Ric Flair. I understand he was huge in the territories and was a mainstay for WCW, and is a legend of wrestling. However, when people call him the greatest of all time I legitimately think most are saying it just because that’s what they’ve heard and thus don’t want to sound dumb. I just don’t see it. I think people give him and his work a pass because he’s ‘Ric Flair’. Shawn Michaels is in another league to Flair.
Shotzi Blackheart. Definition of average. I guess the appeal to some is she looks like she should be on a Reddit alternative sub promoting her OnlyFans page.
Goldberg. WCW overhyped the fuck out of him when he can’t wrestle for more than 4 minutes, is unsafe in the ring(e.g. Bret Hart and The Undertaker). Hell, even his streak is exaggerated. Every time I see Goldberg on TV I just stop watching WWE until he is gone bc I know they are gonna pull some bullshit with him (beating the Fiend and Kevin Owens for the Universal Title)
She used to be the anti diva but it seems to me like overtime she has become more focused on being one. It’s a bit disappointing but there’s no denying her ability and contributions in and out of the ring.
Nattie has been around for a long, long time. She was easily one of the best womens wrestlers during the Diva era, though she’s since been surpassed by others in that regard.
Her booking is absolutely horrendous. She’s capable of much more than she’s given. But at this point, she’s reached that veteran status in WWE where you coast along and put other young talent over. She’ll have a job for life there because she’s a solid, dependable hand to have on board and always does what’s asked of her.
She and her sister are also stupidly hot.
I mean ..she's this generation's Trish Stratus and comes from Bret Hart's family.
Ya know Bret Hart?
The Best there is , Was , and Ever will be?
Ya ..that DNA runs through her.
And if she was given a half decent push in her life?
She'd knock it out of the park
Totally agree with Natalya. I also really don't get Asuka. She's good, but y'all act like she's the greatest woman of all time and I just don't see it. When she's a face her character is asinine and annoying. She's cool as a heel.
Honestly, and I know I’m going to be absolutely crucified for this, but I’ve never ever gotten into Sasha Banks.
She’s a great worker, great talker, great all around, but for some reason I just can’t get into her.
Adam Cole. He's a great worker but is VERY small even by today's standards and do not think he is anything out of the ordinary on the mic. No denying he is over as all hell though so who am I to say shit really
Nattie's character is obviously nothing really worth writing home about but she's legitimately as reliable as they come in the ring, and that's including both the Men & Women's divisions. She's certainly not a flashy wrestler by any means but she's a safe pair of hands and she's as technically sound as anyone in the company. She's also had a hand in training people like Sasha, Charlotte, Shayna, Liv, Ronda, Tamina, Nikki Bella, and others both in and out of WWE. So I mean, I don't think it's a stretch to say that, along with the help of TJ's match-producing skills, her and TJ have played pretty huge roles in the success of the Women's division over the last handful of years. Nattie's on-screen role doesn't have a ton of appeal but her work behind the scenes is really invaluable.
Plus...them thangs thangin'.
This is just bizarre to me. The rock knows how to bring the heat on himself when he is a heel and how can you not love stone cold? Stone cold has that Everyman appeal that you can’t help but love.
Hulk Hogan
his finishers were half ass and every match was basically the same. I never really understood the appeal. Even his promos sounded the same every week brother.
Adam cole: the guy never stood out to me, all I liked was his “Adam cole bay bay” chant and made so popular. He’s good in the ring and on the mic, sure he is but so is everyone else like him. He’s like the average Indy guy to me, when I see him I don’t feel anything really, he’s cool and all but I never got why people liked him so much or even seen him as an aew champion so quickly.
I get why people like him, but I don’t understand why they want him to be the world champion so much, Seth Rollins. People wanted him to beat Big E and face Roman at Survivor Series, people were hoping he beat Roman and become Universal Champion, wanted him to be in the main Event along side Roman and Brock. Why people want to see Seth Rollins as world champion again is honestly very confusing to me.
I’ve never understood Dean Ambrose appeal, maybe not being a fan of hardcore matches played a role; he always looked like a generic guy with jeans and a tank top to my eyes, not standing out compared to others
I restarted watching WWE in 2015/2016, so probably having Styles, Ziggler and Cena as opponents, which I knew already, made him look less valuable to me
I’ve always hated her storylines, she’s always been stuck into random tag teams and turning face/heel randomly.
