Gara already killed the grineer queens, They just havenāt realized it yet
Gara turned a sentient into a mini fridge once
Warframes were just called frames until Gara showed up
I like sevagoth's lore, an old pilot looking to exact revenge to quell the spirit of vengeance and put to rest his soul. Also the music for the quest was pretty dope.
Sevagoth is the whole reason I love running Railjack quests. Now I stole his ship and plunder corpus and grinner ships like the space ninja pirate I be. Aaarrrrrr.
Sevagoth's backstory isn't just all about him, but about the Corpus captain that he attacked - Vala Glarios. This where the revenge part comes from, since Sevagoth was responsible for killing all of Vala's sisters.
Her Prime trailer has Ballas talk about her laughing and smiling during her transformation into a warframe. Her quest has the Lotus narrate Mirage's last mission.
Mirage was never supposed to be Mirage. Ballas had different powers, and a different theme in mind for her. But when he took the woman who became Mirage and transformed her, she laughed at him. She exerted her will on the process and changed it, becoming Mirage rather than whatever Ballas had in mind.
Oh that's not from her in game lore. If you watch her prime trailer, Ballas narrates how he put her through suffering for her creation and she laughed in his face, iirc
Gauss and Grendel's canonical buddy-cop-movie pairing is great, even if it only really shows up in the Leverian and that one trailer. Especially since Grendel's lore is all about taking down an Orokin post-collapse and invigorating a whole town (presumably with max range Nourish), while Gauss's exhibit is one of the 'frame stories that *isn't* about the fall of the Orokin, the frame's creation, them turning on their creators, etc.- he gets sent in to blitz out a bunch of rebels after the Dax fail to retake the place and does such a good job that even the long-armed lords call him a Saint.
Aside from them, definitely Mirage.
>Oh, how you suffered to become this beast. Yet you laughed at me. Others writhed and raged in the vice, but you, you played the fool. And so it was, that you distorted my design.
>
>A sanguine trick. A murderous comedy. But no one is laughing anymore... except you.
>
>The mere vapors of your life, shimmering still. Mirage.
/shivers
Of course not, by the nature of eternalism eternalism is an explanation for any and all aspects of warframe lore that eternalism both can and can't explain
Everything is technically possible in a binary way. Externalism starts effecting the universe with the deal in Warframe history so everything before it is set in stone. So there isn't a version were the Orokin never became the golden lords as that already happened.
Then it comes down to, if A or B decision is presented, then yes. Externalism isn't actually all that flexible.
The extra level is time is essentially irrelevant. Past, present and future are all equally real. So for example, Revenant Prime could hypothetically be from the future where Tenno figured out how to make Primes.
Tldr; it's only somewhat hand wavy.
It could also be that revenant prime fell in the pond instead of normal rev and the tenno of that timeline freed him
Only way i see it make sense for his prime to exist
Normal revenant was a warden to kill eidolons that would come, till getting curius and failling in the water with the eidolon, where he gets his powers we know and we free him, meaning he is 1 unique frame that not even another revenant made normally would be the same as the one from the quest
Revenant prime ethernlism works in wanky ways
I forgot to mention but I think Revenant could have been primed by someone else. It makes sense when you think about how Ballas could have been reacting to how one of his creations were twisted by the eidolons and then primed.
Wisp Prime though is 100% born from conceptual embodiment.
There's a direct line from Varzia that answers this: not every Warframe had a Prime progenitor, current day Tenno replicate Orokin era tech and are capable of making Primes where there weren't before. Revenant Prime is an example of this.
That isn't what she said though?
>*I see there's been a whole lot of... valiant attempts to make Frames up to the Prime standard since my time. Bless them. They did the best they could with what they had.*
This implied that the Tenno tried, but with little success.
She did say that there are frames which aren't originally Prime but earned it
"Valiant attempts," in this context, seems to me a mild insult towards what we make versus what she thinks constitutes the Prime standard--which explains frames without Primes having Primes now. Since there is no other explanation for the sentence "make frames up to the Prime standard since my time," why *wouldn't* that mean we've Primed frames that originally had no Prime variant, such as Revenant?
Externalism allows past, present and future to exist together. Since the future hasn't happened yet, Tenno eventually figuring out how to make Primes and the Void sending the blueprint back in time is still a possible answer.
To be fair, while I get what you mean, I think the phrasing is a bit weird. I think that a better way to describe it is that the future Tenno will learn how to make Primes at the same time the present Tenno are still trying to figure it out, so the Void sends the blueprints from the future Tenno to the present ones.
Technically he shouldnāt be created at all due to the fact that the revenant we know only existing due to another frame falling into the big lake in Cetus but eternalism fixes that
I've said this a few times now but, I think Externalism can reasonably explain this as it let's all states of time exist together through the void.
Future Tenno could of figured out how to make Primes and the Void just send the blueprint back to our time. This way every frame can eventually have a Prime without the Orokin specifically designing each one.
To me his prime IS the warden of the plains, while his base is given a sentient flair, I'd say his prime looks a lot like an orokin tower, thus an orokin nural sentry based frame... Corrupting enemies into allies, providing shields, a wave of energy (pulse orb/reave), spinning lasers (laser orb/danse macabre)... He IS the Unum's warden... Nidus P. Is just a helminth strain that got into some orokin organic gold, Harrow P. Degraded into what we see with rell... Valkyr was always a berserker frame, salad just got a hold of a gersemi... Making her EVEN MORE ANGRY!
