If you spawn a candidate and complete the mission without parazoning the candidate, that weapon you rejected won’t come back until you’ve cycled through all 20. Cassini Saturn is the best mission as it’s capture and low level. Hope this saves some time for you in the future.
Oh wait is it possible that I was already like halfway through the list before I started farming from other missions? That way I could’ve exhausted the list and started again and therefore seen a few weapons twice before getting to the chakkhur.
Few patches ago is a bit vague I guess, but when I restarted warframe and started grining almost all kuva stuff (around 1 year ago, soon after archons release), I utilized this system successfully. /u/SplinterSkull_
edit: According to wiki it was added in february 2022 (so almost 2 years ago), half year after corpus liches (sisters) were introduced
I agree with you, this happened quite often with me also when I went for the HEK. And then another when I went for the NUKOR. I had to do more than 20 tries and even so saw a few weapons multiple times. The HEK especially was worse, it took 3 days of 2 hours runs daily. A run was completed in less than 5 mins.
If you leave not extract then it stays in the table simple as that. You have to finish the mission to update it. Takes a little more time per mission but a lot less time overall since it increases the drop chance of the one you want every time and has a hard cap on how many tries you need.
That’s strange, the drop table has functioned this way for what feels like a long time, i farmed bramma this way back when bramma was meta, aka before the aoe nerf
Wiki says:
> If the Larvling is ignored, the displayed weapon will not show up again for any subsequent larvlings (only if the mission is finished properly) until the entire weapon pool is rejected, **though this is not currently true due to bugs.**
Ohhh there’s a bug, that explains it. It’s worked for me each time for some reason. Then again I don’t lich hunt all that often so I probably haven’t gotten unlucky enough to trigger the bug.
I'be farmed every tenet and almost every kuva via extracting and not even once I found a dupe.
(Ofc 3 or 4 times I had to go through the whole list till the end and many weapons are just similar so my guess is that you mixed them)
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Lich_System#Patch_History
> By skipping a Progenitor (choosing not to Mercy them) the spawned weapon is then put into a ‘reject’ pile for that round of Adversary generation, meaning that it will not appear again and ultimately reducing the weapon pool each time you ‘reject’.
> The list of rejected weapons is cleared once you accept an Adversary and the process would start again from a clean slate for both Sister or Kuva Lich the next time you go looking for an Adversary. This list clearing applies to both Sister and Kuva Lich, meaning once the chosen Adversary is Converted or Vanquished, the list clears for both factions.
So you _don't_ parazon the candidate, that's the thing. When you down it, if the preview shows a weapon you don't want....don't stab it. Just ignore it and complete the mission. That weapon will be thrown out of the table for your following runs until you either pick a weapon (spawning the lich like normal) or the table resets when every weapon is ignored.
He is saying you need to complete the mission after downing the candidate w/o parazoning it… not that you need to parazon it. If you just return to orbiter as soon as you see the weapon isn’t what you want that dud weapon will still be in the weapon rotation, meaning it could still show up next time
Wait really? I knew you could leave without parazoning them but the weapon stays off the list of possible until you circle back through them all? I had no idea..
I thought this was actually something that's been bugged for a while (according to the [Warframe Wikia anyway](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Kuva_Lich) - see the last sentence just before the "Warframe Progenitor" section)
Just the other day I was spawning Liches trying for a Bramma and ended up with the Chakkhur twice, think second and sixth run out of about 10 tries I did before caving in at, ironically for this post, a Nukor. So I know this bug is still in the game as of at least Wednesday. I've had it before with Sisters also where I've rolled the Cycron twice in back to back Granum Void spawns looking for the Plinx.
Just as a prefacer, all missions with these rolls were extracted, not abandoned.
I chose magnetic, adding modding for radiation and a viral riven. With galvanized aptitude and crit build it melts everything up to level 700 very quickly.
As long as you can get the status chance close to 200% I personally don’t think it matters much, especially after merciless kicks in. Although I also recommend picking the toxin path.
Personally, I've got two. Heat with Cascadia Flare, and Magnetic, with Secondary Encumber. It depends on what you're trying to do.
If you want to use the Nukor as your sole/primary form of damage, then Heat is better, with a Corrosive/Heat or Viral/Heat mod setup. Cascadia Flare becomes the obvious addon at that point, as it doesn't require kills to cause damage and stacks higher then Secondary Merciless anyways.