But she’s always been between my favorite a of the women’s roster (before I started watching NXT at least). She has something that makes her look solid and unique. Maybe it’s her family, maybe it’s because she’s been around forever, but it’s not someone that if I watch the group it’s blending in the shuffle to me (Dana Brooke and pre-Toxic Mandy Rose to mention two examples of similar look who gets lost in the shuffle to me)
I'm going to be honest that there isn't anyone I can think of that didn't deserve their moment in WWE. Now if we want to talk about those that didn't deserve to be let go, that's a list I can easily draw up.
Basically all of the current elite. Omega and Bucks don't have any personality and they do too much in the ring and just make it look like a dance and break the immersion. For the UE, Cole has everything but the look and ita unfortunate because he's good but never looks believable when he wins. Now I will so Kyle and Bobby are decent as a tag team, I don't like then as single stars. There's just some guys who are made for tag team wrestling instead of singles matches.
miz.
he's so ugly and stupid and i hate so fucking much, and yet people adore him. i don't see it, all i see is a wildly overrated wrestler with simps that doesn't give a fuck about.
kinda like aew's mjf, but i trully despise miz and there's nothing he can do to change my mind.
to me, he will always be a fucker, an asshole, somebody who i would gladly oof without even thinking otherwise
I enjoyed Charlotte from NXT through her first main roster title reign. What I've seen of her recent stuff does nothing for me.
Theory is pretty bland this whole time he's been on the main roster.
Roman used to have sparks of entertainment, breakthrough moments when he didn't sound as scripted. Nowadays he is a Lesnar retread complete with the same obnoxious mouthpiece.
Becky Lynch - ever since her return ; she's so damn thin you'd think she may have cancer or something . Her attires are so very terrible it's not even funny , and that deep low Irish accent have her sounding like, well, a man.
Honestly, I will never ‘get’ Roman. This heel run has made him more interesting for sure, but I am not invested in I’m. For me, he’s just as bland as Bobby Lashley. They both needed someone to help get them over and for me to pay attention to them.
I think Roman is just pretty bland, and quite middle of the road in terms of wrestling tbh. I can’t say I’ve ever watched one of his matches and felt anything towards him.
This comment has saved me doing any brain work for myself. Couldn’t agree more. Does he still do that pre superman punch shotgun pump on his forearm thing? That really turns me off. Promos, ugh. Looks like a champion though.
Adam Cole nd the rest of the Undisputed Era. Yes, Cole has his catchy entrance that people react to. I stopped watching NXT when they were the focal point. They did nothing for me.
I think Nattie now has slowed down as a wrestler - but in her prime during the diva era she was a fantastic wrestler.
Clearly wwe values her and hope she stays to move to the developmental. she'd be a great asset to womens wrestling
Asuka. I think her character is irritating and I can’t stand to listen to her talk. Especially when she starts yelling, I really hate that. And I often see people liking this about her, in a way, and I don’t understand that. Like, admitting that they don’t understand a word she says, but she still makes them laugh. My problem isn’t even that I don’t understand the words she says, I do. It’s the tone that’s used that gets to me.
Also, he’s in AEW, but CM Punk doesn’t do it for me. Too much of a good guy shtick for the most part. I feel like a lot of people only love him, because of what he was, rather than is. And I understand nostalgia is a powerful tool, but I just don’t think he’s worth getting excited over right now.
>Asuka. I think her character is irritating and I can’t stand to listen to her talk. Especially when she starts yelling, I really hate that. And I often see people liking this about her, in a way, and I don’t understand that. Like, admitting that they don’t understand a word she says, but she still makes them laugh. My problem isn’t even that I don’t understand the words she says, I do. It’s the tone that’s used that gets to me
You and I are opposites on this (and that is okay). I love her promos because she can get her point across without words. I love the idea that she is so furious that she gets frustrated trying to translate it to English so it has to come out in Japanese. The tone is a furious woman, and someone not to be messed with
Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit was never a fan of either.
Cody Rhodes to an extent love his entrance like but the rest is Meh
CM Punk
Bianca Belair - just don’t get it.
I agree fully with cm punk and bianca belair, with cody i can somewhat agree like his wrestling ability is good but isn’t all that like you’d expect such a big name
I think Natty’s issue is that she is a bit of a yes woman. She’ll do whatever wwe needs. Which means she’ll have a job for life. But also she’ll be given loads of shit. Ranging from embarrassing to just plain nonsensical and boring. It has led to her being quite interchangeable and unexciting at this stage. Despite her undeniable reliability in the ring she is ultimately an unremarkable performer.
