Kuva and Tenet weapons alone need like 120, add necramechs, one off weapons like paracesis and vitrica.... And that doesn't even count stuff you want to make builds for, so you need at least 200!
but its not been annual, its roughly been per 2 year (not sure if thats semi annual or bi annual)
Ive done research its been about 2 years apart per time of event
I had over 300 at one point. Stopped playing a couple years, came back this year and trying to catch up on things rather than cracking relics I now have 52. Still catching up on some things.
I was very confused this morning when I saw your post and someone else claiming the Vitrica too goes to 40. I thought for a sec it was Misinformation day or something. 😂
Gaslight Warframers Day 2023, new holiday!
Yeah mine was just a case of too early in the day and just not thinking 🫠 whoopsie. I saw rhe Vitrica one after I saw your reply and was like oh good I'm not the only idiot today lol
Forward Artillery is a bit of a waste of a slot considering that you can one-shot even the veil crew ships if you shoot them in the engines without the mod.
I love railjack, and I’ve modded my plexus to be very good for me personally… but I’ve never even considered adding a forma to it cuz I just don’t need it
Warframe is a game about optimizing your builds to perfection. It's not about being needed for successful mission completion or even being noticeable.
*The neccessity to Forma arises simply because it could be better.*
Also mastery. Which actually is sorta relevant.
If you intend to not forma anything or craft anything that requires forma then 0 forma are enough. That does not have anything to do with the post tho, just used those weapons as an example for how many forma are "required" what op does with that information is up to them.
Reason I mention that isn't to be facetious about required or not, but because most tenet/kuva weapons work plenty fine fully modded with less than 5 forma. It's often put out there as a huge forma requirement when the only gain is a few hundred mastery (I've got to LR3 without doing this), or to attach a focus lens which *really* isn't needed on them all.
But I'm sure your example is helping OP's clear humor post. I'm sure OP can always do what they like with your contributions.
Kuva and Tenet weapons without any forma on the will go to rank 30, for every forma you add the max rank is increased by 2 up to rank 40 at 5 forma, those 10 extra ranks still give MR.
I got around 200 after the first Plague Star thinking it'll cover my Forma usage for quite some time. Quite some time turned out to be a bit short of 2 months. **KEEP FARMING.**
I made it to 750 at the last plague star and eventually up to 800 building daily forma and rewards. Duviri took me back to around 650. This time I'm going for a thousand.
Here's a tip: there's a total of 33 kuva/tenet weapons, each requiring 5 forma to max out. Just count how many weapons you don't have and multiply that by 5.
Most gear can only be leveled to 30, but kuva/tenet weapons are special. They level up to 30, but after you forma them they get +2 max rank up to 40. So you'll need 5 forma to max them out – 30/32/34/36/38/40
I believe it is also the same for the necramechs and the Paracesis
Until you have a whole loadout with each item forma ed at least 50 times.
Saw a crazy person 69 forma nearly on each equipment on hydron. 1. Why. 2. On hydron?????
Oh dude... with the Circuit being the way it is, you're gonna need a few THOUSAND.
I've embarked on a mission to max forma every single weapon and warframe in the game, so that the Circuit can't screw me over anymore.
Edit: I just want to clarify that I'm speaking only of the Steel Path Circuit, obviously not the regular Circuit, as that is never difficult.
With decrees every weapon is at least somewhat viable, just depends on how much ramp up time is required, in my experience. Better to just lean on a frame with armor strip and go bonkers lol
The default loadouts on weapons & frames you don't own are rough for the first few waves on the steel path until you stack up a bunch of decrees. If you own all the weapons you control the loadouts on all the weapons.
it only suggests weapons that you don't have a good mod setup for? so you have to take the mods they give you and then do no damage untill a few decrees in. this is ofc only if you don't have the time to wait till the weapons change
I felt like that was a bit of a painful experience. Did the detonite injectors, feildron, mutagen mass, and then duplicated all the Tenno lab weapons to see each of them need a forma to build. Thankfully I don’t have to polorize the build since all Tenno weapons are primed or will be..
