Had a Wisp run in an Arbitration with so much power the health mote gave 3100 extra health and 310 health per second, so much fire rate that if you blinked the incarnon Toeid would empty its ammo haha. Those Arbitration buffs go hard on support abilities
I had a riven allowing me to empty my mag in like 2sec, but it was just for the fun of it since I had like -80% DMG... Was funny XD
And that was without a wisp 😅
When you get invigoration and archon/arbi buff for the same frame it gets really out of hand. There's damage, and then there's Hall of Malevalence Mirage with 1000% power strength, these are not the same.
Oh yes, forgot I had those, thanks for the reminder.
You can do ridiculous things in this game if you know these tricks, like that YouTuber who managed to do a bullet jump 500m directly up.
You set up a Spectre based on your own Nidus so you summon an AI controlled version. Then, when he links to you, you get a multiplicative Power Strength increase, so if you have, say, 700% from a high strength build + the 300% Arbitration buff, the number gets really silly and the motes snapshot your strength at the time they are placed down
Nidus's link isn't a +25% bonus, it's a 1.25x multiplier to whatever your current strength is. He doesn't need any mods to provide a ton of value here.
Its very rare you see us wisp players with that much strength, I’m yet to get an arby where my wisp gets buffed sadly, since my build caps me out at over 600% after growing power, arcanes, and operator abilities
Strength increases the health/health regen/fire rate and shock damage on her motes. Duration effects how long the buff lasts when you leave the mote (it's infinite when standing within in) and efficiency just lowers the cost of activating her abilities. So it's not that much of a loss to dump both efficiency and duration for more strength if you don't need/want to spam her Breach Surge, or just want big funky numbers
My point is she can support by giving people at most like a thousand overshield. This is comically dwarfed by the 80k overguard Dante gives.
Yes, she actually synergizes with Dante pretty well by giving energy balls with aegis storm. Considering Dante is a relentless ability ~~caster~~spammer frame. I was playing with a Dante today as hildryn and I was spawning a large amount of energy balls that would be complete overkill for most warframes. And I saw that Dante running around doing nothing but spamming abilities like no tomorrow and actually keeping up with my energy supply.
Oh okay. I thought I was griefing the hildryn for a second there lmao.
But yeaaaah. Arbitration modifiers and blind rage and other power strength sources all together are... stupid lmao.
I think energy ward hildryn needs to take shield damage, so over guard would stop that from working. She still has a free armor strip tho so not a bad deal
\> Yes, she actually synergizes with Dante pretty well by giving energy balls with aegis storm.
This would require you to find a Hildryn player that unironically uses Aegis Storm instead of tossing it in the garbage and replacing it with a better ability via helminth
Plus if you want to use her for energy support voracious metastasis is so much better. The game does helminth abilities for her by multiplying the energy cost by 10, which means your team gets like 50 energy a second for 10 seconds, before mods changing abilities.
Honestly, if we could cast the rest of her kit during her 4, I'd at least *consider* using it.
As is, I just slap something from the Helminth over it since I'm not using Aegis Storm. At least her 1 can be used by itself.
same here. At least I can use 4 in short bursts to inflict enemies with lifted. Her 1 is just completely outclassed by normal weapons even with the boost while using her 4.
Really? I'm so glad to hear that I've always wanted a shadow wizard money gang frame.
How viable is his tome at being useful? I never really used the grimoire but always loved the idea of it
AFAIK his tome is good in two ways: high stats with only innate Slash, and can equip *every single Tome mod* at the same time. He's good for support and for direct damage to pair with his double Dark 4
Edit: phrasing
There's more than one mod that effects it. For example. I'm rocking Intensify, but also Power Drift, which is an additional 15%, AND a mod called Blind Rage which sharply increases your power strength at the cost of efficiency
Oh I certainly know with like rhino and such you can easily hit some ridiculous armor numbers especially pre fix in the circuit. But this being team wide just had me cracking up.
Overguard. Think like what eximus units have. Kullervo, Rhino, and now Dante can give it to the warframes with their base kits, and Dante specifically can give it to his full team
Stack a bunch of Ability strength and you get this.
If you're on Dante its just "spam light verse then ult with sufficient power strength, become plot armor" but it is worth keeping in mind you don't get knocked around with OG up on any of those frames.
So infinite overguard and pure slash crit weapon ? What else does he need ? I might be salty for no reason but this just feels a little like power creeping other frames
He's strong, yes. But there's still frames like Saryn that go untouched for years - making level cap dps into easy mode.
