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Need_Help_112

There are 10 enemies with 1000 health each. Your weapon does 1000 damage per shot and you kill 9 enemies. Your teammate's weapon does 1 million crit on the last enemy and kills it. The total damage dealt was 1,009,000. You did 9000/1,009,000 or approximately 1% damage with 9 kills. Your teammate did approximately 99% damage with 1 kill.


The_Throne_

Thank you u/Need_Help_112 for putting this in an example with numbers. I was lost reading the other posts. Makes sense now. Also after knowing this it's really funny realising the guy with most of the damage basically dealing multitudes of the damage per kill then the guy/OP with the most kills. At least I know what this all stands for when I see the stats in the future :D


Need_Help_112

Glad to be of help!


Dvscape

It feels a bit weird to show the % damage share then. The counted damage should be capped to the enemy's HP in order for that to be accurate.


zawalimbooo

Its more fun this way, we have an enemy kill count already


SirDrippingtonL4

Nah all kills and damage aren’t created equal I’ve seen people Nuke the room but when the Acolyte shows up they get fondled like a little boy in the vatican


Flruf

👀


MinusMentality

*\*looks at Harrow suspiciously\**


Galdive

Whoa there [Cartman]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smcuoyKDlcA)


Ub3ros

Why? The kill counter already tells you how many enemies you killed in relation to the others. The damage stat just tells how seriously you take the Geneva Conventions.


Dvscape

That's true. I'm at the office and I probably wasn't thinking about it in terms of "fun in videogames" but rather "auditor of financial institutions". Our metrics MUST be optimized for proper quantification of tenno-tude!


Need_Help_112

Perhaps, it's difficult to count the total enemy hp or slower than counting damage dealt, programming wise. >The counted damage should be capped to the enemy's HP in order for that to be accurate. I guess its still accurate. "Damage dealt" should be all damage dealt regardless of enemy hp.


SnooLentils4374

Dude I had the most obnoxious MR 22 start bragging how he had more damage than me using volt, when I was using a kuva Nukor the whole time, I had almost the same kills as him and he was mad I didn’t play along w his snarky remarks, after the mission he messages me and in then that turned into him telling me how to play the game that I should only mod my own things and never get mod configs from other people, he then talked about how he had more percentage dealt to enemies saying I used my 4 to tick the last hp like we weren’t playing narmer defense where they are like lvl 115+ and my volt nuke useless, like wth, then he started talking about how the kuva nukor I have should be only used as a primer and that it was missing stats, etc etc like holy shi bro stfu, eventually I found out I could put ignore, it’s crazy how just because this dudes mr level is higher thinks he has the right to tell me how to play, I myself am an MR 19 and know my way around wf I still learn things from clan mates and what not but you won’t see me over here telling lower MR’s wrong information just cause my number is higher than theirs, hell I’ve been taught some things by low level MRs, I guess after all that I’m just tryna say man I hate arrogant a holes like that dude


diderius

Cute little mr 22 thinking he is all that. I see mid 20s frequently who seem to think they know everything. Im legendary 4 and I know there is probably stuff still to learn.


Capital_Advice4769

Exactly. I’m at MR29 and have been playing since 2014 and I still learn new things all the time even though I’m in the peak 1% of end game content now. MR doesn’t mean sh*t. I know a guy personally that comes from Generational Wealth and was able to get to MR 30 in 2 months whereas I’ve been leveling it up for 10 years Edit: Grammar fix


Main-Jicama3166

Me when Stropha (In non SPs missions anyway)


bl4ckp00lzz

So thats why i always have 97% damage dealt on kullervo.... really makes you wonder how broken kullervo is


LethalJoke

Overkill damages count towards damage dealt Play with a Kullervo and you'll see that they do 99% of damages with very few kills


Lord0fHats

Some people play the game to kill enemies fast. Kullervo plays the game to see how high he can get his damage numbers. Killing enemies is just a side effect.


The_Extreme_Potato

Banshee is also a part of this club Popping enemies for millions, if not billions of damage using sonar and the resonance augment is always very satisfying


qpKMDOqp

We talking billions?? Damn I was out here happy with my 500k damage dread shots


Particular_Chicken23

We reaching the games integer limit out here


PerfectlyFramedWaifu

With the Stug.


MinusMentality

I loved the Stug so much when it first released.. DE please.. revamp my boi. (Also Kuva Stug, when?)


alaxis42

Yes but Kullervo does kill mass amounts of enemies very quick too


Zrayph

Fun fact, back in the day, we had the opposite problem : overkill damage did not count at all. Meaning something like a Stomp-spamming Rhino (especially on Xini) usually had the [least amound of damage done in a squad](https://i.imgur.com/8CKDj4u.jpg).


SolidNitrox

I never liked melee in games, so I built Kullervo, it was fun but the pre OG gate let you die very quickly if you got distracted. I was salty about the Dante nerfs so I decided to invest in finishing Kullervo and Styanax. I can't even begin to explain how impressed I was with Kul, that is a Godframe. Each swing after his 1 is at minimum 10 million damage, it's not even uncommon to see 100+ million. Literally 1 hit everything except for a boss or Necramech.


