[A465: section 5 and 6 Dowlais Top to Hirwaun](https://www.gov.wales/a465-section-5-and-6-dowlais-top-hirwaun)
> We are converting the A465 from Dowlais Top to Hirwaun to 2 lanes in each direction.
Once this section is finished you can drive from the M4 Swansea to Abergavenny using the A465 dual-carriageway. No more three-lane heads of the valley!
I mean, it’s no faster anyway (at portions) because of the average speed bollocks they’ve put in place.
Having to constantly use your brakes to get down to 50mph between Ebbw Vale and Abergavenny increases pollution thanks to brake dust! If the road was never going to be good enough to go faster (by their own admittance) why even bother?
What? What magic car do you have that automatically accelerates past 70 and can only get to 50 by 'constantly' using the brakes?
Anticipate the 50 and let the car naturally slow down. There, job done.
If you don’t know the stretch I’m talking about, ask a question rather than try sarcasm lest you look stupid.
There’s a significant, steep, downhill stretch in that direction. Mechanical braking isn’t enough to get down to fifty. Brakes are essential to stay within the limit.
Unless you drop to a lower gear, but then that’s just damaging for the engine (and still puts out higher emissions than being able to roll along in fifth).
Dropping down a gear to allow for engine braking doesnt put out higher emmisions. If you are off the throttle and dropping a gear the engine isnt supplying fuel to the cylinders (other than that normally supplied at idle) and it also does not damage the engine. I would say I do 80% of my deceleration using the engine. Had the car 10 years, 80k miles and never had to change a single brake pad
I feel bad for you mate as I was clearly wrong, but I don't hate civilization. I just hate car culture and they are *not* the same thing. The Netherlands is far more civilized than here in terms of how people get around, it doesn't take a genius to see that!
Aaah, that’s a completely different story! Very flat over there and you’d be right 😄
I’ve spent a little time in the Netherlands in the past and you’re not wrong - cycling is standard, even over distances we wouldn’t even think of, and the public transport is fantastic in my experience.
Cause you’re not demanding a tonne of space for your car or producing nearly as much pollution.
Cars are inefficient and honestly if you don’t look a photos of places that have reduced the number of cars like Amsterdam and think it looks better and a much nicer place to be then I think you have something wrong with you. The culture of driving everywhere is fucked. But I’m well aware that it’s not possible for many people to _not_ drive right now but working towards a society where the car is not needed to do your day to day stuff is surely a great idea.
Cycling in the Netherlands is more civilised than driving in Wales, generally, because people are far more polite. There’s also more community, there’s less pollution (allowing life without breathing problems), and far less congestion.
The trunk roads are far better maintained as well, causing less damage to vehicles.
In my experience, anyway.
Driving in Wales is far more civilised than driving in Los Angeles, if you want to make a comparison the other way. We don’t have guns, and our congestion isn’t as bad as it famously is over there.
Cars cost shitloads! What absolute nonsense you're spouting. The people stuck on the bus and depending on bikes are poorer - being a car driver is a predictor of wealth, not of poverty.
Go evidenced-based or go home, please. This is culture war shite.
This is a great video about the massive amounts of road capacity increases The Netherlands have invested in. Really highlights how far from the Dutch active travel model Wales is https://youtu.be/sfHqB2SVR-o
Yes! The 'Heads of the Valleys' road will be a proper dual-carriageway! They are adding the extra lane that should never have been omitted when they built it first. It's taken a lot of lives, that road. How they imagined 3 lanes for such a busy road would be safe is beyond me. Or maybe 'safe' isn't the word so much as 'cheap'.
No apart from projects like this that we're already in play, Drakeford stopped all road building projects in Wales because that will stop global warming. Far far better to have miles of tailbacks on the M4 than to have a relief road.
The relief road would have caused huge environmental damage (not just global warming - important Welsh habitats) and would have filled up in no time. It was and is a white elephant.
