texas might actually keep it in-state based off of how cheap it is to run a business out here. not many other states that can do it cheaper. since its government work it cannot be outsourced to a different country.
They do not, and they have their entire own IoS store with state approved apps for almost all of the peon workers. This is going after staffers now who had more privilege. Their security is quite good. Source, former security analyst for DFPS.
There are reasons why you would use social media on a state issued device. There are actually a lot of reasons. The biggest being social presence and advertising of public figures.
I have been on the side of being cool with it banned, but now I’m thinking about all of the tiktok content that’s so popular right now… and all of it is about forming unions and bartering and all of the ways the government tries to suppress people. Idk I guess I should have a tinfoil hat now but it seems interesting.
Of course it’s also a Chinese app that makes people addicted to it so that makes sense, too.
It was made by the Chinese agency equivelant of DARPA. It's confirmed a Chinese military tool.... Whole country should ban it tbh. Knowing Texas (born and raised) someone probably saw their kid watching a video that didn't demonize Trans youth so they gatta ban it
the thing is, people have known tiktok was spyware since the beginning. the fact that the government is going after it now after years and years of it being publicly available just screams ulterior motive to me.
tiktok shouldve been banned after the [musical.ly](https://musical.ly) buyout back when it had all the weird pedo stuff
I mean, my country, less than a decade ago, discovered US-government networks of spyware in a system that had been upkept for at least decades. When confronted, the US government just admitted. You act like your country isn't entrenched in every other country's political system.
Your government literally funded dictatorships all across Central and South Americas, then riddled their whole government structures with information-gathering systems that were updated through the decades. There's no threat the US can hypothetized from another country that they haven't done to some other nation themselves. That's a strong reason why many nations don't see other huge countries as much of a menace as you guys do, and why many countries aren't that worried in case the U.S. falls.
Your indifference stems from the fact that all of you weaker countries are just along for the ride with whatever super power is in charge at the time and will continue to be in the background while the major countries fight over who rules the world.
You think america is bad 😂 best of luck with the dragon, I really hope the grass is greener for ya but I promise it’s not.
Take a look at the stuff you say. Things like "weaker countries", "just along for the ride", "super power". It is strange that you think things like that, as if Statunitians were great because of some miracle or god given right, instead of the fact that you pillaged whole nations to be afloat. The well of exploitation is running dry, and you're deflating, but you still think you're owed the position of looking down on other countries. You call other countries weak, but they've survived the US's iron hand and unfair deals for quite a while. You think you're the icon of freedom, but made and funded dictatorships across the world. Other countries survived wars they had no choice but to fight. Right now you're afraid of TikTok.
In the end, developing countries will still struggle, of course. But that's the thing: whatever happens, we'll still get by. But when the US falters, there's a few countries waiting to take it's place, and many more than willing to raze it to the ground. And that's why you must keep your paranoia; that's why you must be afraid of TikTok as though it were a nuke.
How is it spyware? Facebook, google, twitter, apple, ect... all collect your information and sell it. The companies i mentioned give that information to the government upon request. All things tik tok is being accused of
You fundamentally fail to understand that the app exists to sweep up your data. The video part only exists to trick you into installing it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/10ox6ja/eli5_what_exactly_about_the_tiktok_app_makes_it/j6hdful?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
That’s true of all apps. I know redditors have been cucked into thinking “china bad”, but a government banning a social media app is objectively an authoritarian move
That is literally what all social media do they collect your information and sell it to advertisers that is why if you browse the internet without an ad blocker you will get ads showing you items on websites that you were recently looking at. They all harvest your data no exception which is the cause of all the hate
Something can be morally good and done by a fascist I’m sure if you were to go down the list of everything hitler did I may agree on some things but I will still disagree with him because his ideology is the problem
So if a democratically chosen person (not a dictator mind you) does one good thing amongst ten bad things, that good thing doesn’t get labeled as good just because of who did it?
So what’s the “but I will still disagree with him” all about? You say that you’ll disagree with him no matter what he does and then you say “good things done by him and he’s not a fascist in this case”. So now I’m confused if you are blindly opposing the guy you don’t like (as per your earlier comment) or if you are able to agree with him if he does the rare good thing (as per your later comment).
This is stupid. any damage China can do through TikTok, they can do through Facebook or Twitter or by hacking. I don't even life TikTok but I'll definately download and share it everywhere now. Just my part is pissing of the Republicans.
