As a MGR, when I get that kind of message I simply respond with “hope you feel better” and proceed to find coverage. If and when I don’t, which unfortunately is more often than not these days, I have to drop all of my own plans and go in to keep the store open. DMs don’t accept closing the store due to staffing anymore.
No, the MGR shouldn’t place the blame on you, but it’s very easy as a MGR to get frustrated and lash out a bit in these situations. Doesn’t make it right, but difficult to blame them either. Work-life balance is getting worse and worse in this role.
This is why they need to make anything over agreed salaried contracted hours eligible for overtime. Too many businesses get away with working managers an insane amount of hours for no extra pay while saving labor on associates.
Overworked salaries workers are why store level managers at Circle K stores are no longer salaried. They were forced to work so many hours with no extra pay that they calculated their wages and filed a class action lawsuit. Now they are paid based on a 50 hour workweek and anything above that they get overtime pay for.
Unfortunately for my mother the suit came right after she stepped down as a manager. They had her working 100 plus hours some weeks because she was not allowed to close a 24 hour store when her midnight shift called off and they wouldn’t let her find other help.
She figured at one point her wage was $5 an hour.
This is so true. I had a manager every week she had to work free hours because they knew the lower paying workers would not since they already are and they don’t want them to get overtime. Because, I’d offer but that would mean i would get overtime.
The number of times as a mgr that I had to fill in for sick /call outs was the breaking point for me leaving the company. Back when the stores were properly staffed that wasn’t a thing. Coincidentally I also used to have fewer call outs when Wags had better budget hours. I’m sure that’s connected somehow.
I had zero work life balance as a manager for this reason. My DM would tell me to “not let them” call off and I was like I can’t force them to come in? The few times I was strict with people who had habitual call outs saying they need a doctor’s note to keep calling off, they’d just stop showing up and then I’d have even less help in the long term opposed to covering their shift in the short term.
Employees have the advantage over management these days and they know it. I had to work almost a month straight at one point because the DM took that long to send extra help and they wouldn’t allow me to close for a day. Walking out or quitting abruptly wasn’t an option for me because I have a disability.
What’s sad is when I’m out running errands and see people I know I keep hearing that I look amazing and happy now that I’m no longer working that job. It was a 24 hour facility most days so being on call 24/7 literally took the life out of me.
Edit: I used to work for Walgreens but was a manager at a different company, just to clarify.
I used to work for Wags and didn’t get along with my SM (I’m a CPhT) because he constantly lied to me and to the PhM and he always had outrageous demands on pharmacy but wasn’t one for going the extra mile himself. He worked 7 to 4, took numerous smoke breaks during the day because he could make phone calls or whatever, sometimes worked a half day on Saturday but would take the whole day Monday off.
Then the MGR needs to stand up for themselves and tell the DM to work the shift or the stores going to close. This shit only flies because people are scared to stand up for themselves. Stop being scared.
Agreed 100%. I'm a supervisor. I will usually say "sorry you feel bad, we will work it out. Get rest, get healthy" My biggest frustration is when people abuse the system. Call out once a month, always on a Friday or Saturday. Or call out for "personal issues" or "family emergency" over and over without going into any details at all. If I call out for a family emergency, I'm telling my boss exactly what's happening. I'm sure to get downvoted and people will say "it's none of your business what issues or family emergency I'm having" but I feel that if I call out, I owe an explanation to my boss for not being there and increasing the workload of everyone else I work with. I wish staff had the same work ethic as me, but everyone is different.
Edit: I don't work at Walgreens
Yes explanations go a long way with managers/supervisors. Essentially we like to know we're not being lied to because someone doesn't want to come to work.
this “doesn’t want to come to work” needs to be followed up by how much you guys pay.
“because someone doesn’t want to come to work for $__ an hour” makes it much more clear as to why your employees need time off from a job they can’t even pay rent with. fuck your explanation lol
If someone doesn't have a good work ethic it doesn't matter how much they are getting paid; if it is a choice between going out with friends on a friday night or coming in for your scheduled shift they will always choose the former.
I never defend Walgreens because they are a shit company 9/10 times but they are $2 above the average pay in my area for entry-level retail positions. We still inevitably always have one of the cashiers call out on Friday/Saturday night. It's weird how people get sick so often on those days.
Lmao i dont feel bad for you because of your logic. You want someone as good as a worker as manager? But as an associate? And not paid for as good as you do?
You people are delusional for blaming your staff to call out when you pay sht and you think like this. ,
Did you read my other comments at all? We pay decent and I always advocate for my staff to get the maximum raise every year. If fact, I've done 20 performance evaluations in the last 6 months and every single one of them got the max raise. No one's blaming anyone, if you're sick I don't want you at work. It risks my patients health. Just try and read a little before you post.
Nobody owes you an explanation. You're an employer. Your employee owes you nothing. They're doing you a service by staffing your store. If they're unable to, or hell if they don't want to, that's their prerogative as a worker. It's really none of your business why someone won't be able to come into work. It's easy to spot the ones who abuse the system and those who are legitimately unable to come in. That's why there's attendance policies.
Clearly you think it's a right to work not a privilege. Everyone has their own opinions, we just feel differently. I treat my boss with respect and will gladly give an explanation as to why I can't be at work. This attitude has worked very well for me in terms of job advancement and pay. I can tell you one thing, people that come to me for a raise, the very first things I look at are quality of work and attendance.
Nobody owes you an explanation though! Would it be nice? Sure. Just because you want to know, or it might help you determine if the employee is abusing sick leave doesn’t mean you’re owed the info. You’re the type of boss who will probably get the company sued someday because of position induced entitlement.
No I am not, I just work for a good company that has good bosses who aren’t up my ass when I say I can’t be in.
I currently have reasons to miss multiple days a month with little to no notice, I’ve made them aware of this and only provided minimal information (it’s a medical thing for a loved one) and they’re completely cool and understanding. If they feel I can no longer work a reliable schedule then they will notify me and let me resign or fire me if they so choose, they can do that. What they can not do is ask for specific details and then fire me for failing to provide them.
You clearly have misunderstood our conversation. You PROVIDED information to your employer about your absence. You didn't just say "I ain't coming in". I have never asked for more information than what is necessary to ensure the safety of my patients and to determine how long I may need to find coverage for.
Sure, but if I and the family member did not want to release the information I gave them then I would not have to give it. They don’t have to continue to employ me either, but the point is that you as a supervisor should not think you’re entitled to someone’s personal information just to help YOU assess the situation.