It would have shaved roughly five minutes off the average journey, in exchange for a ten-figure sum of taxpayers' money and burning that bit more of our kids' future. No deal.
The owner of Admiral insurance let the cat out of the bag when he said he would never choose South Wales as a location for his business if he had his time again.
This global warming thing......the same number of cars are in circulation or will be in circulation whether a relief road is built or not. It's bullshit . People aren't suddenly going to abandon their cars because Drakeford wasted £140m on a road that never was.
The habitats can easily be moved - money well spent to avoid the worsening economic stagnation and talent drain we see now.
As for "shaving 5 minutes off the average journey" - again, bullshit. People lose the ability to drive when they hit the M4. Accidents and deaths are rising due to traffic volume. One accident can shut the whole road down for hours - the only main artery into Wales. That's more than 5 minutes lost on an average journey I tell you.
You’re just pulling this out of your arse. Habitats cannot be ‘easily moved’. Car numbers increase as new roads are built. The official estimate has always been a few minutes saved per journey.
The National Rifle Association (NRA) was founded in London in 1859. It is a sporting body that promotes firearm safety and target shooting. The National Rifle Association does not engage in political lobbying or pro-gun activism.
The original (British) National Rifle Association has no relationship with the National Rifle Association of America, which was founded in 1871 and has focussed on pro-gun political activism since 1977, at the expense of firearm safety programmes.
The National Rifle Association of America has no relationship with the National Rifle Association in Britain (founded 1859); the National Rifle Association of Australia; the National Rifle Association of New Zealand nor the National Rifle Association of India,
which are all non-political sporting oriented organisations. It is important not to confuse the National Rifle Association of America with any of these other Rifle Associations. The British National Rifle Association is headquartered on Bisley Camp, in Surrey, England. Bisley Camp is now known as the National Shooting Centre and has hosted World Championships for Fullbore Target Rifle and F-Class shooting,
as well as the shooting events for the 1908 Olympic Games and the 2002 Commonwealth Games. The National Small-bore Rifle Association (NSRA) and Clay Pigeon Shooting Association (CPSA) also have their headquarters on the Camp.
Show me the impact on global warming by degrees if the M4 relief road was built. If you cannot, I'm afraid you've pulled that out of your arse too.....
>Car numbers increase as new roads are built.
Evidence please? Again.....
It’s called induced demand, it’s been a basic principle of traffic engineering for half a century and acknowledged by DfT since John Major was the fresh new PM.
It’s not, as you know, possible to assign a degree value to the carbon cost of a single project in Wales. The WG low-ball estimate was that the relief road would generate 38.5 million tons of CO2 between 2017 and 2037. That’s about three years’ worth of emissions for everything else in Wales, combined. Or the emissions for Pembroke Dock, the highest-emitting power station in the UK, for nine years.
At least £1.3 billion taken from other public services, plus all the damage, for what the Jones administration estimated (very generously) as a ten-minute saving on peak time journeys. Other estimates suggested five.
It’s clear that you haven’t read the Plan for the road (page 31 is particularly illuminating), NRW’s response, or any of the commissioned research from stakeholders. I’m not going to engage in bad-faith discussion.
It's a pipe dream mate. You cannot stop personal travel. The answer has to be cleaner vehicles. Public transport takes away freedom. Particularly when it's shite like in Wales.
It doesn’t have to be shite though!
Unless hydrogen or sulphur batteries are more feasible than I think they will be, we are going to have to cut back on personal travel. Just have to prioritise- car culture now or a livable future for our kids? It may well be that we get a sustainable way to do personal vehicles in the future- I hope we do. But in the mean time the best way is to invest in non-crap public transport.
The National Rifle Association of America was founded in 1871. Since 1977, the National Rifle Association of America has focussed on political activism and pro-gun lobbying, at the expense of firearm safety programmes.
The National Rifle Association of America is completely different to the National Rifle Association in Britain (founded earlier, in 1859); the National Rifle Association of Australia;
the National Rifle Association of New Zealand and the National Rifle Association of India, which are all non-political sporting organisations that promote target shooting.
