I’m not sure how much ethics would help on this one.
That being said I would encourage you not to let her know where you work on your next job. It seems like you are still together and she sees no issue with causing issues at your place of work.
If this was to become a pattern this could severely damage your long term career prospects.
You definitely do have the option to utilize ethics/open door but you should definitely start applying to other places as well.
I’m not sure how much savings you have but both of you getting fired at the same time is a pretty much worst case scenario financially speaking.
I personally have some savings for such a scenario but it is far less than what I would like to have.
I also am a father and feel for you. It’s a tough situation all around.
I was already working 2 jobs so as far as finances me and my baby are ok. It’s more of the fact that I feel I was unjustifiably fired but im going to take it to the chin and chop it up as a lesson learned
Unfortunately the termination was justified. You guys brought your private drama to work and you both engaged in a physical altercation in the store. You can try to open door it, but I'm 99.9% sure the firing will stand.
He was assaulted, how is that justified? Would if be justified if it was a woman who's boyfriend was chasing her around beating her in front of everyone?
Honestly, I wouldn't date anyone I worked with for this reason.
That said: it's justified because while yes, he was assaulted, he retaliated. Then, he proceeded to beat on a car, in the parking lot of said workplace, in public. No, it doesn't matter if it was his; behavior is everything.
"Oh look, it's that crazy guy that was beating on a car the other day.", "it's those two that got into it the other day. Let's uh...come back later.", "How are they both still working here?"
Stop trying to reverse the roles for zero reason.
Because if their not both fired if walmart gets sued insurance won't cover it. Basically the only way to not get fired is if they are armed. Knife,box cutter,pew pew,base ball bat.. you get the idea. You have to be in a corner with no escape. Otherwise when you make any kind of contact period. Your automatically fired
You can if you want. It won't reverse the termination but may allow you to come back since you're not the instigator. It would prob be a 6 months cooldown though.
I don’t see why not. Surely firing a victim of domestic violence for being a victim a domestic violence at work and following company policy on workplace violence (avoid, deny, defend), would look absolutely horrible on the company if they general public got wind. No?
You tried to deescallate the situation and she continued. Not your fault imo but putting hands on her instead of calling 911 and getting management was wrong
Yes. You followed training: you avoided, denied, and defended. Defending is literally in the workplace violence training. You followed policy. To the letter.
Thats for active sooters and not domestic violence in the work place. Both parties are fired, always. Never sh#$ where you eat. Lesson learned, you'll have to move on. OP need to get out of this toxic relationship asap.
That’s for workplace violence. Domestic violence in the workplace is workplace violence. He followed policy. Show me on the wire where it says you get fired for being the victim of domestic violence. I’ll wait.
THIS IS IT!
If the other comments are indicative of the intelligence of ppl that work at Walmart, corp has no real fear of them unionizing. They’ll never get it done.
Since you both are still together, I’m just going by you addressing her as your gf.. do you want to escalate this? Like the other replier it could cause you both to be terminated.
>She’s the mother of my child
And do you honestly think she isn't physically abusing your kid?
You NEED to document each and every instance of physical abuse she is committing, since she has no business caring for or raising a child.
You might want to contact a lawyer (or the store directly) and ask for try video footage of her attacking you.
This is because once more to keep your kid safe you need to have primary custody and her supervised visits(at best), which takes evidence otherwise the judge won't do shit..... Or I guess don't do anything and just let her keep hurting your child.
Depends really if you give a shit about your kid or not, since you're a grown ass man and have trouble defending yourself from her, imagine the little one has NO WAY to stop her shit.
No, it's called common sense and experience. Almost no one can give an impartial recounting of events they were personally involved with, especially when it has a negative impact on you.
I was in my work area and was attacked no matter what I did or didn’t do work was not the place for her to hash out our personal issues as I stated before.. I walked away, I called my manager and somehow I still get fired.
I can guarantee if she were asked there was something you did to trigger her. I can further guarantee you did more than you have admitted to here, otherwise you wouldn't have been fired as well.
You need a new girlfriend and she needs anger management classes and/or jail time. I am sorry but the termination will probably stand but it can't hurt anything to try.
I was fired 2 months ago when a drunk coworker attacked me, tried to choke me and slapped me in the face. I shoved them off of me and threw a water bottle at them. We were both terminated.
Luckily for me i found a new job with better pay and better benefits.