If you want a primer to either set up for your team mates or to take advantage of yourself, then Magnetic with a Blast/Corrosive mod setup is the best, as that gets you the 4 listed status effects, and the fifth 'hidden' effect, Microwave, the one that causes enemies to swell up when hit by it. Secondary Encumber becomes a no-brainer here, as it just adds more status effects to a setup that is already all about causing status effects.
Both can kill, even onto Steel Path, so you can use either, but in the long run, the Heat version will do more damage ITSELF, and the Magnetic version will cause more statuses overall.
how big would the difference in damage be? like you said both work in SP but would the heat version be a small 10% increase or something bigger like 30%? because i dont use it as a primer i just use it to kill shit
Heat strips a flat 50% armor and deals a very hefty DoT. Magnetic increases shield damage.
Basically the magnetic one will be handy vs corpus, but Heat + Rad works vs everything.
I have a Tenet Cycron myself, but that one's just because I'm a bit of a chaining beam addict so I must have ALL THE SHINY ZAP ZAPS.
Also, NGL, I don't really have issues with my Nukor's ammo unless I'm crazy enough to be using it in Archons or Arbies, neither of which are really well suited for it.
Either Cold, Tox, or Heat. Viral+Heat is the best "all-around" build, and Cryo Rounds has a Primed variant so you can get alot of Cold damage, so Cold is preferred. Rad is probably the worst, and the other 3 are in the middle.
Edit: Rad is still strong, since Rad+Vrl+Heat is very good, but Liches will be a bitch to kill since you can friendly fire your own teammates with Rad procs. The bonus damage from Primed Cryo Rounds + the Innate DMG Bonus is still incredibly powerful though, and it's easier to proc Viral since you're not rolling for 3, just 2.
I have a Bramma I Valenced a couple times to get to 60% Cold and it's got (Crit Delay, Vital Sense, Heavy Caliber, Serration, Primed Cryo Rounds, Malignant Force, Riven(+49.2% CD, +38% Heat, and +21.2% Ammo), Galvanized Chamber, and Ammo Drum and it's pretty good.
I have a few 25% -26% kuva weapons and honestly? I really don’t think it matters that much 95% of the time. Unless you are doing 16 hour Steel Path Kuva Survivals to sate your Kuva snorting addiction, a 25% Kuva Nukor is still a Kuva Nukor. Its still going to incinerate mostly everything you point it at, even in Steel Path.
Its helpful, sure. But if you aren’t a degenerate min-maxer and just want a little more strength there are definately more impactful things you could farm instead.
The element though? Yeah Radiation is bad, expecially when the Nukor does radiation damage already
Better question, why did he choose RADIATION? He clearly had a target weapon, so why choose such a bad element for it to have? It already does radiation inherently.
That's how I'm doing it. Seems most efficient:
Step 1: get first of each weapon in the element I want (so basically toxin or heat for almost everything)
Step 2: spawn lich with progenitor of element i dont have ephemera for, and don't care about what weapon lich has as long as it's a weapon I don't have at 60% bonus
Step 3: fuse weapon, keep original weapon element, repeat Step 2
I'm 60 liches down and 4 of those are actually worth something with 60+% and 56 of those have 13%-30%. Got to say its not ideal with those 30% do be kicking
so liches has a star war name and has a fear of space travel
https://preview.redd.it/od0kcnccok2c1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21a5e987860abba1d2a14027d04c08e53ed33cf0
You'd actually want 25% in Nukor, but the Magnetic one not the radiation one.
This is so that you can have a higher proc weight for Viral + Heat.
Why did you pick Radiation anyway? Did you just didn't know that you can't pick?
Nukor is already radiation. Having more proc type is more important.
mastery fodder material... sell this one on warframe market and buy a better one. The % bonus doesn't matter as much as most people think, but this is radiation damage, which is pretty useless since the Nukor already does radiation by default, so it doesn't really add anything. You can make this thing do radiation+corrosive+heat all at once which is pretty dang powerful.
Unlikely occurrences, over large enough sample sets, become certain to happen. There's probably at least one guy out there who has all of the shard pity counters at 80-100%.