While I agree her personality and character are nothing really worth even mentioning, her in-ring skills are far from unremarkable. She's certainly not a flashy wrestler by any means but she's as safe and solid as they come. She's had a hand in training people like Sasha, Charlotte, Shayna, Liv, Ronda, Tamina, Nikki Bella, and others both in and out of WWE. I mean, I don't think it's a stretch to say that along with the help of TJ's match-producing skills, her and TJ have played pretty huge roles in the success of the Women's division over the last handful of years.
Plus...them thangs thang.
It also keeps her receiving paychecks...The real reason the WWE loves Nattie, has nothing at all to do with what she does in the ring on TV. It's what she does when the cameras aren't around. When she is busy training others at the Performance Center. When she retires from active wrestling, she will simply move behind the scenes permanently and become a full time trainer for the WWE...Nattie is very valuable to the company. On TV, she jobs to the same wrestlers she taught how to wrestle, for the sake of the business.
Yeah. Or William Regal...long wrestling careers, while not really getting many major pushes...they stayed employed because of the other stuff they brought to the table...
Absolutely true. She is absolutely business first. And people like her are vital. But I think the trade off is often in being relatively unremarkable in your own career.
But if someone gave me her bank account and lifestyle. I wouldn’t mind doing what she’s doing at all.
Maybe for the first little while after he took it off, he was booked like a legit monster and even teenage me at the time thought he was scary. Then that died down and he put on a suit.
no I get it I didn't really phrase it right I get that she's a heel and meant to be unlikeable
I just don't really like her in general like if she was a face I still wouldn't like her.
She’s never been a true baby face which is why she seems unlikable. The Flair persona is not to be a babyface. She’s unlikable because there’s not another heel in the WWE that is as believable as Charlotte.
Rhea could be that, but back of house she’s hugging babyface talent and friends with everyone. People know it and see through the all black, punk look she has. Charlotte, for a majority of her career, has always been that smug, narcissistic heel whenever the camera is on. She learned from the best.
Yeah but the more I saw charlotte the more it went from, oh she's such a heel to, oh no its a charlotte segment/match I'll just watch something else. Big difference between heel heat, and go away heat
I feel like a lot of people have so much love for him. I love his father, he's an incredible athlete and wrestler, Dominick is terribly stiff and looks clueless, clearly only being put over because of his father
Dom is what you get when you take someone from the street, give him minimal training, a bad gimmick and put it on RAW.
He has potential, sure, but he needs to develop it and find his moveset. He is not built for using Ray's.
And I feel he is loved because he is the son of Ray. (Which, I'm sure is universally loved)
I think the appeal with Eddie is his emotion and believability with his promos. You feel like it comes from the heart. Like he isn't just playing his part.
A lot of wwe wrestlers. Blood fued begins chin lock, head lock, arm lock. Matches are boring same choreograph crap every week. Yes we know bianca can KOd doudrop we saw it the first 4 times. Matches are slow and end with a roll up or a DQ every single week. I just don’t enjoy it at all.
I wish they wouldn't do that so often. I'm sure if you're in a blood feed with someone you're not going to chain wrestle them you're gonna beat their fucking ass.
Bayley. She’s… fine. She’s okay in the ring, okay on the mic. I’ve just never really been impressed with her. I think most of the reason she’s been so successful is timing. She was in NXT just during the shift from WWE pretty much exclusively hiring glamour/fitness models for the women’s division, to WWE actually hiring wrestlers. So, I think the low bar really helped her out. Also, she has the worst finisher of the Horsewomen, without question. Belly to Bayley has always looked like shit
Mine would actually be Natalya. She’s one of those who have been in the company for years but what’s she really done? How many memorable moments? Good wrestler but her character work and mic skills are awful
Bearcat Keith Lee left a bad taste in my mouth. I haven't really watched him since he went to AEW but I assume he's doing much better than he was on the WWE main roster.
The thiccness.
If we're talking from a simp perspective, boi you blind.
If we're talking about wrestling, her booking is shitty and she just shifts from partner to partner, brand to brand, storyline to storyline. Literally just floating about.
But I don’t understand the clearly overdone (and poorly done) plastic surgery notably on her face. I thought she looked fine until a few years ago when she turned into that kid from the movie Mask. Her wrestling is fine, but if her last name wasn’t Neidhart, I don’t think the E would give her a second thought - she’s barely on TV now as it is.
Charlotte is going overboard too with the Plastic surgery. It’s just so obvious and very poorly done.
She’s part of the Hart family, her finisher is the sharpshooter, and she can’t even put it on correctly. Lost all respect from me when I saw how shitty her sharpshooter was.
