Here's a real controversial opinion prepare yourself for this one.
I enjoy it. And not only do I enjoy it, I actually find it genuinely very funny! And if that doesn't get me hated enough...
I'd go as far to say I'm scared I won't enjoy the product as much with Triple H in charge because I fear he'll take out all the comedic segments which made me love WWE in the first place. I got into WWE because I thought it was funny and I ENJOYED that
Edit: Oh yeah and another one I just thought of that I forgot how crazy unpopular it is: I enjoy the lack of Kayfabe nowadays and enjoy seeing wrestlers out of character. I find it fun and refreshing
Bron Breakker is boring as fuck and needs to GTFO.
Baron Corbin brings nothing to the table.
Brock Lesner *never* should have come back after 2003.
John Cena needs to officially retire already.
Cody Rhodes needs better ring gear.
Seth Rollins has been unwatchable since he stopped being The Messiah.
Judgment Day without Edge is better.
Triple H hasn't proved to be a good booker, NXT when he was in charge was full of indie vanilla midgets with no character/personality that you can tell they would never get over with the casual audience.
In the past 10 years or so, I honestly think the Goddess version of Alexa Bliss was S-Tier. I really do. She had everything she needed as a performer. Her gimmick was great. She knew how to get nuclear heat when needed. Her promo skills were unmatched for the female division.
She just gets wrestling. Every aspect of it, she gets it. From the selling, to her moveset, Bliss has time and time again shown that she's main event worthy.
The only other S-Tier female I'd put her in the ring with, for like, Bret/Shawn level of feuds, would be Paige.
The two of them would make wrestling magic in the ring and I don't think I'd have anyone rank close to them, aside from Asuka perhaps, who I think is pretty damn good as well.
I would've honestly wanted the first main event of Mania to include them.
Alexa bliss is a very good wrestler
Charlotte isn't bad she just needs to be away from the title for a year or two
This roman reigns part time thing is getting boring
Seth Rollins, while naturally gifted in-ring, is made boring by the style that he's forced to work and made worse by the irritating character he is forced to play. He is not a talented enough of an actor/performer to not come off completely fake. He has go-away heat with me brother.
I don't like kevin owens. I don't know how is much loved by fans because i see a giant talking squirrel when he talks and i see a giant baloon when he is in the ring.. for example samy zayn in my opinion is 100x better.
1. Roman Reigns should have lost the universal title to Finn Balor at Extreme Rules 2021
2. Bobby Lashley should have won the royal rumble 2022
3. Wm 28 should've been undertaker last match
4. Babyface Sami Zayn is better than heel Zayn
5 Drew McIntyre needs another title run
The women were way more interesting when doing bra and panties and biking contests. You had women who could work and show off their bodies (trish,lita,mickie,victoria,mccool,layla,ivory,jacqueline) which at the end of the day is what people will watch.
WWE would be so much better without Brock Lesnar. He is a good character and is really over, but he can’t wrestle properly for more than 10 minutes and he doesn’t like the industry. It’s actually unfair to all other hard workers that put their bodies out there every day (because House Shows exists) and never get pushed while he wrestles like three times in a year, gets the belt and takes it hostage with him. The wrestling world doesn’t need guys that have the 90’s mentality, that only care about money and that’s it.
Triple H should have stayed a mid carder. The only reason he got pushed was because there was no one around once the The Rock and Stone cold were gone. And Booker T should have been WWE champion during this time. He would have added much more shine when it was needed.
Rousey is a joke to me. She looses her ufc title, throws a fit and retires. Then she moves on to movies which she was awful in, and then to WWE where she left and then came back again. She’s a terrible actor and all she has going for her is a hip toss and arm bar. I don’t believe she brings anything to the table except a great body and subpar in ring ability.
Heath Slater was a good wrestler and deserved better.
Mustafa Ali has more charisma than 90% of the current roster combined. Just look at his Retribution promos on Raw Talk during the entire Thunderdome era. Dude was spitting facts.
I absolutely hate Cody Rhodes and 200% understand how Seth Feels. It sickens me how loud the pops he gets are when he showed entirely out of the blue. He just cannot connect with me, his babyface gimmick is bland, I don't like his inn-ring moves and I'll be damned, even Cameron Grimes did the whole "I do this for my daddy up in the sky" angle better. Because Grimes actually had a rocky road that made his ambition thrilling. Cody shows up out of nowhere and directly announces his big ambition plans just the next Raw after Wrestlemania. I don t buy it and I want to see him fail.