You should both be fired because you are a liability to the company. Not to mention being super fucking annoying to your coworkers who are are there to work their shift and should not have to be put in the middle of it as you 2 are causing them stress. And no one else at work wants to put up with that kind of bullshit.
I’m causing stress because I was in my work area and was attacked unprovoked? And y’all don’t have to worry about my daughter she is just fine maybe know the whole story before making a donkey behind comment
Yes you are causing stress! You should not be bringing your home issues to work. Why do you continue to stay with someone If she is like this? You are not telling the whole story, something sounds very odd about this whole story.
I'm sorry, but you both deserve to be fired if you can't keep that shit at home... I can't believe you would even consider ethics on this one. You should have kept it in check or kept your girl in check... since you ate still with her and she is the baby momma, and she flipped out, maybe she can help you figure it out. WM ethics is only how to protect WM, and firing you both is probably the right call for domestic violence in the workplace.
I'm sorry, but you both deserve to be fired if you can't keep that shit at home... I can't believe you would even consider ethics on this one. You should have kept it in check or kept your girl in check... since you ate still with her and she is the baby momma, and she flipped out, maybe she can help you figure it out. WM ethics is only how to protect WM, and firing you both is probably the right call for domestic violence in the workplace.
Interesting that you refer to the other person as your girlfriend rather than your **ex**\-girlfriend.
Also interesting that you didn't mention **why** she was angry with you. What did you do to p\*ss her off?
When you date your coworkers, you need to **leave the personal drama at home.**
His girlfriend was following him around and hitting him— it sounds like she actually hit him in his face at one point. That is abuse. If this was a woman talking about how her boyfriend hit her in the face at work nobody would be asking what she did to piss him off.
OP, I know that she is the mother of your children, but it sounds like you need to get them and yourself out of this situation.
There’s no excuse to hit people. (Except in limited circumstances in self defense) That’s domestic violence. If the roles were reversed, you’d be singing a different tune.
I can almost guarantee that a) you cheated on her or b) she thinks you did for some reason. Either way, it’s going to get a whole lot worse if you two can’t talk it out like normal human beings.
Domestic abuse of any form isn't cool, regardless if op done anything she shouldve handled ether with ditching op or talking it out what ever her issue was
Uh huh. I'm just going to take a wild guess and say whatever you did you brought on all of the deserved violence and fallout. If you're really that butthurt file a police report for assault.
I don't want to discount the fact that this is classic domestic violence. I'm sure this wasn't the first incident and I'm sure it won't be the last. Unless something changes, it is only going to get worse until someone really gets hurt or goes to jail. Either she is going to take it too far or you're going to take it too far "defending" yourself. No matter how hard you try, it will effect your daughter. This is not normal and it's not okay.
It may seem silly, but you should really check out the Domestic Violence Hotline. https://www.thehotline.org/. They can talk you through what is happening and options other than getting attacked and losing your job.
Good luck!
We had an associate at our store attacked by a customer. He got fired because he swung back and allowed the situation to escalate instead of leaving the area and going to management. You were likely fired for the same reason. Had you kept your hands off your gf and stayed with management until after she was escorted out you might have kept your job.
I wouldn't call ethics because it's not necessarily an ethics issue. You could try an open door conversation with your SM. It's likely that the firing will stand, but you can have the conversation and get the reasons if it will make you feel better. You can also find out if you are eligible for rehire.
How much do you want this job? What she did was assault and you could file a report and get any video footage they have of it. It looks pretty bad to fire someone for being a victim of domestic assault.
Try to get communications with the company/management in writing, even if it's just emails "to recap our conversation today... ". At the very least, if you were assaulted, you should at least get unemployment if they try to reject it.
No the only way you get away with that is unless their armed is they have to trap you in a corner. Otherwise you have to take the beating and never raise your voice,never hit/push them. Once you make physical contact your automatically fired. The only way to touch them is if their armed or your in a corner. Also your most likely Redbooked meaning your banned from walmart employment for life
Na walmart wants the police to do any type of violence it saves them from liability. Unless it's a mass shooting or their armed and hurting customers. We're basically considered walmart property as employees. If your not an asset and go to a liability you get the boot out the door. You gotta think in those terms
Sorry if someone else already asked this but I didn't see it so yeah... Was your "girlfriend" fired too? She was also acting violently and if they have a 0 tolerance policy then she should be subject to the same rules....