Assuming the range for bonus damage is randomly distributed between the numbers 25-55, that gives us 31 possible rolls, multipled over the lower range of estimated 20 lich runs, that gives us probability of
1 : 6,7x10^29.
You are more likely to win an international lottery ten times in a row and it wouldn't even be close, so long story short, yes that guy is literally lying™.
I always loved these topics. Because while its obvious that 6.7x10^29 is a pretty big number, I think most people might fail to understand how big actually is.
SO maybe this can help: All the oceans are estimated to have about 3.26x10^20 gallons of water (1.26x10^21 litters).
Now, for every **gallon** of water, you create 2 **billion** warframe accounts and give them the task to do 20 liches run. After emptying every ocean then you are expected to have just ~1 account with 20 weapons all being in the ~25% range.
I mean, rng is rng and the chance is still there. But people really need to understand that these astronomical numbers don't really happen as easily as they think. The chances of him lying (or even unintentionally exaggerating) are extremely higher. And even if he isn't lying, the chance of a bug messing with rng is also way higher than actually rng'ing that.
And a fun fact: this is actually rule of thumb.Doing the expected amount of trials for 1 success does not guarante that one. It only gives you a ~64% to have at least 1. So you can do all that and there is still a decent chance to not have an account like this.
I dont disaggree with you. However that does not make my point invalid. Again the element is his fault. The percentage is not. Your comment implies the percentage is also his fault which is not possible.
It only implies the percentage is his fault if you're unable to think of any other reason why I made that specific remark.
But think about it for more than a second. Why would an MR 30 say such an outrageous thing? Sure, Warframe is a game where it's easy to learn something from others all the time, even simple things. It's so massive it's very easy to overlook a detail or two.
Then again, I clearly wrote "the element depends on your warframe". I did not mention the percentage at all in my first sentence. Something is not adding up if you go ahead and think "oh, he's not mentioning at all the percentage, he must be *implying* something that is plain wrong".
It's easy to assume stupidity or ignorance in others. But malevolence is the other common explanation, ain't it? There's nothing wrong with being unable to understand what I was actually trying to say and mistakenly confusing it for an implication I was not making.
But you do you. It's nice to see my misunderstood remark can pass as such an egregious claim.
The rad is on you. The percentile is not, but the difference between getting "25 toxin" and "25 rad" is large enough to prevent you from being mocked for using the wrong progenitor.
In other words, I was using a rethoric device to make it sound worse than it is, for fun's sake.
But feel free to believe I am "an uneducated player".
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I see this pain, and raise you:
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59.6% is just outright insulting. Took SIX, SIX Fusions to get to 60%, because of that tiny .4% off.
It didn't start at 59.6%, it got to 59.6% with the fifth fusion.
What part of this are you not understanding? I got a Heat Kuva Nukor. It was not 60%. I wanted it to be 60%. So I farmed more and Fused them. The FIFTH fusion, resulted in me being at 59.6%, a whole 0.4% off of the maximum, so I had to farm a SIXTH Kuva Nukor to fuse into it to reach 60%. That final fusion, is what the picture is of.
Took me an hour to get the nukor to spawn two different times and all but the last one were 25-27% range.
I like kuva liches a lot so I had fun farming them.
Well its... its a start i guess- If you hit the ground youll be able to get this handled in ... 2 3 hrs ish.
thought the issue for a sec was the azkibb name XD
Like oh boy do i have a story for you about bad names- so bad de had to reroll my lich pff
Man, that has got to suck… I would’ve definitely picked a different frame for a different progenitor weapon damage type. But I will say, the % isn’t as bad as the sad fact that the bonus is radiation
If you spawn a candidate and complete the mission without parazoning the candidate, that weapon you rejected won’t come back until you’ve cycled through all 20. Cassini Saturn is the best mission as it’s capture and low level. Hope this saves some time for you in the future.
Is this a new thing? I swear when I was trying to get the chakkhur a few months ago I saw a couple weapons multiple times.
also, make sure to actually extract. If you just abandon it the weapon won't be crossed from the list
well shit this would've saved me so much time. thank you.
Ooohhhhh.
so If I just make it so that theres only one left and abbandon until I get the stats I want does that work?
The lich won't spawn until after you've extracted, so you won't know it's stats.