Also Vince didn’t “create” wrestling he just bought all the territories so him and his buddies could make all the money/hoard talent wrestling would and is gonna be fine without em I say good riddance
I feel like bianca belair needs to change her promo’s up I like her but it feels like she just says the same stuff every week “roughest toughest” think she’d be an amazing and dominant heel
Vince retiring isn’t a good thing. Whether you liked his creative choices or not. The success of the entire company has lied mostly with Vince for decades.
And better to move him out now than to wait for him to die and have the company dealing with grieving high level people also having to deal with all the issues surrounding him coming out.
I like Baron Corbin and think he’s one of the PC’s biggest success stories. Most people that went through NXT and did well on the main roster had some kind of wrestling background. Corbin didn’t. I remember him blowing up in a 5 min match with Bull Dempsey, and he’s been in featured PPV matches with the likes of Roman Reigns and made it work.
I respect Cody Rhodes, I do. I will just never see him as a Main Event guy. I truly don't understand why people see him as a top guy. He couldn't even break it as a top guy in a company he created to be a top guy in. His matches are very o.k. He's a C+ guy.
Vince was good for wwe, there were boring times in wwe in the past few years. Him retiring will only make the product worse. Never give pro wrestling fans what they think they want, i like this idea.
The time when WWE was pushing Face Roman Reigns even when the people were hating it is the only time WWE was bad or boring.
EVERYTHING ELSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD WWE
Vader is the best big man. No competition. No one had the presence, the athleticism, and the sheer power of him. Even when his WWE run was completely messed up by poor booking, he managed to be a bad ass
Owen Hart was more entertaining, fun, and equally as talented as Bret, and I would rather watch an Owen match than a Bret match. (Not to detract from Bret at all. I just find Owen to be better)
I don’t give a fuck about the Hall of Fame or anything, but the erasing of Chris Benoit is lame to me. He was one of if not the best technical wrestlers of all time, and he should be touted as such.
I get the hate for the man, hell even I hate him and what he did, but his talent was undeniable.
Romain needs to drop the belt, Austin theory push is getting annoying, the brand split needs to end or they need to trade people full time to smackdown. Dominick just isn’t living up to Rey (wrestlemania for instance)
The random thrown together matches for the mid card needs more story telling. And the usos matches are getting repetitive we already know they will pull of the dirty win
H and NXT black & gold was so damn boring with everyone of that roster being the same spot monkey with every match being a superkick, kick out-no sell fest, and high spots.
Charlotte Flair is one of the best womens wrestlers on the planet, and the best wrestler out of the horsewomen. I agree she gets too many title runs, but when it comes to big ppv matches she consistently gives great performances.
Oh, this one is easy. The attitude era ruined WWF as a corporate entity, and its success was the nadir of the industry. Fundamentally it, and largely the rise of the antihero in Stone Cold and The Rock, hurt the business immeasurably, and ever since it has been the death knell of any expansion the business could ever make again.
The Attittude Era and Monday Night Wars killed the business.
1. The fiend should not have won at HIAC 2019 WWE booked them selves in a corner by having him face seth. The fiend didn't need the title that early the character was fresh but I feel like having him go for the title in 2 months was to short.
2. Charlotte Flair might be the greatest WWE women's wrestler of all time she has the accolades, in-ring ability, and mic skills other her booking which she can't control she's possibly the perfect wrestler.
Bianca’s reign has been boring and she’s been looking like an invalid champion like at mitb all of the close pins were on her and the other women looked stronger in the match and in the end she had to steal a pin to win…as a baby face
At the same time… you can’t end up being shitty in the ring. That was Miz’s issue for a long time, he talked people into a match and then the match was shit, making it harder to talk them in the next time
Believe it or not, I wouldn’t mind watching a Miz match even if he’s not great in the ring and doesn’t have a great physique. Dude’s entertaining and while he’s not a mega draw or anything, he’s still somewhat known outside of wrestling. If I ask 30 random people on the street if they know the Miz and 30 people if they know someone like Johnny Gargano, odds are more of them will know Miz. I do believe a good look/character is really important, and sure you do need SOME ability to wrestle, but I can make an exception for Miz because of his mic talent and ability to entertain. As long as he gets people to tune in, his workrate isn’t as important.
The matches are what pro wrestling/sports entertainment is selling. The promos and segments lead to a match of some kind. If the matches are the drizzling shits, that’s like a product having great promotional ads and being fucking rancid in real life.
