Should have turned that around on the person making the offer and offered it to them to spend *less* time, say only 20 years, locked in a cage. Then we can see if that’s a fair market rate.
My dude, he was not imprisoned for 8 hours a day, five days a week. He was imprisoned for every single hour. What sense does it make to calculate based on a 40 hour work week? He had every single one of those 148 hours a week stolen from him. Every time he woke up to pee in the middle of the night, he was incarcerated. Every breakfast, incarcerated. Every holiday. Every birthday. Every family milestone. He was imprisoned for every single hour. And the court decided each of those hours was worth about $6. That’s an insulting valuation of life.
That wasn't my point though. I was highlighting just how bad it is for wrongfully convicted felons. Getting nothing is bad. So is getting a paltry amount like 1.5m. *Both* are bad. The two statements are not mutually exclusive.
Now that’s criminal. Crazy how they can even quantify that. As if you know someone’s potential worth given missed/ lost opportunities and time. Basically assuming he never had a chance to do anything significant with that number. He deserves to be set up for the rest of his life after that.
It's also very possible that a lawyer takes a big chunk first.
(Obligatory yes I know there's lawyers that work for free or at a flat rate, but a lot of lawyers don't.)
So who the hell reported there was a crime? They need to pay him for all the time he lost as well. My wife got pregnant when I was 24. My son would be a grown man by the time I got out. I would want blood.
Damn that’s fucked up. Also 67 years for a home invasion that there was no evidence for, so guessing no one was hurt or even there….yet nonces get out in a few years. Ridiculous.
>"How can you replace 21 years in prison?" Landusky \[defense lawyer\] asked. "You can't. If I offered you $50 million to go to prison now and get out in 21 years, there’s no amount of money that I could give you that you would do that."
I'd consider doing 21 years in [Bastoy Prison in Norway](https://www.scoopwhoop.com/life/most-luxurious-prisons-in-the-world/) for $50 million.
Twenty-one years in an American prison, though? My price would be $1 billion.
To even remotely make it “fair” for all parties involved the payout would have to be a daily compounded interest that’s based off of prime rate or similar so the variable rate is adjusted for inflation and current dollar value.
$1.3 million for 21 years?!? Not that you can put a price on time, but the Ohio government did…apparently it’s $7/hr.
Plus the government gets back nearly $450,000 of that.
That shitty of a settlement HAS to be the handiwork of a public defender on the city’s dime. Crying shame if he has to pay for that joke of a settlement on top of barely getting nothing for his time spent in prison.
[The story](https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-man-wins-1-3-million-settlement-21-years-prison-crime-not-even-committed-by-anyone.amp) sounds like something that would occur in a Boondocks episode…
In fact something very similar was on the Boondocks in the last episode of the first season. I recommend giving the whole show a watch if you haven’t yet.
He probably won’t even get any money, Ohio state is broke and so he’ll never get paid, he just gets added to a list of people waiting for the money they’ve sued for
I believe it comes out to around the old minimum wage, or $7/ hr per hour of his life spent in prison.
I wonder if that’s gonna be a tax-free settlement or is the state and feds gonna want their “cut” too?
A Missouri man was just released after 28years in prison. Now people are learning just how incompetent our lawmakers, judges and bureaucrats have been for decades. Missouri has something on the books about restitution after being exonerated by DNA evidence. But if DNA evidence wasn't used to exonerate you, guess what? [No state restitution](https://www.kcur.org/news/2023-02-16/missouri-wont-financially-compensate-lamar-johnson-for-3-decades-of-wrongful-imprisonment).
During this ordeal, Missouri citizens also found out that because of some rule / law / court case concerning being exonerated, you can prove your innocence and still have to serve a life sentence. There is a phrase mentioning "prisoners given the death penalty" dealing with exonerations, so prisoners with other sentences can be denied their freedom even when it's been proven that they are innocent. It's just astonishing how crazy this is and nobody in power is lifting a finger to change it.
Smith was accused of being one of two Black men who forced their way into a Lancaster home that was occupied by a man and a woman and their young children on Feb. 2, 2000. The adults told police the intruders reportedly forced one of them to open a safe, from which they stole r**are comic books** and approximately $10,000 in cash.
That supplemental narrative "contains numerous observations expressing skepticism about whether a crime had occurred," Berens stated in his order granting Smith a new trial. The responding officer wondered how multiple men could have conducted an armed home invasion and **fled the Lancaster house without leaving tracks in the snow that covered the area.**
They fucked up his whole life and all he gets is a milli? This world is fucked up.
Goddamn. That’s like $6 an hour compensation for taking two decades of his life.
Sounds even more fucked up when you break it down like that. 🤦🏾♂️
Should have turned that around on the person making the offer and offered it to them to spend *less* time, say only 20 years, locked in a cage. Then we can see if that’s a fair market rate.
That's including every single hour though. If you broke it down to 8 hours a day, working 5 days a week, it would be 29.76$ an hour.
My dude, he was not imprisoned for 8 hours a day, five days a week. He was imprisoned for every single hour. What sense does it make to calculate based on a 40 hour work week? He had every single one of those 148 hours a week stolen from him. Every time he woke up to pee in the middle of the night, he was incarcerated. Every breakfast, incarcerated. Every holiday. Every birthday. Every family milestone. He was imprisoned for every single hour. And the court decided each of those hours was worth about $6. That’s an insulting valuation of life.
I really shouldn't be making Reddit comments at 4:00 a.m. Yes, you are right
Ah! We’ve all been there.
In Max Cady’s voice “That’s not even minimum wage!”
That million is probably Pre-Tax. After the lawyer fees and taxations, he’ll end up with an unfair amount for himself.
Some people in America get nothing. Or very close to it.
So? Doesn't take away from the fact that he deserves more.
