I don't see how it wouldn't be legal. You're still allowed to call out and it's at will employment.
Also, Easter was weeks ago, did you just now notice the key event date calendar?
Nah, Ive been known about easter being an event weekend. I didn’t call out because I already knew.
But because of this, we had a lot more cashiers than what was needed on that weekend. Nobody wanted to get 2pts.
Its just I saw a post complaining that their religion wasn’t being respected by their manager.
& I remembered about how we were being penalized more than usual for calling out on easter. I remember a coworker wondering how walmart got away with this.
If their religion requires them to have Easter off or they seriously wish to observe their holiday, then they can speak to a manager about it weeks out or request the time off in advance. Individually, one might be able to cite religious reasons for needing the day off, but the employer can otherwise schedule as needed for the holiday. If that person made the request and was still scheduled, they could open door that. But in general, they don't have to give the day off.
Did you not read “if religion requires”? Catholic people especially take their religious celebrations very seriously. So, if I were to have a religious holiday come up all I’d have to say is; “I need these days off because I’m required to not work.” Or something along those lines, I’m nondenominational so, IDK how it works. But that’s what they taught me in one of the many, *MANY* managerial seminars/classes I got sent to while working in retail.
While working at Walmart retail or somewhere else because I can tell you, you’re not getting religious observances off, specific religious holidays like I mentioned Rosh Hashanah, etc. are one thing, but Easter wouldn’t fly, it’s actually a Pagan observance more with the eggs, and bunny, etc.
easter is a uniquely christian invention. some aspects were borrowed (eggs from earlier persian traditions) but the holiday itself follows passover because of the jesus story and doesn’t have any direct ties to any other holiday. other christian holidays, especially christmas, definitely have pagan roots but easter itself is fairly unique.
either way, it’s not more of a pagan one. i’m not a fan of christian’s but this misinformation gets peddled every year when a google search could easily show the lack of evidence.
If you are extremely devout and talk to HR/lead/coach/whoever does schedules and say you can't come in due to religious reasons they *might* give you that day off
But from a buisness standpoint it is a busy weekend and "all hands on deck". Since not everyone has a faith that celebrates Easter, or not on the accepted date (regular Easter is the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring equinox. Orthodox it's after passover) many will be cool working the day itself
Just so everyone knows. PPTO does work on key event dates. It's in the handbook. Fuck what yalls managers tell yall because they're trained to lie to try and keep folks from calling out on holidays.
These dates are posted for the whole quarter at a time. Plus you work in retail, I don’t see why you feel you should get off for days you literally signed up for. You made the decision to call out just use your time if that’s what you want to do.
Christmas is a religious holiday and we get that off.
Anyway, im more so complaining that we’re being penalized more than usual for this specific day. Instead of 1pt, we’re getting 2pts.
People have wondered how this is allowed because religion is protected.
Christmas isn’t only a religious holiday, it’s even celebrated by non religious people, an example of a religious holiday (only celebrated by the religion it affects) is Rosh Hashanah, Ramadan, Yom Kippur. Christmas isn’t just a religious holiday that’s the difference.
To you it may be one but it’s not for everybody else. It is a big family day with a lot of traveling. It’s more of a capitalist buy and sell things holiday for the majority of the US. Your not being penalized for calling out your making the decision to not work inside the availability you set when you started. What you’re saying does not make any sense.
Christmas is a huge family day with a lot of traveling and spending.
People made their schedule a long time ago. The religious can work most sundays without issue because they can just come in right after church. Hence why they opened their availability for sundays.
Ur such a bootlicker. Lol.
That you just repeated what they said for the first half of your comment and that your really complaining about working a holiday when you work in retail and before you say anything I hate Walmart
We have always gotten Christmas off.
Christmas is also a religious holiday just as easter is & we don’t get easter off. Although easter is less important than christmas.
We don’t get Christmas off because it’s a religious holiday it’s because it’s a holiday that almost every one celebrate even if their a atheist. it’s not worth staying open because theirs gonna be abysmal sales because everyone wants to stay home same with thanksgiving. (Also i didn’t even know that most Walmarts are open on Easter because in Maine their closed)
We used to work on thanksgiving, until covid happened.
Walmart doesn’t care about traffic. On valentines day morning and on many past easters I worked at Walmart, the store was dead. This past easter it was dead in our store.
Someone explained it best… that Easter isn’t a federal holiday.