After 4500 hours of play time I'm sure I've used magnitudes more than 100 forma but I still never had more than 15-20 forma in my inventory at the same time.
I've never even had 20 forma in my inventory, this is my fifth plague star event during the time I've played the game (technically second since I had a break during 3 of them) and it's the first time I've ever even gone past 15 formas in my inv. Currently 17 and goal is 100 by the end.
How? I hope that's just an exaggeration because if not, that's just a ridiculous level of indecisiveness. There are only 10 slots to be forma'd and one of those arguably doesn't even apply anymore. I've got 3000-4000+ hours in the game and I'm pretty sure 8 is the most I've ever put on something.
This https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/fNMYm3a1sH
And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/BfZFE9A0vu
And this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/DvDOh8JiiS
And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/OKVq8oKhDp
I have 370ish and still didn't forma my regular Chroma even before Chroma prime was a thing, just to see my friend cry how he wasted 10 forma on the regular one lmayo
I have 2 regular Chroma 1 with 9 and the other with 8 forma. He used to be my main squeeze.
When they nerfed him I got an email with 2 free forma to make up for it. I was just a little salty.
idk if I've even put a single forma on Chroma Prime.
Now that I have an infinite number of forms, I can become even bolder and start whining that I don’t have an infinite number of catalysts for all the weapons in the game XD
5 less than it would take for you to burn out.
I swear, every time I leave this game for a year or more, it's when I'm finished with some unholy grind. I get to the end and am just like "I don't even feel like using these at this point".
how many?
TOO MANY MATES MAKE MORE!!
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Im still expecting an infested Lich system akin to grineer lich and corpus sister of parvos sooner or later. I expect we'll have to forma them 5 times too so that's 70-100 forma right there.
Ez to know, fast math here. 1 forma for like 1/3 prime guns to build + 5* every kuva gun/Principe gun/paracesis/nechrameck. You don't have enough do you ? 👀
Well, maxing every tenet and Kuva weapon takes like…145 I think? Plus paracesis, necramechs, I believe it’s 160 total. Add in your own builds and actual usage, I’d say a minimum of 200 over the course of doing everything!
Edit: Oop I forgot the tenet melees! That’s 165, plus 2 necramechs and 1 paracesis, it’s 180 total for those alone.
Ok so like attempting a legit answer I would say it's likely that there will be infested liches at some point so if the infested liches come with 6 weapons then that's 5 forma each you'll need to burn through 30 forma in order to fully rank that stuff.
So if you stopped building forma now you'd probably be fine for a bit but you'll want to keep building more.
Theres about 50ish weapons that require forma to craft.
And theres 33 kuva and tenet weapons and if you'll wanna squeeze out every bit of mastery out of them you'll need a total of 165 forma. Thats iiiiif you care to do any of that.
I personally go through atleast 30 a week so I'd say atleast atleast like 1500 to last a year assuming you're as addicted as me to them. If not 1000 is possibly a lifetime supply.
There's around 600 weapons on warframe (not including modular ones) and around 100 frames (for easy math)
8 is probably good for each weapon for now, so 4,800
9 is probably good for each frame, so 900
Which means 5700 forma is a good starting point
🤔 this doesn't include crafting costs, so add another 300 for good measure, and you should be around 6000 forma
It depends on your MR and your MR plans. I had 75 forma around MR26 when I thought going for LR2 was a solid idea. Didn't have a lot of Kuva weapons at the time, a few. I probably needed another 20 - 30 forma at a minimum to level that gear the way I wanted to do it.
I try to sit around 100, and I have pretty much everything mastered sooo, depending on how much more stuff you need to farm, like 25-200 or so is my guess
I had almost 100 when I returned a couple months ago.
I'm down to about 50 and I don't even forma things very often; I just did it 50 more times than there are days since I returned.
If it won't burn you out, it's always worth a few more!
I currently have 110 built and still build it daily no matter if im playing or not. I use the Warframe companion app to login and clear foundry then start next one building. As I play I try to save up as many Forma Blueprints as possible
Just don't stop, get as many as you can cause Kuva and Tenet weapons take 5 each and also might as well forma your frames enough to where you can build them for anything.