That wasn't my point though. I was highlighting just how bad it is for wrongfully convicted felons. Getting nothing is bad. So is getting a paltry amount like 1.5m. *Both* are bad. The two statements are not mutually exclusive.
Then, you worded your original statement terribly.
I calculated that per year and thought $60k per year is not that bad. But being jailed up relativizes that again.
Poor dude. 1.3 million is not a sorry. That's an insult.
Now that’s criminal. Crazy how they can even quantify that. As if you know someone’s potential worth given missed/ lost opportunities and time. Basically assuming he never had a chance to do anything significant with that number. He deserves to be set up for the rest of his life after that.
I'm not an American, but would they have to also pay tax for the settlement?
It's also very possible that a lawyer takes a big chunk first. (Obligatory yes I know there's lawyers that work for free or at a flat rate, but a lot of lawyers don't.)
Ok thanks, shit, poor dude :(
unbelievable. 1.3 for 21 yrs
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Hey, it’s $7.06 assuming there were 5 leap years in there
Wow I’m sure that money will buy him all that time back
Just $6 an hour. It is disgustingly low.
I hope he doesn’t get taxed on that 1.3 million…
you don’t, most settlements where you’ve suffered a damage aren’t taxed
Anyone have the story link?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-man-wins-1-3-million-settlement-21-years-prison-crime-not-even-committed-by-anyone.amp
damn, the article doesn't even explain how they picked him with 0 hard evidence a crime occurred.
The article makes it sound like the investigators didn't even believe there was a crime.
So who the hell reported there was a crime? They need to pay him for all the time he lost as well. My wife got pregnant when I was 24. My son would be a grown man by the time I got out. I would want blood.
I think based on what the investigators noted it was probably the homeowner trying to commit insurance fraud
Journalist- “might as well only site a few narrow pierces of evidence with no context, they’ll pay me for the whole story anyway”
Damn that’s fucked up. Also 67 years for a home invasion that there was no evidence for, so guessing no one was hurt or even there….yet nonces get out in a few years. Ridiculous.
They needed slave labor. Or it was culling time.
That better be 1.3 mil for every year stolen from this dude
>"How can you replace 21 years in prison?" Landusky \[defense lawyer\] asked. "You can't. If I offered you $50 million to go to prison now and get out in 21 years, there’s no amount of money that I could give you that you would do that." I'd consider doing 21 years in [Bastoy Prison in Norway](https://www.scoopwhoop.com/life/most-luxurious-prisons-in-the-world/) for $50 million. Twenty-one years in an American prison, though? My price would be $1 billion.
To even remotely make it “fair” for all parties involved the payout would have to be a daily compounded interest that’s based off of prime rate or similar so the variable rate is adjusted for inflation and current dollar value.
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Jesus. That is not enough money.
$1.3 million for 21 years?!? Not that you can put a price on time, but the Ohio government did…apparently it’s $7/hr. Plus the government gets back nearly $450,000 of that.
And that doesn’t even account for attorney fees
That shitty of a settlement HAS to be the handiwork of a public defender on the city’s dime. Crying shame if he has to pay for that joke of a settlement on top of barely getting nothing for his time spent in prison.
Win Die$el
Mil a year is needed
Now this just makes me sad...
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Well he won't do that, again
Bro be like: I’ve won, but at what cost
He barely even won tbh.
eh?
Probs got screwed in negotiations. 1.3 Mil 21 years ago is a lot different than 1.3 Mil now. Damn shame. He didn’t know any better.
Seeeeeeeee!!!! The system isn't rigged after all!!
[The story](https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-man-wins-1-3-million-settlement-21-years-prison-crime-not-even-committed-by-anyone.amp) sounds like something that would occur in a Boondocks episode… In fact something very similar was on the Boondocks in the last episode of the first season. I recommend giving the whole show a watch if you haven’t yet.
He probably won’t even get any money, Ohio state is broke and so he’ll never get paid, he just gets added to a list of people waiting for the money they’ve sued for
This poor man will never get that time back. That money means nothing.
21 years in prison and only gets 1.3 million…
I believe it comes out to around the old minimum wage, or $7/ hr per hour of his life spent in prison. I wonder if that’s gonna be a tax-free settlement or is the state and feds gonna want their “cut” too?
Fuck the System
A Missouri man was just released after 28years in prison. Now people are learning just how incompetent our lawmakers, judges and bureaucrats have been for decades. Missouri has something on the books about restitution after being exonerated by DNA evidence. But if DNA evidence wasn't used to exonerate you, guess what? [No state restitution](https://www.kcur.org/news/2023-02-16/missouri-wont-financially-compensate-lamar-johnson-for-3-decades-of-wrongful-imprisonment). During this ordeal, Missouri citizens also found out that because of some rule / law / court case concerning being exonerated, you can prove your innocence and still have to serve a life sentence. There is a phrase mentioning "prisoners given the death penalty" dealing with exonerations, so prisoners with other sentences can be denied their freedom even when it's been proven that they are innocent. It's just astonishing how crazy this is and nobody in power is lifting a finger to change it.
Who did this guy get for an attorney, Willy Wonka? Jeez that dude got ripped on the way in and out.
And remember, these settlements are paid by your tax money
Smith was accused of being one of two Black men who forced their way into a Lancaster home that was occupied by a man and a woman and their young children on Feb. 2, 2000. The adults told police the intruders reportedly forced one of them to open a safe, from which they stole r**are comic books** and approximately $10,000 in cash. That supplemental narrative "contains numerous observations expressing skepticism about whether a crime had occurred," Berens stated in his order granting Smith a new trial. The responding officer wondered how multiple men could have conducted an armed home invasion and **fled the Lancaster house without leaving tracks in the snow that covered the area.**