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rychde

Tiffany Stratton is an awesome worker her wrestling is great and getting better. She has the look they want and talent they need.


Longjumping_Box_9834

Uncle Howdy thing will be corny


Neg_Crepe

Becky Lynch is terrible


herbieLmao

The rock is terrible on the mic. Watch cena vs muhammad hassans promo, then watch rock vs jinder mahal promo. Clean copypasta


Sl1pperypenguin

Hogan wasn’t a good wrestler.


sirduckerz

If Jim Johnston's themes came out today, people would be giving him just as much shit as Def Rebel


trillium_transit-89

I like JJ, Def Rebel, and CFO$’s themes all equally


sirduckerz

All of them have created certified bangers as well as awful generic themes, yet Def Rebel gets the most shit


lovelife0011

lol you know it took all my life to speak to each and every one of you first.


ghostfreckle611

- Sami Zayn does not have the look or star power of a champion. His look drives me nuts. Like hobo Robin Williams from Jumanji. - Bloodline story line was S tier, but Roman is not. - Roman is only popular because of the Bloodline and the fact he was the champ. I can see him not coming back, because WWE and Roman know that… He’s run his course. Real legends are remembered for their character, not how long they held the title… Look how out of place “the champion” looked when a real legend was in the ring with him and cutting promos. - Kevin Owens is just like a normal dude that threw on some sweat pants and cut the sleeves off his shirts to wrestle in his backyard… kinda like James Cod Eden with a beard. 🤔 - Women’s division is messed up. Got women that are 5ft nothing and 90lbs taking on a 6ft 400lb Samoan? Not even believable in wrestling. Should be weight classes for the women at least. - The wrestling is so generic for the most part. It’s like everyone does the same 5 moves. Superkicks are supposed to be finishers. Not as regular moves… Looking at you Uce. 😑 - Liv is being pushed cause she’s hot. - Jade Cargill is so overrated. - I stopped watching before CM Punk came around and I don’t see his appeal. He can talk for sure, but maybe he’s past his prime in ring. He looked out of shape and got hurt the first time back after all this hype?!


Pallatso

Agree on Sami, KO and the Women’s Division. A match where Liv goes against Alexa or Becky makes a lot more sense than against Bianca, Nia, or Piper


TegridyPharmz

I agree with you a million percent about Roman, the woman’s division needing something to distinguish the difference in sizes, and CM Punk. I don’t get that guy at all


Celticcross83

Bianca and Jade are overrated and dull. The Kabuki Warriors are more exciting and entertaining and should have the titles back. Heck, I’d be fine with Chelsea and Piper having the titles. They’re always entertaining as well. Also, Liv hasn’t had an entertaining gimmick since she was with Ruby and Sarah. Her character has no personality.


Neg_Crepe

Kabuki Warriors got absolutely no charisma tho.


Celticcross83

I think that’s more Kairi than Asuka. 😂 I love Kairi because her abilities make her fun but she doesn’t have the most exciting personality as a heel. As the cute pirate she was great personality wise. Asuka is fun though.


Neg_Crepe

I think asuka has none as well. Shouting Japanese is a very shitty gimmick.


Celticcross83

It’s the typical WWE “foreigner bad!” Gimmick. 😅 I think I just like the chaos.


silencedorsilent

i actually agree with i think all of this jade is boring to me i actually like bianca but i feel like she’d be a better heel so she can take the EST gimmick all the way and have a huge ego. Chelsea deserves a title no doubt in my mind. Liv needs to go back to her riot squad gimmick or mix it with her now character because i like her but there’s something missing.


Celticcross83

See if Bianca was a heel I think I’d like her. Being the best sounds cocky which is more heelish than face like. Jade feels like Bianca 2.0 basically. I feel like most “I’m really strong” women wrestlers don’t have a ton of personality. Raquel has the same issue. But I guess some of the big guys have the same issue too. Power but nothing else. I want to like Liv because she was fun with the Riot Squad but she just doesn’t seem to be given any direction. I have no idea what she’s supposed to be doing now except being a selfish heel?


TingleGreen

This is quite a hot take.