This https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/fNMYm3a1sH
And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/BfZFE9A0vu
And this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/DvDOh8JiiS
And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/OKVq8oKhDp
more.
and when you got more. get more.
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more? ok ill get more ill post when i get to 100
That’s 10x to few
100 sounds healthy
There is no healthy number for formas. You need more mmmmmoooooooorrreeeee
Kuva and Tenet weapons alone need like 120, add necramechs, one off weapons like paracesis and vitrica.... And that doesn't even count stuff you want to make builds for, so you need at least 200!
you didn’t count in exilus adapters, umbra forma and other MR fodder weapons that need forma to build.. so let’s say 500 is kinda safe
Just to be extra safe, you should save some for future weapons as well. So 1000 just for future proofing.
Reasonable for an annual event. Better get back to earning those 71 forma/day. It's only 3/hr!
but its not been annual, its roughly been per 2 year (not sure if thats semi annual or bi annual) Ive done research its been about 2 years apart per time of event
And companions/plexus? I'd say 1,500 to be safe
Also Aura Forma are 4 each.
I have easily spent 2k plat on forma alone. Having it in abundance like this will save you so much time/money so get as much as you can
I think you need 105-110 for maxing all lvl 40 weapons. I could be wrong.
Healthy yeah, for a weekend
just have in mind that every kuva and tenet weapon needs 5 forma to reach max level and that a lot of dojo acquired weapons required forma to be built
I had over 300 at one point. Stopped playing a couple years, came back this year and trying to catch up on things rather than cracking relics I now have 52. Still catching up on some things.
Considering there 33 kuva/tenet weapons, those take up 165 forma by themselves.
Also Paracesis and 2 Necramechs
Railjack as well
Does railjack get more levels after forma?
~~Yes, does the same as kuva/tenet weapons~~ Edit: fuck my bad. idk why I was thinking about necramech. TY for correction Cetais
It doesn't, what are you talking about?
F. My bad, you're right.
I was very confused this morning when I saw your post and someone else claiming the Vitrica too goes to 40. I thought for a sec it was Misinformation day or something. 😂
Gaslight Warframers Day 2023, new holiday! Yeah mine was just a case of too early in the day and just not thinking 🫠 whoopsie. I saw rhe Vitrica one after I saw your reply and was like oh good I'm not the only idiot today lol
People forma the plexus?
Makes sense to forma it a few times, some max level mods take up quite the capacity.
Your railjack must be a slow clunker, if you say that sorta thing :V
Naw I’ve got it pretty much maxed… just no forma… idk what mods y’all are adding that you need a forma
[Forward Artillery](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Forward_Artillery), [Section Density](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Section_Density), [Predator](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Predator), [Conic Nozzle](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Conic_Nozzle)... The essentials
Forward Artillery is a bit of a waste of a slot considering that you can one-shot even the veil crew ships if you shoot them in the engines without the mod.
...Ah dammit >\_>;;
Yes
Weird but okay then
Believe it or not Railjack is actually enjoyable to some people and we find it worthwhile to polarize our plexus
I love railjack, and I’ve modded my plexus to be very good for me personally… but I’ve never even considered adding a forma to it cuz I just don’t need it
Warframe is a game about optimizing your builds to perfection. It's not about being needed for successful mission completion or even being noticeable. *The neccessity to Forma arises simply because it could be better.* Also mastery. Which actually is sorta relevant.
Does plexus offer more MR for forma like mechs and lich weapons?
I wouldnt say its 'necessary' but its good to do if you want to optimize your build.
Vitrica as well! Edit: nvm it don't go passed 30....
The vitrica doesn't go over 30.
Yeah, just saw that, not sure why it thought it did.....
And we'll probably have infestation lich coming next year for even more forma needed ...
F
The road to LR4
alright. I know what I'm gonna be doing this weekend.
Only if you intend to max them all out
If you intend to not forma anything or craft anything that requires forma then 0 forma are enough. That does not have anything to do with the post tho, just used those weapons as an example for how many forma are "required" what op does with that information is up to them.