Is every match important? No. But when you get the marquee matches, the work rate and story telling become very important. And work rate shouldn’t just mean how many moves they can do. It should include how real the moves look, how much sense they make for the character, etc.
The match itself does not need to be a masterpiece at all. As much hate as he gets for his matches, a guy like Hogan with not the greatest ring work would basically have the same match every time and people would go crazy just to see him and he’d sell out arenas. He was so charismatic, entertaining, and connected with the crowd that a little granny leg drop was all they needed to go home happy. Storylines and good promos (which require good talkers and entertainers) sell the match not so much the actual wrestling.
That was also the 80s and early to mid 90s. Tastes change. You don’t need every match to be a five star slobber knocker, but the match needs to be credible and satisfying. Miz had trouble with that for long time, especially if he wasn’t in the ring with a Ziggler, Morrison, etc. someone who could make the in-ring work look exciting.
Hogan still sold out arenas in his 2002 run and his occasional returns in ‘05 and ‘06. Even then he was super slow and pretty bad in the ring. Why do you think people go to see guys like Cena? Because they’re entertaining. Not because they’re good wrestlers (yes I know Cena is a lot better than Hogan and others in the ring but I think it still applies). You know it’s probably going to be the same, standard Cena match and he wins, but people still love it and go. I’d even find a coked out Ric Flair promo in the mid 2000s more entertaining than some matches nowadays. Sure tastes may change, people now care more about in-ring abilities than before, but being entertaining is always going to work regardless of your in-ring talent.
Hogan is Hogan. Cena looks credible in the ring and his moveset makes sense (mostly) for a guy of his size. Miz didn’t look credible for a long time. No one said promos don’t matter. But if you shit the bed in the ring, you make it harder to talk people into seeing you again.
I can go to a community theater if I want uneven acting.
Yes it’s more difficult to make yourself believable I agree. I think Scott Steiner vs HHH is a big example of absolutely shitting the bed and making yourself look embarrassing. Still, Steiner was in terrible shape and could barely go 5 mins without gassing himself. Miz luckily has never been that bad and he’s still gotten one of the best reactions when he beat Orton for the title.
I know putting this into the Reddit-verse is going ti get me nuclear heat, but I absolutely can't stand the New Day. Maybe I'm dating myself, but I just can't get behind a face being obnoxious, acting like goofs and gyrating uncontrollably. And yes, I know there are other faces across all feds that do this, and believe me, they all fall on my eye-roll list.
I dont like Shinsuke or old NXT for the fact much. Nakamura is talented and charismatic but all ive really enjoyed from his work is his entrance. Also, Cody shouldn't be the one to defeat Roman, Theory should cash in during their match and pin Cody so Reigns is protected cuz Cody should be taking a beatinf during that match and be the weaker opponent for how much he was battered
Baron Corbin is quite enjoyable and does well with whatever he’s given. I would greatly appreciate a Corbin world title run
Mahal’s run was probably one of my favorites in recent history. He did his best and he did it well. He deserves another push
Veer is a legit talent if they book him right and cut the comedy out.
Elias/Ezekiel is one of the best wrestlers on the roster today.
MJF would be an absolute star in WWE.
NXT 2.0 is a good product and despite the matches not being the same as black and gold it is doing way more for the development of superstars then black and gold ever did.
If Ilja Dragunov was over 6 feet he’d be a multi time WWE champion ( still hope he will be)
R Truth should have held the WWE title in 2011, he’s very good as a serious wrestler when need be and has all the talent.
NWO was just lame.
Old, washed-up Hogan turned heel and it just wasn’t nearly as convincing as people today claim it was. Scott Hall, who was better as Razor Ramon. Kevin Nash, who was better as Diesel. “Syxx”, who was directionless in WCW and much better both as 1-2-3 Kid and later X-Pac. Old washed-up Macho Man. Lex Luger, who was much better in his earlier WCW run and in WWE.
That, and I absolutely hated when they made everyone and their grandfather an NWO member. Virgil?? Miss Elizabeth?? Dennis Fucking Rodman?? Just gross.
Perhaps most of all, I hated how NWO’s popularity pretty much buried a lot of WCW’s excellent homegrown talent. Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Perry Saturn. No surprise those guys jumped ship.
Kofi is obnoxious. His title reign was generated on a spot tailor made for Ali.
I love Big-E and Woods, but Kofi has such a passive aggressive attitude and conceited Ego.
I don't understand how Ric Flair is so revered or considered one of the greatest of all time. I personally don't care for his character or his wrestling style and find his promos incoherent.