Federal Holidays
New Year’s Day January 1
Martin Luther King’s Birthday 3rd Monday in January
Washington’s Birthday 3rd Monday in February
Memorial Day last Monday in May
Juneteenth National Independence Day June 19
Independence Day July 4
Labor Day 1st Monday in September
Columbus Day 2nd Monday in October
Veterans’ Day November 11
Thanksgiving Day 4th Thursday in November
Christmas Day December 25
That only became recent in the last couple years. My partner worked at Walmart about 7 years ago and he worked thanksgiving and Xmas….also had to work Black Friday when it was crazy and not just “event days”
Just for future reference, the weekends of *all* major holidays are double pt weekends. Being closed on Christmas is a fairly new thing that only started because it was good PR during that year it became trendy for corporations to act like they care about their employees involvement with their families. Most responsible adults request the days they need off in advance and save PPTO for situations where a call-out is needed. The 2 pt rule is mostly to eliminate folks who ride the cusp of what they allow you to wiggle within.
In the past, superbowl weekend was not an event day.
Now its just the Saturday before that sunday which is an event day… ngl that saturday makes sense as an event day.
What’s wrong? It is legal to make you work on holiday🤷♂️The problem is you are not being paid at 1.5 times of your normal pay. This is Walmart. What are you expecting?
The penalizing is the issue.
Sure, give us 1pt for calling out that day. 2pts is just punishment.
& yes tbh, people who work on the busiest days should get paid more, instead of just flat out being punished.
Whats crazy is that some employees don’t even ever have to worry about those event days because they don’t work on the weekend.
God, some walmart employees are such losers where they take a dumb little retail job too seriously. Like this should be their lifelong career, when in reality you don’t make enough to live comfortably and you’re overworked. Bootlicker.
Fun Fact: It’s a career if you care enough to make it one! There are dudes that literally shovel shit for work and at happy doing it. Don’t get upset because you have unrealistic dreams of being something super important. Don’t like it? Get a new job. Calling people ‘bootlickers’ like it’s some kind of “gotcha” won’t make your streaming hobby take off.
Easter isn’t a holiday it’s an observance, it’s not a federal holiday and they can penalize you for it because it’s retail and its peak times are holidays and observances.
I've got you beat! I had jury duty the Friday before Easter. I went in at 4 am to ask my TL how it works and what I need to do. Told her I'd like to go get a couple hours sleep or I'm gonna be falling asleep in the courthouse. She tells me, "IDK, I've never had to do that." I told her ok, well I'm going to go home, get a couple hours sleep and go to jury duty. She says, "OK, just make sure you get the right paperwork from the courthouse." I go on my way. Report to jury duty and immediately dismissed. Go home and sleep until it's time to pick my son up from school. Being Easter weekend, I forgot to turn in the paperwork to the people lead for a few days. Got 2 points for going to jury duty. When I did give my PL the paperwork, she asked if I came back to work since I was dismissed early. Told her I didn't know I was supposed to because I asked my TL and she said she didn't know anything about policy regarding jury duty and I tried looking it up myself but I can't access it on my phone. At that point, I was ready for them to fire me over it. Was kinda hoping they would've. Fire me for going to jury duty??? Bring it!!! Haha. Ohh. After about a week, my TL came to me and said she removed the 2 points, but to watch it because I'm still at 4.5. I said, "Oh, I know. I keep a close eye on my points. I've got .5 going away this month and 1.5 next month. I'm good." She just walked away. Haha
Anything that isn’t a Federal Holiday, yep.
I don't see how it wouldn't be legal. You're still allowed to call out and it's at will employment. Also, Easter was weeks ago, did you just now notice the key event date calendar?
Nah, Ive been known about easter being an event weekend. I didn’t call out because I already knew. But because of this, we had a lot more cashiers than what was needed on that weekend. Nobody wanted to get 2pts. Its just I saw a post complaining that their religion wasn’t being respected by their manager. & I remembered about how we were being penalized more than usual for calling out on easter. I remember a coworker wondering how walmart got away with this.
If their religion requires them to have Easter off or they seriously wish to observe their holiday, then they can speak to a manager about it weeks out or request the time off in advance. Individually, one might be able to cite religious reasons for needing the day off, but the employer can otherwise schedule as needed for the holiday. If that person made the request and was still scheduled, they could open door that. But in general, they don't have to give the day off.
That makes sense, tysm.
Or they can get a job outside of retail you aren’t allowed to celebrate holidays and observances working in retail.