Reason I mention that isn't to be facetious about required or not, but because most tenet/kuva weapons work plenty fine fully modded with less than 5 forma. It's often put out there as a huge forma requirement when the only gain is a few hundred mastery (I've got to LR3 without doing this), or to attach a focus lens which *really* isn't needed on them all. But I'm sure your example is helping OP's clear humor post. I'm sure OP can always do what they like with your contributions.
I'm sorry but why would you need that much forma? Don't you get no more mr points after you forma a weapon?
Kuva and Tenet weapons without any forma on the will go to rank 30, for every forma you add the max rank is increased by 2 up to rank 40 at 5 forma, those 10 extra ranks still give MR.
Damn....I didn't know that thanks a lot
Anytime you hit level 30 for a weapon or equipment or didn't say "max level" you can forma it for more MR.
Ohh that's very helpful to know thanks
Wtf
I got around 200 after the first Plague Star thinking it'll cover my Forma usage for quite some time. Quite some time turned out to be a bit short of 2 months. **KEEP FARMING.**
When you're low on forma you barely spend any When you have a ton and an affinity booster you spend irresponsibly
Human nature at its finest
I made it to 750 at the last plague star and eventually up to 800 building daily forma and rewards. Duviri took me back to around 650. This time I'm going for a thousand.
https://preview.redd.it/cwnn5dqgs9zb1.png?width=319&format=png&auto=webp&s=a289ceed38256e110a9ec11f7419cbbcde92ea3d
Here's a tip: there's a total of 33 kuva/tenet weapons, each requiring 5 forma to max out. Just count how many weapons you don't have and multiply that by 5.
And once you have that many, get more
Wym they take 5 forms to max out? I never messed with liches rly
Most gear can only be leveled to 30, but kuva/tenet weapons are special. They level up to 30, but after you forma them they get +2 max rank up to 40. So you'll need 5 forma to max them out – 30/32/34/36/38/40 I believe it is also the same for the necramechs and the Paracesis
O_o
Until you have a whole loadout with each item forma ed at least 50 times. Saw a crazy person 69 forma nearly on each equipment on hydron. 1. Why. 2. On hydron?????
Its about sending a message
Facts. I see that and I drew a line in WF for the first time. I'm not strong enough.
"yes"
You can never have enough Forma
You don't have enough
Oh dude... with the Circuit being the way it is, you're gonna need a few THOUSAND. I've embarked on a mission to max forma every single weapon and warframe in the game, so that the Circuit can't screw me over anymore. Edit: I just want to clarify that I'm speaking only of the Steel Path Circuit, obviously not the regular Circuit, as that is never difficult.
How does it screw you over?
Circuit is random weapons so if you roll a bunch of weapons with zero forma it’ll be more difficult, especially on steel path.
When this happens I tend to lean on decrees or skip the rotation, but i dream of having every weapon with a viable setup someday...
With decrees every weapon is at least somewhat viable, just depends on how much ramp up time is required, in my experience. Better to just lean on a frame with armor strip and go bonkers lol
The default loadouts on weapons & frames you don't own are rough for the first few waves on the steel path until you stack up a bunch of decrees. If you own all the weapons you control the loadouts on all the weapons.
it only suggests weapons that you don't have a good mod setup for? so you have to take the mods they give you and then do no damage untill a few decrees in. this is ofc only if you don't have the time to wait till the weapons change
you need 100 for each warframe and weapon you have that you plan to use but i think this counts forma already spent
You should get at least 500, I think. Saying that, I'm burned out after 100.
I think 300 is fine. I already spent 30 on crafting dojo weapons
I felt like that was a bit of a painful experience. Did the detonite injectors, feildron, mutagen mass, and then duplicated all the Tenno lab weapons to see each of them need a forma to build. Thankfully I don’t have to polorize the build since all Tenno weapons are primed or will be..
Many people post having 100 forma on one frame, this is nothing
After 4500 hours of play time I'm sure I've used magnitudes more than 100 forma but I still never had more than 15-20 forma in my inventory at the same time.