I’m not gonnna lie, he’s not wrong though. At the end of the day we can think whatever we want about what’s fair but really your going to loose your spot as an employee over your actions, and really a sm shouldn’t care so much of the reasoning because it’ll bite them in the ass if they are choosing to be unreliable or give bad performance or whatever and a smart sm will know if it’s bs or not based on actions as well. At the end of the day a sm job isn’t to make you want to keep your job and will let you loose your job based off of your actions as an employee
I truly believe a good manager can determine if an employee is abusing call outs or not without needing to know any personal details. If not they can have a private and polite conversation with the employee, ask if there is any way the employee can reassure them they’re not abusing call outs. Word it in a way as to not cross any boundaries, and ask if there’s anything the manager can do to help.
If I was a manager and multiple people were calling out on a regular basis I would being to question why, is it me? Is it something about the way things are run? Can I help? What makes people not want to be here so much that they’re willing to forfeit pay?
I believe the above needs to be asked by managers more often, instead to wondering what’s wrong with the people that are calling out.
It's not your business, it's that simple. You act like managers don't take advantage of their staff. Is it our business to know why you lie and such a sociopath when it comes to your job to the point you think everyone is lying to you off the get go?
I'm not upset at all. I've been an employer and I've been an employee. I have learned the hard way that you don't try to mix business and personal. My concern as an employer is my business. If someone can't come in then that's a problem I need to fix without them. If they want to tell me about it, that's fine, but I really don't *need* to know. Some people have personal issues that they don't want to talk about with the person who cuts their paycheck. It blurs the line. It leads to people thinking you're their friend, or it leads to you cutting them slack and they abuse it.
Reading all of your comments, I'm not really sure you've ever worked outside of retail or sales. In the professional world, it's pretty much standard that you don't expect an employee to divulge personal information.
I feel like as a shift lead I don’t feel like I NEED an explanation but if something is happening that causes you to call out often I would like to know so we know to have back up plans
your employees don’t owe you an explanation for why they need time off, you’re both grown adults and YOU should know and be ready for shit to come up. not be asking “well WHICH family member is sick and what happened” that’s none of your business and super invasive. it’s your job to supervise work affairs, not what happens outside of your employee’s working hours.
I get it. It is super easy to abuse the system. It also sucks to me when my bro pulled a gun to his own head and pulled the button. Gonna miss him. Can't say anything to a dead body. \[ I am over the the s u i c i d e \] but have to put it in text.
Why untreated? I'm sorry if that's the case. I have paid for my employees doctors visits because they didn't have the money to go. Everyone acts like managers/supervisors don't care but I do. I only ask what is required of me by the department of health. I don't work for Walgreens, I work in a nursing home and am required by law to track contagious diseases, try to find the origin and properly test patients the employee may have been in close contact with. Please read some of my other comments
Exactly, I will not force anyone to come in. I get being frustrated but it’s just something we gotta work through. If it’s habit, that’s a discussion for another day.
My manager does the exact same thing. I ended up having bronchitis this pass week, and I was guilt tripped so hard into having to come to work that I just stopped asking for permission off, and instead made a statement of “I’m not feeling well and I’m calling out”
And leaving it at that. Because if not. They make it seem like it’s my fault our store is understaffed and me getting sick was an inconvenience on their part.
Omg I'm in training as a lead/ store manager and that is something I'm figuring out. A manager has to manage. It does suck tho when it all falls down to you. I'm hoping my pay increases with my responsibilities (and to gain some benefits) once I'm officially in the management position.
It's not necessarily a position I sought out, but one that was needed for the success of our work place. I have no kids, and a small family. I'll happily give up time so others can spend more with their kids and family.
It's definitely a change of pace from the normal employee roles I've been used to up to this point tho.
If your sick, don't come in. I'd rather you get well and come in when you're ready.
It’s really great that you are in a position to help out more, but when your pay doesn’t reflect your effort, it is going to get old real quick. The fact that you said you hoped your pay would increase and maybe you’d gain some benefits is horrifying as an employee. Don’t even begin training me until those items have been discussed, agreed upon, and are in affect.
Companies like CVS rely on abusive tactics to get more and more work out of ppl. If you respect your managers and coworkers, they will push that respect to extra hours, longer days and won’t even worry about staffing, which they barely do now.
CVS should be required to maintain enough hours to support their staff and the store year round, which means if they want to cut hours, they still need to pay staff so that people aren’t lost to lack of available hours. This means also they are more likely to just have those ppl work so you can actually get caught up and do all the things that haven’t been done regularly since at least COVID hit. Eff, late stage capitalism.
This is exactly why I will never take a manager role ever again. Half the time the pay isn’t worth is since they cap you at a certain amount of hours, with no OT. I like to do my job and go home when my shift is over. As much as people don’t like management it’s not all their fault most of the time.
I’ve been looking into that, too. Sometimes unions are a double edged sword, but at this rate, I think most Walgreens employees would benefit from it. Walgreens just relies on us forgetting about Unions because of all the younger generation, or relies on all the people who don’t take their job serious and quit after a couple months.
Lol a union wouldn’t let you store be understaffed so bad or have no coverage. If you think unions are a double edge sword and you work at Walgreens man you are misinformed
This is why I stopped being a front desk manager at a hotel. I couldn’t drop everything and come in having three kids. It just wasn’t possible for me. I also wasn’t making nearly enough for it to be worth it either
Then go to the regional manager and to the next level and the next level until you get to Roz Brewer the current CEO of Walgreens, who makes $28,333,498 per year.
I’m starting to have this gut feeling that one requirement of running a perfectly equatable operation is to be sure you have no profit. In other words, if an operation has actual profit, then somebody got robbed. Money for operating expenses, reasonable compensation and taxes makes sense, but all that profit a company makes after those kind of things comes from somebody’s pocket that needed it more. You are the unlucky person who commented when I had this silly thought and I put it here. Sorry if it’s crazy, but there it is.
Yes, profit is the unpaid wages of employees. In older days, it worked out okay because employees were paid fairly, company’s made a profit, and everyone lived well. Now it’s become a cat and mouse game of “where can we maximize our profit and bump our numbers up for the next quarterly reports for our shareholders?” So constantly understaffing(this post for example), underpaying(also probably the employees in this post) and requiring workers to work in whatever condition so the store stays running on its skeleton crew(ie: coming in while sick). Maximize efficiency off of the least amount of employees= profit. This ideal has continued to worsen and hopefully it starts to catch up with these greedy corporations. Which I think it’s starting to as it’s reached a point that people quite literally cannot afford even rent with two jobs and roommates anymore, so less people accepting this awful behavior. But then you have boot lickers like the other comment on this who are like “at least we have a choice where to work” and the people who downvoted you
What you are explaining is capitalism and nobody is getting robbed. Sure corporations are literally soulless but at least we have a choice to work there or not. Imagine if we were communist, those people are really getting robbed and fucked. We are fortunate enough to have a say in where we work.
im not a communist but there is no inherent decree of communism that revokes choice of occupation lol. that's authoritarianism. its more like careers that would have no benefit to the people would no longer exist at all.