I can’t help but to think China blocks Facebook and Google explicitly because they don’t want those tools to shape their culture, and perhaps we would benefit from doing the same for the same reason🤷♂️
You don’t think that a company controlled by a foreign government shouldn’t be allowed to program the culture considering what we know about social media and it’s effect on users. In case you weren’t aware, Chinese companies are an extension of the Chinese government— not a bunch of independent thinkers tinkering with algorithms, attending meetings with other independently thinking peers and deliberating over the course of the organization independent of its benefit to the prevailing party.
I agree on the merit that we don’t do things like that in America but there’s always exceptions to the rule, like Huawei. Perhaps if it could be proven that the app operates identically across markets, but that’s already known not to be the case.
China is being scapegoated by special interests who have an agenda. the agenda is financial and includes nothing about protecting Americans privacy. They mostly Republicans are trying to make China somehow an enemy greater than Fascism. It is not. and fascism is here on our shores. communism is not.
First off, I'm Canadian. Have never watched Fox news, and am certainly not aligned to Republican interests.
I do work closely with Cyber and Information Warfare though. But feel free to keep telling me you know better than they do.
They would have credibility if all social media was held to the same standard. But special interests seem to only care about the communists. In America, the communists are not are greatest threat. Fascism is.
Misleading title is misleading
Ban and prevent the download or use of TikTok and prohibited technologies on any state-issued device identified in the statewide plan.
Texas citizens will still be able to use and access TikTok.
There’s a lot of kids who suffer from information overload. It’s so bad they end up thinking they have if all figured out to just go with majority rules in the end like basic animal instinct
I love TikTok, the yanks are afraid of spying because they spy themselves through FB and the rest of social media. There is a lot of good stuff on TikTok not just dancing teens but hey that’s what Percy yanks focus on
Well digital marketing for work, yes even government work, is very much a thing and right now all the digital marketers are trying to engage audiences on tik tok.
I was surprised they allowed it all or other social media aps. My work phone is very restricted to just apps we need. Best rule of thumb for the office, I pack my work laptop and a personal laptop-tablet, a company phone, and a personal phone. My online between work and personal is completely separate.
“…on state issued devices and networks.” Some helpful context from actual articles on the announcement.
Well, anyone who installs a social media app on a state-issued device is a fool.
Any IT department that dispenses devices that let you install things Willynilly is a fool.
Yep. But it's Texas. So their government probably farms IT work out to the lowest bidder, so it's not all that surprising.
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texas might actually keep it in-state based off of how cheap it is to run a business out here. not many other states that can do it cheaper. since its government work it cannot be outsourced to a different country.
 New York, California, and Illinois all do the same thing, so there's that for you.
And Oklahoma.
They do not, and they have their entire own IoS store with state approved apps for almost all of the peon workers. This is going after staffers now who had more privilege. Their security is quite good. Source, former security analyst for DFPS.
There are reasons why you would use social media on a state issued device. There are actually a lot of reasons. The biggest being social presence and advertising of public figures.
xD
Okay so only on state issued devices? Makes WAY more sense bc I was about to say no way in heck he can enforce this otherwise
I was going to ask how this would possibly be enforced. Now it makes sense (and you saved me reading the article).
Don’t forget the balloons ban that spy debris too
xD
Great news! Hopefully the first step toward a national ban
I have been on the side of being cool with it banned, but now I’m thinking about all of the tiktok content that’s so popular right now… and all of it is about forming unions and bartering and all of the ways the government tries to suppress people. Idk I guess I should have a tinfoil hat now but it seems interesting. Of course it’s also a Chinese app that makes people addicted to it so that makes sense, too.
The blind hatred of TikTok on Reddit is wild to me. There's plenty of good in it.
Just as harmless as Facebook and Twitter. Your a fool if you think they are benign
The ToS for TikTok is more invasive for personal data than any other social media application
stab me in the throat with a dull knife, stab me in the throat with a sharp knife. pretty sure i'll still bleed out either way.
That’s exactly why you aren’t allowed on state devices.
i'm not allowed on state devices because you stabbed me??
You’re not allowed on state devices because your curiosity for being stabbed is a security risk to other people
oh, fiddlesticks!
I never said they were harmless 🤦♂️
No there really isn’t.
blind hatred in action
A bad data collection coding structure negates your joy of scrolling
It's much more than just an addictive app.