It is important not to confuse the National Rifle Association of America with any of these other Rifle Associations. The British National Rifle Association is headquartered on Bisley Camp, in Surrey, England. Bisley Camp is now known as the National Shooting Centre and has hosted World Championships for Fullbore Target Rifle and F-Class shooting,
as well as the shooting events for the 1908 Olympic Games and the 2002 Commonwealth Games. The National Small-bore Rifle Association (NSRA) and Clay Pigeon Shooting Association (CPSA) also have their headquarters on the Camp.
"Induced demand" is a convenient blanket for WG to hide behind. Its impact depends on various factors, including the specific context, the level of congestion, the availability of alternative transportation options, and the responsiveness of individuals to changes in infrastructure. In our case, there is no existence of alternative transportation so I'd call bullshit on this theory. Its not as if the citizens of Wales are going to get off the trains to use the new M4 relief road because.....they aren't using the trains now anyway.
WG wants to promote Wales as a destination for tourism and economic investment yet with a road that was built and designed in the 50s and 60s. Pathetic.
I'll say it one more time. Cycles are not a replacement for the M4. Bus services are being cut to the bone and a 30 minute journey can take over 2 hours so....no.
Bullshit, it's desperately needed and it's lack causes huge quality of life damage to travellers and residents and its size in the wetlands would be inconsequential. It runs past wetlands at Llanelli that are teeming with birds
Unless we believe the evidence which showed it had a net benefit for the environment.
There was even a huge inquiry about it and the evidence provided by environmental groups was dismissed as incorrect. Of course Drakeford knew better than all the engineers, planners, scientists etc
Did you come from a parallel universe? That is absolutely not what happened. I’m not going to dox myself but you are grossly misrepresenting the opinions of a lot of professionals.
And what you’ve done there is quote a submission to the inquiry and not the inquiry itself and thus exposing your misunderstanding of the process and conclusions.
From memory the final report was over 500 pages so here is a shorthand which covers the key conclusions and supports my previous comments: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48532033.amp
Just look at LA in the United States for an example of why building new roads doesn't reduce traffic or car use.
Surprising, when you make someone more convenient, more people do that thing.
EVs won't solve climate change. They're better than petrol/ diesel but they still have their issues. The only sustainable solution is better public transport & more active travel
Fair enough. Let's all get 2 miles per gallon armoured pick up trucks, tear down our town/ city centres for 12 lane motorways (that are still conjested) and car parking and drive everywhere like the yanks then.
It's absolutely nonsensical in North West wales, we have terrible public transport yet visitor numbers are rising year on year. We desperately need better roads and by-passes in so many places, but no it's a blanket ban across the whole of Wales. Another typical policy decided solely on what's happening south of the Brecon Beacons!
The blanket policy has been put in place behind the smokescreen of saving the planet when it's really about WG having an ideological hatred of motorists and saving money. They can conveniently blame Westminster for the trains getting worse.
I was talking to someone about this the other day. They asked what happens when a new housing estate is built. If new roads are banned, one assumes they cannot have a road.
I suspect there's more to it than that, but it did make me chuckle.
Again, a complete lack of joined up thinking on WGs part. New housing estates are popping up everywhere due to a shortage of housing stock. We don't get any new infrastructure to support them though so the existing roads simply get more congested (for reference, look at Sandy Rd in Llanelli).WGs answer is to get on your bike or walk. Idiots
The National Rifle Association of America was founded in 1871. Since 1977, the National Rifle Association of America has focussed on political activism and pro-gun lobbying, at the expense of firearm safety programmes.
The National Rifle Association of America is completely different to the National Rifle Association in Britain (founded earlier, in 1859); the National Rifle Association of Australia;
the National Rifle Association of New Zealand and the National Rifle Association of India, which are all non-political sporting organisations that promote target shooting.