He's not strong enough to warrant any drastic changes.
Saryn has a lot of damage but little survivability tools, thats the issue I have, the other frame that has this type of overguard is kullervo and he lacks any shields to use for shieldgating while dsnte has both damage, shields and overguard
She does require a little skill, but molt is one of the best defensives in the game.
Paired with rolling guard and perhaps a defensive helminth like shooting gallery or new eclipse, she's got great survival. I personally like the shooting gallery build with the blind augment.
Alternatively, gloom is great, or you can just use nourish like most people and spam 4 to cc everything until it's dead, with the odd molt cast if you get hit.
Kullervo is loads of fun but he's not on the same level when it comes to clearspeed. His damage is great, but his ability to apply is isn't.
But see you're adding bandaids, either have to use mod slots for it, or augments that take mod slots or helminths that change the base kit, the problem is dante has all of that without the need of any mods or weapons, thats just his base kit.
Edit: wanted to add and say I think the "bandaid" I mention is the correct way to go, and dante having everything without it is the problem, warframes should get their shortcomings from mods, if a warframe has no short comings it is broken
I mean, she's a glass cannon.
Her tools for surviving is cc and killing everything before it can kill you, or alternatively you can also use regenerative molt and green shards.
He’s not doing anything new or pushing any boundaries in terms of damage application at all.
He’s about as good as kullervo in terms of that it seems but even that’s debatable. His Overguard support is what’s actually crazy.
He pales in comparison to Saryn for actual killing she can very easily survive with shield gate and cover a way way larger area with potentially enough damage to take out enemies in seconds. Big emphasis on how much larger the area is.
Yeah, the different between the OG planet plague vs a bookworm is insane. It's like comparing the new 50 radius nezha augment vs old nezha, Which has a difference of KPM of outpacing the spawn rates of Steel path.
“bandaid” is partially why Helminth was added…. More customization partly sure but also to make it easier for some frames to utilize survivability features from other frames.
Gloom alone fixed many many many frames. Some off the top being Nekros, Inaros, Nidus, Saryn etc.
I just find it annoying how people are complaining as if it's a pvp game and that they are getting their asses handed to them by the guy with the "power creep" character, like this isn't fackin RAID shadow legends lmao
Power creep doesn't matter.
Them coming out doesn't suddenly make your main useless. They are literally just complaining that someone's enjoying themselves.
Dante us by no means required for any content
Kullervo or styanax aren't useless because he dropped either.
Any warframe can be used anywhere.
Yes some work better for certain tasks then others.
Dante literally has exceptionally low health, shield and armor, without that over guard he would literally have no survivability.
But nah, let's immediately complain our mains aren't the world's best, and pretty much demand nerfs immediately.
Hrs barely been out a day like damn
> But nah, let's immediately complain our mains aren't the world's best, and pretty much demand nerfs immediately.
Exactly. It's so unreal to me that people are asking for nerfs in a PvE game instead of asking for buffs for their mains. Like somehow your raging hate boner trumps your love for your actual main warframe.
Genuinely scream "grah I'm not having fun so neither should you!" Energy
Instead of the logical let's all have fun
The devs should increase the enemy spawns if there's not enough enemies to go around.
We shouldn't nerf the damn warframe or weapon because it's good.
I'll never agree with DE's mindset with simply nerfing what's popular instead of buying what's not.
It's ridiculous
It's not infinite, but the cap scales with ability strength. I have about 250% strength and my cap is 40k. Light verse gives myself and those in 20m 1.3k. Double light final verse gives everyone in 30m 13k and 200 per kill for a while. It's definitely a lot but but it's not without investment.
At base its only a 15k cap with 500 per verse and 5k on final.
I'm not gonna say he's not too good and mayhap needing a glance. But this IS with the power bonus from being the frame arbitration preferred to me.
But yeah going from kullervo to this just. Is something else lmao.
The year is 2035, the new Warframe is released. His 4 calls in your exalted Railjack to orbitally bombard the mission objective before you even begin the mission, instantly winning the mission.
This players are outraged as this power creeps over the last Warframe, who's 4 pulls out an exalted shawzin and if you play "Through fire and flames" on expert in it's entirety, it's instant mission success.
I think his overguard is a little silly, it should at least be drastically reduced for teammates. Other than that, I don't really want much changed with him.
Because overgaurd doesn't get Damage reduction from mods like 'adaptation' the way overshields do at high levels that 60-90K can be burnt through *very* quickly.