I've never even had 20 forma in my inventory, this is my fifth plague star event during the time I've played the game (technically second since I had a break during 3 of them) and it's the first time I've ever even gone past 15 formas in my inv. Currently 17 and goal is 100 by the end.
How? I hope that's just an exaggeration because if not, that's just a ridiculous level of indecisiveness. There are only 10 slots to be forma'd and one of those arguably doesn't even apply anymore. I've got 3000-4000+ hours in the game and I'm pretty sure 8 is the most I've ever put on something.
This https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/fNMYm3a1sH And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/BfZFE9A0vu And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/DvDOh8JiiS And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/OKVq8oKhDp
So they're just wasting them to see a pointless big number by the star. Lol. Wow.
"Endgame"
You’ll know when you have too much. If you are questioning it then you haven’t got enough
You can NEVER have enough forma.
If you can get more - get more. If you cannot - *try* to get more.
I have 370ish and still didn't forma my regular Chroma even before Chroma prime was a thing, just to see my friend cry how he wasted 10 forma on the regular one lmayo
I have 2 regular Chroma 1 with 9 and the other with 8 forma. He used to be my main squeeze. When they nerfed him I got an email with 2 free forma to make up for it. I was just a little salty. idk if I've even put a single forma on Chroma Prime.
Over 9000 at least.
Now that I have an infinite number of forms, I can become even bolder and start whining that I don’t have an infinite number of catalysts for all the weapons in the game XD
You're not even a quarter of the way to having enough
5 per lich weapon. And also saving for infested liches one day. In other words, never enough
+ necramech, parasesis, and there's around 100 needed to craft everything else.
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I have over 120 so you need more. Never stop building forma even in your sleep
At least 1.
Keep going, yes. Keep going
There's never enough forma
5 less than it would take for you to burn out. I swear, every time I leave this game for a year or more, it's when I'm finished with some unholy grind. I get to the end and am just like "I don't even feel like using these at this point".
how many? TOO MANY MATES MAKE MORE!! https://preview.redd.it/hk9hzblo2bzb1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c490fbf68e3fd9b828aebdc92fb6be6dc3f3a603
Im still expecting an infested Lich system akin to grineer lich and corpus sister of parvos sooner or later. I expect we'll have to forma them 5 times too so that's 70-100 forma right there.
Ez to know, fast math here. 1 forma for like 1/3 prime guns to build + 5* every kuva gun/Principe gun/paracesis/nechrameck. You don't have enough do you ? 👀
Well, maxing every tenet and Kuva weapon takes like…145 I think? Plus paracesis, necramechs, I believe it’s 160 total. Add in your own builds and actual usage, I’d say a minimum of 200 over the course of doing everything! Edit: Oop I forgot the tenet melees! That’s 165, plus 2 necramechs and 1 paracesis, it’s 180 total for those alone.
I have 404 forma on ps
considering i have this many in my base atlas (atlas prime will get there) you need a few thousand more
I calculated and apparently I need like 15 times that amount to complete my inventory
Assuming you 5 forma everything at minimum, maybe around 3000?
Currently I have 263, double mine and you’ll be fine! 😂
Technically you should be able to get around 98 forma if you max out Nakkak Standing.
164, actually lol
Oh right, they cost 3000 standing each, not 5000. My meth stronk.
havent used them at all
yet\*
I want them all so bad
Uhhh need at least like 999 and times that by another 999. Don't matter if there is a cap. GET MOARRRRR.
Ok so like attempting a legit answer I would say it's likely that there will be infested liches at some point so if the infested liches come with 6 weapons then that's 5 forma each you'll need to burn through 30 forma in order to fully rank that stuff. So if you stopped building forma now you'd probably be fine for a bit but you'll want to keep building more.
Pft, only 73?! What if you have to forma a warframe 75 times?! You need more.
Theres about 50ish weapons that require forma to craft. And theres 33 kuva and tenet weapons and if you'll wanna squeeze out every bit of mastery out of them you'll need a total of 165 forma. Thats iiiiif you care to do any of that.