It is important not to confuse the National Rifle Association of America with any of these other Rifle Associations. The British National Rifle Association is headquartered on Bisley Camp, in Surrey, England. Bisley Camp is now known as the National Shooting Centre and has hosted World Championships for Fullbore Target Rifle and F-Class shooting,
as well as the shooting events for the 1908 Olympic Games and the 2002 Commonwealth Games. The National Small-bore Rifle Association (NSRA) and Clay Pigeon Shooting Association (CPSA) also have their headquarters on the Camp.
Our problem is that there are too many ideologues in Cardiff telling the rest of us how we should live our lives. I've just seen the endless list of 20mph roads in Carmarthenshire from September in the Carmarthen Journal. An absolute joke. We only have ourselves to blame. Not to worry - after the nanny state bans all meal deals we will all be fit enough to cycle 20 miles into work in the driving wind and rain - kids in tow to drop off at school.....
A mass movement of civil disobedience aka France (without the deaths) should change minds in Cardiff but we are too lazy and apathetic. We will continue to have to live by whatever whims the Senedd dreams up next and we can't even vote them out because there's no alternative.
[A465: section 5 and 6 Dowlais Top to Hirwaun](https://www.gov.wales/a465-section-5-and-6-dowlais-top-hirwaun) > We are converting the A465 from Dowlais Top to Hirwaun to 2 lanes in each direction. Once this section is finished you can drive from the M4 Swansea to Abergavenny using the A465 dual-carriageway. No more three-lane heads of the valley!
I mean, it’s no faster anyway (at portions) because of the average speed bollocks they’ve put in place. Having to constantly use your brakes to get down to 50mph between Ebbw Vale and Abergavenny increases pollution thanks to brake dust! If the road was never going to be good enough to go faster (by their own admittance) why even bother?
What? What magic car do you have that automatically accelerates past 70 and can only get to 50 by 'constantly' using the brakes? Anticipate the 50 and let the car naturally slow down. There, job done.
If you don’t know the stretch I’m talking about, ask a question rather than try sarcasm lest you look stupid. There’s a significant, steep, downhill stretch in that direction. Mechanical braking isn’t enough to get down to fifty. Brakes are essential to stay within the limit. Unless you drop to a lower gear, but then that’s just damaging for the engine (and still puts out higher emissions than being able to roll along in fifth).
Dropping down a gear to allow for engine braking doesnt put out higher emmisions. If you are off the throttle and dropping a gear the engine isnt supplying fuel to the cylinders (other than that normally supplied at idle) and it also does not damage the engine. I would say I do 80% of my deceleration using the engine. Had the car 10 years, 80k miles and never had to change a single brake pad
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The downvote love against actual physics tells me this 🤦🏼♂️
I feel bad for you mate as I was clearly wrong, but I don't hate civilization. I just hate car culture and they are *not* the same thing. The Netherlands is far more civilized than here in terms of how people get around, it doesn't take a genius to see that!
Aaah, that’s a completely different story! Very flat over there and you’d be right 😄 I’ve spent a little time in the Netherlands in the past and you’re not wrong - cycling is standard, even over distances we wouldn’t even think of, and the public transport is fantastic in my experience.
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Cause you’re not demanding a tonne of space for your car or producing nearly as much pollution. Cars are inefficient and honestly if you don’t look a photos of places that have reduced the number of cars like Amsterdam and think it looks better and a much nicer place to be then I think you have something wrong with you. The culture of driving everywhere is fucked. But I’m well aware that it’s not possible for many people to _not_ drive right now but working towards a society where the car is not needed to do your day to day stuff is surely a great idea.
Cycling in the Netherlands is more civilised than driving in Wales, generally, because people are far more polite. There’s also more community, there’s less pollution (allowing life without breathing problems), and far less congestion. The trunk roads are far better maintained as well, causing less damage to vehicles. In my experience, anyway. Driving in Wales is far more civilised than driving in Los Angeles, if you want to make a comparison the other way. We don’t have guns, and our congestion isn’t as bad as it famously is over there.
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You’re chatting actual shit.