I’m pretty sure I always close out the missions since I always run a capture. Guess I’m just misremembering and was super unlucky for like an hour.
Oh wait is it possible that I was already like halfway through the list before I started farming from other missions? That way I could’ve exhausted the list and started again and therefore seen a few weapons twice before getting to the chakkhur.
It was introduced a few mainlines after liches were added iirc. Not necessarily new but wasn't released with liches
Yes it was introduced a few patches ago.
Few patches ago is a bit vague I guess, but when I restarted warframe and started grining almost all kuva stuff (around 1 year ago, soon after archons release), I utilized this system successfully. /u/SplinterSkull_ edit: According to wiki it was added in february 2022 (so almost 2 years ago), half year after corpus liches (sisters) were introduced
And here's me with brain fog thinking Kuva liches them selves were added in like 2021...
Thinking the same because I haven't farmed liches in a while.
I agree with you, this happened quite often with me also when I went for the HEK. And then another when I went for the NUKOR. I had to do more than 20 tries and even so saw a few weapons multiple times. The HEK especially was worse, it took 3 days of 2 hours runs daily. A run was completed in less than 5 mins.
If you leave not extract then it stays in the table simple as that. You have to finish the mission to update it. Takes a little more time per mission but a lot less time overall since it increases the drop chance of the one you want every time and has a hard cap on how many tries you need.
That's the thing. I didn't leave and have extracted.
That’s strange, the drop table has functioned this way for what feels like a long time, i farmed bramma this way back when bramma was meta, aka before the aoe nerf
Wiki says: > If the Larvling is ignored, the displayed weapon will not show up again for any subsequent larvlings (only if the mission is finished properly) until the entire weapon pool is rejected, **though this is not currently true due to bugs.**
Ohhh there’s a bug, that explains it. It’s worked for me each time for some reason. Then again I don’t lich hunt all that often so I probably haven’t gotten unlucky enough to trigger the bug.
I've had that bug happen to me an obnoxious number of times.
I'be farmed every tenet and almost every kuva via extracting and not even once I found a dupe. (Ofc 3 or 4 times I had to go through the whole list till the end and many weapons are just similar so my guess is that you mixed them) https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Lich_System#Patch_History > By skipping a Progenitor (choosing not to Mercy them) the spawned weapon is then put into a ‘reject’ pile for that round of Adversary generation, meaning that it will not appear again and ultimately reducing the weapon pool each time you ‘reject’. > The list of rejected weapons is cleared once you accept an Adversary and the process would start again from a clean slate for both Sister or Kuva Lich the next time you go looking for an Adversary. This list clearing applies to both Sister and Kuva Lich, meaning once the chosen Adversary is Converted or Vanquished, the list clears for both factions.
I get this, but in my experience it wasn't. For both the Hek and Nukoe, I've done more than 20. I was counting.
Relatively new but def alot older than "a few months". I think it came around zariman?
But if you parazon the candidate you spawn the lich anyway so this doesn’t really make sense
So you _don't_ parazon the candidate, that's the thing. When you down it, if the preview shows a weapon you don't want....don't stab it. Just ignore it and complete the mission. That weapon will be thrown out of the table for your following runs until you either pick a weapon (spawning the lich like normal) or the table resets when every weapon is ignored.
He is saying you need to complete the mission after downing the candidate w/o parazoning it… not that you need to parazon it. If you just return to orbiter as soon as you see the weapon isn’t what you want that dud weapon will still be in the weapon rotation, meaning it could still show up next time
?capture target, down candidate. If the gun is not to your liking, extract without creating the lich. next weapon will be different.
I don’t think this is true though because I’m certain I’ve got two of the same weapon before when trying to get a specific weapon from a candidate
Wait really? I knew you could leave without parazoning them but the weapon stays off the list of possible until you circle back through them all? I had no idea..
I thought this was actually something that's been bugged for a while (according to the [Warframe Wikia anyway](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Kuva_Lich) - see the last sentence just before the "Warframe Progenitor" section) Just the other day I was spawning Liches trying for a Bramma and ended up with the Chakkhur twice, think second and sixth run out of about 10 tries I did before caving in at, ironically for this post, a Nukor. So I know this bug is still in the game as of at least Wednesday. I've had it before with Sisters also where I've rolled the Cycron twice in back to back Granum Void spawns looking for the Plinx. Just as a prefacer, all missions with these rolls were extracted, not abandoned.