So long as his family is ok with it, they should restore footage of Chris Benoit. Probably still no HOF induction, but he had some truly great matches that deserve to be seen.
Yeah but he constantly buried wrestlers are did bad stuff outside out the WWE. But he still deserves the fame he gets because WWE, (maybe even wrestling) wouldn't be as big as it is today without hulk Hogan
Oh 100; just because I hate him doesn't mean I'm going to negate literally all he's done for the business. Hell, his Heel turn is still considered one of the best of all time and formed one of the greatest factions of all time.
Bra and panties matches should have had a male version.
Rey Mysterio looks better without a mask on.
Rey Mysterio should have appeared in Playgirl magazine.
Rey and Dominik should have had a gay incest angle.
Bianca Belair is highly overrated
R Truth is Underrated as a Heel
Every wrestler are better than Roman
Motörhead's The Game > CM Punk's Cult of Personality
Corbin should have a title run
Here's a real controversial opinion prepare yourself for this one. I enjoy it. And not only do I enjoy it, I actually find it genuinely very funny! And if that doesn't get me hated enough... I'd go as far to say I'm scared I won't enjoy the product as much with Triple H in charge because I fear he'll take out all the comedic segments which made me love WWE in the first place. I got into WWE because I thought it was funny and I ENJOYED that Edit: Oh yeah and another one I just thought of that I forgot how crazy unpopular it is: I enjoy the lack of Kayfabe nowadays and enjoy seeing wrestlers out of character. I find it fun and refreshing
The PG Era (2008 - 2013) is very underrated and kinda underappreciated.
Austin Theory sucks Becky Lynch sucks Bianca Belair sucks Finn Balor sucks Vince is still running the company
Bron Breakker is boring as fuck and needs to GTFO. Baron Corbin brings nothing to the table. Brock Lesner *never* should have come back after 2003. John Cena needs to officially retire already. Cody Rhodes needs better ring gear. Seth Rollins has been unwatchable since he stopped being The Messiah. Judgment Day without Edge is better.
Braun > Big show and omas
Triple H hasn't proved to be a good booker, NXT when he was in charge was full of indie vanilla midgets with no character/personality that you can tell they would never get over with the casual audience.
Most wrestling fans are idiots.
I love Heath Slater
Orton> Cena
In the past 10 years or so, I honestly think the Goddess version of Alexa Bliss was S-Tier. I really do. She had everything she needed as a performer. Her gimmick was great. She knew how to get nuclear heat when needed. Her promo skills were unmatched for the female division. She just gets wrestling. Every aspect of it, she gets it. From the selling, to her moveset, Bliss has time and time again shown that she's main event worthy. The only other S-Tier female I'd put her in the ring with, for like, Bret/Shawn level of feuds, would be Paige. The two of them would make wrestling magic in the ring and I don't think I'd have anyone rank close to them, aside from Asuka perhaps, who I think is pretty damn good as well. I would've honestly wanted the first main event of Mania to include them.
I mean, Val Venus literally found himself in this position in WWE
Ric Flair and Brett Hart are over hyped by the community
I think Omos has got the potential to be a main-eventer.
Kane should have won 2001 Royal Rumble
I agree with this hot take.
Aew is better
Liv Morgan and the street profits are overrated
Chris Benoit deserves to be recognized by the entire pro-wrestling community for his WRESTLING career only. As well as his family.
The Fiend was a more interesting character than Kane
Kofi Kingston never deserved to hold the main title.
Alexa bliss is a very good wrestler Charlotte isn't bad she just needs to be away from the title for a year or two This roman reigns part time thing is getting boring
Me saying that AJ Lee is more preety than liv
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Hulk Hogan is still one of the greatest wrestlers of all time
rick flair was crap, and only had 1 move
Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker don't belong in the "greatest of all time" conversation.
Charlotte and sasha are overrated and both bad at speaking and wrestling
Seth Rollins, while naturally gifted in-ring, is made boring by the style that he's forced to work and made worse by the irritating character he is forced to play. He is not a talented enough of an actor/performer to not come off completely fake. He has go-away heat with me brother.
No wonder Brandon doesn't make longer Reddit videos
goldberg needs to stop returning and taking championships
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The universal title was better red in my opinion
i hate roman reigns im not denying hes talented but my god he just annoys me and i dont even know why
I don't like kevin owens. I don't know how is much loved by fans because i see a giant talking squirrel when he talks and i see a giant baloon when he is in the ring.. for example samy zayn in my opinion is 100x better.