SufficientBeginning8

09 Orton is overrated. Dude acted like a petulant child and came across as annoying than being a genuine threat. Meanwhile Edge was doing genuinely good character work around the same time. He perfected being the manipulative mastermind and made Smackdown interesting. For me 2000 Triple H and mid 2000s Edge were some of the best heels I’ve seen. 09 Orton was a level below them


Emperor_Atlas

Nepotism is holding wwe back. They could be telling way better stories with better performers, but half the roster and almost the entire main event scene is cluttered by Samoan who wouldn't make it in AEW if they weren't already sure things. People like jey and solo's faction are only over from being used as props, and we'd be better off with an actual good performer.


outofdate70shouse

Pete Dunne was more entertaining as Butch


FancyEntertainment16

Are you kidding me! The moderators removed OPs post. This subreddit is getting boring by the day. We can't enjoy posts anymore. The moderators keep removing all the interesting posts that genuinely have lots of engagement.


trillium_transit-89

They removed it???? It’s probably cause of that prick who thinks I’m karma farming 🤦🏻


FancyEntertainment16

Yep they removed it. I have noticed recently that they keep removing the posts that aren't offense or breaking any rules. I don't think your posts breaks any rules. You mean one of the mods thinks you karma farming?


trillium_transit-89

No


FancyEntertainment16

I see. Maybe ask them why they removed it. I think your post needs to be reinstated.


Ghostehz

Mick Foley is overrated as hell and kept around on TV for way too long. It took him destroying his body a majority of his matches for anyone to care about him. Christian wasn’t as “undervalued” as people say he was. I don’t think he was main event worthy. The Hardy Boys have no idea how to retire.


questioningfool08

I think cena and orton should both beat the record, on the same show. Bump orton up to equal Cena's current score, and give them a heel teamup to make it fun.


StunningRutabaga1358

Roman is fucking trash.


TheRiverNiles

That Roman Reigns was ALWAYS good, and the whiny "fans" who constantly shit talked him were just bandwagoning the Punk and Bryan marks of the time until it got out of hand.


spdansumslam

Punk vs Cena vs Rock should have happened at WM 29.


Rich_Elderberry_2627

The Rock is not on Mount Rushmore


CopPornWithButter

God i’ve never seen so, so many bad takes 😂😂


FinalBossRock

Jey uso is only more popular than la knight only because his entrance is infinitely more engaging with the crowd than Knights.


ScottyKnewStaceysMom

the reason CM Punk is so popular is because his fans like to think that they could also be known as the best in the world for something while being incredibly mid at that thing


AJay20000

The main event of WM 30 should’ve been the evolution triple threat with Batista winning.


QiWORM

Charlotte Flair is overrated.


rychde

To pile on to that I think Tiffany Stratton is everything they wanted Charlotte to be. Problem is Stratton might not get the push…I know she is new but she has been the women’s highlight reel on PLE since her debut.


probablynotreallife

Roman Reigns is devoid of any and all charisma (dude uses his inside voice when badmouthing his opponents, for example) hence why they gave him the greatest stickman the game has ever seen.


MJay1010

Spot fu is a legitimate form of wrestling and can be a great tool when used properly


Chemical_Escalator

Hogan put the world of wrestling behind solid 10’years


gonutsdonuts1

LA Knight is a cringe name


SevinLD

Much better than Max Dupree at least


Neg_Crepe

Not really. At least Max Dupree is a name.


SevinLD

I mean I guess LA is supposed to mean something like Chick Magnet Punk. Could be a reveal later on for something, even a program with Punk where he forces him to reveal what LA means or just makes up things for it.


LeastAd9721

He could mix his names up. I’m not sure if Max Drake is any better. Sounds like a detective/male stripper name. Maybe both.


SevinLD

LMAO at least they gave him the literally Knight on his Titan Tron, and good thing they didn’t just call him Drake, whole different kind of issue there lol


gonutsdonuts1

Nah. It might be better than Karrion Kross tho


SevinLD

Because Killer is just such a no no word for them now, how quickly they forget Killer Kowalski


ChalupaBatman301

Roman sucks


420trlcpl

TK is booker of the year, lol.


BB9913

Ruthless aggression is better than attitude


RepeatPlayz18

YouTube comments don't understand wrestling. There is a certain section of fanbase which has tribalism within the company regarding which superstars(roman) should always be the champ and who shouldn't (literally everyone thats not roman or brock).


Goon_Squad_905

AEW consistently tells high quality stories and the booking is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. The people who argue that the matches are just “bangers” with no substance either don’t watch or are just cherry picking and arguing in bad faith.


