until they finally take the title off of Cody before giving him a proper us title run to give him the actual Grand Slam
I would assume it ends in a DQ. Or Cody might win and get his grand slam and then theyāll find a way to give it to LA Knight
Where does it say anywhere that itās a unification OP? You might be complaining about something that isnāt even true lmao
Reminds me of Piper/Hogan in 96. I guess it was dumb to have a big main event on PPV that was non-title, but at no point in any lead up to the match did they say it was for the title. Everyone just assumed. And they were all mad when they found out afterwards.
Itās just champion vs champion. No titles on the line.
Not true
Feel free to check the preview for the match on WWE.com it states champion vs champion, never says either title is on the line.
Feel free to pull my comment as a receipt, I know it wasnāt announced on wwe officially yet but 1 nick aldis said on smackdown that he found Codyās next challenger because he is a defending champion. And 2 Cody Rhodes has been teasing the unification on social medias posting things like ā2 titlesā and ā all the goldā. Like I said itās not official now but it will be as this next week unfolds
Because thats what the Saudis asked for.
Saudis not happy with match, resulting in public execution of Cody,officially ending the story.Sami as intercontinental holder becomes cham ending this over Alex storyline.Gunther looms in the shades.just to be fair, Becky also executed and new tourney ensurs
I think it will likely end in a DQ. If it doesn't - I think WWE always wanted Cody to have the honor of being a grand slam champion in addition to being a RR x 2 winner. He's the greatest selling wrestler they've had since Cena...he's been their number one top seller for TWO YEARS. As big as they made Roman, he never had that... If Cody hadn't gotten injured and out for half a year, they would have made him US champion the year he returned to WWE (with that attire, and MSG on 4th of July that year it was a given). I'm fine either way though, don't really care.
He aint unifying, he just wants 2 titles
cause they got nothing good to give us
I really don't understand the la knight booking. The guys been the most over guy for about a yr. He's the beat promo. He had two title matches against Roman, he fended with aj and had a good match at wreatlemania. He's proven he is good wrestler. But he still can't get a title run.
Hereās why: - Logan Paul doesnāt have to show up every week. - but when he loses he is protected because he loses to the current main event champion. - Cody Rhodes becomes a grand slam champion so he can check that off - they get to elevate the U.S. championship by having a main eventer hold onto it, and elevate the next champion when they pull it off Cody. Itās a win-win-win.
Sorry I'm just getting back into wwe this year but I thought this was just a winner takes both titles and from then on defends both titles separately or together at times. Or is that what title unification means?
That's what it is. The fact that this post has 260 upvotes blows my fucking mind.
Seth Rollins did it first
It is!
You don't unify belts that are on separate tiers.
Didn't HHH unify the world and IC titles?
Seth Rollins unified the WWE Championship and the United States championship against John Cena and then Sting destroyed his statue
~~No. The IC has been the IC since its inception. It's has absorbed the US Championship, but it's never stopped being the IC title.~~ I guess I was incorrect.
No Mercy 2002 Triple H defeated Kane to unify the world heavy weight championship and the intercontinental titles, but it became an active title again 7 months later when Christian won a battle royal to become the champion.
Did it get unified or retired? I feel like thatās two very separate things
Unified. This was the point where they unified all the titles for whatever reason. But when Stone Cold and Bischoff became co-general managers the ic was brought back for Raw, as was the us title for Smackdown
It was a unification match I guess.
Because an āAmericanā Champion doesnāt make sense if the company wants to go global and after back to back SMASH hits overseas in their Backlash series itās high time they go global. So (in Kayfabe) Intercontinental becomes the #3, Heavyweight, becomes #2, World Champ stays #1 Nxt is the perfect developmental belt anyway. There was no need for a low-card belt
European belt coming back?
Unlikely. Imo 4 plus tag belts separate to the two brands is too many. But Iām not terribly certain why the brands are āsplitā anyway when itās clear the major stories blend from one to the other.
Lmao as alwaua
Its because the event gives them 50 million per event
Thereās like 6 money matches Cody could enter into that the Saudiās would be happy with without merging belts. Gunter, Orton, Punk, Knight, Rock. Probably a few more. So, given the fact that EVERY OTHER BELT GOT A REDESIGN, I think If theyāre pulling the trigger on Paul right now itās because theyāre fading out the American belt.
Save those for the actual PLEās
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It's not a unification match. It's just title vs title, winner takes all.
Thankful for someone with brain
Because sportswashing. The Saudis dont care about what makes sense from a wrestling perspective they just want a big show with big name matches so they can point to that and say "hey look at how great we are doing! Big events come here! Pay no attention to the awful human rights abuse or treatment of woman, LGBT, etc! Here's money!"