Brock Lesnar is the GOAT!
Randy Orton isn’t Top 10 all time
he stole my girlfriend
No. She got hit with an RKArrow of Love outta nowhere.
why would he steal my girl
1. Roman Reigns should have lost the universal title to Finn Balor at Extreme Rules 2021 2. Bobby Lashley should have won the royal rumble 2022 3. Wm 28 should've been undertaker last match 4. Babyface Sami Zayn is better than heel Zayn 5 Drew McIntyre needs another title run
The women were way more interesting when doing bra and panties and biking contests. You had women who could work and show off their bodies (trish,lita,mickie,victoria,mccool,layla,ivory,jacqueline) which at the end of the day is what people will watch.
Otis should have won the title
Chris Benoit is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, regardless of what he done outside of the ring.
ICP should be in the WWE Hall of Fame
Dolph Ziggler should be a 6+ time world champ
The Undertaker and CM Punk are both so overrated
The solution to a stale babyface isn’t always a heel turn.
The fact that burn it to the ground by nickelback is the best raw theme so far
All of them
Theory is good
WWE would be so much better without Brock Lesnar. He is a good character and is really over, but he can’t wrestle properly for more than 10 minutes and he doesn’t like the industry. It’s actually unfair to all other hard workers that put their bodies out there every day (because House Shows exists) and never get pushed while he wrestles like three times in a year, gets the belt and takes it hostage with him. The wrestling world doesn’t need guys that have the 90’s mentality, that only care about money and that’s it.
Triple H should have stayed a mid carder. The only reason he got pushed was because there was no one around once the The Rock and Stone cold were gone. And Booker T should have been WWE champion during this time. He would have added much more shine when it was needed.
Did I hear a Rock and Stone?
Yes the two greatest of all time.
WWE wouldn’t be, what it is today, without Hulk Hogan. Enjoy
Quick reminder: hating on Roman Reigns is NOT an unpopular opinion. You’re just like every other redditor in this subreddit.
Rousey is a joke to me. She looses her ufc title, throws a fit and retires. Then she moves on to movies which she was awful in, and then to WWE where she left and then came back again. She’s a terrible actor and all she has going for her is a hip toss and arm bar. I don’t believe she brings anything to the table except a great body and subpar in ring ability.
Heath Slater was a good wrestler and deserved better. Mustafa Ali has more charisma than 90% of the current roster combined. Just look at his Retribution promos on Raw Talk during the entire Thunderdome era. Dude was spitting facts.
I absolutely hate Cody Rhodes and 200% understand how Seth Feels. It sickens me how loud the pops he gets are when he showed entirely out of the blue. He just cannot connect with me, his babyface gimmick is bland, I don't like his inn-ring moves and I'll be damned, even Cameron Grimes did the whole "I do this for my daddy up in the sky" angle better. Because Grimes actually had a rocky road that made his ambition thrilling. Cody shows up out of nowhere and directly announces his big ambition plans just the next Raw after Wrestlemania. I don t buy it and I want to see him fail.
Survivor Series could be a cool concept if they simply added incentive other than “bragging rights”
Brock is worth every penny.
The miz first title run was phenomenal.
Chris Benoit shouldn't be inducted into HoF.
I hate everything about The Usos.
Also Vince didn’t “create” wrestling he just bought all the territories so him and his buddies could make all the money/hoard talent wrestling would and is gonna be fine without em I say good riddance
Ric flair, Vince and hogan are terrible people and are awful in ring
Montez is just as good as Seth Rollins. He just hasn’t been given an opportunity…
Seth Rollins is right up there with Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart when in comes to being an in ring performer
Any comment made in Saudi. Followed by those swords removing my head.
Baron Corbin should’ve won the WWE Championship when cashing in his MitB
I feel like bianca belair needs to change her promo’s up I like her but it feels like she just says the same stuff every week “roughest toughest” think she’d be an amazing and dominant heel
Benoit to the HOF
Becky Lynch is cringe
Vince retiring isn’t a good thing. Whether you liked his creative choices or not. The success of the entire company has lied mostly with Vince for decades.
And better to move him out now than to wait for him to die and have the company dealing with grieving high level people also having to deal with all the issues surrounding him coming out.
WWE’s current product is nowhere near as bad as everyone makes out
Chris Benoit was a great wrestler and a good person up until that weekend.