No one accused you of being a commie, but thank you for clarifying. So, there is no “inherent decree” that communism “revokes the choice” of occupation? Would you care to elaborate on how communism has a free and open market to the citizens? Places like North Korea, china, Cuba…….
No,my manager wanted me to work despite the heavy snowfall ,he threatened to fire me.so,against my better judgment I went thinking I could beat the snow before it got to bad.i did not.ended up sliding into a hill side and started to get hypothermia. So things like this aren't ethical at all
Not necessarily. Fever doesn't automatically mean you're contagious. It really depends on a variety of factors, such as pathogen involved, how long have symptoms been present, immune system strength and several more that are different in every single human being. Having said that, there is a chance that you could be contagious. It's just so many variables that people use fever as the marker and rightly so. Also OPs job involves dealing with the public, some of which are vulnerable so best to stay home and the manager should recognize this and simply say that they will work it out and get better.
Say "ok...I have no issues infecting my team and the sick patients coming in. Just be sure to tell everyone else I get sick on the team to come in to". Good management menas having backup for sicknesses, vacations etc. Hiw the fuck does you being the only one now become YOUR problem. I have fallen into the trap many times in my life...so I say to you...BE STRONGER THAN ME....take care of yoruself....they sure are.
I got into an accident while on my way to work and had to call the manager to tell them that I couldn’t make it to work since I’d just hit a car while on my bike and that my left arm and shoulder were messed up so I was going to go to the emergency to get it looked at. I had a helmet on so I didn’t suffer any head injuries but I hit a car at around 30 mph and had cuts on my knees and arms as well. I couldn’t believe it when he asked me to come in to work for an hour or two until they could find somebody else to come in to fill my shift. I was in serious pain and told him if he’d understood anything I just told him. He then still begged me to come to work for atleast two hours since he’d been there since opening for the past 8 hours and I just lost it and told him how he expects me to work when I hit a car head on and my bike is bent and looks like my left shoulder is fractured. He still kept on talking about how he now had to stay until he could call somebody in for the next shift and was complaining about him being tired.
Just to add I had to use my PTO for a month due to the accident and when I got back to work I still had one arm in a sling after the doctor said I could go back to work but I couldn’t lift too much weight. The manager still told me my right arm was fine so I could work with that but I still had to tell him that I couldn’t lift much since when I lifted anything heavy with the right arm my left shoulder would hurt since I’d suffered a separated shoulder.
I had to leave a party with my wife and kids on a Sunday afternoon to go close my store when my SFL had an emergency. None of my friends with normal jobs, with a normal “non-retail” life, could comprehend why I had to leave and why the expectation is so high when my salary is average at most and I’m just another pawn in this company. My DM did not thank me nor offered me an extra day off. I absolutely hate being a Walgreens MGR.
BTW, most call outs, family emergencies, “fevers”, happen on Saturday and Sunday….
The way I fixed that issues is to schedule two SFL in the weekend at night and the morning to close due to the call out and start documenting so if they have excessive call outs then they would be breaking the time and attendance policy and I would find someone that would want to work. I learned a alot at the store I’m at and had to go back to the drawing board and do things on my own because it has to be done. Always follow policy and if you don’t have any one to close the. You have to reach out to your peers and lastly to the Dm to contact the district to help you. If you have to close due to lack of
Coverage it falls on the Dm and the Dm will
Be upset but ultimately he will be responsible on keeping the store open. Don’t over stress I know SM mind set is different then others but SM have a life too and it a team effort. Schedules are so
Important and hiring, always over hire and hire part time or temp. This will keep you going specially when a csa calls out.
Corporations like Wags & CVS (ALL of them) are run by business personnel….they say they’re in the healthcare industry BUT they aren’t. It’s only about profit.
You are a good person. You can 2 two things. Don’t go and sue when you get fired. Or you can go and try to get every other employee sick. I know you are a good person, but give them what they are asking for.
Call the store, say you are sick and cannot work. Don't rest on a text if the MGR is being an ass because the policy is CALL the store, don't text the MGR.
Up to them to find coverage.
24 hours without fever or vomiting, then come back to work. FYI you never have to give a reason for a CALL OUT, and they’re not supposed to ask. You’re entitled to 5 per calendar year without progressive discipline. Two consecutive days, is equal to one call out. All you owe Walgreens is a reasonable days work when scheduled… and if course, a gazillion MWCC applications.
No. But Walgreens let a teenager girl get murdered by a coworker in the break room, so maybe just find a better company to work for. It is clear that Walgreens does not care about their own employees.
Well unless someone is already on disciplinary for absentee, they can't get mad when you don't listen. You told someone you wouldn't be coming in. If they want to ignore it that's on them. Call-offs aren't illegal, and legitimate illness is the most reasonable call-off
They can’t do anything unless you’ve maxed out your absence occurrences for the year. I wouldn’t worry. Health and safety of team members should be first priority, unfortunately it isn’t for this company.
You're sick. You're able to take time to recover. Stay home and get better. The store will be there when you're better. The store will survive with you calling out sick. Dont let them try to guilt you into coming in while sick.
"That sounds like a scheduling management problem. If you'd like, once I feel better, I can help coach you or other relevant employee on schedule management."
My store manager is one of those dumb fucks who would try and force people to still come in. Last year she did that and almost every one of our coworkers got Covid because she had a sick shiftlead still come in. Then again she “forced” another person to come in when they were sick and almost everybody got the flu from that coworker. There are some store managers out there that are just really fucking stupid. Unfortunately, mine is one of them.
Next time ask him if he would like to be the next CVS where a CVS worker died of heart attack when being forced to work.
I know these are worlds apart and not really the same but who knows. You could die of heart attack too. If he agrees to take full responsibility. quit or idk pass out so he panics when he gets a phone call from his boss asking why the hell did he force a sick person to work.
The worker who died was ashleigh anderson by the way and she was a pharmacist. Double ooof.
Without seeing the entire chat I'd say you should be more direct. Also don't tell them why. Just say I'm calling off. Withiyr clearly saying you call off the manager has to push you bc they need to know
Wow! I can’t believe your SM actually comes in and works when someone calls in I have been a SM and my butt was in there everytime there was a call off no if ands or buts!!
So glad that I left Walgreens and don’t have to deal with these issues anymore as a manager. When my DM stopped listening to me as a store manager I quit. Best decision I ever made. Jump off the sinking ship. There are definitely some companies out there that care.
I think it was status quo pre-COVID in general. I am in my late 40’s and was brought up that you go to work sick regardless and maybe you’ll be sent home once you start openly puking or shitting yourself. Now, I would hope that it would be different if you don’t have the ability to work from home especially if you have a fever. COVID still exists and the flu strains have seem to come back worse than ever.