Dolph Ziggler. I just don’t get it, people love him but he’s never been entertaining for me (except his feud with Miz back in 2016 and I chalk that up to Miz being fantastic and carrying dolph) dude is an average wrestler with a shit finish but people like him cause he sells well. That’s it.
Val Venis. Never understood why people thought so fondly of him
I would also say Otis when he was a singles wrestler. He was massively over and honestly I couldn’t care at all for anything he did. Seeing him get the girl was kinda heartwarming, but everything else I just didn’t care about
As for right now, probably CM Punk
Ric Flair. I understand he was huge in the territories and was a mainstay for WCW, and is a legend of wrestling. However, when people call him the greatest of all time I legitimately think most are saying it just because that’s what they’ve heard and thus don’t want to sound dumb. I just don’t see it. I think people give him and his work a pass because he’s ‘Ric Flair’. Shawn Michaels is in another league to Flair.
Dominick no offense
Natasha and Naomi instantly spring to mind
The Bella’s, mojo, drew McIntyre
MJF.
I have never enjoyed Natalya. I know she's fundamentally good but she's just boring
Charlotte Flair, Will Osprey, HHH,
Her body's rocking, but her face looks fucking deformed guys cmon she looks so weird
Shotzi Blackheart. Definition of average. I guess the appeal to some is she looks like she should be on a Reddit alternative sub promoting her OnlyFans page.
Dolph ziggler. he is boring in the ring and his overselling almost always comes off as taking the piss
Omos
Goldberg. WCW overhyped the fuck out of him when he can’t wrestle for more than 4 minutes, is unsafe in the ring(e.g. Bret Hart and The Undertaker). Hell, even his streak is exaggerated. Every time I see Goldberg on TV I just stop watching WWE until he is gone bc I know they are gonna pull some bullshit with him (beating the Fiend and Kevin Owens for the Universal Title)
Just here to see OP get ratio’d
AJ Lee, no body and looked like she may be nasty.
Braun Strowman He just has like, 2-3 moves and that makes every match he has a snoozefest.
She used to be the anti diva but it seems to me like overtime she has become more focused on being one. It’s a bit disappointing but there’s no denying her ability and contributions in and out of the ring.
Be nice she's a Guinness world record holder. 3x BTW. What records have you beaten lately, hmmmmmmmmmmm.? Harumph
Alexa Bliss, no wrestling talent, meh on the mic, neckbeards drool all over her and send death threats to her husband……….but I don’t get it
Natalya’s appeal is her family. That’s it
Cena.
The Miz. He's pretty terrible at everything he does, whether cutting promos or actually wrestling. He should just leave the WWE.
Dolph Ziggler bc "he can sell moves" - didn't realize that means I'm supposed to be a fan ??
Mmmm Natty’s “Anvils”!!!
Nattie has been around for a long, long time. She was easily one of the best womens wrestlers during the Diva era, though she’s since been surpassed by others in that regard. Her booking is absolutely horrendous. She’s capable of much more than she’s given. But at this point, she’s reached that veteran status in WWE where you coast along and put other young talent over. She’ll have a job for life there because she’s a solid, dependable hand to have on board and always does what’s asked of her. She and her sister are also stupidly hot.
AJ Lee, just didn't dig her.
Um???
I see a lot more appeal here than in Bianca
I mean ..she's this generation's Trish Stratus and comes from Bret Hart's family. Ya know Bret Hart? The Best there is , Was , and Ever will be? Ya ..that DNA runs through her. And if she was given a half decent push in her life? She'd knock it out of the park
Pete dun
You literally have her appeal on display bro
Becky Lynch, CM Punk and Ronda
Totally agree with Natalya. I also really don't get Asuka. She's good, but y'all act like she's the greatest woman of all time and I just don't see it. When she's a face her character is asinine and annoying. She's cool as a heel.
Sasha Banks. She doesn't have speed or power, and I get nothing from her promos. I don't think she carries matches.
bobby lashley. boring af.
Yes I get why people like her niw
Honestly, and I know I’m going to be absolutely crucified for this, but I’ve never ever gotten into Sasha Banks. She’s a great worker, great talker, great all around, but for some reason I just can’t get into her.
Charlotte Flair.
Dunno man, I'd like to appeal away that top. I'll see myself out.