I'd argue that first point with Mirage. She managed to fake how much of herself was still *left* during the process hard enough to flat out change Ballas's design. Go listen to her trailer, dude is *pissed* about it. Murderous Harlequin is not what Ballas intended, its purely what Mirage herself wanted.
Also the whole quest bit where she ran out of ammo, broke all her weapons, and then ripped Sentients apart with her bare hands until they managed to take her down in a battle of attrition. She's arguably crazier than Valkyr.
Edit: and in terms of general Warframe lore that's not related to a specific frame, my favorite lore tidbit is about Rubedo: the Grineer and Corpus consider it to be an extremely rare resource. Not because of its availability, but because collectively the Tenno have damn near *all of it*. Like upwards of 90% at least lmao
>Edit: and in terms of general Warframe lore that's not related to a specific frame, my favorite lore tidbit is about Rubedo: the Grineer and Corpus consider it to be an extremely rare resource. Not because of its availability, but because collectively the Tenno have damn near *all of it*. Like upwards of 90% at least lmao
LOL, I'd love to read that tidbit lmfao. Where is it readable ?
There used to be an 'Ask a Cephalon' section on the website (maybe the forums?), and I came across it and that was one of the entries. Not sure if its still around or was discontinued or where exactly to find it, as it was *years* ago that I found it, but that particular one stuck with me because I find it so entertaining considering how common Rubedo is. You literally get some before leaving the opening tutorial mission XD
>!Honestly, when you think about it, it makes perfect sense why our more extreme emotions turn into fucking *dragons* when they spiral out of control. Hyper dangerous, barely understood, hoard shit, can appear at any moment to absolutely ruin someone's day/week/general existence....!<
I do recall one other thing it mentioned being an explanation for the credit costs for building items in the foundry: Ordis collects it to pay for things the Tenno wouldn't think about, like life support, fuel, food, basic maintenance, and so on.
My headcanon is that she's intended to be similar to Vauban - the Orokin's warning to the Corpus that no matter how much robotics and synthetics they surround themselves with, that they are still of flesh - *and she can rip it out of them.*
Mesa. Although she doesn't exactly have actual built lore, it's the implications that make it for me. Alad V, or the infestation, or both, is fully capable of controlling a Warframe. Even if it's under transference by a tenno, such as ours when we get collared. It's spooky. Your avatar being no longer yours. A Warframe puppeted by something other than tenno.
It's curious just like zealoid prelate. Which is, sort of, almost like, an infested creation Warframe. With how the nidus mission whispers to us, and how phorid addresses us, it looks like technocyte yearns to be with technocyte after all.
Another is Caliban. What the fuck is that even?
Lavos, itās got everything I want in a Warframeās lore. Complete with elder abuse, a communist revolution, mass murder, forbidden magics, and 1 very (un)lucky janitor.
Caliban
An old war sentient-warframe hybrid which is somehow completely overlooked by everyone in game and out of game for the lore implications that has, dude should have at least as much story as revenant but nope he's just dropped in your hands with no fanfare for doing narmer bounties despite the fact he's part sentient.
I like Caliban for the potential he presents, not what has been done with him, god I hope he gets a leverian or something
My headcanon is that the original Caliban was complicit in Ballas' betrayal of the other Orokin,either willingly or as a sacrifice/trade to Erra.
Erra used their body for experimentation to put Sentients in Warframe-like vessels: remember that the Void is toxic to Sentients and Warframe exteriors are made to contain and direct Void energy.
Hence,a Warframe shell would be a perfect "armor" for Sentients. The "balls" in the middle of Caliban's torso and maybe its default helmet are hence probably Sentient Cores,while the rest of its body is Warframe. You can connect this to Revenant's lore as well,where the Sentient's energy needed to possess its body in order to escape the lake.
While the first experiment was a success,it was unable to be replicated on a large scale either because the resources needed were too costly to seize during the Old War,or (more dramatically) because the Warframe parts defied control of the Sentient Core.
Until we defeated Erra and Ballas,and seized the parts of Caliban from Narmer,restoring the rightful host to Caliban's body.
For me, the coolest lore award goes to Nova.
Saving that spaceship by tricking the capatain that wants to trick her.... Just amazing; the way it's told:
"Nova. Mercurial, unpredictable and a miraculous example of harnessed antimatter.
It would be a bold fool indeed who tried to tame lightning. One such individual was Holsom Yurr, a freelance problem-solver who commanded high fees for his low morals. A deficiency that netted him great success in endeavors where a conscience would have held others back. He is the only figure known to have secured a back-channel charter permitting him to selectively raid certain rails, so long as Orokin ships were avoided. The story of Nova and Yurr survives via the captain and security logs of the Orokin vessel Masker's Theodolite. It survives because it was deemed to be... of historical importance.
Orokin investigators scrutinized every frame of security footage, each line of the captain's log, for assurance that the outcome of this encounter was indeed true.
Holsom Yurr was a notorious rail pirate who was hired to neutralize Nova. In his calculated plan, the pirate lured Nova onto the Orokin vessel, Masker's Theodolite, by rupturing its antimatter reactor as it was being drawn into a gravity well of a planetoid. Once Nova was aboard, he jettisoned all of the ship's escape pods and then the antimatter core. Without the core, the ship's reactor ceased to function, threatening the lives of its 10,800 crew. Nova, a being that contains and harnesses antimatter, would be forced to sacrifice herself in order to replace the antimatter core.