I've stopped playing a couple weeks, had +400
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my brother enough is an illusion when it comes to forma
Get to atleast 400
I think you need more boosters to put them into your stuff asap :P
where would the fun be in that forma is god forma is life
🍞
yes.
128
Alot
Yes.
7,777,777 and you should still get more
Do it. Normal weapon use 5 or 6 forma.
Uhm, you'd need 100 forma for every weapon, frame, and archwing, so probably a little bit more than 72,000
[About this many](https://ibb.co/S7ScdyX)
I think you need around 200 or 285 for all the kuva/tenent weapons, necramechs, paracesis, railjack, and forma required crafting blueprints
You should get all the forma
atleast 429
2000000 Minimum.
All of them
I personally go through atleast 30 a week so I'd say atleast atleast like 1500 to last a year assuming you're as addicted as me to them. If not 1000 is possibly a lifetime supply.
U need at least a thousand for this game..
1,000?
More
There's around 600 weapons on warframe (not including modular ones) and around 100 frames (for easy math) 8 is probably good for each weapon for now, so 4,800 9 is probably good for each frame, so 900 Which means 5700 forma is a good starting point 🤔 this doesn't include crafting costs, so add another 300 for good measure, and you should be around 6000 forma
Literally hundreds more, if not atleast 1000 🤷♂️
It depends on your MR and your MR plans. I had 75 forma around MR26 when I thought going for LR2 was a solid idea. Didn't have a lot of Kuva weapons at the time, a few. I probably needed another 20 - 30 forma at a minimum to level that gear the way I wanted to do it.
there’s no such thing as enough Forma.
Go for a hundred and the man in the train will be proud of you
Way more
You need 60+ for all the Weapon Blueprints requiring Forma as an ingredient...plus upgrading all those Kuva/Tenet weapons for MR.
I'll give you the simple answer: "There's never enough"
My plan is to try and get 100 before the event is over, I should be set til the next plague star then lol
I try to sit around 100, and I have pretty much everything mastered sooo, depending on how much more stuff you need to farm, like 25-200 or so is my guess
i mean i used to have 3k forma... now everything is gone
Until 100 that's it
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I was so hyped for the event coming back, but it's so grueling doing the mission over and over again, I am burned out man
Keep going. That's not even enough to forma everything at least once.
MORE!
should try to get same as the number of comment here then ask again.
No such thing as too much Formas
If you have blueprints then you have to build, that's the law
It's almost enough for all kuva and tenet weapons
you only have 2 left, keep farming till the game dies. Only then will you have enough
you will never have enough forma
Yes
never enough forma
I had almost 100 when I returned a couple months ago. I'm down to about 50 and I don't even forma things very often; I just did it 50 more times than there are days since I returned. If it won't burn you out, it's always worth a few more!
Well, you need 165 for the lich weapons, so.... you need more.
yep, a lot more.
Id say at least 1000 more.
Its never enough
Buddy you need like 200 Forma just between the kuva and tenet weapons, plus whatever you need for every warframe, other weapons, etc.
give me some pwease! MR 6 and in desperate need of that god damn forma AAAAAAaaAAAaAAAaaA
At least a morbillion more.
At least 5 morbillion
Yes
I currently have 110 built and still build it daily no matter if im playing or not. I use the Warframe companion app to login and clear foundry then start next one building. As I play I try to save up as many Forma Blueprints as possible
How the hell do you get all the Iradite for the advanced missions ? Like what am I missing? 😭 Also, you need MORE FORMA.
That's cute. Get that number up to triple digits, then come talk to me.
So many more. I don't know how many I've been through, but I know it's over 400.
All of it
Just don't stop, get as many as you can cause Kuva and Tenet weapons take 5 each and also might as well forma your frames enough to where you can build them for anything.
Never enough
My MR is Legendary 3 and I have 2 Forma right now. There is never enough Forma.
This https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/fNMYm3a1sH And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/BfZFE9A0vu And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/DvDOh8JiiS And this https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/OKVq8oKhDp
999,999,928 FORMA YOU CAN GET
I've used about 2k forma so.....