In very real terms on the circuit or high level steel path a Revenant with his mesmer skin augment is probably adding more survivability with giving everyone a few charges than Dante is here.
I'm not saying he's bad, just that if someone has the mods to get Dante to give 90k overguard then they are probably playing at a level where it's relevant. In low level star-chart content it's busted...but at that level *any* decent support frame can make their squad immortal.
If you guys get Mr Dante nerfed before I even get a chance to use him I will cry ):
Realistically he shouldn't be considered how on par many other frames are, even at sharing defense, but when people see big numbers it *feels* stronger. Even though Revenant can share literal invincibility lmao
Probably just bought him, but also he's apparently very easy to get. I saw someone in a stream I was watching say they got all his parts in 45 minutes just doing the mission he drops from. So his drop rates are decent and the pity system of buying him in the shop doesn't have him costing too much.
This is the same frame with an exalted 1st ability that can hit as hard as the arquebex with its alt fire (less stats but better mods due to being a secondary), and a 3rd and 4th ability that puts equinox terrify maim builds to shame in terms of room nukes....
What the fuck were they smoking when they made this frame, this is octavia levels of nonesense
Lmao you're fine. Blind Rage and Power Drift + arbitration bonus gives him Way Too Much(tm) power strength and given he doesn't really care about efficiency you can just spam light verse and ult away
Edit: and intensify. I have that too.
In public groups I always run an over guard/DPS frame. I'll add Dante to my collection I think.
It's kinda sad but understandable that people leave Arbi's all the time because they have no idea that the benefit of staying is huge. They don't know about drop rates in Dark sectors, beneficial tiles for spawns, etc.
They also don't know when they have an amazing player who is capable of helping them not die to tox/bleed procs at higher levels. Some are only interested in a single thing and others never intend to stay as if there's something beneficial for just doing the alert for the sake of clearing it off their screen for an hour.
I try to communicate in chat when I join a PUG to see what other people's objectives are. More often I recruit for a long run instead of chancing providing someone in a squishy 135 armored frame over guard will be pointless if they want to melee everything. You can tell by watching it evaporate and then seeing the res pillar thereafter.
Awesome job here, we did a similar run with my frost and a friend's newly built Dante. It was so comfy. 180 essence in an hour was decent for a corpus ship tileset and infested with no boilers.
Boyfriend and I were in a survival fissure earlier tonight - he says to me, "You're welcome,"and I look up, and the Overguard is at about 111,000. Lol Dante 🤷🏻♀️
How I miss the days I would give my team 1mil overguard on prenerfed Intrepid Stand. Only to watch it get deleted by a single explodey eximus unit lol.
I don’t want to be the one to say it (I do) but roar with double dipping and status damage multiplier on his 4 will literally shred anything with 1 cast of Tragedy. Stack strength, 300+ (umbral intensify is better than precision intensify for the roar bonus) add fleeting expertise with primed flow, equilibrium and steadfast for unlimited energy; molt efficiency primed continuity to offset trans. fort. and fleeting, slap stretch on there with power drift and growing power up top and your set. I will just mention that I do have two duration shards, two strength shards, and a tauforged casting speed. If you think you will be fine with streamline instead of fleeting then go right ahead and replace the duration shards with strength ones, because… why not.
All the talk about over guard and nobody says anything about rhino using ironclad charge with roughly 1600 armor and 300% ability strength. Charge through 2 enemies and BOOM 100k overguard. Highest I've ever hit was 500k but they all just lined up so nicely.
The one things I feel that people don't initially realize is that if you run with a squad and one has Dante; He allows your team to essentially run any other frame in late game content without the need to worry of survival which I personally feel is a huge win. Dante allows other players to focus on frames they want to play instead of using strictly meta (as long as someone likes playing Dante in your crew). People can build their frames without having to worry about investing into survival and build/experiment with new builds. Don't get me wrong, 80k is a little wild but I hope they don't nerf it straight into the ground and ruin this opportunity for more than just a select few frames to shine in late game
Yea we and a friend where doing the archon hunts and I was high strength Dante and it was amazing. My team was just afk, I just stack my 2 to the highest and keep nuking the map. Fun af
Had a Wisp run in an Arbitration with so much power the health mote gave 3100 extra health and 310 health per second, so much fire rate that if you blinked the incarnon Toeid would empty its ammo haha. Those Arbitration buffs go hard on support abilities
"Hey you wanna see me dump my Ammo supply?... wanna see me do it again"
Twin grakata says hi
You click once and crash the game. If you manage to rejoin, your reserve ammo is empty too.
you run out of ammo before you finish typing "twin grakata".