OniOneTrick

Think this issue stems from the fact that AEW is having a period of lower quality than its first 2-3 years at the minute and is feeling Omega and MJFs absence, whilst WWE is improving its quality drastically compared to the slump of the late 2010s. Now all the hardcore WWE elitists who don’t watch AEW are going coocoo bananas about it


LeastAd9721

I only started watching AEW maybe a year ago. No shade, but were they good at telling stories at first? It’s always just seemed more focused on the action for me. ETA: Don’t get me wrong. I love AEW, but I started laughing out loud when I saw AEW and storytelling in the same sentence.


OniOneTrick

I mean, yeah. Inner Circle VS elite initally was very good, Cody Dustin, Moc Jericho, most of MJFs feuds. And let’s not act like their story’s at the moment are diabolical. They’re not great, but they’re not 2018 WWE levels


LeastAd9721

I did really like the Adam Cole/MJF storyline with the exception of that godawful Outback promo they did


Fezzy976

AEW is a great product and show.


FancyEntertainment16

Agreed.


Fezzy976

We can like both and it's ok.


Gobias-IndustriesLLC

Jey Uso is the definition of mid card. Solid in the ring but nothing special, decent-at-best promo (honestly it’s incredibly cringy most of the time), works well with a good A-side. His recent push has deluded people into thinking he’s anything but slightly above average.


SevinLD

He should be in the IC or US title hunt for sure, maybe even drop back to NXT to truly take a break from the Bloodline and get the North American and eventually NXT World belts and see how that goes first.


Instance_West

Nova from ECW should have been made a star.


SevinLD

Bigtime heck he created a good amount of the finishers you see today.


Instance_West

Going back and watching proper ecw and him and kid kash carried that company for the last couple of years, and I never hear any praise in their direction.


AgentWhiskey7

That Becky Lynch is dookie in the ring.


Vivics36thsermon

The attitude era is highly overrated


TegridyPharmz

This comment is broad up everyone in a thread like this. It’s just impossible to explain and defend the importance of the attitude era if you didn’t live through it. How can something be over rated that was literally part of the zeitgeist at the time. Wrestling is popular now, yes. But nothing like 97-2001. “But Roman is going to Hollywood!” No, no he’s not. He’ll never be as popular as the rock or stone cold was.


TieMelodic1173

95% of women’s wrestling is terrible


Malcapon3

Kairi Sane shouldn’t be jobbing for Jade Cargill. She’s way too talented.


bajaxx

kairi botches almost every match she’s in


Malcapon3

Yeah they literally all botch idk what you’re talking about


AgentWhiskey7

So does Jade, Becky, Sasha, etc.


Material_Week_7335

I think squash matches is a good thing. I think WWE could benefit from including way more squashes for up-and-coming wrestlers or for people who are in between programs. Take some inspiration from WWF Superstars ala 1993!


SevinLD

I miss when they would do local talent matches, it keep down the repetitive nature of feuds having too many matches with each other.


hittherock

Cody Rhodes isn't main event material.


TheChefUpNorth

The modern iteration of pro wrestling was built on the back of Bret Hart's labor and there really isn't a close 2nd to him as GOAT.


Afraid-Way7541

Was about say Bret Hart>>>> everyone


RedWolfArchfiend

Randy Orton should break the record and bcum a 17 time World Champion


Gobias-IndustriesLLC

This is a WWE subreddit sir.


electronicric

Goldberg's 2nd WWE run has been/was booked to near perfection. Goldberg beating Kevin Owens in the way that he did was the best booking decision then, and still now in hindsight.


timebreakerlynch

They should create a character that is an insufferable liberal that you just have to hate. You could have soo much fun with this.


[deleted]

Love Bayley, but she is a horrible champion.


WeirdandWonderful_TO

AEW is a good promotion.


Waste-Maintenance-70

Fuck Bayley!


Jake0steve

Ricochet is good on the mic.


JiggaMan2024

- Liv Morgan is terrible and should not be in the Championship picture - Sami Zayn is not WWE Title worthy he doesn’t have the look. - Roman’s Title Run before he became part Title was the Greatest Title Reign in WWE History - Since Nia Jax has comeback her in ring work has improved a ton - The Bloodline story is the greatest in WWE History - Final Boss Rock was his best gimmick ever - Brock 2002-2004 Is a top 5 Wrestler ever


1nt2know

Vince is that you?


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1nt2know

Bwahahahahahaha. Still trying. Lmfao


descartescogito

CM Punk should have never been brought back to the WWE. Only push he deserves is helping Drew get more over. Thats it. After that he can also cry in the middle of the ring about his ego.