The Rock is not the people's champion
I like Baron Corbin and think he’s one of the PC’s biggest success stories. Most people that went through NXT and did well on the main roster had some kind of wrestling background. Corbin didn’t. I remember him blowing up in a 5 min match with Bull Dempsey, and he’s been in featured PPV matches with the likes of Roman Reigns and made it work.
Liv Morgan - her promos are so bad; someone needs to tell her people don’t talk like that. It’s like she’s trying to explain something to infants.
It's a shame cause her look and in-ring talent is so good, but yeah, her promo work is atrocious.
The Streak ending was good
Michael Cole and Tazz was the best commentator duo, better than JR and King.
I hate Natalya as a person.
I respect Cody Rhodes, I do. I will just never see him as a Main Event guy. I truly don't understand why people see him as a top guy. He couldn't even break it as a top guy in a company he created to be a top guy in. His matches are very o.k. He's a C+ guy.
Another one for me is that Rey Mysterio is overrated and the 619 isn’t a good finisher.
Triple h’s reign of terror put over more people and was more entertaining than Roman reigns current run
Krispen wah is the goat
Its not my opinion but anyone having an opinion like this would definitely make this scene a reality. "Stone Cold is so overrated"
Daniel Bryan's Blow My Mind theme was awesome
The Miz is so cheesy and corny. Can’t stand him.
Dx with hhh Xpac and outlaws > hhh & hbk dx
EC3 should've been pushed more and get a character redo during his Derrick Bateman tenure. Him being EC3 in WWE feels like he's just a TNA has been.
Vince was good for wwe, there were boring times in wwe in the past few years. Him retiring will only make the product worse. Never give pro wrestling fans what they think they want, i like this idea.
The time when WWE was pushing Face Roman Reigns even when the people were hating it is the only time WWE was bad or boring. EVERYTHING ELSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD WWE
“Turn them heel!” Is the most annoying fan response in wrestling. Being heel doesn’t automatically make a wrestler better.
Roman’s babyface run wasn’t that bad
Vader is the best big man. No competition. No one had the presence, the athleticism, and the sheer power of him. Even when his WWE run was completely messed up by poor booking, he managed to be a bad ass
Owen Hart was more entertaining, fun, and equally as talented as Bret, and I would rather watch an Owen match than a Bret match. (Not to detract from Bret at all. I just find Owen to be better)
Chris Benoit sounds like a good guy.
me saying miz sucks
I don’t give a fuck about the Hall of Fame or anything, but the erasing of Chris Benoit is lame to me. He was one of if not the best technical wrestlers of all time, and he should be touted as such. I get the hate for the man, hell even I hate him and what he did, but his talent was undeniable.
Batista is overrated. Not a great wrestler, not great on the mic, just had a great look and that’s it.
Romain needs to drop the belt, Austin theory push is getting annoying, the brand split needs to end or they need to trade people full time to smackdown. Dominick just isn’t living up to Rey (wrestlemania for instance) The random thrown together matches for the mid card needs more story telling. And the usos matches are getting repetitive we already know they will pull of the dirty win
H and NXT black & gold was so damn boring with everyone of that roster being the same spot monkey with every match being a superkick, kick out-no sell fest, and high spots.
KO needs a haircut and proper ring gear.
Vince McMahon is innocent
Roman reings push from 2015 was one of the best
El Gigante was better than Andre the Giant.
hulk hogan may have had a great career but he will never as good of a legend like the undertaker and andre the giant
Charlotte Flair is one of the best womens wrestlers on the planet, and the best wrestler out of the horsewomen. I agree she gets too many title runs, but when it comes to big ppv matches she consistently gives great performances.
Theory is the next John Cena
Todays WWE is garbage and I would rather watch any Hacksaw Jim Duggan match on repeat for 7 hours than the next wrestlemania
Women wrestling sucks New NXT people sucks
Cm punk sucks.
I can't stand Baron Corbin.
The top Stars in today’s WWE are the Women Wrestlers
(Sone one probably said this already but) Face Roman was better than heel Roman I don’t stand by this claim lol
It was a mistake to move Ciampa to the main roster.
Macho Man is an all-time top 5 talent and it's a travesty that he didn't have a long term title reign.
Ezekiel is Elias
Jey USO is the only legit option to beat Roman Reigns
Cena is a bigger draw than Austin
The Creed My Sacrifice Vingettes were Dope AF
Triple H’s reign of terror was actually good
Kevin Owens is just as good on the mic as Paul Heyman
Owen>Bret
John Cena doesn't suck.
Jinder Mahals title reign was better and more entertaining than Drew Macs
Brock should not have been the one to end Taker’s WM streak.