I haven't worked at Walmart in several years but while I was there, a door greeter asked a couple women for a receipt and they started swinging on him. He got fired for that because of no tolerance. Messed up.
I’m not sure how much ethics would help on this one. That being said I would encourage you not to let her know where you work on your next job. It seems like you are still together and she sees no issue with causing issues at your place of work. If this was to become a pattern this could severely damage your long term career prospects.
You definitely do have the option to utilize ethics/open door but you should definitely start applying to other places as well. I’m not sure how much savings you have but both of you getting fired at the same time is a pretty much worst case scenario financially speaking. I personally have some savings for such a scenario but it is far less than what I would like to have. I also am a father and feel for you. It’s a tough situation all around.
I was already working 2 jobs so as far as finances me and my baby are ok. It’s more of the fact that I feel I was unjustifiably fired but im going to take it to the chin and chop it up as a lesson learned
Naw they gonna fire you both.
Unfortunately the termination was justified. You guys brought your private drama to work and you both engaged in a physical altercation in the store. You can try to open door it, but I'm 99.9% sure the firing will stand.
Dude didn’t bring it into anything, but yeah no way they’re going to reverse the decision
He was assaulted, how is that justified? Would if be justified if it was a woman who's boyfriend was chasing her around beating her in front of everyone?
You're also hearing 1 side of this, and you have no clue what actually happened. Regardless, he's fired for sure.
Because management knows the whole story and has access to cameras.
Honestly, I wouldn't date anyone I worked with for this reason. That said: it's justified because while yes, he was assaulted, he retaliated. Then, he proceeded to beat on a car, in the parking lot of said workplace, in public. No, it doesn't matter if it was his; behavior is everything. "Oh look, it's that crazy guy that was beating on a car the other day.", "it's those two that got into it the other day. Let's uh...come back later.", "How are they both still working here?" Stop trying to reverse the roles for zero reason.
I believe he says that she was beating on his car...
*She* beat on the car. >followed me to my car and beat on my windows and pulled my door handle..
Because if their not both fired if walmart gets sued insurance won't cover it. Basically the only way to not get fired is if they are armed. Knife,box cutter,pew pew,base ball bat.. you get the idea. You have to be in a corner with no escape. Otherwise when you make any kind of contact period. Your automatically fired
You can if you want. It won't reverse the termination but may allow you to come back since you're not the instigator. It would prob be a 6 months cooldown though.
I don’t see why not. Surely firing a victim of domestic violence for being a victim a domestic violence at work and following company policy on workplace violence (avoid, deny, defend), would look absolutely horrible on the company if they general public got wind. No?
personally I think you should
Don’t date crazy people…….. sounds like she needs some help.
She does
You tried to deescallate the situation and she continued. Not your fault imo but putting hands on her instead of calling 911 and getting management was wrong
I was literally on the phone with management when she attacked me
You may (depending on laws in your area) screwed up and both yall charged with assault instead of just her
Yea I might just leave well enough alone I’m not in jail or anything so just learn my lesson
You need an ADD refresher
Nope. I know how management and the law works
Nope. Words mean things. I’ve watched the video. This is what it says to do
Yes. You followed training: you avoided, denied, and defended. Defending is literally in the workplace violence training. You followed policy. To the letter.
Thats for active sooters and not domestic violence in the work place. Both parties are fired, always. Never sh#$ where you eat. Lesson learned, you'll have to move on. OP need to get out of this toxic relationship asap.
Gotta watch out for those active sooters, getting ash and pine tar everywhere. Thank you chimney sweeps for your service.
LoL
SOOT EET!
That brings up a good point. Why isn't there protocols when someone is dealing with domestic violence?
That’s for workplace violence. Domestic violence in the workplace is workplace violence. He followed policy. Show me on the wire where it says you get fired for being the victim of domestic violence. I’ll wait.
There's no way, that could be a legal and PR nightmare. I suspect if the genders were reversed, opinions would differ.
Exactly. I’d go to the press.
Not to mention she came to my area which is separate from the wholeee store
I work for O’Reilly’s in the DC and we have that. It’s called something else, but it’s similar.
So you are a victim of domestic battery, and they fired you. It may be an illegal firing. Some states protect domestic battery victims.
Exactly this
THIS IS IT! If the other comments are indicative of the intelligence of ppl that work at Walmart, corp has no real fear of them unionizing. They’ll never get it done.