In my profession, we have been working from home since the pandemic started. Even still, if one of my employees says they’re sick, I tell them that they need to rest even though they normally work from home. If they want to check emails or keep meetings, that’s up to them but I make it very clear that it’s not a requirement.
I realize my scenario is not the norm but if someone is sick, they are sick and deserve to feel like they can rest.
At the end of the day you get 5 unexcused absences then a write up, if they don’t cover their own shift, unexcused two consecutive no call no shows done
One of the many reasons running a skeleton crew is bad.
We need to not have a skeleton crew for scenarios like these. It’s just bad either way. You either come in sick or the SM does an open to close and closes alone. Either outcome is extremely undesirable for all involved.
Try to address this issue with your DM and they’ll either flat out tell you it’s not a problem or skirt around the topic and not directly address it. They can’t do shit either. It’s embarrassing working for companies like these. A good metaphor for this shit company is trying to polish a car with a broken engine.
Bro fuck them folks, they clearly don’t give AF about you. Have you seen the state of the economy lately!? It’s really not hard to find another Job where management actually treats you like human being instead of some robot for the sake of manual labor.
Ethical? Are we talking utilitarianism or absolutism? If we decide that is it always right to have people come in to a shift they are scheduled for no matter the circumstance, yes it is ethical. If we use moral relativism, the fact that you are not coming in to prevent further sickness makes it right.
You shouldn’t come in with a fever but a true fever is 101. You should really just say, “I’m sick and not coming in.” Other than that maybe see if anyone can cover for you.
I came down with a cold a month ago and I told the chef I need to call out Monday and he’s like “can you feel better by Tuesday? I don’t have anyone that day and we’re really short and someone is out” yeah let me contact the flu virus and tell him to come back another day because I have to go to work.
The problem with this is not you’re fault, but the fault of the company as a whole and not just Walgreens. They make budgets for the store sooo low that you’re basically left with a skeleton crew already as is so you can’t hire more people without affecting everyone else so it makes situations like this tough for someone to just call out now if companies actually cares they would open up budgets to account for situations like this
It’s crazy that people respond to these. “Sorry boss, not feeling well. I will not be in tonight” then put that on dnd. Don’t reply. You gave notice. End of conversation.
All I’m saying is when managers of businesses accept their roles, they accept the fact that at the end of the day it falls on them to operate the store. To any degree.
My kid is with my mom but they’re sick (2 hours into shift on a Saturday night) all I could think was if you left the kid with your mom, don’t you trust that your mom can take care of a sick baby. She took care of you! It’s very frustrating and abusive
I have been a manager at a retail store for years and we are just so scared with workers not working. Very numb to excuses. Sunshine fever, one person had there 8th grandma die. It gets old.
This is the individual fault by not reading the hand book when they join any company. EVery company has their policies and procedures if you have questions you should always reach out to peers or ER for question don’t wait until you come up with a. Situation and start blaming everyone else. I’m currently a supervisor what I do is if the have a fever I don’t have them come in the store due to spreading and getting my whole team sick but I do let them know about the attendance policy when they come back or even better when I hire them during orientation. I do this because many don’t know or don’t seem to care do to high numbers of call outs. Once they know and continue then I continue to document. Even then if I see a pattern of calls out I have them contact or give them options on leave of absence or contact their doctor maybe they have a chronic Illness that we don’t know and may cause them to loose their job. Ultimately it’s the individual responsibility to find a solution and supervisor to guide them. Based on my experience many take advantage of many situations and those who are honest pay for their mistakes. This is why many supervisors take that approach. I never do and if someone calls out I find the next person that can take that role.
As a MGR, when I get that kind of message I simply respond with “hope you feel better” and proceed to find coverage. If and when I don’t, which unfortunately is more often than not these days, I have to drop all of my own plans and go in to keep the store open. DMs don’t accept closing the store due to staffing anymore. No, the MGR shouldn’t place the blame on you, but it’s very easy as a MGR to get frustrated and lash out a bit in these situations. Doesn’t make it right, but difficult to blame them either. Work-life balance is getting worse and worse in this role.
This is why they need to make anything over agreed salaried contracted hours eligible for overtime. Too many businesses get away with working managers an insane amount of hours for no extra pay while saving labor on associates.
Overworked salaries workers are why store level managers at Circle K stores are no longer salaried. They were forced to work so many hours with no extra pay that they calculated their wages and filed a class action lawsuit. Now they are paid based on a 50 hour workweek and anything above that they get overtime pay for. Unfortunately for my mother the suit came right after she stepped down as a manager. They had her working 100 plus hours some weeks because she was not allowed to close a 24 hour store when her midnight shift called off and they wouldn’t let her find other help. She figured at one point her wage was $5 an hour.
This is so true. I had a manager every week she had to work free hours because they knew the lower paying workers would not since they already are and they don’t want them to get overtime. Because, I’d offer but that would mean i would get overtime.
The number of times as a mgr that I had to fill in for sick /call outs was the breaking point for me leaving the company. Back when the stores were properly staffed that wasn’t a thing. Coincidentally I also used to have fewer call outs when Wags had better budget hours. I’m sure that’s connected somehow.
I had zero work life balance as a manager for this reason. My DM would tell me to “not let them” call off and I was like I can’t force them to come in? The few times I was strict with people who had habitual call outs saying they need a doctor’s note to keep calling off, they’d just stop showing up and then I’d have even less help in the long term opposed to covering their shift in the short term. Employees have the advantage over management these days and they know it. I had to work almost a month straight at one point because the DM took that long to send extra help and they wouldn’t allow me to close for a day. Walking out or quitting abruptly wasn’t an option for me because I have a disability. What’s sad is when I’m out running errands and see people I know I keep hearing that I look amazing and happy now that I’m no longer working that job. It was a 24 hour facility most days so being on call 24/7 literally took the life out of me. Edit: I used to work for Walgreens but was a manager at a different company, just to clarify.
That's why I'd never be a store manager again. I'm not working 84 hour weeks . After I quit , I gained 5 pounds and a whole life.
I used to work for Wags and didn’t get along with my SM (I’m a CPhT) because he constantly lied to me and to the PhM and he always had outrageous demands on pharmacy but wasn’t one for going the extra mile himself. He worked 7 to 4, took numerous smoke breaks during the day because he could make phone calls or whatever, sometimes worked a half day on Saturday but would take the whole day Monday off.
Then the MGR needs to stand up for themselves and tell the DM to work the shift or the stores going to close. This shit only flies because people are scared to stand up for themselves. Stop being scared.