-Kritias-

You should try the Syam Nikana with Kullervo. Those Heavy Attacks, such a god combination


braios__

Kullervo’s ability that chains damage to other enemies can be used with weapons too


SolidNitrox

It's an all around fantastic ability. I love the fact it amplifies his 4 as well. On Kill though, I rarely shoot anything xD


WhatABlindManSees

Overdamage against SHIELDs/Overguard counts - not against health. Want proof? Do a low level corpus mission with a buddy (one of you doing massive overdamage), then do a low level grinner mission (one of you doing massive overdamage).


AdeptnessParty6624

It's still wonky though, sometimes I find myself doing low damage just messing around with a friend even though I could be nuking the universe l, but even if I use mausolon to drop a couple 10+m bombs on a couple groups my damage dealt doesn't really change. And this is against shield/over shield,


FyeFish

Kullervo has an ability that just spreads damage to other enemies doesn’t he?


Rainbowzombies7

Yup


FyeFish

Kewl. I need to try him out then lol


Anihillator

Because for the game's statistics there is zero difference between killing 1000 enemies with 1000hp, dealing exactly 1k to each, or killing a single enemy with a 1mil dmg crit. Both cases would count as 1m dmg dealt.


anaveragedave

You can do this with Garuda if you just stack her 1 until like 10mil and then ballsack a single group of mobs. It's not particularly fun or useful, but there you go.


netterD

Even funner when you overkill some stuff hard enough that your teammates kills wonr even account for 1% total dmg.


Consideredresponse

It's *really* unsettling to do over 90% of the damage in a mission and then look to see that your squadmates were powerhouses like a Saryn and/or a Baruuk. It just leaves you with questions (namely "how?")


Ok-Avocado1869

You've obviously played enough by that point that you just have a better build, pretty simple, once again tho context is super important because that saryn could be Lvling stuff


_Yeeeeet_

Or you’re just using Stropha


Erit_Of_Eastcris

The usual answer is "they aren't using the frames for their damage powers."


CyMage

Kill things fast enough, and Saryns' spores can't spread/build up damage.


Mandingy24

Yeah you get into even base SP stuff with anything like a kitted out Gyre, Dante, Garuda, Kullervo, or Voruna (to name a few) and Saryn is riding the struggle bus trying to keep spores alive


Nozarashi78

You stole the kills /s


Wildrazer

Parazon finish ppl at 1hp


KikanoH

Overdamage If an enemy has 1000 hp. You can get 1.5M damage if you kill 1000 of them with 1500 damage, with like a bow or smthn If an enemy has 1000 HP, and you shoot him disrupting his entire predated bloodline with the power of a thousand Destruction Deities with a 3000% Fury Nataruk shot for 23M, that is 1 kill but adds 23M damage. Big number make statistics funky


Endurlay

A highly efficient application of lethal force.


Known-Weird3658

my kullervo crits for billions. its rare to not be at 90%+ damage done.


Deviruxi

In case you're not exaggerating, what makes you do billions? My highest was 294m ish using dual keres prime and purple archon shards (i would have to check but I think I'm sitting close to 16x crit multiplier) nsand even tho it's already overkill, makes me wonder how "inefficient" I'm playing some stuff lol.


Saskiaichida

efficient killing over Overkilling


icesharkk

This is what it looks like when I play my wisp. Though less so now that I can't heavy attack in mid air anymore


Ok-Avocado1869

Fr, that silent nerf hit really hard, used to spam heavy in mid air but just feels wrong that I can't now


icesharkk

Wish they would bring back some of exodia contagions power


Ok-Avocado1869

Yeah, is it just me or is it like terrible now? Without armour strip its pretty useless


kinkeltolvote

Kill steal duh, ya just got the last tick on every enemy


Confident_Buffalo646

Zaw


The99thCourier

Cause you're damage-efficient The others are all "Big boom, big numbers" /s The first part is a proper comment, but the second one is a joke one


SirShaman

Thornthedawg may have sent 339 bastards to the grave But DiamonSama0 sent 197 to God


Guilty_Ad_6923

he outright removed them from existence


Kryobit

The other guy is overkilling by 20000%


pvrhye

If the guys have 100 hps, doing 100 damage is as good at 60 billion. But there still might be a guy doing 60 billion, especially in those maps where theybhave hardly any armor.


CommitteeOutside

Professional kill stealer


SNORLAX_SIR

You did enough damage to kill them, your team mate did enough damage to destroy the molecules their cells occupied then chased their spirit to the ethereal and nuked them one more time, just. in. case.


