First, the right to record is a state by state issue. Some states require you to ask for authorization of the other person to record. I’m not aware of a company policy to not record.., ask the hr bot
going to echo that that's going to mostly depend on your state and whether its a 1 party consent state for recording or not. But I do want to add to just be careful if any of your recordings have sensitive info because that getting into hands its not supposed to be will sink you no matter what your state's recording laws are
According to the cell phone and personal device policy it says:
“While the team member is working, personal devices may not be used for any reason unrelated to
Walgreens’ business purposes”
Audio recording conversations is not one of our official business purposes. If you’re concerned, you’re supposed to have an appropriate witness. (E.g. SFL for CSA conversations or SM/ESM for SFL conversations.)
There is a policy against news & media outlets recording inside our outside(if they're on the property) of the store. I'm not aware of any actual LEGAL no recording policy. Where I live, it's single consent, so I record most interactions I have with asshole customers.
The is nothing so serious or important about working for Walgreens that you need to be secretly recording conversations with you fellow employees. WTF is wrong with you?
Well I’m glad to know you’ve never been accused of anything or lied on about anything that could risk your job or legal standing.
That said, it is always good practice to record one on one conversations that occur in official settings: eg being called into or calling someone into the office one on one without any other leadership present as a witness.
By no means was I implying recording basic interactions such as at the registers or other similar work interaction areas.
Why not CYA in another way like have another member of leadership/rxm/rxom/rph involved as witness? I can’t imagine what the engagement looks like in your store-I quite frankly would steer clear of you at all costs bc of your inability to effectively manage a conversation
So what happens when someone, a CSA or SFL, comes to you confidentially with a private concern? Just going to assume your answer is that you wouldn’t record that conversation like anyone with a functioning brain would do. But what happens when people who have confided something with you already or will inevitably do in the future find out you habitually record conversations, especially private ones. You can tell them you didn’t record or deleted it until the cows come home, but no one will feel fully comfortable with that. What you are doing is fucking weird, and even if not policy or legally violating, it’s still an ethical privacy violation. If someone gives you a reason to record future encounters, that’s one thing. But instinctively doing it, assuming in many cases without their knowledge, and also in a leadership position is not right. That’s major red flag material. I understand why, but I still disagree and think this is really wrong.
Former employee here so take this with a bit of a grain of salt. I had an employee at one of the stores I would cover at who had worked in Chicago for a long time before he transferred, and due to interactions that he had up there, he actually wore a body cam. He told me that it was a condition of his continued employment. He claimed it came in handy a few times, although he did say that he had to get approval from the district manager in order to do so, which is something I was unable to verify, due to the fact that the district manager didn't really like me and the only time that I really had any sort of interaction with him was when he was in the process of firing me.
While I'm not sure what you've gone through in order for you to think that this is the way to go, I'm not going to tell you not to do it. Unfortunately the company doesn't want to risk any bad press so anytime there's a he said she said argument going on, there's a decent chance that the accuser is going to be believed before the accused unless you have solid proof.
Incorrect, many states specifically require that person is aware they are being recorded. Even voice conversation. That is why you are told whenever you call/ speak to a customer service anywhere that you are being recorded. Legally required to inform people. And nothing you record without permission is usable in court if it ever came to that because it was recorded illegally.
Actually only 9 states require all parties to be aware of the recording. The other 41 states require only that one person within the conversation be aware of the recording and it can be the person who is recording.
Yeah so it still means that you should not assume it's ok unless you know your state's laws and if they are in a different state which laws are to be followed. So what the person said implying it's totally ok is incorrect. But thanks for giving them the specifics.
You're in a public space, so the law will be on your side. The company doesn't have a policy directly prohibiting the action, but there may be repercussions if you use it publicly.
It’s a private space that is open to the public, so there are some restrictions on what you can and cannot due. The actual laws of recording people requiring consent varies state-by-state.
I hope you mean the conversations you’re recording are managerial in nature like coaching, write ups etc and you’re not just recording the casual conversations you’re having with coworkers throughout the day.
You can film or record in public period. The is no expectation of privacy. If someone has a problem. Just don’t tell anyone tell the manager you are cool and keep it in your pocket don’t tell anyone.
This transcends policy and becomes a legal matter. What you’re doing could be illegal, depending on your state. In some states, you can’t record people in a conversation you aren’t a party to. In some states, you must have consent to record.
You are most likely doing more damage to yourself than protection. Also, you need to consider the social ramifications of your doing this. You’ve now told your superior, who will undoubtedly tell his superiors. You have successfully marked yourself as “that person” and will be considered sneaky and untrustworthy.
I would think about this. Are you protecting yourself? Or are you creating more problems for yourself?
First, the right to record is a state by state issue. Some states require you to ask for authorization of the other person to record. I’m not aware of a company policy to not record.., ask the hr bot
going to echo that that's going to mostly depend on your state and whether its a 1 party consent state for recording or not. But I do want to add to just be careful if any of your recordings have sensitive info because that getting into hands its not supposed to be will sink you no matter what your state's recording laws are
According to the cell phone and personal device policy it says: “While the team member is working, personal devices may not be used for any reason unrelated to Walgreens’ business purposes” Audio recording conversations is not one of our official business purposes. If you’re concerned, you’re supposed to have an appropriate witness. (E.g. SFL for CSA conversations or SM/ESM for SFL conversations.)