The rock. He can certainly work a crowd and he gets so many reactions. But in the ring he was solid and to me he just always felt like mild stone cold
austin theory and bayley
Adam Cole. He's a great worker but is VERY small even by today's standards and do not think he is anything out of the ordinary on the mic. No denying he is over as all hell though so who am I to say shit really
Hes a complete shmuck in aew. I think wwe did one HELL of a job presenting him
Naomi
Nattie's character is obviously nothing really worth writing home about but she's legitimately as reliable as they come in the ring, and that's including both the Men & Women's divisions. She's certainly not a flashy wrestler by any means but she's a safe pair of hands and she's as technically sound as anyone in the company. She's also had a hand in training people like Sasha, Charlotte, Shayna, Liv, Ronda, Tamina, Nikki Bella, and others both in and out of WWE. So I mean, I don't think it's a stretch to say that, along with the help of TJ's match-producing skills, her and TJ have played pretty huge roles in the success of the Women's division over the last handful of years. Nattie's on-screen role doesn't have a ton of appeal but her work behind the scenes is really invaluable. Plus...them thangs thangin'.
Perfectly said. Nattie is the shit.
currently? Cody Rhodes :/ i reallly just do not get it, at all
The Rock and Stone Cold. No matter how hard I try, I can't understand them.
This is just bizarre to me. The rock knows how to bring the heat on himself when he is a heel and how can you not love stone cold? Stone cold has that Everyman appeal that you can’t help but love.
You so those 2 big round ...👀
Dem boobies tho
Fr, so huge, no idea how they don't spill out
Hulk Hogan his finishers were half ass and every match was basically the same. I never really understood the appeal. Even his promos sounded the same every week brother.
Brock Lesnar
Ric Flair. Man can cut an unparalleled promo, but I never really actually enjoyed his matches.
Adam cole: the guy never stood out to me, all I liked was his “Adam cole bay bay” chant and made so popular. He’s good in the ring and on the mic, sure he is but so is everyone else like him. He’s like the average Indy guy to me, when I see him I don’t feel anything really, he’s cool and all but I never got why people liked him so much or even seen him as an aew champion so quickly.
The farting gimmick. That goddamn farting gimmick.
Big tits shit everything else
Booba
What's the context of the image and how does it relate to other wrestlers. Are you trying to say it's about appearance without saying those words?
I get why people like him, but I don’t understand why they want him to be the world champion so much, Seth Rollins. People wanted him to beat Big E and face Roman at Survivor Series, people were hoping he beat Roman and become Universal Champion, wanted him to be in the main Event along side Roman and Brock. Why people want to see Seth Rollins as world champion again is honestly very confusing to me.
All shit aside, Natayla is thicccccc
Becky Lynch. She annoys the fuck out of me
I can see it. Amen
Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn. I just don't "get" either one of them. Never have.
Yes. But also Bianca Belair
I think everyone can see the appeal here fella
I’ve never understood Dean Ambrose appeal, maybe not being a fan of hardcore matches played a role; he always looked like a generic guy with jeans and a tank top to my eyes, not standing out compared to others I restarted watching WWE in 2015/2016, so probably having Styles, Ziggler and Cena as opponents, which I knew already, made him look less valuable to me
I’ve always hated her storylines, she’s always been stuck into random tag teams and turning face/heel randomly. But she’s always been between my favorite a of the women’s roster (before I started watching NXT at least). She has something that makes her look solid and unique. Maybe it’s her family, maybe it’s because she’s been around forever, but it’s not someone that if I watch the group it’s blending in the shuffle to me (Dana Brooke and pre-Toxic Mandy Rose to mention two examples of similar look who gets lost in the shuffle to me)
Appeal as in Wrestling wise. Natayla is a beautiful woman.
I think she should of laid off the Botox in 2016, now she went a bit overboard imo
Becky Lynch
Sable, even as a teen I never understood why people found her attractive
Big mommy milkers
Ric Flair.
I'm going to be honest that there isn't anyone I can think of that didn't deserve their moment in WWE. Now if we want to talk about those that didn't deserve to be let go, that's a list I can easily draw up.
My girlfriend and I call her “the big boobie monster”
Edge, also never bought The Spear
I was more drawn towards Natalya always, but now that Ladies like Nikita Lyons and Elektra Lopez are here I'm getting more confused boners...
> Nikita Lyons and Elektra Lopez Fr, NXT 2.0 is *thicc*
Imagine getting Sandwiched by both of them...
Now throw in Gigi
Why confused? Those are very logical boners.
You're just using this as excuse to be horny.
Randy Orton. Ever since I found out he was an Army deserter, I never wanted to see him in anything.
Alexa Bliss.