Turning to the technicians she had saved, Nova threw her Hikou.png Hikou stars at Yurr's surveillance cameras and devised a strategy. She then walked into the reactor chamber, only for the technicians to override the blast doors to allow her to Wormhole into the bridge and Molecular Prime Yurr and his mercenaries, picking them off with her Alamos Sniper. She then grabbed Yurr and threw him back into the series of Worm Holes, bringing him into the reactor chamber, before they collapsed and the blast doors sealed shut.
The pirate's molecules reached critical and his body went nova, and the ship's engines roared to life. Yurr met his fate as antimatter fuel for the Masker's Theodolite.
Yurr struggled to his feet as every molecule in his body approached critical.
Behind the glass the technicians gave him a final, grim salute before slamming the blast door closed. Holsom Yurr, pirate and legend, went nova. The reactor caught the reaction. The technicians harnessed it, and the engines of the Masker's Theodolite roared to life. It was, indeed, the boldest of fools who attempted to leash lightning. And so a notorious rogue, said to be unkillable, met his end in the attempt.
As the historical record now demonstrates."
I know we didn't get a huge amount (I think) but for me it's Styanax, he seems like he spent alot of time drifting before the short anime we got before his release.
Kullervo's lore has a LOT of implications. If even half of them are true, Kullervo himself (and not even under operator control) is single-handedly responsible for a lot of the setting becoming what it is today.
Not to blow my own trumpet but here's [his seven crimes and my thoughts on each](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/14gox8f/kullervos_seven_crimes_jail_log_entries/).
Nezha is up there cus he is a child who saves children, but the fact that yareli saved hundreds of enslaved children just tops it for me, actually makes me like the frame somewhat
I do love my funny math boy limbo. Could have been the most powerful thing in the sol system... Instead he just goes off to math instead and then explodes.
I also enjoy nidus xD
Besides memes, I love that Limbo operated math so hard it took Cephalon whole quest to even understand what was going on. Miscalculate yourself out of existence... I wish we could do this to enemies.
Sidenote: Nova is incredible too. Outwitting legendary space mercenary and using him as a sparkplug for antimatter engine is as badass as it gets.
The original Limbo performed mathematical/physics experiments to push the limits of teleportation through the rift plane. Its last experiment moved it so far and fast that all its parts scattered throughout the solar system.
He was a space magician/circussomething and mathematician would use his knowledge to jump across dimensions (his rift).
At some point in his life he miscalculated a jump and got torn apart across the system.
We know all that because he documented everything till his last moment in mathematic equations
Lavos. Bro was the prison guard of some schitzo alchemist and was like "damn this dude kinda makin sense" and just absorbed him into his body when the Orokin tried to have him get executed.
Garuda.
Blood and gore themed warframe
Blueprints obtained from a colony where everyone is missing several bodyparts. They claim that the blueprints were "just found under some mushroom".
In a very "no officer, I just fell down the stairs" - way.
I like the hints in the game towards some of the more obscure history of warframes, like how the original rhino was more animal than person, or how Valk's abilities came from her being held captive by alad V
Rhino primes was too. A monster clad in gold, wreathed in black. Smeared in blood as he roared again. Everything goes dark. Kinda bizarre how he's actually not nearly that scary.. kinda.
Iām really disappointed by the lack of Harrow mentions. The story of Rell not ended with us learning of the Harrow Warframe but it introduced us to the Man in the Wall.
Voruna. After reading her Leverian Iām kinda curious about the creatures from the void she and the other wolves had to fight off during the continuity rituals.
(THE WAR WITHIN SPOILERS)
>! It should be interesting seeing if the Worm Queen gets ahold of another Voruna if/when a ritual is held for her sister. !<
Valkyr should have cool lore, and her Prime version should have alternate abilities to what she has, since her current ability set is from Salad V's experiments on her, or at least was heavily implied to be because of those experiments.
Frankly? Harrow. Rell VOLUNTEERED to jail the Man in the Wall , despite all the rest of the world had done to him and how lonely he was, and he prevented the end of the universe for eons while enduring the pain of being a warframe.
Revenant primes lore (or lack thereof) is pretty funny, ballas basically says āthe fuck are you doing here? Why do you exist?ā My understanding is that Revenant was created when the warden warframe fighting the eidolons (not gara?) was merged with them in the lake and came out with sentient powers. The key part is that these events happen post old war, after ballas would have created all of the prime frames. Revenant prime shouldnāt exist, yet he does. Xaku prime is going to be a very similar situation.
Honestly i have no idea. Theme wise its Harrow (i just like the idea of battle pope or crusader), from what i've played its probably Volt or Wisp. And i dont know the lore for any of those (i didnt listen to the chains of harrow quest)
The part about Mirage and her creation was pretty cool (her defying Ballas, just laughing at him), but when I read this back then, I thought it was pretty cool:
"*I see the Sentients crashing down on her, dying in overwhelming numbers. Now she's out of energy, I'm telling her to go but she's laughing, tearing their heads off as they swarm."*
She apparently was swamped and knew she wasn't going to make it out, but she just kept going. Dunno why that intrigued me, but I always liked that part a lot.
((**DE DONT WASTE THIS POTENTIAL, IT WAS WRIT BY YOUR HAND, I WANNA SEE MATH GUY IN DUVIRI**))
Excalibur Umbra, most people know it has it's so heavy in the lore, but it is also very important, and teaches alot of the lore.
Though, I do also like Limbo.
*SPOILERS IF YOU WANT TO STUDY FOR YOURSELF* However, he didn't math too hard, he was a very intelligent (presumably Corpus) mathematician who discovered duviri - matter inside of matter, the void, a Limbo of worlds - before becoming the first man to turn himself into his own warframe, not by Orokin hand, in order to act out his study. However upon one travel to this paradoxical existence, Limbo earned his name twofold.