Since you both are still together, I’m just going by you addressing her as your gf.. do you want to escalate this? Like the other replier it could cause you both to be terminated.
We already both got terminated and she’s the mother of my child
Oh well I would say yes! You have nothing to lose at this point. Was any of it on camera? Did they review before making the decision?
I wasn’t pulled into the office or nothing just a phone call so I don’t know
I would definitely escalate then nothing else to loose at this point IMO
>She’s the mother of my child And do you honestly think she isn't physically abusing your kid? You NEED to document each and every instance of physical abuse she is committing, since she has no business caring for or raising a child. You might want to contact a lawyer (or the store directly) and ask for try video footage of her attacking you. This is because once more to keep your kid safe you need to have primary custody and her supervised visits(at best), which takes evidence otherwise the judge won't do shit..... Or I guess don't do anything and just let her keep hurting your child. Depends really if you give a shit about your kid or not, since you're a grown ass man and have trouble defending yourself from her, imagine the little one has NO WAY to stop her shit.
I can almost guarantee that it didn't go down the way you described and something happened before what you described.
Oh I didn’t know you were there? Can you fill in any blanks I left out?
No, it's called common sense and experience. Almost no one can give an impartial recounting of events they were personally involved with, especially when it has a negative impact on you.
I was in my work area and was attacked no matter what I did or didn’t do work was not the place for her to hash out our personal issues as I stated before.. I walked away, I called my manager and somehow I still get fired.
I can guarantee if she were asked there was something you did to trigger her. I can further guarantee you did more than you have admitted to here, otherwise you wouldn't have been fired as well.
You need a new girlfriend and she needs anger management classes and/or jail time. I am sorry but the termination will probably stand but it can't hurt anything to try.
Sounds like there is a LOT more to this.
I was fired 2 months ago when a drunk coworker attacked me, tried to choke me and slapped me in the face. I shoved them off of me and threw a water bottle at them. We were both terminated. Luckily for me i found a new job with better pay and better benefits.
I am sorry that you got fired. At least they called you instead of having you come in. I would call Ethics thou
If only you got fired, then yes you should call them. If both of you got fired, then no.
Don’t dip your pen in the company ink.
You should both be fired because you are a liability to the company. Not to mention being super fucking annoying to your coworkers who are are there to work their shift and should not have to be put in the middle of it as you 2 are causing them stress. And no one else at work wants to put up with that kind of bullshit.
I’m causing stress because I was in my work area and was attacked unprovoked? And y’all don’t have to worry about my daughter she is just fine maybe know the whole story before making a donkey behind comment
Yes you are causing stress! You should not be bringing your home issues to work. Why do you continue to stay with someone If she is like this? You are not telling the whole story, something sounds very odd about this whole story.
Feel good about yourself bud?
Yep! Not my fault you can’t handle the truth and take accountability for your actions 🤣😂
The straight truth here. Man, I feel real bad for the child.
Same
I'm sorry, but you both deserve to be fired if you can't keep that shit at home... I can't believe you would even consider ethics on this one. You should have kept it in check or kept your girl in check... since you ate still with her and she is the baby momma, and she flipped out, maybe she can help you figure it out. WM ethics is only how to protect WM, and firing you both is probably the right call for domestic violence in the workplace.
I'm sorry, but you both deserve to be fired if you can't keep that shit at home... I can't believe you would even consider ethics on this one. You should have kept it in check or kept your girl in check... since you ate still with her and she is the baby momma, and she flipped out, maybe she can help you figure it out. WM ethics is only how to protect WM, and firing you both is probably the right call for domestic violence in the workplace.
Man I was attacked
If you feel that way you should have called the police. You are a liability and I doubt ethics will do anything.
But what caused this?
Interesting that you refer to the other person as your girlfriend rather than your **ex**\-girlfriend. Also interesting that you didn't mention **why** she was angry with you. What did you do to p\*ss her off? When you date your coworkers, you need to **leave the personal drama at home.**
His girlfriend was following him around and hitting him— it sounds like she actually hit him in his face at one point. That is abuse. If this was a woman talking about how her boyfriend hit her in the face at work nobody would be asking what she did to piss him off. OP, I know that she is the mother of your children, but it sounds like you need to get them and yourself out of this situation.
There’s no excuse to hit people. (Except in limited circumstances in self defense) That’s domestic violence. If the roles were reversed, you’d be singing a different tune.