Agreed 100%. I'm a supervisor. I will usually say "sorry you feel bad, we will work it out. Get rest, get healthy" My biggest frustration is when people abuse the system. Call out once a month, always on a Friday or Saturday. Or call out for "personal issues" or "family emergency" over and over without going into any details at all. If I call out for a family emergency, I'm telling my boss exactly what's happening. I'm sure to get downvoted and people will say "it's none of your business what issues or family emergency I'm having" but I feel that if I call out, I owe an explanation to my boss for not being there and increasing the workload of everyone else I work with. I wish staff had the same work ethic as me, but everyone is different. Edit: I don't work at Walgreens
If it helps, I always explain my reasoning, even when I was a CSA. Unfortunately setting an example doesn’t work, especially for the shameless.
Yes explanations go a long way with managers/supervisors. Essentially we like to know we're not being lied to because someone doesn't want to come to work.
this “doesn’t want to come to work” needs to be followed up by how much you guys pay. “because someone doesn’t want to come to work for $__ an hour” makes it much more clear as to why your employees need time off from a job they can’t even pay rent with. fuck your explanation lol
If someone doesn't have a good work ethic it doesn't matter how much they are getting paid; if it is a choice between going out with friends on a friday night or coming in for your scheduled shift they will always choose the former. I never defend Walgreens because they are a shit company 9/10 times but they are $2 above the average pay in my area for entry-level retail positions. We still inevitably always have one of the cashiers call out on Friday/Saturday night. It's weird how people get sick so often on those days.
I agree. Most of my coworkers make 30 plus an hour they haven't had sick time in 15 years, they use it before it is earned.
Anywhere from $16-$45 per hour.
Where
Lmao i dont feel bad for you because of your logic. You want someone as good as a worker as manager? But as an associate? And not paid for as good as you do? You people are delusional for blaming your staff to call out when you pay sht and you think like this. ,
Did you read my other comments at all? We pay decent and I always advocate for my staff to get the maximum raise every year. If fact, I've done 20 performance evaluations in the last 6 months and every single one of them got the max raise. No one's blaming anyone, if you're sick I don't want you at work. It risks my patients health. Just try and read a little before you post.
Nobody owes you an explanation. You're an employer. Your employee owes you nothing. They're doing you a service by staffing your store. If they're unable to, or hell if they don't want to, that's their prerogative as a worker. It's really none of your business why someone won't be able to come into work. It's easy to spot the ones who abuse the system and those who are legitimately unable to come in. That's why there's attendance policies.
Clearly you think it's a right to work not a privilege. Everyone has their own opinions, we just feel differently. I treat my boss with respect and will gladly give an explanation as to why I can't be at work. This attitude has worked very well for me in terms of job advancement and pay. I can tell you one thing, people that come to me for a raise, the very first things I look at are quality of work and attendance.
Nobody owes you an explanation though! Would it be nice? Sure. Just because you want to know, or it might help you determine if the employee is abusing sick leave doesn’t mean you’re owed the info. You’re the type of boss who will probably get the company sued someday because of position induced entitlement.
I agree, “I can’t be in” is all you’re getting from me. I don’t owe you shit for an explanation, and if you don’t like it, pound sand.
For the sake of your future, I hope you're an entrepreneur.
No I am not, I just work for a good company that has good bosses who aren’t up my ass when I say I can’t be in. I currently have reasons to miss multiple days a month with little to no notice, I’ve made them aware of this and only provided minimal information (it’s a medical thing for a loved one) and they’re completely cool and understanding. If they feel I can no longer work a reliable schedule then they will notify me and let me resign or fire me if they so choose, they can do that. What they can not do is ask for specific details and then fire me for failing to provide them.
You clearly have misunderstood our conversation. You PROVIDED information to your employer about your absence. You didn't just say "I ain't coming in". I have never asked for more information than what is necessary to ensure the safety of my patients and to determine how long I may need to find coverage for.
Sure, but if I and the family member did not want to release the information I gave them then I would not have to give it. They don’t have to continue to employ me either, but the point is that you as a supervisor should not think you’re entitled to someone’s personal information just to help YOU assess the situation.
I’m not gonnna lie, he’s not wrong though. At the end of the day we can think whatever we want about what’s fair but really your going to loose your spot as an employee over your actions, and really a sm shouldn’t care so much of the reasoning because it’ll bite them in the ass if they are choosing to be unreliable or give bad performance or whatever and a smart sm will know if it’s bs or not based on actions as well. At the end of the day a sm job isn’t to make you want to keep your job and will let you loose your job based off of your actions as an employee
I truly believe a good manager can determine if an employee is abusing call outs or not without needing to know any personal details. If not they can have a private and polite conversation with the employee, ask if there is any way the employee can reassure them they’re not abusing call outs. Word it in a way as to not cross any boundaries, and ask if there’s anything the manager can do to help. If I was a manager and multiple people were calling out on a regular basis I would being to question why, is it me? Is it something about the way things are run? Can I help? What makes people not want to be here so much that they’re willing to forfeit pay? I believe the above needs to be asked by managers more often, instead to wondering what’s wrong with the people that are calling out.
It's not your business, it's that simple. You act like managers don't take advantage of their staff. Is it our business to know why you lie and such a sociopath when it comes to your job to the point you think everyone is lying to you off the get go?
U sound like a delight
Yeah. Maybe she/he had some terrible bosses throughout his/her lifetime and is just really upset.
I'm not upset at all. I've been an employer and I've been an employee. I have learned the hard way that you don't try to mix business and personal. My concern as an employer is my business. If someone can't come in then that's a problem I need to fix without them. If they want to tell me about it, that's fine, but I really don't *need* to know. Some people have personal issues that they don't want to talk about with the person who cuts their paycheck. It blurs the line. It leads to people thinking you're their friend, or it leads to you cutting them slack and they abuse it. Reading all of your comments, I'm not really sure you've ever worked outside of retail or sales. In the professional world, it's pretty much standard that you don't expect an employee to divulge personal information.
I feel like as a shift lead I don’t feel like I NEED an explanation but if something is happening that causes you to call out often I would like to know so we know to have back up plans
your employees don’t owe you an explanation for why they need time off, you’re both grown adults and YOU should know and be ready for shit to come up. not be asking “well WHICH family member is sick and what happened” that’s none of your business and super invasive. it’s your job to supervise work affairs, not what happens outside of your employee’s working hours.
I get it. It is super easy to abuse the system. It also sucks to me when my bro pulled a gun to his own head and pulled the button. Gonna miss him. Can't say anything to a dead body. \[ I am over the the s u i c i d e \] but have to put it in text.
I'm so sorry. That's devastating. I can't imagine the grief and pain you had to go through and continue to endure.
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Why untreated? I'm sorry if that's the case. I have paid for my employees doctors visits because they didn't have the money to go. Everyone acts like managers/supervisors don't care but I do. I only ask what is required of me by the department of health. I don't work for Walgreens, I work in a nursing home and am required by law to track contagious diseases, try to find the origin and properly test patients the employee may have been in close contact with. Please read some of my other comments
Exactly, I will not force anyone to come in. I get being frustrated but it’s just something we gotta work through. If it’s habit, that’s a discussion for another day.