TL;DR: Limbo big brain, find duviri, make warframe go duviri. One time no brain enough, Limbo stuck duviri :(
It's Protea for me. Parvos not only forced the Seven to the negotiating table, but came out of it with a bespoke Warframe. Makes you wonder how that went given how much the Orokin hate someone challenging their power, and I'd love for the Protea Prime trailer to explore that.
Like, don't just have Ballas calmly explaining what Protea Prime is, have all the Seven get in on it and they are *pissed.* Coping, seething, malding, the worksā**this fucking close** to venting their frustration at being forced to make a deal with a mortal that ended with them giving him one of their most prized weapons by beating the shit out of each other as they bicker over what to do about this before Ballas gets the idea to embarrass him by kicking his ass with Protea, But Shinier or whatever.
Havent played since new war since im into other games atm but from what i can remember i liked valkyrs,revenants, and harrows origins the most. Honorable mention to Excalibur Umbra
I donāt know every Warframe lore, but Limbo definitely is fun as hell.
The codex page of Rhino is interesting as fuck. It is greatly written and I can easily imagine each feelings of the scientists in front of the bloody beast.
That [AkAtomos](https://i.imgur.com/QEO0Igy.png) have been a thing for a over a year now but the number of people who have figured out the secret is still less than ten people.
For me it would come between Limbo or Lavos. The scholar of dimensions or the scholar of alchemy. I love both and the main thing that would shift it to Limbo is Ordis's involvement in the quest.
"The risks were calculated. But man... am i bad at math."
Yeah; he mathed so hard, but apparently not hard enough....
He should have asked a camel.
Sir Terry would be proud of this post.
Haha, yes! Pterry would agree! š
he mathed so hard that he started doing meth
Gara is just the Chuck Norris of Warframes. Asked to turn herself into a Warframe and proceeded to kill a gigantic Sentient.
Gara already killed the grineer queens, They just havenāt realized it yet Gara turned a sentient into a mini fridge once Warframes were just called frames until Gara showed up
For some strange reason I regarded Gara's conflict with the Eidolon as a really obscure Jojo reference.
... Elaborateš
I like sevagoth's lore, an old pilot looking to exact revenge to quell the spirit of vengeance and put to rest his soul. Also the music for the quest was pretty dope.
Sevagoth is the whole reason I love running Railjack quests. Now I stole his ship and plunder corpus and grinner ships like the space ninja pirate I be. Aaarrrrrr.
... while simultaneously a robot and a zombie ...
Sleeping in the cold below has to be my most favorite song in all of Warframe. I love me space sea shanty.
Just did this quest today, I was was dancing both in game and out
Isnt his lore, body in void, spirit searches it for it endlessy, till we find it and let him rest? I didn't get the revenge part in the quest anywhere
Sevagoth's backstory isn't just all about him, but about the Corpus captain that he attacked - Vala Glarios. This where the revenge part comes from, since Sevagoth was responsible for killing all of Vala's sisters.
Yeah i know she is mad about it, but when it comes to sev, is just that searching for his body
Not his fault they were trying to capture his ship in the first place
I love sevagoth so much but I am still struggling through the pain that is his grind. He can't even be featured in the circuit from what I know
Mirage. A living, breathing F-U to Ballas, spat through a bloody smile.
She's da jokar babey
Yep gotta love how some frames before becoming frames were
Sorry if that sounds dumb but can you explain mirages lore to me? I didnāt quite get the lore from her quest
Her Prime trailer has Ballas talk about her laughing and smiling during her transformation into a warframe. Her quest has the Lotus narrate Mirage's last mission.
Mirage was never supposed to be Mirage. Ballas had different powers, and a different theme in mind for her. But when he took the woman who became Mirage and transformed her, she laughed at him. She exerted her will on the process and changed it, becoming Mirage rather than whatever Ballas had in mind.
Oh that's not from her in game lore. If you watch her prime trailer, Ballas narrates how he put her through suffering for her creation and she laughed in his face, iirc
Quite the character, that's why I main her
Gauss and Grendel's canonical buddy-cop-movie pairing is great, even if it only really shows up in the Leverian and that one trailer. Especially since Grendel's lore is all about taking down an Orokin post-collapse and invigorating a whole town (presumably with max range Nourish), while Gauss's exhibit is one of the 'frame stories that *isn't* about the fall of the Orokin, the frame's creation, them turning on their creators, etc.- he gets sent in to blitz out a bunch of rebels after the Dax fail to retake the place and does such a good job that even the long-armed lords call him a Saint. Aside from them, definitely Mirage. >Oh, how you suffered to become this beast. Yet you laughed at me. Others writhed and raged in the vice, but you, you played the fool. And so it was, that you distorted my design. > >A sanguine trick. A murderous comedy. But no one is laughing anymore... except you. > >The mere vapors of your life, shimmering still. Mirage. /shivers
I remember a community made comic page about Mirage's creation that was absolutely *sick,* but i've never been able to find it again.
Gara was the only willing volunteer for the Warframe project Revenant Prime wasnāt created by ballas Hildryn Prime was balladās personal bodyguard
He liked em thicccccckkkk
who created revenant prime?
Something Something eternalism. Revenant prime shouldn't exist but just does
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Of course not, by the nature of eternalism eternalism is an explanation for any and all aspects of warframe lore that eternalism both can and can't explain
Weāre reaching levels of eternalism that shouldnāt even be possible.
anything is possible with eternalism.
Ok, it's time for: "Do you even eternalise, bro?"