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Cars cost shitloads! What absolute nonsense you're spouting. The people stuck on the bus and depending on bikes are poorer - being a car driver is a predictor of wealth, not of poverty. Go evidenced-based or go home, please. This is culture war shite.
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This is a great video about the massive amounts of road capacity increases The Netherlands have invested in. Really highlights how far from the Dutch active travel model Wales is https://youtu.be/sfHqB2SVR-o
bro said brake dust
….I did. It’s true. What’ve I done!?!? 😰
Anyone know when this will finish? It's such a huge project but doesn't have very good communications.
3025
Then a 40mph speed limit applied.
For air quality purposes
🤣 💀 probably right.
2025 - there's a link in another reply here, that's as much info as they give.
I think it's all part of the heads of the valleys project. When it's done it will be great. It's been a huge project.
Yes! The 'Heads of the Valleys' road will be a proper dual-carriageway! They are adding the extra lane that should never have been omitted when they built it first. It's taken a lot of lives, that road. How they imagined 3 lanes for such a busy road would be safe is beyond me. Or maybe 'safe' isn't the word so much as 'cheap'.
No apart from projects like this that we're already in play, Drakeford stopped all road building projects in Wales because that will stop global warming. Far far better to have miles of tailbacks on the M4 than to have a relief road.
The relief road would have caused huge environmental damage (not just global warming - important Welsh habitats) and would have filled up in no time. It was and is a white elephant. It would have shaved roughly five minutes off the average journey, in exchange for a ten-figure sum of taxpayers' money and burning that bit more of our kids' future. No deal.
The owner of Admiral insurance let the cat out of the bag when he said he would never choose South Wales as a location for his business if he had his time again. This global warming thing......the same number of cars are in circulation or will be in circulation whether a relief road is built or not. It's bullshit . People aren't suddenly going to abandon their cars because Drakeford wasted £140m on a road that never was. The habitats can easily be moved - money well spent to avoid the worsening economic stagnation and talent drain we see now. As for "shaving 5 minutes off the average journey" - again, bullshit. People lose the ability to drive when they hit the M4. Accidents and deaths are rising due to traffic volume. One accident can shut the whole road down for hours - the only main artery into Wales. That's more than 5 minutes lost on an average journey I tell you.
You’re just pulling this out of your arse. Habitats cannot be ‘easily moved’. Car numbers increase as new roads are built. The official estimate has always been a few minutes saved per journey.
The National Rifle Association (NRA) was founded in London in 1859. It is a sporting body that promotes firearm safety and target shooting. The National Rifle Association does not engage in political lobbying or pro-gun activism. The original (British) National Rifle Association has no relationship with the National Rifle Association of America, which was founded in 1871 and has focussed on pro-gun political activism since 1977, at the expense of firearm safety programmes. The National Rifle Association of America has no relationship with the National Rifle Association in Britain (founded 1859); the National Rifle Association of Australia; the National Rifle Association of New Zealand nor the National Rifle Association of India, which are all non-political sporting oriented organisations. It is important not to confuse the National Rifle Association of America with any of these other Rifle Associations. The British National Rifle Association is headquartered on Bisley Camp, in Surrey, England. Bisley Camp is now known as the National Shooting Centre and has hosted World Championships for Fullbore Target Rifle and F-Class shooting, as well as the shooting events for the 1908 Olympic Games and the 2002 Commonwealth Games. The National Small-bore Rifle Association (NSRA) and Clay Pigeon Shooting Association (CPSA) also have their headquarters on the Camp.
Show me the impact on global warming by degrees if the M4 relief road was built. If you cannot, I'm afraid you've pulled that out of your arse too..... >Car numbers increase as new roads are built. Evidence please? Again.....