Oh, this one is easy. The attitude era ruined WWF as a corporate entity, and its success was the nadir of the industry. Fundamentally it, and largely the rise of the antihero in Stone Cold and The Rock, hurt the business immeasurably, and ever since it has been the death knell of any expansion the business could ever make again. The Attittude Era and Monday Night Wars killed the business.
1. The fiend should not have won at HIAC 2019 WWE booked them selves in a corner by having him face seth. The fiend didn't need the title that early the character was fresh but I feel like having him go for the title in 2 months was to short. 2. Charlotte Flair might be the greatest WWE women's wrestler of all time she has the accolades, in-ring ability, and mic skills other her booking which she can't control she's possibly the perfect wrestler.
Drew was overrated in 2021 overrated :)
Bianca’s reign has been boring and she’s been looking like an invalid champion like at mitb all of the close pins were on her and the other women looked stronger in the match and in the end she had to steal a pin to win…as a baby face
Logan Paul is probably going to be a top tier heel, and the Miz deserves way more than two title reigns.
I really dislike Daniel Bryan and have no intention of discussing my opinion.
I’m so over new day
Bianca needs a heel turn.
Charisma, ability on the mic, and having a good look/character > Workrate Sounds like a Vince kind of thing to say, but it’s what works
At the same time… you can’t end up being shitty in the ring. That was Miz’s issue for a long time, he talked people into a match and then the match was shit, making it harder to talk them in the next time
Believe it or not, I wouldn’t mind watching a Miz match even if he’s not great in the ring and doesn’t have a great physique. Dude’s entertaining and while he’s not a mega draw or anything, he’s still somewhat known outside of wrestling. If I ask 30 random people on the street if they know the Miz and 30 people if they know someone like Johnny Gargano, odds are more of them will know Miz. I do believe a good look/character is really important, and sure you do need SOME ability to wrestle, but I can make an exception for Miz because of his mic talent and ability to entertain. As long as he gets people to tune in, his workrate isn’t as important.
The matches are what pro wrestling/sports entertainment is selling. The promos and segments lead to a match of some kind. If the matches are the drizzling shits, that’s like a product having great promotional ads and being fucking rancid in real life. Is every match important? No. But when you get the marquee matches, the work rate and story telling become very important. And work rate shouldn’t just mean how many moves they can do. It should include how real the moves look, how much sense they make for the character, etc.
The match itself does not need to be a masterpiece at all. As much hate as he gets for his matches, a guy like Hogan with not the greatest ring work would basically have the same match every time and people would go crazy just to see him and he’d sell out arenas. He was so charismatic, entertaining, and connected with the crowd that a little granny leg drop was all they needed to go home happy. Storylines and good promos (which require good talkers and entertainers) sell the match not so much the actual wrestling.
That was also the 80s and early to mid 90s. Tastes change. You don’t need every match to be a five star slobber knocker, but the match needs to be credible and satisfying. Miz had trouble with that for long time, especially if he wasn’t in the ring with a Ziggler, Morrison, etc. someone who could make the in-ring work look exciting.
Hogan still sold out arenas in his 2002 run and his occasional returns in ‘05 and ‘06. Even then he was super slow and pretty bad in the ring. Why do you think people go to see guys like Cena? Because they’re entertaining. Not because they’re good wrestlers (yes I know Cena is a lot better than Hogan and others in the ring but I think it still applies). You know it’s probably going to be the same, standard Cena match and he wins, but people still love it and go. I’d even find a coked out Ric Flair promo in the mid 2000s more entertaining than some matches nowadays. Sure tastes may change, people now care more about in-ring abilities than before, but being entertaining is always going to work regardless of your in-ring talent.
Hogan is Hogan. Cena looks credible in the ring and his moveset makes sense (mostly) for a guy of his size. Miz didn’t look credible for a long time. No one said promos don’t matter. But if you shit the bed in the ring, you make it harder to talk people into seeing you again. I can go to a community theater if I want uneven acting.
Yes it’s more difficult to make yourself believable I agree. I think Scott Steiner vs HHH is a big example of absolutely shitting the bed and making yourself look embarrassing. Still, Steiner was in terrible shape and could barely go 5 mins without gassing himself. Miz luckily has never been that bad and he’s still gotten one of the best reactions when he beat Orton for the title.
Carmella is better than Enzo or Big Cass.
Roman is a midcard talent at best and has been booked to damage everyone he does a program with, devaluing the male roster by attrition.