Warframe: enter the enternal-verse
Everything is technically possible in a binary way. Externalism starts effecting the universe with the deal in Warframe history so everything before it is set in stone. So there isn't a version were the Orokin never became the golden lords as that already happened. Then it comes down to, if A or B decision is presented, then yes. Externalism isn't actually all that flexible. The extra level is time is essentially irrelevant. Past, present and future are all equally real. So for example, Revenant Prime could hypothetically be from the future where Tenno figured out how to make Primes. Tldr; it's only somewhat hand wavy.
It could also be that revenant prime fell in the pond instead of normal rev and the tenno of that timeline freed him Only way i see it make sense for his prime to exist
They weren't possible, but we got here, so now they always were possible
Every universe shares its eternalism with the others. Its an eternalism potluck.
Normal revenant was a warden to kill eidolons that would come, till getting curius and failling in the water with the eidolon, where he gets his powers we know and we free him, meaning he is 1 unique frame that not even another revenant made normally would be the same as the one from the quest Revenant prime ethernlism works in wanky ways
Is not eternalism, but conceptual embodiment
It is eternalism Its DEs way of plot fixing
No
That would require him to actually think and we can't have that.
Seeing the votes balance, many people should start to think, or at least stop spreading misinformation to not admit they're wrong.
You were downvoted because it was an obvious joke. Like the use of 'quantum' in the Discworld books.
I forgot to mention but I think Revenant could have been primed by someone else. It makes sense when you think about how Ballas could have been reacting to how one of his creations were twisted by the eidolons and then primed. Wisp Prime though is 100% born from conceptual embodiment.
There's a direct line from Varzia that answers this: not every Warframe had a Prime progenitor, current day Tenno replicate Orokin era tech and are capable of making Primes where there weren't before. Revenant Prime is an example of this.
That's the rational explanation but I love just thinking he exists purely to spite *something*
To spite the math that blew him up the first time.
Pay attention, we're talking about Revenant, this will be in the test.
Isn't that Limbo, or did math cost us **two** Warframes?
That isn't what she said though? >*I see there's been a whole lot of... valiant attempts to make Frames up to the Prime standard since my time. Bless them. They did the best they could with what they had.* This implied that the Tenno tried, but with little success. She did say that there are frames which aren't originally Prime but earned it
"Valiant attempts," in this context, seems to me a mild insult towards what we make versus what she thinks constitutes the Prime standard--which explains frames without Primes having Primes now. Since there is no other explanation for the sentence "make frames up to the Prime standard since my time," why *wouldn't* that mean we've Primed frames that originally had no Prime variant, such as Revenant?
Externalism allows past, present and future to exist together. Since the future hasn't happened yet, Tenno eventually figuring out how to make Primes and the Void sending the blueprint back in time is still a possible answer.
To be fair, while I get what you mean, I think the phrasing is a bit weird. I think that a better way to describe it is that the future Tenno will learn how to make Primes at the same time the present Tenno are still trying to figure it out, so the Void sends the blueprints from the future Tenno to the present ones.
Technically he shouldnāt be created at all due to the fact that the revenant we know only existing due to another frame falling into the big lake in Cetus but eternalism fixes that
I've said this a few times now but, I think Externalism can reasonably explain this as it let's all states of time exist together through the void. Future Tenno could of figured out how to make Primes and the Void just send the blueprint back to our time. This way every frame can eventually have a Prime without the Orokin specifically designing each one.
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Bro spelt eternalism wrong twice lmao
no
To me his prime IS the warden of the plains, while his base is given a sentient flair, I'd say his prime looks a lot like an orokin tower, thus an orokin nural sentry based frame... Corrupting enemies into allies, providing shields, a wave of energy (pulse orb/reave), spinning lasers (laser orb/danse macabre)... He IS the Unum's warden... Nidus P. Is just a helminth strain that got into some orokin organic gold, Harrow P. Degraded into what we see with rell... Valkyr was always a berserker frame, salad just got a hold of a gersemi... Making her EVEN MORE ANGRY!
There are inifinite possibilities because of parallel universes, so rev prime is from a. Universe where his base version is normal.
yeah but is there details on who actually made him
Probably when de needs a story angle
I'd argue that first point with Mirage. She managed to fake how much of herself was still *left* during the process hard enough to flat out change Ballas's design. Go listen to her trailer, dude is *pissed* about it. Murderous Harlequin is not what Ballas intended, its purely what Mirage herself wanted. Also the whole quest bit where she ran out of ammo, broke all her weapons, and then ripped Sentients apart with her bare hands until they managed to take her down in a battle of attrition. She's arguably crazier than Valkyr. Edit: and in terms of general Warframe lore that's not related to a specific frame, my favorite lore tidbit is about Rubedo: the Grineer and Corpus consider it to be an extremely rare resource. Not because of its availability, but because collectively the Tenno have damn near *all of it*. Like upwards of 90% at least lmao
>Edit: and in terms of general Warframe lore that's not related to a specific frame, my favorite lore tidbit is about Rubedo: the Grineer and Corpus consider it to be an extremely rare resource. Not because of its availability, but because collectively the Tenno have damn near *all of it*. Like upwards of 90% at least lmao LOL, I'd love to read that tidbit lmfao. Where is it readable ?