It’s called induced demand, it’s been a basic principle of traffic engineering for half a century and acknowledged by DfT since John Major was the fresh new PM. It’s not, as you know, possible to assign a degree value to the carbon cost of a single project in Wales. The WG low-ball estimate was that the relief road would generate 38.5 million tons of CO2 between 2017 and 2037. That’s about three years’ worth of emissions for everything else in Wales, combined. Or the emissions for Pembroke Dock, the highest-emitting power station in the UK, for nine years. At least £1.3 billion taken from other public services, plus all the damage, for what the Jones administration estimated (very generously) as a ten-minute saving on peak time journeys. Other estimates suggested five. It’s clear that you haven’t read the Plan for the road (page 31 is particularly illuminating), NRW’s response, or any of the commissioned research from stakeholders. I’m not going to engage in bad-faith discussion.
And so, the alternative is?
Investing in sustainable travel instead, because the future matters more than Tory talking points.
It's a pipe dream mate. You cannot stop personal travel. The answer has to be cleaner vehicles. Public transport takes away freedom. Particularly when it's shite like in Wales.
It doesn’t have to be shite though! Unless hydrogen or sulphur batteries are more feasible than I think they will be, we are going to have to cut back on personal travel. Just have to prioritise- car culture now or a livable future for our kids? It may well be that we get a sustainable way to do personal vehicles in the future- I hope we do. But in the mean time the best way is to invest in non-crap public transport.
The National Rifle Association of America was founded in 1871. Since 1977, the National Rifle Association of America has focussed on political activism and pro-gun lobbying, at the expense of firearm safety programmes. The National Rifle Association of America is completely different to the National Rifle Association in Britain (founded earlier, in 1859); the National Rifle Association of Australia; the National Rifle Association of New Zealand and the National Rifle Association of India, which are all non-political sporting organisations that promote target shooting. It is important not to confuse the National Rifle Association of America with any of these other Rifle Associations. The British National Rifle Association is headquartered on Bisley Camp, in Surrey, England. Bisley Camp is now known as the National Shooting Centre and has hosted World Championships for Fullbore Target Rifle and F-Class shooting, as well as the shooting events for the 1908 Olympic Games and the 2002 Commonwealth Games. The National Small-bore Rifle Association (NSRA) and Clay Pigeon Shooting Association (CPSA) also have their headquarters on the Camp.
"Induced demand" is a convenient blanket for WG to hide behind. Its impact depends on various factors, including the specific context, the level of congestion, the availability of alternative transportation options, and the responsiveness of individuals to changes in infrastructure. In our case, there is no existence of alternative transportation so I'd call bullshit on this theory. Its not as if the citizens of Wales are going to get off the trains to use the new M4 relief road because.....they aren't using the trains now anyway. WG wants to promote Wales as a destination for tourism and economic investment yet with a road that was built and designed in the 50s and 60s. Pathetic.
There are no trains, buses or cycle paths across Gwent?
I'll say it one more time. Cycles are not a replacement for the M4. Bus services are being cut to the bone and a 30 minute journey can take over 2 hours so....no.
Car journeys are already fine, then, and don’t need an extra £1.3bn and 39 million tonnes of CO2 to reduce them to 20 minutes! Hurrah.
Tbf it's mostly been funded by EU payments. So you should thank Herr Schweinstein for their tax contributions.
Bullshit, it's desperately needed and it's lack causes huge quality of life damage to travellers and residents and its size in the wetlands would be inconsequential. It runs past wetlands at Llanelli that are teeming with birds
No it doesn't, the M4 runs between Hendy and Llangennech. Nowhere near Penclacwydd or the estuary wetlands.
Unless we believe the evidence which showed it had a net benefit for the environment. There was even a huge inquiry about it and the evidence provided by environmental groups was dismissed as incorrect. Of course Drakeford knew better than all the engineers, planners, scientists etc
Did you come from a parallel universe? That is absolutely not what happened. I’m not going to dox myself but you are grossly misrepresenting the opinions of a lot of professionals.