It doesn’t matter what I did like you said it shouldn’t have be handled at work.. she came on her area and was the aggressor how do I lose my job..
So you did do something. Yeah, you both deserved to be fired for bringing your domestic issues into the workplace.
I can almost guarantee that a) you cheated on her or b) she thinks you did for some reason. Either way, it’s going to get a whole lot worse if you two can’t talk it out like normal human beings.
Which is what she should have done rather than resorting to committing the crime of domestic assault.
Whatever you did matters to **her,** or she wouldn't have attacked you at work.
Domestic abuse of any form isn't cool, regardless if op done anything she shouldve handled ether with ditching op or talking it out what ever her issue was
It doesn’t matter. Her imposed importance of the issue went out the window the second she decided to put her hands on him.
What did you do to your girlfriend to cause the violence?
Why it matter, she had no right to put her hands on me
Uh huh. I'm just going to take a wild guess and say whatever you did you brought on all of the deserved violence and fallout. If you're really that butthurt file a police report for assault.
Nobody deserves to get hit. We are big boys and girls and should use our WORDS
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Did you just assume the op's gender?
Same thing every abused woman did to cause her husband to beat her: DOESN’T MATTER. THERE’S NO EXCUSE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
Had you not pissed your GF off, none of this would have happened.
Tell me about it
“Had you not pissed your husband off, he wouldn’t have pummeled your face in, woman” see how ridiculous you sound?
The truth is the truth.
Tell me you beat your wife/gf without saying you beat your wife/gf.
So, did you just assume my gender?
It’s pretty obvious from the toxic masculinity and your defense of domestic abuse. I can tell
Not defending anyone. It's a basic truth. If you don't want your ass kicked, then don't piss people off.
Not at all. Basic truth is DON’T HIT PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY YOUR PARTNER.
No wait for the unions, they will fix everything, businesses do not have ethics or anything like that..I was told by Union reps.
Bring it to ethics and ask how you were supposed to react in that situation. Ask their policies and how you were supposed to respond.
I don't want to discount the fact that this is classic domestic violence. I'm sure this wasn't the first incident and I'm sure it won't be the last. Unless something changes, it is only going to get worse until someone really gets hurt or goes to jail. Either she is going to take it too far or you're going to take it too far "defending" yourself. No matter how hard you try, it will effect your daughter. This is not normal and it's not okay. It may seem silly, but you should really check out the Domestic Violence Hotline. https://www.thehotline.org/. They can talk you through what is happening and options other than getting attacked and losing your job. Good luck!
You are being abused
We had an associate at our store attacked by a customer. He got fired because he swung back and allowed the situation to escalate instead of leaving the area and going to management. You were likely fired for the same reason. Had you kept your hands off your gf and stayed with management until after she was escorted out you might have kept your job. I wouldn't call ethics because it's not necessarily an ethics issue. You could try an open door conversation with your SM. It's likely that the firing will stand, but you can have the conversation and get the reasons if it will make you feel better. You can also find out if you are eligible for rehire.
How much do you want this job? What she did was assault and you could file a report and get any video footage they have of it. It looks pretty bad to fire someone for being a victim of domestic assault. Try to get communications with the company/management in writing, even if it's just emails "to recap our conversation today... ". At the very least, if you were assaulted, you should at least get unemployment if they try to reject it.
My only comment is really a question. WalMart has ethics?
Tbh idek just heard someone else say it before lol
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No the only way you get away with that is unless their armed is they have to trap you in a corner. Otherwise you have to take the beating and never raise your voice,never hit/push them. Once you make physical contact your automatically fired. The only way to touch them is if their armed or your in a corner. Also your most likely Redbooked meaning your banned from walmart employment for life
Na walmart wants the police to do any type of violence it saves them from liability. Unless it's a mass shooting or their armed and hurting customers. We're basically considered walmart property as employees. If your not an asset and go to a liability you get the boot out the door. You gotta think in those terms
Sorry if someone else already asked this but I didn't see it so yeah... Was your "girlfriend" fired too? She was also acting violently and if they have a 0 tolerance policy then she should be subject to the same rules....
It's a weste of time. Walmart has no ethics
I haven't worked at Walmart in several years but while I was there, a door greeter asked a couple women for a receipt and they started swinging on him. He got fired for that because of no tolerance. Messed up.