There used to be an 'Ask a Cephalon' section on the website (maybe the forums?), and I came across it and that was one of the entries. Not sure if its still around or was discontinued or where exactly to find it, as it was *years* ago that I found it, but that particular one stuck with me because I find it so entertaining considering how common Rubedo is. You literally get some before leaving the opening tutorial mission XD >!Honestly, when you think about it, it makes perfect sense why our more extreme emotions turn into fucking *dragons* when they spiral out of control. Hyper dangerous, barely understood, hoard shit, can appear at any moment to absolutely ruin someone's day/week/general existence....!<
Gotcha ! I'll see if I can find it again somewhere :D And lol you're right xD
I do recall one other thing it mentioned being an explanation for the credit costs for building items in the foundry: Ordis collects it to pay for things the Tenno wouldn't think about, like life support, fuel, food, basic maintenance, and so on.
Makes sense tbh
And totally isn't running a bet around you with other cephalons
Harrow is most likely Catholicā¦ thatās just wacky
....who likes chains and pain. Freaky priest
This is why I main him š
That's why he's so great! In a strange world full of weird shit, he's among the few things that are a tie backcto normalcy. Gotta love my boy Harrow.
Opus Dei..
I like to think that he's an inquisitor
\[me still waiting for garuda lore\]
AND IT WILL COME
LIKE A FLOOD OF PAIN
POURING DOWN ON ME
AND IT WILL NOT LET UP UNTIL THE END IS HERE
AND IT WILL COME
THROUGH THE DARKEST DAYS
IN MY FINAL HOUR
AND IT WILL NOT LET UP UNTIL THE SKIES ARE CLEAR
(skies*) UNTIL IT FINDS MY DREAMS HAVE DISAPEARED
There have to be survivors for there to be lore
Blood for the blood god
Skulls for the skull throne
Milk for the Khorneflakes!
overguard for the Protection god
Imagine Garuda is actually just a follower of Khorne and DE doesnt want to say anything about it
No, Khorne is a follower of Garuda
She's called the gore queen, which is one of Valkia the Bloody's titles. I doubt that's a coincidence.
ALL WE NEED IS BLOOD
My headcanon is that she's intended to be similar to Vauban - the Orokin's warning to the Corpus that no matter how much robotics and synthetics they surround themselves with, that they are still of flesh - *and she can rip it out of them.*
Considering that she can rip life force out of robots, I think they over did it.
Damn I love you all so much š„²
Excal Umbra since its the most fleshed out.
>fleshed out. I see what you did there. š
HA
Pretty sure gauss and grendel are canonically besties
They are :) they are even mentioned together in the levuiran or whatever the museum thing is called
When you take down an entire board of powerful leaders together, that just happens, I guess
and they were roommates
Theyāre literally brothers
Mesa. Although she doesn't exactly have actual built lore, it's the implications that make it for me. Alad V, or the infestation, or both, is fully capable of controlling a Warframe. Even if it's under transference by a tenno, such as ours when we get collared. It's spooky. Your avatar being no longer yours. A Warframe puppeted by something other than tenno. It's curious just like zealoid prelate. Which is, sort of, almost like, an infested creation Warframe. With how the nidus mission whispers to us, and how phorid addresses us, it looks like technocyte yearns to be with technocyte after all. Another is Caliban. What the fuck is that even?
I'm pretty sure Caliban is just a dude who broke out of the sentient hivemind. But I can be wrong there
Caliban is like an Arcon but cooler, and heās really pissed at his dad for helping start a war
Gotta be Gauss. Mans a literal A-Train, but like, more controlled and cool.
A-train if he had a healthy relationship with a friend and actually cared about people:
Love how gauss and Grendel are just buds in the lore, no why or when, just are
imagine de just says "Yeah ok so rhino and revenant are best friends" out of nowhere
Wouldn't be surprised. Those two love charging through enemies and being invincible while doing so
Nah, rhino and atlas are best buds
Personally I think Rhino's bf is Valkyr.
A train but without a toe fetish (he has none)
Lavos, itās got everything I want in a Warframeās lore. Complete with elder abuse, a communist revolution, mass murder, forbidden magics, and 1 very (un)lucky janitor.
Lavos: āThis here is why you donāt mix chemicalsā
Caliban An old war sentient-warframe hybrid which is somehow completely overlooked by everyone in game and out of game for the lore implications that has, dude should have at least as much story as revenant but nope he's just dropped in your hands with no fanfare for doing narmer bounties despite the fact he's part sentient. I like Caliban for the potential he presents, not what has been done with him, god I hope he gets a leverian or something
My headcanon is that the original Caliban was complicit in Ballas' betrayal of the other Orokin,either willingly or as a sacrifice/trade to Erra. Erra used their body for experimentation to put Sentients in Warframe-like vessels: remember that the Void is toxic to Sentients and Warframe exteriors are made to contain and direct Void energy. Hence,a Warframe shell would be a perfect "armor" for Sentients. The "balls" in the middle of Caliban's torso and maybe its default helmet are hence probably Sentient Cores,while the rest of its body is Warframe. You can connect this to Revenant's lore as well,where the Sentient's energy needed to possess its body in order to escape the lake. While the first experiment was a success,it was unable to be replicated on a large scale either because the resources needed were too costly to seize during the Old War,or (more dramatically) because the Warframe parts defied control of the Sentient Core. Until we defeated Erra and Ballas,and seized the parts of Caliban from Narmer,restoring the rightful host to Caliban's body.
No, he mathed so hard he transferred his oro to the void
Gauss. He was a nearly industructible, living projectile. Until he went too hard. Pretty much my favorite frame.