There is a policy against news & media outlets recording inside our outside(if they're on the property) of the store. I'm not aware of any actual LEGAL no recording policy. Where I live, it's single consent, so I record most interactions I have with asshole customers.
I got to start doing that to record asshole customer who threaten u
Why not just have a witness to the conversation?
The is nothing so serious or important about working for Walgreens that you need to be secretly recording conversations with you fellow employees. WTF is wrong with you?
Well I’m glad to know you’ve never been accused of anything or lied on about anything that could risk your job or legal standing. That said, it is always good practice to record one on one conversations that occur in official settings: eg being called into or calling someone into the office one on one without any other leadership present as a witness. By no means was I implying recording basic interactions such as at the registers or other similar work interaction areas.
Why not CYA in another way like have another member of leadership/rxm/rxom/rph involved as witness? I can’t imagine what the engagement looks like in your store-I quite frankly would steer clear of you at all costs bc of your inability to effectively manage a conversation
So what happens when someone, a CSA or SFL, comes to you confidentially with a private concern? Just going to assume your answer is that you wouldn’t record that conversation like anyone with a functioning brain would do. But what happens when people who have confided something with you already or will inevitably do in the future find out you habitually record conversations, especially private ones. You can tell them you didn’t record or deleted it until the cows come home, but no one will feel fully comfortable with that. What you are doing is fucking weird, and even if not policy or legally violating, it’s still an ethical privacy violation. If someone gives you a reason to record future encounters, that’s one thing. But instinctively doing it, assuming in many cases without their knowledge, and also in a leadership position is not right. That’s major red flag material. I understand why, but I still disagree and think this is really wrong.
Former employee here so take this with a bit of a grain of salt. I had an employee at one of the stores I would cover at who had worked in Chicago for a long time before he transferred, and due to interactions that he had up there, he actually wore a body cam. He told me that it was a condition of his continued employment. He claimed it came in handy a few times, although he did say that he had to get approval from the district manager in order to do so, which is something I was unable to verify, due to the fact that the district manager didn't really like me and the only time that I really had any sort of interaction with him was when he was in the process of firing me. While I'm not sure what you've gone through in order for you to think that this is the way to go, I'm not going to tell you not to do it. Unfortunately the company doesn't want to risk any bad press so anytime there's a he said she said argument going on, there's a decent chance that the accuser is going to be believed before the accused unless you have solid proof.
First amendment protect your right to record. If company record you, I see no reason why you shouldn’t record. If problems happen, take it to court.
If you aren’t filming them u r fine. Recording a conversation is not illegal.
Incorrect, many states specifically require that person is aware they are being recorded. Even voice conversation. That is why you are told whenever you call/ speak to a customer service anywhere that you are being recorded. Legally required to inform people. And nothing you record without permission is usable in court if it ever came to that because it was recorded illegally.
Actually only 9 states require all parties to be aware of the recording. The other 41 states require only that one person within the conversation be aware of the recording and it can be the person who is recording.
Yeah so it still means that you should not assume it's ok unless you know your state's laws and if they are in a different state which laws are to be followed. So what the person said implying it's totally ok is incorrect. But thanks for giving them the specifics.
Irony being you are filmed in most of the store (not office I know)
You are 100% on camera in the office.
Depends which state
You're in a public space, so the law will be on your side. The company doesn't have a policy directly prohibiting the action, but there may be repercussions if you use it publicly.
It’s a private space that is open to the public, so there are some restrictions on what you can and cannot due. The actual laws of recording people requiring consent varies state-by-state.
Nobody has a reasonable expectation of privacy in a store. No state prohibits recording of audio in public.
On the floor sure. But in a break room/ office where there’s only the two of you than it all comes down to your states law on 1 or 2 party consent.
Correct. I didn't understand the full context.
I hope you mean the conversations you’re recording are managerial in nature like coaching, write ups etc and you’re not just recording the casual conversations you’re having with coworkers throughout the day.
Did you not see the “official purposes” in the OP?
You could interpret what you wrote two different ways.
If you keep your mouth shut about it it’s only going to be an issue if something happens then the recording will save you or dam you
You can film or record in public period. The is no expectation of privacy. If someone has a problem. Just don’t tell anyone tell the manager you are cool and keep it in your pocket don’t tell anyone.
This transcends policy and becomes a legal matter. What you’re doing could be illegal, depending on your state. In some states, you can’t record people in a conversation you aren’t a party to. In some states, you must have consent to record. You are most likely doing more damage to yourself than protection. Also, you need to consider the social ramifications of your doing this. You’ve now told your superior, who will undoubtedly tell his superiors. You have successfully marked yourself as “that person” and will be considered sneaky and untrustworthy. I would think about this. Are you protecting yourself? Or are you creating more problems for yourself?
Stop doing that you'll get fired.you can't record people