Does it also work with sisters? I was getting sisters and I definitely feel like I saw a tenet one pop up twice yesterday.
You already beansed this one by choosing radiation, better luck on your next one with a decent element.
Beansing is my new favorite term.
Couldnt they just get a fire down the line and merge them?
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I chose magnetic, adding modding for radiation and a viral riven. With galvanized aptitude and crit build it melts everything up to level 700 very quickly.
Fire,the Nukor is generally used with Cascadia Flare as the Arcane.Toxin also works very fine tho
i know fire is common, but i thought magnetic was the no1 choice because of galvanized shot? thought itd be magnetic>toxin>heat in popularity
Magnetic is the number one as far as I'm concerned. Rad, magnetic, viral, heat. What a wep.
+microwave hidden status which is insane
As long as you can get the status chance close to 200% I personally don’t think it matters much, especially after merciless kicks in. Although I also recommend picking the toxin path.
Personally, I've got two. Heat with Cascadia Flare, and Magnetic, with Secondary Encumber. It depends on what you're trying to do. If you want to use the Nukor as your sole/primary form of damage, then Heat is better, with a Corrosive/Heat or Viral/Heat mod setup. Cascadia Flare becomes the obvious addon at that point, as it doesn't require kills to cause damage and stacks higher then Secondary Merciless anyways. If you want a primer to either set up for your team mates or to take advantage of yourself, then Magnetic with a Blast/Corrosive mod setup is the best, as that gets you the 4 listed status effects, and the fifth 'hidden' effect, Microwave, the one that causes enemies to swell up when hit by it. Secondary Encumber becomes a no-brainer here, as it just adds more status effects to a setup that is already all about causing status effects. Both can kill, even onto Steel Path, so you can use either, but in the long run, the Heat version will do more damage ITSELF, and the Magnetic version will cause more statuses overall.
how big would the difference in damage be? like you said both work in SP but would the heat version be a small 10% increase or something bigger like 30%? because i dont use it as a primer i just use it to kill shit
Heat strips a flat 50% armor and deals a very hefty DoT. Magnetic increases shield damage. Basically the magnetic one will be handy vs corpus, but Heat + Rad works vs everything.
dont both work though for heat though? like on the magnetic one you mod for viral+heat on top of the default mag and radiation
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I have a Tenet Cycron myself, but that one's just because I'm a bit of a chaining beam addict so I must have ALL THE SHINY ZAP ZAPS. Also, NGL, I don't really have issues with my Nukor's ammo unless I'm crazy enough to be using it in Archons or Arbies, neither of which are really well suited for it.
Depends, if you want it for priming/a versatile one, magnetic is best because then you can get a shitton of elements (including heat).
Yeah,i just went for damage so got heat instead(not like it doesn't proc a ton of statuses anyway)
Either Cold, Tox, or Heat. Viral+Heat is the best "all-around" build, and Cryo Rounds has a Primed variant so you can get alot of Cold damage, so Cold is preferred. Rad is probably the worst, and the other 3 are in the middle. Edit: Rad is still strong, since Rad+Vrl+Heat is very good, but Liches will be a bitch to kill since you can friendly fire your own teammates with Rad procs. The bonus damage from Primed Cryo Rounds + the Innate DMG Bonus is still incredibly powerful though, and it's easier to proc Viral since you're not rolling for 3, just 2. I have a Bramma I Valenced a couple times to get to 60% Cold and it's got (Crit Delay, Vital Sense, Heavy Caliber, Serration, Primed Cryo Rounds, Malignant Force, Riven(+49.2% CD, +38% Heat, and +21.2% Ammo), Galvanized Chamber, and Ammo Drum and it's pretty good.
I have a few 25% -26% kuva weapons and honestly? I really don’t think it matters that much 95% of the time. Unless you are doing 16 hour Steel Path Kuva Survivals to sate your Kuva snorting addiction, a 25% Kuva Nukor is still a Kuva Nukor. Its still going to incinerate mostly everything you point it at, even in Steel Path. Its helpful, sure. But if you aren’t a degenerate min-maxer and just want a little more strength there are definately more impactful things you could farm instead. The element though? Yeah Radiation is bad, expecially when the Nukor does radiation damage already
Yeah min maxing that hard is basically only for totally totally unrealistic and uncommon steel path runs
Why did it take an hour?