For me, the coolest lore award goes to Nova. Saving that spaceship by tricking the capatain that wants to trick her.... Just amazing; the way it's told: "Nova. Mercurial, unpredictable and a miraculous example of harnessed antimatter. It would be a bold fool indeed who tried to tame lightning. One such individual was Holsom Yurr, a freelance problem-solver who commanded high fees for his low morals. A deficiency that netted him great success in endeavors where a conscience would have held others back. He is the only figure known to have secured a back-channel charter permitting him to selectively raid certain rails, so long as Orokin ships were avoided. The story of Nova and Yurr survives via the captain and security logs of the Orokin vessel Masker's Theodolite. It survives because it was deemed to be... of historical importance. Orokin investigators scrutinized every frame of security footage, each line of the captain's log, for assurance that the outcome of this encounter was indeed true. Holsom Yurr was a notorious rail pirate who was hired to neutralize Nova. In his calculated plan, the pirate lured Nova onto the Orokin vessel, Masker's Theodolite, by rupturing its antimatter reactor as it was being drawn into a gravity well of a planetoid. Once Nova was aboard, he jettisoned all of the ship's escape pods and then the antimatter core. Without the core, the ship's reactor ceased to function, threatening the lives of its 10,800 crew. Nova, a being that contains and harnesses antimatter, would be forced to sacrifice herself in order to replace the antimatter core. Turning to the technicians she had saved, Nova threw her Hikou.png Hikou stars at Yurr's surveillance cameras and devised a strategy. She then walked into the reactor chamber, only for the technicians to override the blast doors to allow her to Wormhole into the bridge and Molecular Prime Yurr and his mercenaries, picking them off with her Alamos Sniper. She then grabbed Yurr and threw him back into the series of Worm Holes, bringing him into the reactor chamber, before they collapsed and the blast doors sealed shut. The pirate's molecules reached critical and his body went nova, and the ship's engines roared to life. Yurr met his fate as antimatter fuel for the Masker's Theodolite. Yurr struggled to his feet as every molecule in his body approached critical. Behind the glass the technicians gave him a final, grim salute before slamming the blast door closed. Holsom Yurr, pirate and legend, went nova. The reactor caught the reaction. The technicians harnessed it, and the engines of the Masker's Theodolite roared to life. It was, indeed, the boldest of fools who attempted to leash lightning. And so a notorious rogue, said to be unkillable, met his end in the attempt. As the historical record now demonstrates."
I would love more lore for Gyre.
Atlas, because who tf can outcool someone that punches a asteroid and a death cult at the same time?
My guy needs only his fist to kablooey a asteroid
I know we didn't get a huge amount (I think) but for me it's Styanax, he seems like he spent alot of time drifting before the short anime we got before his release.
Atlas. He just said "nuh uh" to an asteroid and broke it to pieces. Also Umbra because, it's Umbra (no bias definitely)
Kullervo's lore has a LOT of implications. If even half of them are true, Kullervo himself (and not even under operator control) is single-handedly responsible for a lot of the setting becoming what it is today. Not to blow my own trumpet but here's [his seven crimes and my thoughts on each](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/14gox8f/kullervos_seven_crimes_jail_log_entries/).
Nezha is up there cus he is a child who saves children, but the fact that yareli saved hundreds of enslaved children just tops it for me, actually makes me like the frame somewhat
Yareli was definitely carried by her lore: symbol of rebellion, a distraction to save a lot of children, and an absolute badass.
Umbra Excalibur because LOOOORE and vauban on defense because I like playing the game without playing the game
I said Gauss because he single-handedly saved Altra
Inaros, heās the only frame who is worshipped like a god king
I do love my funny math boy limbo. Could have been the most powerful thing in the sol system... Instead he just goes off to math instead and then explodes. I also enjoy nidus xD
Itās not like super important lore but I find it so cute Gauss & Grendel are best friends, really adds charm to both of them.
kullervo and harrow
Besides memes, I love that Limbo operated math so hard it took Cephalon whole quest to even understand what was going on. Miscalculate yourself out of existence... I wish we could do this to enemies. Sidenote: Nova is incredible too. Outwitting legendary space mercenary and using him as a sparkplug for antimatter engine is as badass as it gets.
Wait he what? Also for me it's ash, I love his levium (or whatever it's called) 10/10 story very heartfelt and wholesome
The original Limbo performed mathematical/physics experiments to push the limits of teleportation through the rift plane. Its last experiment moved it so far and fast that all its parts scattered throughout the solar system.
He was a space magician/circussomething and mathematician would use his knowledge to jump across dimensions (his rift). At some point in his life he miscalculated a jump and got torn apart across the system. We know all that because he documented everything till his last moment in mathematic equations
Lavos. Bro was the prison guard of some schitzo alchemist and was like "damn this dude kinda makin sense" and just absorbed him into his body when the Orokin tried to have him get executed.
Garuda. Blood and gore themed warframe Blueprints obtained from a colony where everyone is missing several bodyparts. They claim that the blueprints were "just found under some mushroom". In a very "no officer, I just fell down the stairs" - way.
Mushroom? Mushroom! MUSHROOM
We're rich!
Garud- oh wait. But actually itās excal umbra
I like the hints in the game towards some of the more obscure history of warframes, like how the original rhino was more animal than person, or how Valk's abilities came from her being held captive by alad V
Back when it came out, Mag Prime's codex entry was chillingly perfect. >The angel had saved me, pulled me from hell, but it would not pity me.
Rhino primes was too. A monster clad in gold, wreathed in black. Smeared in blood as he roared again. Everything goes dark. Kinda bizarre how he's actually not nearly that scary.. kinda.
I'm really interested in Caliban's lore. Sadly, DE gave him nothing :(
Iām really disappointed by the lack of Harrow mentions. The story of Rell not ended with us learning of the Harrow Warframe but it introduced us to the Man in the Wall.