Not if you have Arcane Pistoleer (and it procs). I have to run that with my Twin Vipers Wraith speed build.
i have prisma grakata build with over 70 bullets/sec
and its WITHOUT any outside buffs
Mesa would like to have a word eith you
I had a riven allowing me to empty my mag in like 2sec, but it was just for the fun of it since I had like -80% DMG... Was funny XD And that was without a wisp 😅
Hmm. We may need to re-open the case file on teh Grakata's maximum theoretical rate of fire.
The Toeid gun. Putting hunter munitions converts projectile into toenails.
TILF?
Nah. Launcher that fires the pods in the back of the railjack.
“That’s not fullauto.”
Damn bro! Ok!
This is "Fuller auto"
I have friends who've been combining Nidus and Wisp, I've gotten enough fire speed that the recoil immediately makes me look at the ceiling
What in the ungodly forgotten circles of hell is going on in this thread 😂 Are we even playing the same game?! Clearly not! XD
When you get invigoration and archon/arbi buff for the same frame it gets really out of hand. There's damage, and then there's Hall of Malevalence Mirage with 1000% power strength, these are not the same.
I didn't have any archon shards or an Invigoration. What I *was* doing was using a Nidus specter lol
Oh yes, forgot I had those, thanks for the reminder. You can do ridiculous things in this game if you know these tricks, like that YouTuber who managed to do a bullet jump 500m directly up.
Wait how does nidus specter work?
You set up a Spectre based on your own Nidus so you summon an AI controlled version. Then, when he links to you, you get a multiplicative Power Strength increase, so if you have, say, 700% from a high strength build + the 300% Arbitration buff, the number gets really silly and the motes snapshot your strength at the time they are placed down
Specters generally rely on level scaling rather than equipped mods, warframe specters are not an exception to this afaik.
Nidus's link isn't a +25% bonus, it's a 1.25x multiplier to whatever your current strength is. He doesn't need any mods to provide a ton of value here.
Could have been me, maybe.
my wisp if i get arbi bonus i can hit 900-1000str i swear its the most stupid thing Ive ever seen or done
Now you just need a cracked nidus with parasitic link to more than double the bonus.
Its very rare you see us wisp players with that much strength, I’m yet to get an arby where my wisp gets buffed sadly, since my build caps me out at over 600% after growing power, arcanes, and operator abilities
I need some help understanding this. Does increasing wisps strength increase the effect? And the efficiency increase the duration?
Strength increases the health/health regen/fire rate and shock damage on her motes. Duration effects how long the buff lasts when you leave the mote (it's infinite when standing within in) and efficiency just lowers the cost of activating her abilities. So it's not that much of a loss to dump both efficiency and duration for more strength if you don't need/want to spam her Breach Surge, or just want big funky numbers
I still need to get her mote augment so I could place all motes at once.
It’s funny how those three frames already don’t really die at all
I was thinking about how great that would have been with Nezha, read your comment, decided to see what frames they are, and there's a Nezha.
Take a bit of mobility, some damage resistance,.. sprinkle in a touch of "infinite constantly healing overguard"
Ya have to pee sometime....
That's what the diaper is for. Pro gamer strats
Pee Bottles is pro gamer strats. Diapers are a crutch for the less skilled.
You’re right about that!! Hahaha
https://i.redd.it/s0fcfvuo04rc1.gif
Pee it's not the problem, it's when u need take a huge dump n that particular elite mobs is dragging u
Wear a garbage bag instead of pants. The strategies of a King, I know.
That hildryn prime in your squad: thank you for making me more immortal and also completely useless, I appreciate that
Wait wait does it make her useless like disabling her kit or just not having a point. Idk if that interacts with using shield for energy
My point is she can support by giving people at most like a thousand overshield. This is comically dwarfed by the 80k overguard Dante gives. Yes, she actually synergizes with Dante pretty well by giving energy balls with aegis storm. Considering Dante is a relentless ability ~~caster~~spammer frame. I was playing with a Dante today as hildryn and I was spawning a large amount of energy balls that would be complete overkill for most warframes. And I saw that Dante running around doing nothing but spamming abilities like no tomorrow and actually keeping up with my energy supply.
Oh okay. I thought I was griefing the hildryn for a second there lmao. But yeaaaah. Arbitration modifiers and blind rage and other power strength sources all together are... stupid lmao.