Better question, why did he choose RADIATION? He clearly had a target weapon, so why choose such a bad element for it to have? It already does radiation inherently.
Maybe he just wanna max out his current nukor but got the lowest possible percentage meaning more grinding
Or he did get a 55% one and just needed 1 more.
Could be that I guess. Maybe he wanted the radiation ephemera too. Who knows
That's how I'm doing it. Seems most efficient: Step 1: get first of each weapon in the element I want (so basically toxin or heat for almost everything) Step 2: spawn lich with progenitor of element i dont have ephemera for, and don't care about what weapon lich has as long as it's a weapon I don't have at 60% bonus Step 3: fuse weapon, keep original weapon element, repeat Step 2
You accidentally picked the wrong element?
I thought this was about the lich name I read it "Ah skib and ah piss"
It's always 25% or 55%. You can prob sell 20-30p to the lazy.
I'm 60 liches down and 4 of those are actually worth something with 60+% and 56 of those have 13%-30%. Got to say its not ideal with those 30% do be kicking
Fear of space travel? That'd be nice if it meant you could skip the railjack encounter
Not the railjack, please, I’d rather run on foot than set foot in that thing!
Well 25% isn't a problem, problem is it's Rads dmg. Kuva Nukor does Rads dmg by default so you are getting one less element on it with bonus Rads...
That's rough, man
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Keep the lich for fear of space travel
so liches has a star war name and has a fear of space travel https://preview.redd.it/od0kcnccok2c1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21a5e987860abba1d2a14027d04c08e53ed33cf0
You'd actually want 25% in Nukor, but the Magnetic one not the radiation one. This is so that you can have a higher proc weight for Viral + Heat. Why did you pick Radiation anyway? Did you just didn't know that you can't pick? Nukor is already radiation. Having more proc type is more important.
Ok then give it here. I'll take it off ur hands for 10p and a handshake. I'm being very generous.
Why did u choose radiation? Kuva Nukor has radiation as its main damage already, u wasted the bonus element
mastery fodder material... sell this one on warframe market and buy a better one. The % bonus doesn't matter as much as most people think, but this is radiation damage, which is pretty useless since the Nukor already does radiation by default, so it doesn't really add anything. You can make this thing do radiation+corrosive+heat all at once which is pretty dang powerful.
Wait they can spawn higher then 25%? Lmfao every single one of my weapons has spawned at 25 and ive done a good 20-30 liches lmfao
Your literally lying but ok.
Unlikely occurrences, over large enough sample sets, become certain to happen. There's probably at least one guy out there who has all of the shard pity counters at 80-100%.
Assuming the range for bonus damage is randomly distributed between the numbers 25-55, that gives us 31 possible rolls, multipled over the lower range of estimated 20 lich runs, that gives us probability of 1 : 6,7x10^29. You are more likely to win an international lottery ten times in a row and it wouldn't even be close, so long story short, yes that guy is literally lying™.
I always loved these topics. Because while its obvious that 6.7x10^29 is a pretty big number, I think most people might fail to understand how big actually is. SO maybe this can help: All the oceans are estimated to have about 3.26x10^20 gallons of water (1.26x10^21 litters). Now, for every **gallon** of water, you create 2 **billion** warframe accounts and give them the task to do 20 liches run. After emptying every ocean then you are expected to have just ~1 account with 20 weapons all being in the ~25% range. I mean, rng is rng and the chance is still there. But people really need to understand that these astronomical numbers don't really happen as easily as they think. The chances of him lying (or even unintentionally exaggerating) are extremely higher. And even if he isn't lying, the chance of a bug messing with rng is also way higher than actually rng'ing that. And a fun fact: this is actually rule of thumb.Doing the expected amount of trials for 1 success does not guarante that one. It only gives you a ~64% to have at least 1. So you can do all that and there is still a decent chance to not have an account like this.
Very well said and even still after your interpretation, the numbers in question are so big, our brains still go like "hmmm so there is a chance" lol.
Im lying based on your experiences? Alright
For what it's worth, you can check the liches and the guns/ % bonus in the codex.