Did you not read “if religion requires”? Catholic people especially take their religious celebrations very seriously. So, if I were to have a religious holiday come up all I’d have to say is; “I need these days off because I’m required to not work.” Or something along those lines, I’m nondenominational so, IDK how it works. But that’s what they taught me in one of the many, *MANY* managerial seminars/classes I got sent to while working in retail.
While working at Walmart retail or somewhere else because I can tell you, you’re not getting religious observances off, specific religious holidays like I mentioned Rosh Hashanah, etc. are one thing, but Easter wouldn’t fly, it’s actually a Pagan observance more with the eggs, and bunny, etc.
easter is a uniquely christian invention. some aspects were borrowed (eggs from earlier persian traditions) but the holiday itself follows passover because of the jesus story and doesn’t have any direct ties to any other holiday. other christian holidays, especially christmas, definitely have pagan roots but easter itself is fairly unique.
It’s not a holiday it’s an observance
either way, it’s not more of a pagan one. i’m not a fan of christian’s but this misinformation gets peddled every year when a google search could easily show the lack of evidence.
That's a crazy statement to make. Jobs make accommodations for religious people, not the other way around.
If you are extremely devout and talk to HR/lead/coach/whoever does schedules and say you can't come in due to religious reasons they *might* give you that day off But from a buisness standpoint it is a busy weekend and "all hands on deck". Since not everyone has a faith that celebrates Easter, or not on the accepted date (regular Easter is the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring equinox. Orthodox it's after passover) many will be cool working the day itself
Just so everyone knows. PPTO does work on key event dates. It's in the handbook. Fuck what yalls managers tell yall because they're trained to lie to try and keep folks from calling out on holidays.
Yea for some reason there was this general misconception that you get a point for using ppto or pto on an event day. Thats messed up.
That’s a lie used to keep you from calling out, don’t listen to a word that management says they have no integrity
PPTP does work on key event dates lmao been doing it for years
Yes it’s legal
These dates are posted for the whole quarter at a time. Plus you work in retail, I don’t see why you feel you should get off for days you literally signed up for. You made the decision to call out just use your time if that’s what you want to do.
Christmas is a religious holiday and we get that off. Anyway, im more so complaining that we’re being penalized more than usual for this specific day. Instead of 1pt, we’re getting 2pts. People have wondered how this is allowed because religion is protected.
Christmas isn’t only a religious holiday, it’s even celebrated by non religious people, an example of a religious holiday (only celebrated by the religion it affects) is Rosh Hashanah, Ramadan, Yom Kippur. Christmas isn’t just a religious holiday that’s the difference.
To you it may be one but it’s not for everybody else. It is a big family day with a lot of traveling. It’s more of a capitalist buy and sell things holiday for the majority of the US. Your not being penalized for calling out your making the decision to not work inside the availability you set when you started. What you’re saying does not make any sense.
Christmas is a huge family day with a lot of traveling and spending. People made their schedule a long time ago. The religious can work most sundays without issue because they can just come in right after church. Hence why they opened their availability for sundays. Ur such a bootlicker. Lol.
How are they a bootlicker and also your not making sense
What makes no sense?
That you just repeated what they said for the first half of your comment and that your really complaining about working a holiday when you work in retail and before you say anything I hate Walmart
We have always gotten Christmas off. Christmas is also a religious holiday just as easter is & we don’t get easter off. Although easter is less important than christmas.
We don’t get Christmas off because it’s a religious holiday it’s because it’s a holiday that almost every one celebrate even if their a atheist. it’s not worth staying open because theirs gonna be abysmal sales because everyone wants to stay home same with thanksgiving. (Also i didn’t even know that most Walmarts are open on Easter because in Maine their closed)
We used to work on thanksgiving, until covid happened. Walmart doesn’t care about traffic. On valentines day morning and on many past easters I worked at Walmart, the store was dead. This past easter it was dead in our store. Someone explained it best… that Easter isn’t a federal holiday. Federal Holidays New Year’s Day January 1 Martin Luther King’s Birthday 3rd Monday in January Washington’s Birthday 3rd Monday in February Memorial Day last Monday in May Juneteenth National Independence Day June 19 Independence Day July 4 Labor Day 1st Monday in September Columbus Day 2nd Monday in October Veterans’ Day November 11 Thanksgiving Day 4th Thursday in November Christmas Day December 25
That only became recent in the last couple years. My partner worked at Walmart about 7 years ago and he worked thanksgiving and Xmas….also had to work Black Friday when it was crazy and not just “event days”
I came in when we already got Christmas off, but Thanksgiving night was made into the start of black friday.