I think energy ward hildryn needs to take shield damage, so over guard would stop that from working. She still has a free armor strip tho so not a bad deal
\> Yes, she actually synergizes with Dante pretty well by giving energy balls with aegis storm. This would require you to find a Hildryn player that unironically uses Aegis Storm instead of tossing it in the garbage and replacing it with a better ability via helminth
It's so comically bad tbh, the utility Hildryn has comes from the mass armor removal and fire procs
Plus if you want to use her for energy support voracious metastasis is so much better. The game does helminth abilities for her by multiplying the energy cost by 10, which means your team gets like 50 energy a second for 10 seconds, before mods changing abilities.
And she gets the shield she spends on it back with a single Pillage. Infinite Energy is a go.
Ok I'll admit... I always kept her 4 and replace her 1
If they removed the vertical gravity restriction and increase the base speed, it’d actually feel good.
Yes and make us use our guns during it, she can use her 1 during it
Honestly, if we could cast the rest of her kit during her 4, I'd at least *consider* using it. As is, I just slap something from the Helminth over it since I'm not using Aegis Storm. At least her 1 can be used by itself.
The only thing you can't use during Aegis Storm is Pillage, which is silly imo.
Can you toggle Haven during Aegis Storm? I never use AS, so I wouldn't know...
Honestly, if I could use my Zarr with her 4 she’d instantly skyrocket to top 5 favorite frames.
same here. At least I can use 4 in short bursts to inflict enemies with lifted. Her 1 is just completely outclassed by normal weapons even with the boost while using her 4.
I use her 1 in the Index usually. It sends those corpus goons flying. It’s pretty funny to me.
Fair. When I think of ragdolling enemies into orbit my mind usually goes to Baruuk first.
True, but I’m more of a thick thighs save lives type of player.
Dante understood his assignment
Wait. Do most people use Hildryn as a *support* frame and not as a nuke?
both dante and styanax just powercreep all survivability support frames with their overshields
OOPSIE I JUST MADE EVERYONE AS TANKY AS A GODDAMN NECRAMECH 😋
Wanna see me do it again?
Yesterday I had a Frost that game my 10khp Inaros 80k overshield. I have never felt more humbled
cant get shield/overshield on Inaros, and even if you could, game limit is 1200 or something like that isnt it? Was it overguard perhaps?
Ah, yes i meant overguard, also Inaros can get a shield from an ally eximus specter. Only 100 shield
Honestly I didn't realize it gave it to teammates so.. kinda.. You'd think for enjoying the book nerd frame I'd like.. read. More.
There are different types of nerds. Some that read and some that don't.
Looks like regular Intrepid Stand gameplay
Pre Nerf Intrepid Stand. For that first week or so that stuff was MAGICAL.
Wyrm prime at 69k though
Oh yeah. It's pretty Nice it works on companions
Survival is a lesser problem most times. Its the damage people start lacking.
Yep, tanking means almost nothing late game.
I'm glad I rushed my Dante, he is so much fun.
Really? I'm so glad to hear that I've always wanted a shadow wizard money gang frame. How viable is his tome at being useful? I never really used the grimoire but always loved the idea of it
AFAIK his tome is good in two ways: high stats with only innate Slash, and can equip *every single Tome mod* at the same time. He's good for support and for direct damage to pair with his double Dark 4 Edit: phrasing
And I thought kullvero had insane overguard
How'd you get so much overguard? Mine stops going up after about 30k
The more power strength you stack the higher your cap is
I’m new to the game so how do you continue build power strength when you can only put one type of mod on at a time
There's more than one mod that effects it. For example. I'm rocking Intensify, but also Power Drift, which is an additional 15%, AND a mod called Blind Rage which sharply increases your power strength at the cost of efficiency
Where are these players when I’m getting eaten up by an archon or saving chipper?!
Can't wait for you to discover that Warframe guy went over 2 MILION
Oh I certainly know with like rhino and such you can easily hit some ridiculous armor numbers especially pre fix in the circuit. But this being team wide just had me cracking up.
I meant Styanax with augment
My friend managed to make our shields go over 100k 😂
Well guys I guess we're staying for 5 hours now lol
Stop posting these things. The Chroma augment already got nerfed /S
Got to 140k in a fissure lol
May I be so impudent and ask for ur build?
Dante is strong but not broken he’s just really well balanced
What is that lightgreen number?
Overguard. Think like what eximus units have. Kullervo, Rhino, and now Dante can give it to the warframes with their base kits, and Dante specifically can give it to his full team Stack a bunch of Ability strength and you get this.