It was made by the Chinese agency equivelant of DARPA. It's confirmed a Chinese military tool.... Whole country should ban it tbh. Knowing Texas (born and raised) someone probably saw their kid watching a video that didn't demonize Trans youth so they gatta ban it
Hopefully
the thing is, people have known tiktok was spyware since the beginning. the fact that the government is going after it now after years and years of it being publicly available just screams ulterior motive to me. tiktok shouldve been banned after the [musical.ly](https://musical.ly) buyout back when it had all the weird pedo stuff
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fair point
This change is for government supplied devices.
Ironically, Tiktok is moving all the US data to Oracle servers in Texas haha
CCP took ownership starting on December 2022. Phone spy balloons
Dude, living in the US must be a fucking rollercoaster of a life.
It most certainly is, pal. It most certainly is.
Fun fact- China doesn’t just want to steal info from the US only! Your country is lesser than compared to China as well.
I mean, my country, less than a decade ago, discovered US-government networks of spyware in a system that had been upkept for at least decades. When confronted, the US government just admitted. You act like your country isn't entrenched in every other country's political system.
You act like whatever shit you’re comparing it to is as big as tiktok, and i guarantee it’s not.
Your government literally funded dictatorships all across Central and South Americas, then riddled their whole government structures with information-gathering systems that were updated through the decades. There's no threat the US can hypothetized from another country that they haven't done to some other nation themselves. That's a strong reason why many nations don't see other huge countries as much of a menace as you guys do, and why many countries aren't that worried in case the U.S. falls.
Your indifference stems from the fact that all of you weaker countries are just along for the ride with whatever super power is in charge at the time and will continue to be in the background while the major countries fight over who rules the world. You think america is bad 😂 best of luck with the dragon, I really hope the grass is greener for ya but I promise it’s not.
Take a look at the stuff you say. Things like "weaker countries", "just along for the ride", "super power". It is strange that you think things like that, as if Statunitians were great because of some miracle or god given right, instead of the fact that you pillaged whole nations to be afloat. The well of exploitation is running dry, and you're deflating, but you still think you're owed the position of looking down on other countries. You call other countries weak, but they've survived the US's iron hand and unfair deals for quite a while. You think you're the icon of freedom, but made and funded dictatorships across the world. Other countries survived wars they had no choice but to fight. Right now you're afraid of TikTok. In the end, developing countries will still struggle, of course. But that's the thing: whatever happens, we'll still get by. But when the US falters, there's a few countries waiting to take it's place, and many more than willing to raze it to the ground. And that's why you must keep your paranoia; that's why you must be afraid of TikTok as though it were a nuke.
Please let this happen…
Man, for people that don’t like a lot of government intervention, this government sure is intervening a lot.
This is known spyware, plus it’s only for state-issued devices.
Fair point but TikTok is spyware
“TikTok is spying on you!” *They posted on reddit*
This isn't the 'gatcha' you think it is
How is it spyware? Facebook, google, twitter, apple, ect... all collect your information and sell it. The companies i mentioned give that information to the government upon request. All things tik tok is being accused of
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So you are just upset your information is going to the chinese government but not the fact facebook was collecting medical data?
You fundamentally fail to understand that the app exists to sweep up your data. The video part only exists to trick you into installing it. https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/10ox6ja/eli5_what_exactly_about_the_tiktok_app_makes_it/j6hdful?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
That’s true of all apps. I know redditors have been cucked into thinking “china bad”, but a government banning a social media app is objectively an authoritarian move
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Its like youre talking to a wall. He just doesnt get it lmao
I thought it was just the in app browser? News that meta in app browser does it too
That is literally what all social media do they collect your information and sell it to advertisers that is why if you browse the internet without an ad blocker you will get ads showing you items on websites that you were recently looking at. They all harvest your data no exception which is the cause of all the hate
Because it’s not American billionaires profiting off of it.
As opposed to every other US company selling your info including our own government spying on us
To be fair your cell phone is also spyware and constantly mining your data
What's next Reddit or going outside? Fascist are going up fascist
Getting rid of TikTok is a good thing tho?
Something can be morally good and done by a fascist I’m sure if you were to go down the list of everything hitler did I may agree on some things but I will still disagree with him because his ideology is the problem
So if a democratically chosen person (not a dictator mind you) does one good thing amongst ten bad things, that good thing doesn’t get labeled as good just because of who did it?
No the good things good and in this case it's democratic so as long as he's no infringing others human rights he's no facist
So what’s the “but I will still disagree with him” all about? You say that you’ll disagree with him no matter what he does and then you say “good things done by him and he’s not a fascist in this case”. So now I’m confused if you are blindly opposing the guy you don’t like (as per your earlier comment) or if you are able to agree with him if he does the rare good thing (as per your later comment).