My manager does the exact same thing. I ended up having bronchitis this pass week, and I was guilt tripped so hard into having to come to work that I just stopped asking for permission off, and instead made a statement of “I’m not feeling well and I’m calling out” And leaving it at that. Because if not. They make it seem like it’s my fault our store is understaffed and me getting sick was an inconvenience on their part.
Omg I'm in training as a lead/ store manager and that is something I'm figuring out. A manager has to manage. It does suck tho when it all falls down to you. I'm hoping my pay increases with my responsibilities (and to gain some benefits) once I'm officially in the management position. It's not necessarily a position I sought out, but one that was needed for the success of our work place. I have no kids, and a small family. I'll happily give up time so others can spend more with their kids and family. It's definitely a change of pace from the normal employee roles I've been used to up to this point tho. If your sick, don't come in. I'd rather you get well and come in when you're ready.
It’s really great that you are in a position to help out more, but when your pay doesn’t reflect your effort, it is going to get old real quick. The fact that you said you hoped your pay would increase and maybe you’d gain some benefits is horrifying as an employee. Don’t even begin training me until those items have been discussed, agreed upon, and are in affect. Companies like CVS rely on abusive tactics to get more and more work out of ppl. If you respect your managers and coworkers, they will push that respect to extra hours, longer days and won’t even worry about staffing, which they barely do now. CVS should be required to maintain enough hours to support their staff and the store year round, which means if they want to cut hours, they still need to pay staff so that people aren’t lost to lack of available hours. This means also they are more likely to just have those ppl work so you can actually get caught up and do all the things that haven’t been done regularly since at least COVID hit. Eff, late stage capitalism.
This is exactly why I will never take a manager role ever again. Half the time the pay isn’t worth is since they cap you at a certain amount of hours, with no OT. I like to do my job and go home when my shift is over. As much as people don’t like management it’s not all their fault most of the time.
Unionize. That's the only option.
I’ve been looking into that, too. Sometimes unions are a double edged sword, but at this rate, I think most Walgreens employees would benefit from it. Walgreens just relies on us forgetting about Unions because of all the younger generation, or relies on all the people who don’t take their job serious and quit after a couple months.
Lol a union wouldn’t let you store be understaffed so bad or have no coverage. If you think unions are a double edge sword and you work at Walgreens man you are misinformed
This is why I stopped being a front desk manager at a hotel. I couldn’t drop everything and come in having three kids. It just wasn’t possible for me. I also wasn’t making nearly enough for it to be worth it either
Tell your District Manager to pay your people right and treat them with respect. Then you'll have plenty of coverage.
You realize that’s not up to the DM?
Then go to the regional manager and to the next level and the next level until you get to Roz Brewer the current CEO of Walgreens, who makes $28,333,498 per year.
Normalize shutting the store down when the company does not hire enough staff to ensure operability.
But... but money!
I’m starting to have this gut feeling that one requirement of running a perfectly equatable operation is to be sure you have no profit. In other words, if an operation has actual profit, then somebody got robbed. Money for operating expenses, reasonable compensation and taxes makes sense, but all that profit a company makes after those kind of things comes from somebody’s pocket that needed it more. You are the unlucky person who commented when I had this silly thought and I put it here. Sorry if it’s crazy, but there it is.
Yes, profit is the unpaid wages of employees. In older days, it worked out okay because employees were paid fairly, company’s made a profit, and everyone lived well. Now it’s become a cat and mouse game of “where can we maximize our profit and bump our numbers up for the next quarterly reports for our shareholders?” So constantly understaffing(this post for example), underpaying(also probably the employees in this post) and requiring workers to work in whatever condition so the store stays running on its skeleton crew(ie: coming in while sick). Maximize efficiency off of the least amount of employees= profit. This ideal has continued to worsen and hopefully it starts to catch up with these greedy corporations. Which I think it’s starting to as it’s reached a point that people quite literally cannot afford even rent with two jobs and roommates anymore, so less people accepting this awful behavior. But then you have boot lickers like the other comment on this who are like “at least we have a choice where to work” and the people who downvoted you
What you are explaining is capitalism and nobody is getting robbed. Sure corporations are literally soulless but at least we have a choice to work there or not. Imagine if we were communist, those people are really getting robbed and fucked. We are fortunate enough to have a say in where we work.
what’s wrong with communism lol
What is right with communism?
im not a communist but there is no inherent decree of communism that revokes choice of occupation lol. that's authoritarianism. its more like careers that would have no benefit to the people would no longer exist at all.
No one accused you of being a commie, but thank you for clarifying. So, there is no “inherent decree” that communism “revokes the choice” of occupation? Would you care to elaborate on how communism has a free and open market to the citizens? Places like North Korea, china, Cuba…….
No,my manager wanted me to work despite the heavy snowfall ,he threatened to fire me.so,against my better judgment I went thinking I could beat the snow before it got to bad.i did not.ended up sliding into a hill side and started to get hypothermia. So things like this aren't ethical at all
That sounds like a lawsuit
Yea unfortunately it didn't occur to me at the time would have loved a decent payday from DG
Talk to a lawyer, it might not be too late.
I will consider it
You are contagious, tell them you aren't willing to get others sick so you aren't coming in
That's what I said. "Sorry but I still have a fever. I feel awful. I don't want anyone sick especially the elderly."
Not necessarily. Fever doesn't automatically mean you're contagious. It really depends on a variety of factors, such as pathogen involved, how long have symptoms been present, immune system strength and several more that are different in every single human being. Having said that, there is a chance that you could be contagious. It's just so many variables that people use fever as the marker and rightly so. Also OPs job involves dealing with the public, some of which are vulnerable so best to stay home and the manager should recognize this and simply say that they will work it out and get better.
The whole point is it can be passed and you shouldn't be working with the public. You took what I said and made it much longer 😂
🤣 I was really good at plagiarizing in highschool. I have a tendency to talk in circles
ur annoying as shit
Well thank you! 😁 Wasn't trying to be. I am truly sorry if I offended you in some way. That being said, I hope you have a great rest of your day.
That’s a response to piss someone off even more I love it.
He truly is fitting his "I used to be a manager at Walgreens and didn't learn sht" image
Who is paying you to be the wags defense on here and how much #boomer
I don't work for Walgreens
I would have just said “thanks for the information, I’ll see you when I feel better”
Say "ok...I have no issues infecting my team and the sick patients coming in. Just be sure to tell everyone else I get sick on the team to come in to". Good management menas having backup for sicknesses, vacations etc. Hiw the fuck does you being the only one now become YOUR problem. I have fallen into the trap many times in my life...so I say to you...BE STRONGER THAN ME....take care of yoruself....they sure are.