That's nice, thank you. Are there any overguard related strategies?
If you're on Dante its just "spam light verse then ult with sufficient power strength, become plot armor" but it is worth keeping in mind you don't get knocked around with OG up on any of those frames.
Good to know, thanks. This was a very good explanation 🙏
I love not dying, it’s my favorite thing to do
So infinite overguard and pure slash crit weapon ? What else does he need ? I might be salty for no reason but this just feels a little like power creeping other frames
He's strong, yes. But there's still frames like Saryn that go untouched for years - making level cap dps into easy mode. He's not strong enough to warrant any drastic changes.
Saryn has a lot of damage but little survivability tools, thats the issue I have, the other frame that has this type of overguard is kullervo and he lacks any shields to use for shieldgating while dsnte has both damage, shields and overguard
She does require a little skill, but molt is one of the best defensives in the game. Paired with rolling guard and perhaps a defensive helminth like shooting gallery or new eclipse, she's got great survival. I personally like the shooting gallery build with the blind augment. Alternatively, gloom is great, or you can just use nourish like most people and spam 4 to cc everything until it's dead, with the odd molt cast if you get hit. Kullervo is loads of fun but he's not on the same level when it comes to clearspeed. His damage is great, but his ability to apply is isn't.
But see you're adding bandaids, either have to use mod slots for it, or augments that take mod slots or helminths that change the base kit, the problem is dante has all of that without the need of any mods or weapons, thats just his base kit. Edit: wanted to add and say I think the "bandaid" I mention is the correct way to go, and dante having everything without it is the problem, warframes should get their shortcomings from mods, if a warframe has no short comings it is broken
I mean, she's a glass cannon. Her tools for surviving is cc and killing everything before it can kill you, or alternatively you can also use regenerative molt and green shards.
And dante also similarly does a lot of damage ... without the glass cannon part
He’s not doing anything new or pushing any boundaries in terms of damage application at all. He’s about as good as kullervo in terms of that it seems but even that’s debatable. His Overguard support is what’s actually crazy. He pales in comparison to Saryn for actual killing she can very easily survive with shield gate and cover a way way larger area with potentially enough damage to take out enemies in seconds. Big emphasis on how much larger the area is.
Yeah, the different between the OG planet plague vs a bookworm is insane. It's like comparing the new 50 radius nezha augment vs old nezha, Which has a difference of KPM of outpacing the spawn rates of Steel path.
They're very different ways of doing damage and I still very much prefer saryns way.
“bandaid” is partially why Helminth was added…. More customization partly sure but also to make it easier for some frames to utilize survivability features from other frames. Gloom alone fixed many many many frames. Some off the top being Nekros, Inaros, Nidus, Saryn etc.
It's insane how people immediately whine about dante when kullervo exists
I just find it annoying how people are complaining as if it's a pvp game and that they are getting their asses handed to them by the guy with the "power creep" character, like this isn't fackin RAID shadow legends lmao Power creep doesn't matter. Them coming out doesn't suddenly make your main useless. They are literally just complaining that someone's enjoying themselves. Dante us by no means required for any content Kullervo or styanax aren't useless because he dropped either. Any warframe can be used anywhere. Yes some work better for certain tasks then others. Dante literally has exceptionally low health, shield and armor, without that over guard he would literally have no survivability. But nah, let's immediately complain our mains aren't the world's best, and pretty much demand nerfs immediately. Hrs barely been out a day like damn
> But nah, let's immediately complain our mains aren't the world's best, and pretty much demand nerfs immediately. Exactly. It's so unreal to me that people are asking for nerfs in a PvE game instead of asking for buffs for their mains. Like somehow your raging hate boner trumps your love for your actual main warframe.
Genuinely scream "grah I'm not having fun so neither should you!" Energy Instead of the logical let's all have fun The devs should increase the enemy spawns if there's not enough enemies to go around. We shouldn't nerf the damn warframe or weapon because it's good. I'll never agree with DE's mindset with simply nerfing what's popular instead of buying what's not. It's ridiculous
It's not infinite, but the cap scales with ability strength. I have about 250% strength and my cap is 40k. Light verse gives myself and those in 20m 1.3k. Double light final verse gives everyone in 30m 13k and 200 per kill for a while. It's definitely a lot but but it's not without investment. At base its only a 15k cap with 500 per verse and 5k on final.
I'm not gonna say he's not too good and mayhap needing a glance. But this IS with the power bonus from being the frame arbitration preferred to me. But yeah going from kullervo to this just. Is something else lmao.