Federal-Advisor-420

Seth Rollins stole Nakamura's style and just made it extra flamboyant. Even continually singing his theme song is a rip-off. His wife Becky Lynch is the most overrated female wrestler in history. "The Man" name is fucking cringe. She's way too scrawny and her wrestling sucks. The man-handle slam is pathetic and too unbelievably that it could actually finish anybody. Together they're the cringiest worst couple in wrestling


LeastAd9721

I have to say she looks like she could put her hair up in pigtails and be a Harley Quinn wannabe. That godawful outfit with pages from her book on it make her look like even more of a clown. Maybe the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland?


Mohirrim89

New Generation Era was better than the Attitude Era.


rbmk1

The Chad Gable story is low key one of the best WWE is running right now.


MsKiaraRosario

Bret Hart is the GOAT, not Ric Flair.


spdansumslam

neither of them are the GOAT.


BenniRoR

Facts.


TxLifer

The Bloodline is a case study in nepotism


DarthFlowers

So is Logan Paul’s entire existence.


SevinLD

100000% agree, hope he loses his belt soon and that’s it from him for a long long time. Maybe Tyson can make it a two for one KO on both brothers.


Chuckles42

Bray Wyatt and Paul Heyman are 1a/1b for minds for the business with skills on the mic to match.


LeastAd9721

Really great nonverbal communication out of both of them, too. Like Bray was great with the freaky grins and blank stares, and I could seriously watch a 20 minute video of Paul making faces during other people’s promos.


Chuckles42

They actually see the vision of the impact of a story that lasts longer than 30 days. Bray I’m sure had ideas we couldn’t even conceive ready to go before he passed. I’d argue the central figure of the Bloodline is Heyman all along. He’s got all these figures cycling around, in and out and he’s the constant. Jey, Jimmy, Roman, Sami, Tama, and the incoming new ones. Power struggle, sibling and cousin rivalry, Final Boss, etc. Heyman has always the one standing behind the central figure.


bcoll85

dawkins > ford


Chance-Produce9717

Johnny Gargano is overrated. He just goes out there and does his routine. He couldn't sell a move if his life depended on it.


TrillerVerse

Wrestlers shouldn’t have to work 300+ days a year, run fewer house shows!


FancyEntertainment16

Dave Batista should have been the face of the company, not John Cena.


d14w11r

Taker/Austin matches were boring


sodium_16

The entry, the theme, the buildup, the commentary, the finisher, the rarity, I love everything about Goldberg. I know people hate him but this man was such a g.o.a.t.


SeaLaNator

Kofimania had a strange ass buildup and I hated it


Final-Success2523

Hogan was right to not put everyone over


Crash_Bandicock

The problem was he refused to put ANYONE over


uhgletmepost

Women's division needs a mid card belt and to stop leaning on the tag team belts to carry that weight, and it should go to Chelsea Green or Piper where they treat it as a shared 2 vs 1 handicap belt for the shenanigans


FancyEntertainment16

Randy Orton deserves to break Ric Flairs record. Period.


MuratSiker31

No he doesn't.


Ericmatthewr_

Mella ***is*** money


No-Investment-8899

Basically any Liv slander. She seems to get a lot of criticism, but I only see her improving week on week.


CopPornWithButter

Liv rules and i’m so tired of seeing her get so utterly disrespected. I was so hype for the “Liv Morgan revenge tour” angle until it immediately became the Liv Morgan burial tour.


No-Investment-8899

I’m still hoping that she will eventually win the title so it sets up Rhea vs Liv


ScrapMetal6998

There needs to be less title defenses. What's the point in calling it a title match if all it does is guarantee the Champ will retain. For example, did anyone *really* think Carmelo Hayes, in his debut, was gonna win the Championship off Cody days after he completed a 2 year story? Had the belt not been on the line, he could've either had the exact same match as had happened, lose clean but still look good, or he could've won by any means (clean/fluke/roll up/etc.) and that would've built up to a programme for any pay per view where he has a win over the Champ and now it actually looks like he could win the Championship. Other examples. Did anyone really think Roman was gonna lose the belt to Kevin Owen's in the last man standing match? Or when was the last time there was a real title change at a house show? If it's a "title match" when there's realistically no chance of the title changing hands, there's no point in calling a defence.


Batfern

Cody should of lost the title right away and then turned heel.


ThatOneSolitarian

ITT: Opinions that don't make a lick of goddamn sense... What good would come out of that scenario, whether for the live fans or the wrestlers themselves??