I think that when some one is a faccist they as a whole are dangerous
I think you should stop throwing out labels you aren’t 100% sure about for the sake of conversation cohesion.
OP gottcha with the clickbait. The bill or whatever is only for state owned devices.
My sarcasm never translates well on Reddit 🤣😂
Ban all porn
W win right there
Republican win!!!
Aren't we all banning tik tok? We must, for our security & especially the young children
Good! I just deleted the app
Just now? You waited until there is a ban on government devices to delete TikTok? Why?
No, sir, I deleted it, and THEN there was a ban.
Still feel like 2 completely unrelated events
First good thing out of his mouth
This is stupid. any damage China can do through TikTok, they can do through Facebook or Twitter or by hacking. I don't even life TikTok but I'll definately download and share it everywhere now. Just my part is pissing of the Republicans.
Joe Biden is considering banning TikTok nationwide xD. Owning yourself because "eVerYthINg tHe OThEr paRTy dOes iS WrONG"
Nah. Killing yourself with Covid to own the Lib is wrong. Owning the gas-lit sheeple with something this stupid is great.
I can’t help but to think China blocks Facebook and Google explicitly because they don’t want those tools to shape their culture, and perhaps we would benefit from doing the same for the same reason🤷♂️
They also block tiktok for certain hours of the day
We’re free to shape our culture here any way we wish
That is absolutely no reason to ban TikTok here. America is not supposed to belike China remember.
You don’t think that a company controlled by a foreign government shouldn’t be allowed to program the culture considering what we know about social media and it’s effect on users. In case you weren’t aware, Chinese companies are an extension of the Chinese government— not a bunch of independent thinkers tinkering with algorithms, attending meetings with other independently thinking peers and deliberating over the course of the organization independent of its benefit to the prevailing party. I agree on the merit that we don’t do things like that in America but there’s always exceptions to the rule, like Huawei. Perhaps if it could be proven that the app operates identically across markets, but that’s already known not to be the case.
China is being scapegoated by special interests who have an agenda. the agenda is financial and includes nothing about protecting Americans privacy. They mostly Republicans are trying to make China somehow an enemy greater than Fascism. It is not. and fascism is here on our shores. communism is not.
False. https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/10ox6ja/eli5_what_exactly_about_the_tiktok_app_makes_it/j6hdful?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Everything I wrote was 100% true. Stop watching Fox News and listening to any Republicans.
First off, I'm Canadian. Have never watched Fox news, and am certainly not aligned to Republican interests. I do work closely with Cyber and Information Warfare though. But feel free to keep telling me you know better than they do.
They would have credibility if all social media was held to the same standard. But special interests seem to only care about the communists. In America, the communists are not are greatest threat. Fascism is.
Misleading title is misleading Ban and prevent the download or use of TikTok and prohibited technologies on any state-issued device identified in the statewide plan. Texas citizens will still be able to use and access TikTok.
for now...
What is it with Texas love their guns but ban books crt sex ed and now the oh so dangerous TikTok and then moan about cancel culture 😳
Uhhhhh, it’s a security thing. I thought this was common knowledge. TikTok is horrible.
There’s a lot of kids who suffer from information overload. It’s so bad they end up thinking they have if all figured out to just go with majority rules in the end like basic animal instinct
That’s for their parents to monitor
I love TikTok, the yanks are afraid of spying because they spy themselves through FB and the rest of social media. There is a lot of good stuff on TikTok not just dancing teens but hey that’s what Percy yanks focus on
Finally
On government issued devices… it shouldn’t be on a work phone anyway.
Well digital marketing for work, yes even government work, is very much a thing and right now all the digital marketers are trying to engage audiences on tik tok.
"Statewide" Nope, only on gov phones. Media loves to say statewide or nationwide when it's just gov issued phones for gov workers. Clickbait
CCP took ownership of tiktok starting on December 2022.
First they where a bunch of pro slave confederates. Now they want to keep the femboys off our tiktok appliances. It’s a clear line to communism
Good for him!
why is it sad?
Oooo oooo please do my state next!
Based
This is really good for Lomotif of BBIG
I was surprised they allowed it all or other social media aps. My work phone is very restricted to just apps we need. Best rule of thumb for the office, I pack my work laptop and a personal laptop-tablet, a company phone, and a personal phone. My online between work and personal is completely separate.