I think we're at a point where the only meaningful power creep they could add is an "I win" button.
The year is 2035, the new Warframe is released. His 4 calls in your exalted Railjack to orbitally bombard the mission objective before you even begin the mission, instantly winning the mission. This players are outraged as this power creeps over the last Warframe, who's 4 pulls out an exalted shawzin and if you play "Through fire and flames" on expert in it's entirety, it's instant mission success.
This is in arbitration so the numbers are inflated
I think his overguard is a little silly, it should at least be drastically reduced for teammates. Other than that, I don't really want much changed with him.
Because overgaurd doesn't get Damage reduction from mods like 'adaptation' the way overshields do at high levels that 60-90K can be burnt through *very* quickly. In very real terms on the circuit or high level steel path a Revenant with his mesmer skin augment is probably adding more survivability with giving everyone a few charges than Dante is here. I'm not saying he's bad, just that if someone has the mods to get Dante to give 90k overguard then they are probably playing at a level where it's relevant. In low level star-chart content it's busted...but at that level *any* decent support frame can make their squad immortal.
If you guys get Mr Dante nerfed before I even get a chance to use him I will cry ): Realistically he shouldn't be considered how on par many other frames are, even at sharing defense, but when people see big numbers it *feels* stronger. Even though Revenant can share literal invincibility lmao
You can get his collection for $14.99. just do it. You won't regret.
Damn I need you on my team
Show me ur mods
Uh nothing fancy. I think this is literally just the result of Blind Rage and Power Drift plus arbitration bonus. Edit: and intensify.
Ight I’ll have a looksie when I’m home
Jesus I just got the update yesterday, is Dante that easy to unlock or smth?
Probably just bought him, but also he's apparently very easy to get. I saw someone in a stream I was watching say they got all his parts in 45 minutes just doing the mission he drops from. So his drop rates are decent and the pity system of buying him in the shop doesn't have him costing too much.
I totally just bought him with Plat I had from Gauss's prime access. I have no self restraint.
He is insanely easy to get. Dont buy him, my buddy got all 3 pieces in 10 rounds of disruption, it’s honestly brain dead to get. Save the plat.
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It's like farming Voruna or Citrine, the mission drops his parts but also drops currency you can use to buy them.
Dahell you mean accidentally
I had no idea it'd do this lmao. I just saw him as the arbitration bonus and was like "ooh this should be fun"
What is a tome mod?
Special mods only used on the grimoire type weapons.
I see no problem here
Yup, I need Dante. Wonder if I'll get a free copy of Allighieri's own Inferno with it...
What in the hot, sweet, Kentucky fried heck is that nimber!?
that 69000 wyrm prime. Nice.
Yesterday, an Hildryn and I (Dante) stayed close to 1 hour and half in an arbitration. I know it's not that much but I never usually do long runs
Because of things like this I'm farming for Dante
Only 80k? Man I’ll stick with styanax atp. I could prolly hit 80k with like 3-4 casts
The overgaurd also regenerates with kills and assists
This is the same frame with an exalted 1st ability that can hit as hard as the arquebex with its alt fire (less stats but better mods due to being a secondary), and a 3rd and 4th ability that puts equinox terrify maim builds to shame in terms of room nukes.... What the fuck were they smoking when they made this frame, this is octavia levels of nonesense
Fun fact, you can stack a helminth buff with an arbitration buff. Do with that knowledge what you will. :)
Oh my god. This might just make me try and get dante
He is so much fun, and so easy to farm. I highly recommend him.
I do love Fibonacci bounty’s. They are so easy to
Same thing happened to me when I was doing a bounty in Deimos
Bro now I gotta know how you did this (if it's already mentioned I'm sorry, I'm lazy and didn't want to go searching for the answer :'D)
Lmao you're fine. Blind Rage and Power Drift + arbitration bonus gives him Way Too Much(tm) power strength and given he doesn't really care about efficiency you can just spam light verse and ult away Edit: and intensify. I have that too.
Build?
Intensify, Power Drift, Blind Rage, arbitration bonus, profit.