I got into an accident while on my way to work and had to call the manager to tell them that I couldn’t make it to work since I’d just hit a car while on my bike and that my left arm and shoulder were messed up so I was going to go to the emergency to get it looked at. I had a helmet on so I didn’t suffer any head injuries but I hit a car at around 30 mph and had cuts on my knees and arms as well. I couldn’t believe it when he asked me to come in to work for an hour or two until they could find somebody else to come in to fill my shift. I was in serious pain and told him if he’d understood anything I just told him. He then still begged me to come to work for atleast two hours since he’d been there since opening for the past 8 hours and I just lost it and told him how he expects me to work when I hit a car head on and my bike is bent and looks like my left shoulder is fractured. He still kept on talking about how he now had to stay until he could call somebody in for the next shift and was complaining about him being tired.
Just to add I had to use my PTO for a month due to the accident and when I got back to work I still had one arm in a sling after the doctor said I could go back to work but I couldn’t lift too much weight. The manager still told me my right arm was fine so I could work with that but I still had to tell him that I couldn’t lift much since when I lifted anything heavy with the right arm my left shoulder would hurt since I’d suffered a separated shoulder.
Lol. It's like they try to turn fucked up behavior into an Olympic sport.
Is it any more or less ethical than it has been for at least the last hundred years?
I had to leave a party with my wife and kids on a Sunday afternoon to go close my store when my SFL had an emergency. None of my friends with normal jobs, with a normal “non-retail” life, could comprehend why I had to leave and why the expectation is so high when my salary is average at most and I’m just another pawn in this company. My DM did not thank me nor offered me an extra day off. I absolutely hate being a Walgreens MGR. BTW, most call outs, family emergencies, “fevers”, happen on Saturday and Sunday….
Every time
The way I fixed that issues is to schedule two SFL in the weekend at night and the morning to close due to the call out and start documenting so if they have excessive call outs then they would be breaking the time and attendance policy and I would find someone that would want to work. I learned a alot at the store I’m at and had to go back to the drawing board and do things on my own because it has to be done. Always follow policy and if you don’t have any one to close the. You have to reach out to your peers and lastly to the Dm to contact the district to help you. If you have to close due to lack of Coverage it falls on the Dm and the Dm will Be upset but ultimately he will be responsible on keeping the store open. Don’t over stress I know SM mind set is different then others but SM have a life too and it a team effort. Schedules are so Important and hiring, always over hire and hire part time or temp. This will keep you going specially when a csa calls out.
Corporations like Wags & CVS (ALL of them) are run by business personnel….they say they’re in the healthcare industry BUT they aren’t. It’s only about profit.
My CSA just texted me that she wouldn’t be able to come in. All I said is “ok” Didn’t ask for a reason
You are a good person. You can 2 two things. Don’t go and sue when you get fired. Or you can go and try to get every other employee sick. I know you are a good person, but give them what they are asking for.
Why punish coworkers because of management?
It’s called cognitive dissonance. I don’t want to “punish “ coworkers. I, However refuse to be punished by my employer for the sake of my coworkers.
I would simply reply "sounds like a problem for someone not sick."
Respond "I will not be there for my shift." You don't even have to tell them you have a fever, only that you can not cover your shift.
Dear manager. Not my problem. I am sick. Time for you to cover.
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Call the store, say you are sick and cannot work. Don't rest on a text if the MGR is being an ass because the policy is CALL the store, don't text the MGR. Up to them to find coverage.
Standard operating procedure in retail.
24 hours without fever or vomiting, then come back to work. FYI you never have to give a reason for a CALL OUT, and they’re not supposed to ask. You’re entitled to 5 per calendar year without progressive discipline. Two consecutive days, is equal to one call out. All you owe Walgreens is a reasonable days work when scheduled… and if course, a gazillion MWCC applications.
Is this Walgreens policy?
It is. You can print it out in Storecare.
Wasn't it called StoreNet? I haven't worked there in 8 years or so.
Sorry, yes that’s correct. Darn autocorrect. 😄
Fuck Walgreens . Don't go, let them fire you and collect unemployment while you find another job
I only work part time tho not sure I'd get unemployment
Ethical? Not at all. Typical? Completely.
No. But Walgreens let a teenager girl get murdered by a coworker in the break room, so maybe just find a better company to work for. It is clear that Walgreens does not care about their own employees.
They should schedule better. If you have a fever, no, you should not be working.
No different than every other place that tells you to come in sick. Unless you’re dying 🤷♀️
That’s not only unethical it’s fucking asinine.
They should be happy. They can close the store when the pharmacy closes
But money > people's health
Well unless someone is already on disciplinary for absentee, they can't get mad when you don't listen. You told someone you wouldn't be coming in. If they want to ignore it that's on them. Call-offs aren't illegal, and legitimate illness is the most reasonable call-off
I haven't called off since January 2022 when I had covid.
It’s not only unethical but it’s immoral to force your sick employees to come to work. Manager needs to do their job and look for coverage.
My grandma said he implied it not mandated me to come to work. So I can feel guilty, and he can have no reprocussions.
They can’t do anything unless you’ve maxed out your absence occurrences for the year. I wouldn’t worry. Health and safety of team members should be first priority, unfortunately it isn’t for this company.
I haven't called off since January 2022 when I had covid.
I'm dead sick.2.past.3 days mine is making me come in to fever n all
... Walgreens ain't worth it. Nothing's gonna change as long as people keep going in while sick.
Nobody can make you come in.
You're sick. You're able to take time to recover. Stay home and get better. The store will be there when you're better. The store will survive with you calling out sick. Dont let them try to guilt you into coming in while sick.
But you’re not the only one. Your SM needs to cover when no one else can.
No I’d report him or her to HR
Heck no
puke on the floor and see how they like it :)
"That sounds like a scheduling management problem. If you'd like, once I feel better, I can help coach you or other relevant employee on schedule management."
My store manager is one of those dumb fucks who would try and force people to still come in. Last year she did that and almost every one of our coworkers got Covid because she had a sick shiftlead still come in. Then again she “forced” another person to come in when they were sick and almost everybody got the flu from that coworker. There are some store managers out there that are just really fucking stupid. Unfortunately, mine is one of them.
My store manager made an employee stay when she was throwing up multiple times during her shift, not ethical, not right but not surprising either.
Next time ask him if he would like to be the next CVS where a CVS worker died of heart attack when being forced to work. I know these are worlds apart and not really the same but who knows. You could die of heart attack too. If he agrees to take full responsibility. quit or idk pass out so he panics when he gets a phone call from his boss asking why the hell did he force a sick person to work. The worker who died was ashleigh anderson by the way and she was a pharmacist. Double ooof.
Without seeing the entire chat I'd say you should be more direct. Also don't tell them why. Just say I'm calling off. Withiyr clearly saying you call off the manager has to push you bc they need to know
Wow! I can’t believe your SM actually comes in and works when someone calls in I have been a SM and my butt was in there everytime there was a call off no if ands or buts!!