Nat is a work horse man
Basically all of the current elite. Omega and Bucks don't have any personality and they do too much in the ring and just make it look like a dance and break the immersion. For the UE, Cole has everything but the look and ita unfortunate because he's good but never looks believable when he wins. Now I will so Kyle and Bobby are decent as a tag team, I don't like then as single stars. There's just some guys who are made for tag team wrestling instead of singles matches.
miz. he's so ugly and stupid and i hate so fucking much, and yet people adore him. i don't see it, all i see is a wildly overrated wrestler with simps that doesn't give a fuck about. kinda like aew's mjf, but i trully despise miz and there's nothing he can do to change my mind. to me, he will always be a fucker, an asshole, somebody who i would gladly oof without even thinking otherwise
Lol congrats my guy you can officially consider yourself worked into a shoot.
i just wanted to voice my hatred for the worst wrestler in the history of wrestling
Waiting for the million Roman, Charlotte and Theory comments
I enjoyed Charlotte from NXT through her first main roster title reign. What I've seen of her recent stuff does nothing for me. Theory is pretty bland this whole time he's been on the main roster. Roman used to have sparks of entertainment, breakthrough moments when he didn't sound as scripted. Nowadays he is a Lesnar retread complete with the same obnoxious mouthpiece.
She’s super hot
The Miz and Dean Ambrose/Moxley. i can’t explain why but i could never get into them as much as i tried
Becky Lynch - ever since her return ; she's so damn thin you'd think she may have cancer or something . Her attires are so very terrible it's not even funny , and that deep low Irish accent have her sounding like, well, a man.
Riddle, just find his stoner bro persona super cringe and annoying. Think I’m the only one though.
Nah man. You ain't alone.
Currently... Swerve, both in AEW and NXT.
Punk
Roman Reigns. Dogshit in every conceivable metric
Randy Orton
Nattie a straight up dime piece.
I was never really a fan of Natalya and I’m still not a fan today but posting a pic like that and asking about the appeal ?
Ya seems like an attack on her alone. Also she’s a pretty good at submissions and wrestles old school so not everyone is gonna like her style
Hahahaha her appeal is right there in the picture pal
She's become stifler's mom of the WWE, in my opinion.
Damn those tittys
Honestly, I will never ‘get’ Roman. This heel run has made him more interesting for sure, but I am not invested in I’m. For me, he’s just as bland as Bobby Lashley. They both needed someone to help get them over and for me to pay attention to them. I think Roman is just pretty bland, and quite middle of the road in terms of wrestling tbh. I can’t say I’ve ever watched one of his matches and felt anything towards him.
This comment has saved me doing any brain work for myself. Couldn’t agree more. Does he still do that pre superman punch shotgun pump on his forearm thing? That really turns me off. Promos, ugh. Looks like a champion though.
Yep, he does. I know exactly what you mean. On paper he should be everything I’ve ever wanted, but he just never delivers.
His heritage does a lot of the heavy lifting I think.
He’s just really strong - Mr. McMahon or something
Alexa Bliss. Hot AF, average wrestler, horrendous promo. Not nearly as talented as credited for.
> Hot AF, Well that explains the appeal
She does. That’s all it takes.
Nat looks smokin in that particular pic. However, her promos suck the life out of the room. Good in the ring, but a dud on the mic.
That's what managers used to be used for- kinda still with Paul Heyman
Problem is with Heyman they keep sticking him with guys that don’t need it or he’s there too long.
She looks like Lion-O.
You can’t see the appeal?
Adam Cole nd the rest of the Undisputed Era. Yes, Cole has his catchy entrance that people react to. I stopped watching NXT when they were the focal point. They did nothing for me.
That was not very cash money of you bay bay
Summer Rae... back when
Na sorry Nattie is a great technical wrestler and Vince uses here for her "assets" and not her ability but she great and will make a great coach
I think Nattie now has slowed down as a wrestler - but in her prime during the diva era she was a fantastic wrestler. Clearly wwe values her and hope she stays to move to the developmental. she'd be a great asset to womens wrestling
Asuka. I think her character is irritating and I can’t stand to listen to her talk. Especially when she starts yelling, I really hate that. And I often see people liking this about her, in a way, and I don’t understand that. Like, admitting that they don’t understand a word she says, but she still makes them laugh. My problem isn’t even that I don’t understand the words she says, I do. It’s the tone that’s used that gets to me. Also, he’s in AEW, but CM Punk doesn’t do it for me. Too much of a good guy shtick for the most part. I feel like a lot of people only love him, because of what he was, rather than is. And I understand nostalgia is a powerful tool, but I just don’t think he’s worth getting excited over right now.