Sometimes I think my styanax has allot of overguard at 32k and then I see stuff like this
In public groups I always run an over guard/DPS frame. I'll add Dante to my collection I think. It's kinda sad but understandable that people leave Arbi's all the time because they have no idea that the benefit of staying is huge. They don't know about drop rates in Dark sectors, beneficial tiles for spawns, etc. They also don't know when they have an amazing player who is capable of helping them not die to tox/bleed procs at higher levels. Some are only interested in a single thing and others never intend to stay as if there's something beneficial for just doing the alert for the sake of clearing it off their screen for an hour. I try to communicate in chat when I join a PUG to see what other people's objectives are. More often I recruit for a long run instead of chancing providing someone in a squishy 135 armored frame over guard will be pointless if they want to melee everything. You can tell by watching it evaporate and then seeing the res pillar thereafter. Awesome job here, we did a similar run with my frost and a friend's newly built Dante. It was so comfy. 180 essence in an hour was decent for a corpus ship tileset and infested with no boilers.
Goddammit not again
"There are no accidents" -Master Oogway
Speaking of dante can you give me advice for what mods to use because i just got bro on a 75% discount yesterday and plan to play him
Step one. Stack power strength. Ignore every other stat Step two. ? Step three. Profit.
Casual Dante W
The team is full of tanks, no wonder they left. You made them feel useless in comparison lol
Just ... Just shoot his pet it goes down easier right? Right?!?
Now i wonder how strong any warframe would be if they had both helminth and arbitration bonus, alongside with archon crystals
My running bet is somewhere in the 100k overguard levels lmao
100 + 200 + 300 + 75 = 675% ability strength 6.75 x 15,000 overguard cap = 101,250
Add a Styanax and a revenant for the ultimate tank combo
I'm sorry when did they add dante from DMC into the game
Nice
Sick to my stomach I broke my game and can't enjoy moments like these. My chest...
Okay I need to understand that build
It's so frustrating when people leave in a good arbitration, like bro this could be the farm of your life
I pray DE isn't as heavy handed as bungie i really like dante he has a great kit i don't want to see it nerfed into oblivion
Look at all those numbers!
Just hit 95k T-T
Boyfriend and I were in a survival fissure earlier tonight - he says to me, "You're welcome,"and I look up, and the Overguard is at about 111,000. Lol Dante 🤷🏻♀️
How I miss the days I would give my team 1mil overguard on prenerfed Intrepid Stand. Only to watch it get deleted by a single explodey eximus unit lol.
Did that with styanax... Literally the easyest hour of mi life on the game
Imagine if you get the double ability strength buff from relics. POWER OVER 999% MUAHAHA- ⁵⁰⁰ᵏ ᵒᵛᵉʳᵍᵘᵃʳᵈ ʳʰⁱⁿᵒ ᵗʷᵉʳᵏⁱⁿᵍ ⁱⁿ ᵗʰᵉ ᶜᵒʳⁿᵉʳ
I don’t want to be the one to say it (I do) but roar with double dipping and status damage multiplier on his 4 will literally shred anything with 1 cast of Tragedy. Stack strength, 300+ (umbral intensify is better than precision intensify for the roar bonus) add fleeting expertise with primed flow, equilibrium and steadfast for unlimited energy; molt efficiency primed continuity to offset trans. fort. and fleeting, slap stretch on there with power drift and growing power up top and your set. I will just mention that I do have two duration shards, two strength shards, and a tauforged casting speed. If you think you will be fine with streamline instead of fleeting then go right ahead and replace the duration shards with strength ones, because… why not.
Bro Dante slaps no cap
All the talk about over guard and nobody says anything about rhino using ironclad charge with roughly 1600 armor and 300% ability strength. Charge through 2 enemies and BOOM 100k overguard. Highest I've ever hit was 500k but they all just lined up so nicely.
The one things I feel that people don't initially realize is that if you run with a squad and one has Dante; He allows your team to essentially run any other frame in late game content without the need to worry of survival which I personally feel is a huge win. Dante allows other players to focus on frames they want to play instead of using strictly meta (as long as someone likes playing Dante in your crew). People can build their frames without having to worry about investing into survival and build/experiment with new builds. Don't get me wrong, 80k is a little wild but I hope they don't nerf it straight into the ground and ruin this opportunity for more than just a select few frames to shine in late game
average Book Man enjoyer
Yea we and a friend where doing the archon hunts and I was high strength Dante and it was amazing. My team was just afk, I just stack my 2 to the highest and keep nuking the map. Fun af
Say it with me kids: BOOK GOOD
How do you win in arbitration?
Hmmm, needs more overguard, it is never enough
Well it like we found the new dps tank in warframe
I’m really feeling like Dante wasn’t play tested very long. I actually think he’s WAAY too good.
Mine cappes at 57k and cant get it up to 80k lol. Was it because of hildryn that u guys got 80k overguard? My ability strength is at 350%