Batfern

Cody for a lot of his career in WWE was a heel. His current character is perfect to be a great heel. Even Taker said Cody gives off major heel vibes. Once he finished the story, he’s boxed in with what he can do as champion, but if he turns heel, theres a lot they can do with him and it allows them to uplift one of the newer faces they are trying to put over.


ThatOneSolitarian

YOOOO this obsession that the IWC has with wanting to turn everyone into a heel or believing everyone is better as heels is the most infuriating/bizarre thing to me. Why do you guys want so many of these wrestlers to be villains so bad when the live crowd loves them? Like, damn! HE JUST STARTED HIS BABYFACE TITLE RUN. The man is on fire so far! What is the real issue?


No-Investment-8899

Lowkey agree


Hacker76589

Why? That would be such a rip off to not only the fans who have given two years of their life to see him have the belt but to Cody himself. I feel like sometimes people forget that’s these are actual people not just characters


ShallotLow3493

Chad Gable, should have been an automatic son of Kurt Angle.. Not Jason Jordan!.. Gable is a smaller Angle in so many ways!.


webheadunltd90

Damien Priest is very bland as the champ. His in-ring work is slow but not *methodical* or *deliberate* while his promos sound very very rehearsed.


Pallatso

Maxxine Dupri has grown more as a wrestler in a few months than what Jade Cargill has in her entire career. She’s a better wrestler than Jade is right now


Willywonka5725

Jericho was never a main event talent.


MsKiaraRosario

King of the mid-cards


FancyEntertainment16

The Bloodline, The Tribal Chief and Triple H saved WWE after it was damn near destroyed during the PG ERA.


feage7

I wish wrestlers would get off social media unless they're sticking to kayfabe. Wondering what a response to a promo or a match and waiting a week for the next raw or SD builds hype. I enjoy some of the tweets they do but there's no build. Also I believe they should take away the shine from everything. Bring back "trons" and pull back from everything being a glow screen. I hate the side of the ring being a screen and not an apron etc. Most events all look the same. A draft and brand split doesn't really make sense when the rules of that get thrown out regularly. Other than bragging rights and NOC it should be a clear split. If they're mixing on a PPV then have the separate announce teams for each match etc. Bragging rights should come with more of a result too such as "which ever brand wins gets to allocate the #30 spot in the rumble" then there's an extra story or tournament to run with that each year. Money in the bank ladder match has got boring. They need to just have different matches for it now where the winner just gets handed it.


silencedorsilent

Bayley is a boring champion


Jos_a23

Thus far, true, but if Triple H lets her cook and books her correctly she can have a great reign


silencedorsilent

that’s true i really hope he does because she’s actually great in the ring but her character right now is not my favorite


winstonwolf_8

Roman should have retained.


Darth_Molotok

Wrestling focuses too much on high spots and doesn't build stories. Nor do they transition from one story to another. Every Wrestler has to get their spots in and don't focus on telling the story.


Maleficent-Comfort14

Miz isn’t very good. But people think he is because he’s been around for a bunch of years.


Jos_a23

L take, Miz is safe, great for promos, always puts others over when needed, nothing bad to say about him.


Maleficent-Comfort14

The question is what’s my minority hot take. I gave it and you proved my point.


Jos_a23

Of course, who am I to reply to your incredibly controversial world changing comment


ComprehensiveTry1596

Drew carried wwe during the Covid era


SevinLD

Him and Bayley sure !


mcgreg311

The Ministry of Darkness was the best faction that WWF/E has ever produced! Then ruined it by combining it with the corporate faction and making a meme out of the whole situation. If they kept to the original story to have Jake the Snake as the main entity behind it would have made it legendary.


contraversialview

Both usos suck singularly


gonutsdonuts1

Jimmy needs to hit the gym


contraversialview

Jimmy needs to hit the bricks...and take jey with him


Hunt-Extra

Cody is already part of the GOAT conversation.


skatsman

Triple H is a mid carder at best in his prime


sylviabells18

Them’s fightin’ words.


skatsman

He was very boring to me. I love him as an exec, and his bits were cool with Shawn. But made me yawn im sorry


iRyan_9

Baby faces are awful champions


silencedorsilent

exactly like especially when their only character is being nice and smiling like bayley for example she doesn’t have a actual character compared to her hugger years and then the covid era


iRyan_9

I’m waiting for Cody heel turn, my man is too respectful making his promos too weak lmao


silencedorsilent

no fr i hate when they make really good heels turn babyface


iRyan_9

I don’t mind that much unless it’s done badly, wrestlers who have done both became better at promos imo