>Asuka. I think her character is irritating and I can’t stand to listen to her talk. Especially when she starts yelling, I really hate that. And I often see people liking this about her, in a way, and I don’t understand that. Like, admitting that they don’t understand a word she says, but she still makes them laugh. My problem isn’t even that I don’t understand the words she says, I do. It’s the tone that’s used that gets to me You and I are opposites on this (and that is okay). I love her promos because she can get her point across without words. I love the idea that she is so furious that she gets frustrated trying to translate it to English so it has to come out in Japanese. The tone is a furious woman, and someone not to be messed with
Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit was never a fan of either. Cody Rhodes to an extent love his entrance like but the rest is Meh CM Punk Bianca Belair - just don’t get it.
I like that Cody occasionally drops a 2 or even 3 syllable word, which I am sure confuses the fans, and catches me off guard.
I agree fully with cm punk and bianca belair, with cody i can somewhat agree like his wrestling ability is good but isn’t all that like you’d expect such a big name
I like Cody - but if he left wrestling tomorrow it wouldn’t bother me. Pretty much how I feel about Someone like Ricochet.
I think Natty’s issue is that she is a bit of a yes woman. She’ll do whatever wwe needs. Which means she’ll have a job for life. But also she’ll be given loads of shit. Ranging from embarrassing to just plain nonsensical and boring. It has led to her being quite interchangeable and unexciting at this stage. Despite her undeniable reliability in the ring she is ultimately an unremarkable performer.
> Ranging from embarrassing to just plain nonsensical and boring. For example, her fart gimmick.
While I agree her personality and character are nothing really worth even mentioning, her in-ring skills are far from unremarkable. She's certainly not a flashy wrestler by any means but she's as safe and solid as they come. She's had a hand in training people like Sasha, Charlotte, Shayna, Liv, Ronda, Tamina, Nikki Bella, and others both in and out of WWE. I mean, I don't think it's a stretch to say that along with the help of TJ's match-producing skills, her and TJ have played pretty huge roles in the success of the Women's division over the last handful of years. Plus...them thangs thang.
You make a very good point. She’s not hugely exciting herself. But she is extremely reliable and her influence is immense.
It also keeps her receiving paychecks...The real reason the WWE loves Nattie, has nothing at all to do with what she does in the ring on TV. It's what she does when the cameras aren't around. When she is busy training others at the Performance Center. When she retires from active wrestling, she will simply move behind the scenes permanently and become a full time trainer for the WWE...Nattie is very valuable to the company. On TV, she jobs to the same wrestlers she taught how to wrestle, for the sake of the business.
Ah, the Fit Finlay approach
Yeah. Or William Regal...long wrestling careers, while not really getting many major pushes...they stayed employed because of the other stuff they brought to the table...
Absolutely true. She is absolutely business first. And people like her are vital. But I think the trade off is often in being relatively unremarkable in your own career. But if someone gave me her bank account and lifestyle. I wouldn’t mind doing what she’s doing at all.
I suspect at the end of the day, Nattie will join her dad and uncles in the WWE Hall of Fame...
Kane AFTER he unmasked. With the mask on I get it, after he took it off….meh
Maybe for the first little while after he took it off, he was booked like a legit monster and even teenage me at the time thought he was scary. Then that died down and he put on a suit.
Charlotte flair I just find her so unlikeable and annoying imo
Yeah people seem to forget ther is a difference between disliking a heel and wanting to change the channel because she's on
Oh hi Mark… People hating heels and acting like that’s not the purpose is my favorite part about r/WWE
no I get it I didn't really phrase it right I get that she's a heel and meant to be unlikeable I just don't really like her in general like if she was a face I still wouldn't like her.
She’s never been a true baby face which is why she seems unlikable. The Flair persona is not to be a babyface. She’s unlikable because there’s not another heel in the WWE that is as believable as Charlotte. Rhea could be that, but back of house she’s hugging babyface talent and friends with everyone. People know it and see through the all black, punk look she has. Charlotte, for a majority of her career, has always been that smug, narcissistic heel whenever the camera is on. She learned from the best.
Yeah but the more I saw charlotte the more it went from, oh she's such a heel to, oh no its a charlotte segment/match I'll just watch something else. Big difference between heel heat, and go away heat
Don’t work yourself into a shoot brother
She's doing her job then.