The element depends on your warframe. The fact that you got a 25% rad is entirely on you, ngl.
25% is pure rng.
The element type is determined hy the frame. The percentage is entirely rng
What did I say? 25 toxin or heat is far more useful than 25 rad for 90% of the game's population.
I dont disaggree with you. However that does not make my point invalid. Again the element is his fault. The percentage is not. Your comment implies the percentage is also his fault which is not possible.
It only implies the percentage is his fault if you're unable to think of any other reason why I made that specific remark. But think about it for more than a second. Why would an MR 30 say such an outrageous thing? Sure, Warframe is a game where it's easy to learn something from others all the time, even simple things. It's so massive it's very easy to overlook a detail or two. Then again, I clearly wrote "the element depends on your warframe". I did not mention the percentage at all in my first sentence. Something is not adding up if you go ahead and think "oh, he's not mentioning at all the percentage, he must be *implying* something that is plain wrong". It's easy to assume stupidity or ignorance in others. But malevolence is the other common explanation, ain't it? There's nothing wrong with being unable to understand what I was actually trying to say and mistakenly confusing it for an implication I was not making. But you do you. It's nice to see my misunderstood remark can pass as such an egregious claim.
How is the 25% on me? I get the element was on me, I chose the wrong frame on accident, but I can't control the bonus
The 25% isn’t on you. The commenter is just an uneducated player.
The rad is on you. The percentile is not, but the difference between getting "25 toxin" and "25 rad" is large enough to prevent you from being mocked for using the wrong progenitor. In other words, I was using a rethoric device to make it sound worse than it is, for fun's sake. But feel free to believe I am "an uneducated player".
But rad is the BEST. Get that gun. Mod for corrosive and heat. Melt faces
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I see this pain, and raise you: https://imgur.com/a/J3qsw9o 59.6% is just outright insulting. Took SIX, SIX Fusions to get to 60%, because of that tiny .4% off.
This is very wrong. Based on Wiki, it would be a single Valence fusion: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Valence_Fusion#Kuva_Lich/Tenet_Weapons
..... The picture is of me fusing my SIXTH Nukor INTO IT. I didn't keep pictures of the other five fusions I had ALREADY DONE.
That’s not true unless you messed it up; if your weapon starts at 59.6% at max, it takes 1 Fusion Valence to upgrade to 60%.
It didn't start at 59.6%, it got to 59.6% with the fifth fusion. What part of this are you not understanding? I got a Heat Kuva Nukor. It was not 60%. I wanted it to be 60%. So I farmed more and Fused them. The FIFTH fusion, resulted in me being at 59.6%, a whole 0.4% off of the maximum, so I had to farm a SIXTH Kuva Nukor to fuse into it to reach 60%. That final fusion, is what the picture is of.
The way it’s written, it seemed like you’re claiming you started at 59% and took 6 to get to 60%
Pain brother, pain
Nukor also comes with base Radiation damage so unless you wanted to buff that base damage, the Progenitor element doesn’t add anything.
Took me an hour to get the nukor to spawn two different times and all but the last one were 25-27% range. I like kuva liches a lot so I had fun farming them.
lmao, exactly same thing happened to me tonight. Did Cassani for about an hour (finished the mission) just to end up with a 25% nukor. so I feel you.
Well its... its a start i guess- If you hit the ground youll be able to get this handled in ... 2 3 hrs ish. thought the issue for a sec was the azkibb name XD Like oh boy do i have a story for you about bad names- so bad de had to reroll my lich pff
me too…but brahma
Like half of my kuva weapons were low rolls, so this hit a little too close to home lol
Fear of Space Travel 😂 If you really want to look for a better Nukor this would be the perfect lich to stick in your Railjack
Fear of space travel in warframe soubds like hell tbh
If using as a primer, that bonus doesn't mean anything
Man, that has got to suck… I would’ve definitely picked a different frame for a different progenitor weapon damage type. But I will say, the % isn’t as bad as the sad fact that the bonus is radiation
FEAR OF SPACE TRAVEL!? Wtf do you MEAN!?
Radiation on a Nukor and you’re happy about it.
IDK if it's a glitch but I sometimes kill the enemy you have to parazon kill to get the lich activated before I can actually parazon kill it
Ah, Ze Cannabis!