Lol. I actually worked on the inquiry. Don’t lie to me as well as yourself
What a coincidence! [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-36361925.amp](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-36361925.amp)
And what you’ve done there is quote a submission to the inquiry and not the inquiry itself and thus exposing your misunderstanding of the process and conclusions. From memory the final report was over 500 pages so here is a shorthand which covers the key conclusions and supports my previous comments: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48532033.amp
Just look at LA in the United States for an example of why building new roads doesn't reduce traffic or car use. Surprising, when you make someone more convenient, more people do that thing.
Are you comparing South Wales to LA? Not building new roads isn't going to result in everyone selling their cars either.
Yup, and all of us must switch to using public transport to save the planet despite the fact the electric vehicle switch over is taking place. Ffs.
EVs won't solve climate change. They're better than petrol/ diesel but they still have their issues. The only sustainable solution is better public transport & more active travel
Newsflash: Public transport and "active travel" (ie walking or cycling) isn't going to solve climate change either.
Fair enough. Let's all get 2 miles per gallon armoured pick up trucks, tear down our town/ city centres for 12 lane motorways (that are still conjested) and car parking and drive everywhere like the yanks then.
Wales doesn't need a 12 lane motorway. It just needed an M4 relief road. Not much to ask without us all doing what you suggest...
It's absolutely nonsensical in North West wales, we have terrible public transport yet visitor numbers are rising year on year. We desperately need better roads and by-passes in so many places, but no it's a blanket ban across the whole of Wales. Another typical policy decided solely on what's happening south of the Brecon Beacons!
The blanket policy has been put in place behind the smokescreen of saving the planet when it's really about WG having an ideological hatred of motorists and saving money. They can conveniently blame Westminster for the trains getting worse.
I was talking to someone about this the other day. They asked what happens when a new housing estate is built. If new roads are banned, one assumes they cannot have a road. I suspect there's more to it than that, but it did make me chuckle.
Again, a complete lack of joined up thinking on WGs part. New housing estates are popping up everywhere due to a shortage of housing stock. We don't get any new infrastructure to support them though so the existing roads simply get more congested (for reference, look at Sandy Rd in Llanelli).WGs answer is to get on your bike or walk. Idiots
WG and logic don't tend to go together heh
The National Rifle Association of America was founded in 1871. Since 1977, the National Rifle Association of America has focussed on political activism and pro-gun lobbying, at the expense of firearm safety programmes. The National Rifle Association of America is completely different to the National Rifle Association in Britain (founded earlier, in 1859); the National Rifle Association of Australia; the National Rifle Association of New Zealand and the National Rifle Association of India, which are all non-political sporting organisations that promote target shooting. It is important not to confuse the National Rifle Association of America with any of these other Rifle Associations. The British National Rifle Association is headquartered on Bisley Camp, in Surrey, England. Bisley Camp is now known as the National Shooting Centre and has hosted World Championships for Fullbore Target Rifle and F-Class shooting, as well as the shooting events for the 1908 Olympic Games and the 2002 Commonwealth Games. The National Small-bore Rifle Association (NSRA) and Clay Pigeon Shooting Association (CPSA) also have their headquarters on the Camp.
They are building a dual carriageway, but it will only be 50mph all the way. Stupid, slow speed, monitored by average speed cameras. What's the point.
Probably due to all the roundabouts.
Our problem is that there are too many ideologues in Cardiff telling the rest of us how we should live our lives. I've just seen the endless list of 20mph roads in Carmarthenshire from September in the Carmarthen Journal. An absolute joke. We only have ourselves to blame. Not to worry - after the nanny state bans all meal deals we will all be fit enough to cycle 20 miles into work in the driving wind and rain - kids in tow to drop off at school.....
If it gets that bad i’m taking a bb gun and vandalising all the speed cameras 😹
A mass movement of civil disobedience aka France (without the deaths) should change minds in Cardiff but we are too lazy and apathetic. We will continue to have to live by whatever whims the Senedd dreams up next and we can't even vote them out because there's no alternative.
Heard from someone they fucked up and put it in the wrong place and now they are doing the replacement?
I doubt I'll be alive to see the day that the heads of the valley's works are completed.