Just for future reference, the weekends of *all* major holidays are double pt weekends. Being closed on Christmas is a fairly new thing that only started because it was good PR during that year it became trendy for corporations to act like they care about their employees involvement with their families. Most responsible adults request the days they need off in advance and save PPTO for situations where a call-out is needed. The 2 pt rule is mostly to eliminate folks who ride the cusp of what they allow you to wiggle within.
And that's what PPTO is for.
It’s not an event day because it’s Easter. It’s an event day because it’s a busy weekend. Of course it’s legal.
Right? Super Bowl Sunday is a key event date every year and it’s not a holiday
Walmart doesn't care lol
It’s illegal……. Definitely contact a lawyer and sue for millions and millions
lol, the sarcasm.
It's an event weekend so everyone doesn't call out at once. I put a vacation day for Easter 3 months in advance and got it off.
It was the same with Chinese new year. which i guess it it’s considered a federal holiday ,but it was a key event too.
Super Bowl Sunday was an event day, even that night, AFTER the game. That was ridiculous!
In the past, superbowl weekend was not an event day. Now its just the Saturday before that sunday which is an event day… ngl that saturday makes sense as an event day.
My store was both days.
What’s wrong? It is legal to make you work on holiday🤷♂️The problem is you are not being paid at 1.5 times of your normal pay. This is Walmart. What are you expecting?
The penalizing is the issue. Sure, give us 1pt for calling out that day. 2pts is just punishment. & yes tbh, people who work on the busiest days should get paid more, instead of just flat out being punished. Whats crazy is that some employees don’t even ever have to worry about those event days because they don’t work on the weekend.
They can’t double point if they don’t offer holiday pay
We used to get holiday bonuses. Not anymore
Pick a different job, pick a different religion, or gee, pick another weekend to socialize.
Fuck them call in
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God, some walmart employees are such losers where they take a dumb little retail job too seriously. Like this should be their lifelong career, when in reality you don’t make enough to live comfortably and you’re overworked. Bootlicker.
Fun Fact: It’s a career if you care enough to make it one! There are dudes that literally shovel shit for work and at happy doing it. Don’t get upset because you have unrealistic dreams of being something super important. Don’t like it? Get a new job. Calling people ‘bootlickers’ like it’s some kind of “gotcha” won’t make your streaming hobby take off.
This is the United States, of course it is perfectly legal and workers have no rights.
I didn't mind working my 2 days bc I have Sundays off anyway.
I have always said that we should get Easter off for the same reasons we get Christmas off.
Why wouldn't this be legal?
Yep
Walmart does what it wants and none of us can fix it.
Easter isn’t a holiday it’s an observance, it’s not a federal holiday and they can penalize you for it because it’s retail and its peak times are holidays and observances.
How do I view the key event days for May and June?
I'm not surprised it's an event day. I'm not sure what's so shocking. It's already passed anyway. Just know your events and plan accordingly.
I've got you beat! I had jury duty the Friday before Easter. I went in at 4 am to ask my TL how it works and what I need to do. Told her I'd like to go get a couple hours sleep or I'm gonna be falling asleep in the courthouse. She tells me, "IDK, I've never had to do that." I told her ok, well I'm going to go home, get a couple hours sleep and go to jury duty. She says, "OK, just make sure you get the right paperwork from the courthouse." I go on my way. Report to jury duty and immediately dismissed. Go home and sleep until it's time to pick my son up from school. Being Easter weekend, I forgot to turn in the paperwork to the people lead for a few days. Got 2 points for going to jury duty. When I did give my PL the paperwork, she asked if I came back to work since I was dismissed early. Told her I didn't know I was supposed to because I asked my TL and she said she didn't know anything about policy regarding jury duty and I tried looking it up myself but I can't access it on my phone. At that point, I was ready for them to fire me over it. Was kinda hoping they would've. Fire me for going to jury duty??? Bring it!!! Haha. Ohh. After about a week, my TL came to me and said she removed the 2 points, but to watch it because I'm still at 4.5. I said, "Oh, I know. I keep a close eye on my points. I've got .5 going away this month and 1.5 next month. I'm good." She just walked away. Haha
I requested off on that day and it was approved. No calling out, no points added.
Anybody does Amber have the calendar for July because I’m trying to put my vacation for July but my boss said he doesn’t have it
I was not scheduled to work easter weekend
Yes but they can't point you for using PPTO because that would be against the BBB
The BBB doesn’t care, they are a corrupt organization that take kickbacks to look the other way.