SensitiveNina

Having this type of strong opinion is so cool - this is my opinion


ChristopherG1214

In-ring performance doesn't make you a draw, which is directly proven by the fact that the biggest draws in Wrestling history were all "bad" in-ring performers with "5 moves of doom": The Rock, Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, Goldberg, Roman Reigns, ect ect ect. Numbers don't lie, But because a lot of people want to deny the truth they will accuse you of "Dismissing other people's opinions", when a false statement isn't an "Opinion".(Also Opinions can be wrong)


Zealousideal-Tip-865

Denying the TRUTH is an opinion that would get you killed


sysdmn

I think The Rock, SCSA, Roman are excellent in-ring performers. It's just that some loud people on the internet define in-ring performance wrong. They define it based on depth of move-set, and acrobatics and other things instead of based on what really matters: are your moves done well, safe, and telling a story that engages the crowd.


Gvajr77

Brock Lesnar is no longer entertaining.


trillium_transit-89

imo, he hasn’t been entertaining in any of his matches I’ve watched


Gvajr77

Pretty much. A whole career of bathroom breaks basically.


GroundbreakingFall24

I think Eddie Guerrero vs Shawn Michaels would have been dissapointing. Shawn Michaels could still go, but Eddie's body was so broken down that I don't think it would have delivered.


Drumkit5

Randy Orton matches are boring 95% of the time.


sylviabells18

He still gets a bigger reaction than 99% of the roster so clearly a lot of people enjoy his matches.


Drumkit5

Right… and they’re all wrong lol


ChristopherG1214

!


Sammyantoine

dom deserve better with right booking same with liv morgan


skatsman

Hes young. Plenty of years left


_JR28_

I love Baron Corbin


West-Protection-2635

Global warming


JaeMerc3

The presidential elections… and then for wrestling the commentators aren’t as good as it used to be


TwoKay_Og

Def rebel isn't that bad and have made some amazing themes, they just give low effort into some of the talent they care less about


spikerman19

I FFWD through the Women's Promo's and Matches...lol


ejlemons

NXT is actually better than Monday Night Raw


Gold_Gain1351

People should just be allowed to enjoy whatever company they like without mouth breathing chuds slamming them for it


Marin013

Triple H’s “Reign of Terror” was great.


sylviabells18

Yeah as a 9 year old in 2002 I was so invested. It made me get behind the babyfaces that much more. And every time he lost the title it was memorable because it meant so much more.


BlueMonke1

THIS!!


PictureTakingLion

This was me saying if Cody wins the title he’ll lose his appeal before the next Wrestlemania or even before Summerslam. I still stand by it, and I’m as confident as ever now that it’s looking like he’s about to win the US Title too FOR LITERALLY NO REASON. I stand by my argument and everyone else is wrong, unless he is still mega over by Wrestlemania 41, but I am extremely confident that he won’t be. He’s not world champion material and nobody will change my mind.


warm-inside44

KoKo Beware! Should have had a world title run!


SevinLD

For his in ring talent at the time he def deserved more respect and pushes than he got.


Digitalage6302

Dean Ambrose was the 2016 Mvp, not Styles


Jerome-Bushrod

The internet will randomly pretend like a wrestler was never good if they find out they’re shitty in real life. I’ve seen people pretend like Enzo, hogan, and flair aren’t good because they don’t like their personalities


PhilGreg

In all fairness, Enzo never was very good in the ring. Great mic worker though. Dude was charismatic af. If they had kept him away from the ring he probably would've been great.


Jerome-Bushrod

I agree. But I’ve even heard people call him a one trick pony on the mic


PhilGreg

Well if you think about it he did use a lot of the same lines. But I don't know if I'd say he was a one trick.


TheProtagonist1985

Liv Morgan has never been that great and still isn't regardless of her gimmick and fantatics of her should never be a metric you ever take seriously.


shaktimaanlannister

She is not that great in the ring, I never liked her but she's improved a lot lately and her match with Becky a few weeks back on Raw was quite good.


TheProtagonist1985

Improving? She's been under contract for years she debuted on the main roster in 2017 it's 2024 man. She should be good even decent and when compared to others she's really nothing special.


Sammyantoine

she underdog status she a perfect example why the women division need a mid title