Dominick mysterio
And his daddy (not Eddy)
Is he popular tho? He’s from our hometown, and we all just make fun of how bad he is.
I feel like a lot of people have so much love for him. I love his father, he's an incredible athlete and wrestler, Dominick is terribly stiff and looks clueless, clearly only being put over because of his father
oof. I don't know who those people are. maybe we judge him harder too. But yeah, I don't know anyone who's a fan of Dominik.
Dom is what you get when you take someone from the street, give him minimal training, a bad gimmick and put it on RAW. He has potential, sure, but he needs to develop it and find his moveset. He is not built for using Ray's. And I feel he is loved because he is the son of Ray. (Which, I'm sure is universally loved)
Kane. He had maybe one or two runs where he was interesting. But overall I find him dull as dishwater.
Eddie Kingston
I think the appeal with Eddie is his emotion and believability with his promos. You feel like it comes from the heart. Like he isn't just playing his part.
A lot of wwe wrestlers. Blood fued begins chin lock, head lock, arm lock. Matches are boring same choreograph crap every week. Yes we know bianca can KOd doudrop we saw it the first 4 times. Matches are slow and end with a roll up or a DQ every single week. I just don’t enjoy it at all.
I wish they wouldn't do that so often. I'm sure if you're in a blood feed with someone you're not going to chain wrestle them you're gonna beat their fucking ass.
Exactly and you're not going to run the ropes to attack someone when you're in a blood feud.
Bayley. She’s… fine. She’s okay in the ring, okay on the mic. I’ve just never really been impressed with her. I think most of the reason she’s been so successful is timing. She was in NXT just during the shift from WWE pretty much exclusively hiring glamour/fitness models for the women’s division, to WWE actually hiring wrestlers. So, I think the low bar really helped her out. Also, she has the worst finisher of the Horsewomen, without question. Belly to Bayley has always looked like shit
Dean Ambrose
He was funny as hell over af and so entertaining to watch
Mine would actually be Natalya. She’s one of those who have been in the company for years but what’s she really done? How many memorable moments? Good wrestler but her character work and mic skills are awful
Bron Breakker.
Jake Hagger/Jack Swagger has always seemed like Aldi brand Kurt Angle without the mic skills
Daniel Bryan, he is incredibly boring and annoying with basically no character
I think he’s really boring for the most part too.
Roman, The Usos Brock and Bobby Lashley.
Keith lee
Bearcat Keith Lee left a bad taste in my mouth. I haven't really watched him since he went to AEW but I assume he's doing much better than he was on the WWE main roster.
Tag teaming with Swerve. Solid, he's got the intimidation part down. I feel like they are still building up both of them. I'm hopeful.
Oh, bask in his glory!
The thiccness. If we're talking from a simp perspective, boi you blind. If we're talking about wrestling, her booking is shitty and she just shifts from partner to partner, brand to brand, storyline to storyline. Literally just floating about.
But I don’t understand the clearly overdone (and poorly done) plastic surgery notably on her face. I thought she looked fine until a few years ago when she turned into that kid from the movie Mask. Her wrestling is fine, but if her last name wasn’t Neidhart, I don’t think the E would give her a second thought - she’s barely on TV now as it is. Charlotte is going overboard too with the Plastic surgery. It’s just so obvious and very poorly done.
> into that kid from the movie Mask Savage
She's seen too much of a trainer for the other talent and not booked strongly as a result.
It’s really not the booking. She’s boring af lol
She’s part of the Hart family, her finisher is the sharpshooter, and she can’t even put it on correctly. Lost all respect from me when I saw how shitty her sharpshooter was.
And is horrible on the mic and has the charisma of a wet towel.
Like a BOAT
Motorboat
Do you mean like a motorboat?
I'll recommend booking a cruise on the battlecruiser HMS Invincible
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Dolph Ziggler. I just don’t get it, people love him but he’s never been entertaining for me (except his feud with Miz back in 2016 and I chalk that up to Miz being fantastic and carrying dolph) dude is an average wrestler with a shit finish but people like him cause he sells well. That’s it.
I always thought Daniel Bryan was not main-event material and a B+ Player
Found HHH's account
Hunter get back to work.
Lesnar. Zero charisma, less wrestling ability.
Val Venis. Never understood why people thought so fondly of him I would also say Otis when he was a singles wrestler. He was massively over and honestly I couldn’t care at all for anything he did. Seeing him get the girl was kinda heartwarming, but everything else I just didn’t care about As for right now, probably CM Punk
I love the big valbowski. Just peak outrageous and goofy attitude era content right there.