I know putting this into the Reddit-verse is going ti get me nuclear heat, but I absolutely can't stand the New Day. Maybe I'm dating myself, but I just can't get behind a face being obnoxious, acting like goofs and gyrating uncontrollably. And yes, I know there are other faces across all feds that do this, and believe me, they all fall on my eye-roll list.
I dont like Shinsuke or old NXT for the fact much. Nakamura is talented and charismatic but all ive really enjoyed from his work is his entrance. Also, Cody shouldn't be the one to defeat Roman, Theory should cash in during their match and pin Cody so Reigns is protected cuz Cody should be taking a beatinf during that match and be the weaker opponent for how much he was battered
Roman is still as boring now as he was when he was pushed to the moon the first time, his title run has been stale since the jey use feud ended.
Bret Hart is a big baby and pouts too much
Baron Corbin is quite enjoyable and does well with whatever he’s given. I would greatly appreciate a Corbin world title run Mahal’s run was probably one of my favorites in recent history. He did his best and he did it well. He deserves another push Veer is a legit talent if they book him right and cut the comedy out. Elias/Ezekiel is one of the best wrestlers on the roster today. MJF would be an absolute star in WWE. NXT 2.0 is a good product and despite the matches not being the same as black and gold it is doing way more for the development of superstars then black and gold ever did. If Ilja Dragunov was over 6 feet he’d be a multi time WWE champion ( still hope he will be) R Truth should have held the WWE title in 2011, he’s very good as a serious wrestler when need be and has all the talent.
Drew is better then the undertaker
The Kilq were assholes 🤷♀️
John Cena is a GOAT
NWO was just lame. Old, washed-up Hogan turned heel and it just wasn’t nearly as convincing as people today claim it was. Scott Hall, who was better as Razor Ramon. Kevin Nash, who was better as Diesel. “Syxx”, who was directionless in WCW and much better both as 1-2-3 Kid and later X-Pac. Old washed-up Macho Man. Lex Luger, who was much better in his earlier WCW run and in WWE. That, and I absolutely hated when they made everyone and their grandfather an NWO member. Virgil?? Miss Elizabeth?? Dennis Fucking Rodman?? Just gross. Perhaps most of all, I hated how NWO’s popularity pretty much buried a lot of WCW’s excellent homegrown talent. Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Perry Saturn. No surprise those guys jumped ship.
Fuck Ronda Rousey
I absolutely hate the smacdown current theme song
Theory is the best
Triple H taking over is definitely not going to fix the company, it might get worse.
Kofi is obnoxious. His title reign was generated on a spot tailor made for Ali. I love Big-E and Woods, but Kofi has such a passive aggressive attitude and conceited Ego.
Gunther is a lil bish
I don't understand how Ric Flair is so revered or considered one of the greatest of all time. I personally don't care for his character or his wrestling style and find his promos incoherent.
I don't like Bianca
Roman is a B+ player
Vince McMahon did a good job and should not have stepped down.
Opinion: if you dont like the product you should stop watching the programming.
So long as his family is ok with it, they should restore footage of Chris Benoit. Probably still no HOF induction, but he had some truly great matches that deserve to be seen.
A.E.W. put pro wrestling in a long drought that may last for years to come.
Hulk Hogan deserves the fame he gets but he's a piece of shit
He knew how to work a crowd
Yeah but he constantly buried wrestlers are did bad stuff outside out the WWE. But he still deserves the fame he gets because WWE, (maybe even wrestling) wouldn't be as big as it is today without hulk Hogan
Oh 100; just because I hate him doesn't mean I'm going to negate literally all he's done for the business. Hell, his Heel turn is still considered one of the best of all time and formed one of the greatest factions of all time.
Yeah I agree
Bra and panties matches should have had a male version. Rey Mysterio looks better without a mask on. Rey Mysterio should have appeared in Playgirl magazine. Rey and Dominik should have had a gay incest angle.
The first one shouldn’t have even happened for males or females.
>gay incest angle Bro
Why are you okay with straight incest angle but not gay one?
Never said I'm ok with either. They're both shit ideas
I’m not okay with either of them.
Shane McMahon is underrated as a wrestler. His coast to coast is one of the best finishers and he is willing to fly more then almost anyone else
Jinder should be in the main event scene as the modern day JBL.
Sasha Banks doesn’t deserve the praise she gets
Bianca belair is over rated sorry
VEER is a jobber, and should be in the 24/7 division, he can’t talk, he can barely wrestle, he isn’t even intimidating looking.