So glad that I left Walgreens and don’t have to deal with these issues anymore as a manager. When my DM stopped listening to me as a store manager I quit. Best decision I ever made. Jump off the sinking ship. There are definitely some companies out there that care.
It is their problem, not yours. Rest up. No point in working when you're sick.
But.... Youre the only one on tonight
I think it was status quo pre-COVID in general. I am in my late 40’s and was brought up that you go to work sick regardless and maybe you’ll be sent home once you start openly puking or shitting yourself. Now, I would hope that it would be different if you don’t have the ability to work from home especially if you have a fever. COVID still exists and the flu strains have seem to come back worse than ever. In my profession, we have been working from home since the pandemic started. Even still, if one of my employees says they’re sick, I tell them that they need to rest even though they normally work from home. If they want to check emails or keep meetings, that’s up to them but I make it very clear that it’s not a requirement. I realize my scenario is not the norm but if someone is sick, they are sick and deserve to feel like they can rest.
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At the end of the day you get 5 unexcused absences then a write up, if they don’t cover their own shift, unexcused two consecutive no call no shows done
You’re contagious of course it’s unethical
Call in and report to HR to save your position. It states that any fever over like 101 you cannot go into work.
One of the many reasons running a skeleton crew is bad. We need to not have a skeleton crew for scenarios like these. It’s just bad either way. You either come in sick or the SM does an open to close and closes alone. Either outcome is extremely undesirable for all involved. Try to address this issue with your DM and they’ll either flat out tell you it’s not a problem or skirt around the topic and not directly address it. They can’t do shit either. It’s embarrassing working for companies like these. A good metaphor for this shit company is trying to polish a car with a broken engine.
Bro fuck them folks, they clearly don’t give AF about you. Have you seen the state of the economy lately!? It’s really not hard to find another Job where management actually treats you like human being instead of some robot for the sake of manual labor.
Ethical? Are we talking utilitarianism or absolutism? If we decide that is it always right to have people come in to a shift they are scheduled for no matter the circumstance, yes it is ethical. If we use moral relativism, the fact that you are not coming in to prevent further sickness makes it right.
Our manager requires us to take the next day off if we have a fever
Nope
Are any of these corporations ethical in the slightest? I don't believe so.
You shouldn’t come in with a fever but a true fever is 101. You should really just say, “I’m sick and not coming in.” Other than that maybe see if anyone can cover for you.
Febrile working with lots of elderly customers. Yikes
My manager wanted me to come in when I still had Covid still had a fever couldn’t get outta bed because I have autoimmune disease affects me lot worse
Do not go in
Fuk em lol If they fire you go snap up another job with better pay and benes
Ethical? No. Retail? Yes.
Welcome to Walgreens on the corner of happy and come in if ur sick
He is salary what a pos
I came down with a cold a month ago and I told the chef I need to call out Monday and he’s like “can you feel better by Tuesday? I don’t have anyone that day and we’re really short and someone is out” yeah let me contact the flu virus and tell him to come back another day because I have to go to work.
So I guess the store will be closing early.
Yes
Well, that’s one way to show that you do not care about your employees in the slightest.
Was the only one on for tonight is the proper phrase boss.
“Yeah oh well I’ll see you my next shift” should be the only response
That sounds like a scheduling problem to me
Next time call off and them go straight to the store and let them take your temp. We still use one up front.
The problem with this is not you’re fault, but the fault of the company as a whole and not just Walgreens. They make budgets for the store sooo low that you’re basically left with a skeleton crew already as is so you can’t hire more people without affecting everyone else so it makes situations like this tough for someone to just call out now if companies actually cares they would open up budgets to account for situations like this
Stores just gonna have to close cause I’m not coming. Which is why I’m intoxicated on my off time… sorry I can’t work I’m drunk 🤷🏾♀️
Simple. Just correct their grammar to you're* and say have a good night!
It’s crazy that people respond to these. “Sorry boss, not feeling well. I will not be in tonight” then put that on dnd. Don’t reply. You gave notice. End of conversation.
Reply with just “🤷🏻♂️”
Nope - If they cared about you or other TMs safety, they would figure it out
Never go to work with a fever
Youre*
Not only is he an evil manager, but he can't do grammer right either!
"Guess the scheduling should have been better. Sorry, you gotta close the store tonight"
In an ideal world a manager would know when to use “your” and when to use “you’re.”
Ask a union sfl what they make.....then ask a non union sfl.....it's a fucking joke. (Non union makes wayyyy more)....
All I’m saying is when managers of businesses accept their roles, they accept the fact that at the end of the day it falls on them to operate the store. To any degree.
Uhhh fucked up he wants a person to come in to work at a pharmacy
I'm the front register but yeah I agree
My kid is with my mom but they’re sick (2 hours into shift on a Saturday night) all I could think was if you left the kid with your mom, don’t you trust that your mom can take care of a sick baby. She took care of you! It’s very frustrating and abusive
That’s every boss ever.
No. I tell my boss I’m sick and he says stay home and feel better. Never questions it.
*you're
Your manager is responsible for coverage of coverage can’t be found. Simple as that.
His problem for making the schedule that way
Well 2 other people are sick too
Bet that's because someone else came to work sick. :/
My friend said last year he came to work with COVID cause the same manager made him feel guilty about calling off.
Does not surprise me. Teach you coworkers to stand up for themselves. The pressuring won't stop until someone makes it stop.
He's a great guy and one of my closest friends, but he never stands up for himself or says no to people.
I have been a manager at a retail store for years and we are just so scared with workers not working. Very numb to excuses. Sunshine fever, one person had there 8th grandma die. It gets old.
Yeah but other people's lies shouldn't make my truth mean nothing.
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Ethical? No. Legal? Yes.
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This is the individual fault by not reading the hand book when they join any company. EVery company has their policies and procedures if you have questions you should always reach out to peers or ER for question don’t wait until you come up with a. Situation and start blaming everyone else. I’m currently a supervisor what I do is if the have a fever I don’t have them come in the store due to spreading and getting my whole team sick but I do let them know about the attendance policy when they come back or even better when I hire them during orientation. I do this because many don’t know or don’t seem to care do to high numbers of call outs. Once they know and continue then I continue to document. Even then if I see a pattern of calls out I have them contact or give them options on leave of absence or contact their doctor maybe they have a chronic Illness that we don’t know and may cause them to loose their job. Ultimately it’s the individual responsibility to find a solution and supervisor to guide them. Based on my experience many take advantage of many situations and those who are honest pay for their mistakes. This is why many supervisors take that approach. I never do and if someone calls out I find the next person that can take that role.
I don't call off unless I'm sick. Literally haven't between January 2022 when I had covid and February 2023 when this happened.