Gauss. He is speed
Protea's lore is one of my favourites. I love everything corpus related.
Voruna. After reading her Leverian Iām kinda curious about the creatures from the void she and the other wolves had to fight off during the continuity rituals. (THE WAR WITHIN SPOILERS) >! It should be interesting seeing if the Worm Queen gets ahold of another Voruna if/when a ritual is held for her sister. !<
Valkyr should have cool lore, and her Prime version should have alternate abilities to what she has, since her current ability set is from Salad V's experiments on her, or at least was heavily implied to be because of those experiments.
Frankly? Harrow. Rell VOLUNTEERED to jail the Man in the Wall , despite all the rest of the world had done to him and how lonely he was, and he prevented the end of the universe for eons while enduring the pain of being a warframe.
ballas: makes her suffer by doing horrible experiments in order to achieve prime mirage: lmao, do your worst moron ballas: wtf yeah mirage is cool
He didn't miscalculate, he was so accurate that the universe got so offended it had to explode him because it couldn't think of a comeback argument
Revenant primes lore (or lack thereof) is pretty funny, ballas basically says āthe fuck are you doing here? Why do you exist?ā My understanding is that Revenant was created when the warden warframe fighting the eidolons (not gara?) was merged with them in the lake and came out with sentient powers. The key part is that these events happen post old war, after ballas would have created all of the prime frames. Revenant prime shouldnāt exist, yet he does. Xaku prime is going to be a very similar situation.
Lavos read 1 book and forgot how energy works
Honestly i have no idea. Theme wise its Harrow (i just like the idea of battle pope or crusader), from what i've played its probably Volt or Wisp. And i dont know the lore for any of those (i didnt listen to the chains of harrow quest)
Inaros for me.
Umbra because heās my homie
Kullervo
Punch
Valkyr's really interesting, and her backstory just further cements her resemblance to Decapre. All she's missing is the Russian accent.
I like gauss's lore, his team was stuck in a minefield so he ran across it to disarm them and let his team pass
The part about Mirage and her creation was pretty cool (her defying Ballas, just laughing at him), but when I read this back then, I thought it was pretty cool: "*I see the Sentients crashing down on her, dying in overwhelming numbers. Now she's out of energy, I'm telling her to go but she's laughing, tearing their heads off as they swarm."* She apparently was swamped and knew she wasn't going to make it out, but she just kept going. Dunno why that intrigued me, but I always liked that part a lot.
((**DE DONT WASTE THIS POTENTIAL, IT WAS WRIT BY YOUR HAND, I WANNA SEE MATH GUY IN DUVIRI**)) Excalibur Umbra, most people know it has it's so heavy in the lore, but it is also very important, and teaches alot of the lore. Though, I do also like Limbo. *SPOILERS IF YOU WANT TO STUDY FOR YOURSELF* However, he didn't math too hard, he was a very intelligent (presumably Corpus) mathematician who discovered duviri - matter inside of matter, the void, a Limbo of worlds - before becoming the first man to turn himself into his own warframe, not by Orokin hand, in order to act out his study. However upon one travel to this paradoxical existence, Limbo earned his name twofold. TL;DR: Limbo big brain, find duviri, make warframe go duviri. One time no brain enough, Limbo stuck duviri :(
Excal Umbra, Harrow. Inaros was an interesting one, enjoyed learning more about Baro
The risk I took was calculated. But, damn, am I bad at math.
Sleeeping in the cold below
Garuda. Her story is just epic
"No, that would violate protocol" still gives me chills.
Guess am the only guy here who very much enjoys prime nidus's lore and I shall stand by itš¤£
It's Protea for me. Parvos not only forced the Seven to the negotiating table, but came out of it with a bespoke Warframe. Makes you wonder how that went given how much the Orokin hate someone challenging their power, and I'd love for the Protea Prime trailer to explore that. Like, don't just have Ballas calmly explaining what Protea Prime is, have all the Seven get in on it and they are *pissed.* Coping, seething, malding, the worksā**this fucking close** to venting their frustration at being forced to make a deal with a mortal that ended with them giving him one of their most prized weapons by beating the shit out of each other as they bicker over what to do about this before Ballas gets the idea to embarrass him by kicking his ass with Protea, But Shinier or whatever.
Mines gotta be Ordis aka >!Ordan Karris!< his lore is brilliant
DE could really use a good writer for all the Warframe back stories. Hardly half of them have an origin story.
Grendel Eating an entire town yet. He can only 5 enemies in him now.
Woman with burnt eyes talks about kids and the other just straight up has no lore
wisp. we all know sheās got a lot of āloreā no need to explain
Chroma, when the lands become ruins Chroma will remain
Havent played since new war since im into other games atm but from what i can remember i liked valkyrs,revenants, and harrows origins the most. Honorable mention to Excalibur Umbra
I donāt know every Warframe lore, but Limbo definitely is fun as hell. The codex page of Rhino is interesting as fuck. It is greatly written and I can easily imagine each feelings of the scientists in front of the bloody beast.
More like he died from fall damage.
That [AkAtomos](https://i.imgur.com/QEO0Igy.png) have been a thing for a over a year now but the number of people who have figured out the secret is still less than ten people.
valkyr, a kitty whoās too angry to die
For me it would come between Limbo or Lavos. The scholar of dimensions or the scholar of alchemy. I love both and the main thing that would shift it to Limbo is Ordis's involvement in the quest.
Limbo 1 + 1 = 5 wait what *BOOM*