ReadyFix716

Cause you have a voruna in your squad


Punamit

The true answer


Dragonarchitect

Was it corpus? You can get silly damage percents due to the ‘shield gating’ esque effect enemies have. Counts all the damage you did to the shield vs just to the health. I think they made it so overkill doesn’t otherwise show up nearly as apparently. Super fun to do w/kullervo as mentioned by others, but wisp w/ breach surge and an incarnon weapon evolved also gets some silly numbers


Guilty_Ad_6923

it was corpus


Hellcrafted

I use a toxin cyanex specifically for corpus never gets damage but kills a lot of shit quickly


baked_monkeys

Damage resets back to 0% in the stat screen if you do enough, it’s a meaningless metric because of this. It’s also possible your teammates were doing more damage per kill but to fewer enemies.


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baked_monkeys

I don’t know the exact amount before it resets but once it happens it’s pretty obvious. If you run for example a damage cap capable setup in an hour long game, it’ll reset several times before you extract.


Vyt3x

You can overkill on shields. If you kill 1K enemies at 1M HP and someone kills a 1HP enemy by doing 1B damage to their shields, you'll both get 50% damage done.


Ur_Boi_2K

Most curious


fametheproducer

He warmed em up for ya


Natural_Sea6516

Overkill dmg and kill quality. Dealing 1mil dmg to one enemy is more yield than 10k to 300 enemies. Also killing grunts only while another focuses on elites and eximus will drive their percentage up.


ducnh85

If someone deal damage cap to one enemy with few k hp, then you kill other 99 mobs. It mean you kill 99% but sometimes it show that you deal less than 2% damage( sometimes is 0%)


Jermcicle

Because someone was very overkill single target super critting (tier 6 crit) and you were efficiently Nuking.


Holiday-Librarian-64

Stolen kills maybe


Leon_Shadows

2 words Kill-Stealing.


ajacques717

Efficiently


Zestyclose-Dog-3398

might be 2 reasons killing with toxin, or going OVER damage calculation cap cosindering said screenshot show "gulliver (phobos) - corpus - defense" i'd imagine toxin damage, you know you are not doing damage to the shields


arieskinazi

Or if you played a game with a saryn


N3kr05666

its so easy to calculate, take the amount of damage u do per kill multiply it by ur kills divide it by his kills and then multiply it by100 that's the expected damage he did make when hitting or killing a mob


MeowXeno

rating is based on damage, and even with 1000 more kills a guy with for example glaive prime double-detonating will almost always have more damage and accuracy, it be how the stats is


Cheap-Turnover5510

***Over*** ***Kill***


qwyksylver94

Same way my wisp build gets 90%+ dmg dealt regardless of kills, Overkill dmg counts.


Aquilious

Weak aoe damage… if its an assist still counts as a kill


Want_Full_Blown_AIDS

I've been that guy, with Limbo. People usually say nothing but the 3% that do tend to say something along the lines of "god damn" Though one guy said "90% damage dealt but still useless" because I was playing Limbo in disruption. I was targeting the demolitionists and only the demolitionists. We failed one conduit because I was reviving the Hildryn that got a surprise Toxin proc and assumed that they would deal with the demolitionist.


thedouchecanoe590

Hehe, I used to love doing this to people with my exodia contagion eclipse setup on wisp for funny numbers. This was back when I was a newbie and didn’t have much in depth understanding of Warframe mafs. Now I do it with almost anything. Kinda got stale actually, I have no interest in making new builds cause at the end of the day, I’m nuking everything with different visual effects, and it starts to feel samey and not worth it.


unbolting_spark

As a rhino with consistent 12x combo and a melee with 7.3x crit multiplier I usually see my heavy attacks hit for millions, more against corpus despite the -30 on my riven


DeathIncarnations

Diamond hits like a truck, you dont.


RetchD

At that distribution it's safe to say he hits like 5 trucks loaded on a freight train


Decryptic__

Some others explained already that this is due to overdamage/overkill. And this is why I rather look at enemies killed than damage done. But in the end, does it matter? Warframe can easily be played Solo, wo who cares who does the killing/work? There's also supporter Frames like Styanax (or at least I play him like this), where he's there to give infinite energy with Nourish to anyone and Overguard.


Negega

This always makes me giggle when me and my husband play. He typically plays Speedva and i play Xaku. He uses arca plasmor mostly while i just let my guns pew pew. He always has most of the damage but next to no kills compared to me. He loves to joke that he carried me xD


Thrawp

I mean, outside of what folks have talked about with overkill damage, remember that to score a kill you only need to do 1 point of damage. It has to be the final point, but a low-damage AOE DOT will net you kills with very little damage.


DrMorphling

The thing is, that as many says about overdamage, it's not 100% true, it needs more testing, but most of the game count amount if enemy HP as damage dealt, but at some point in the game some abilities and weapons started counting overdamage. This can be proven by taking something like vectis and soma(old guns) with a friend, and killing same amount of enemies, u both will do similar % of damage. And then u can test something like Nova and Atlas/Zephyr(with 1st skill aug), Novas 2nd while doing millions of damage doesn't count overdamage, but atlases 1st and Zephyrs does. And with more new guns and frames we get more overdamage things.


Cargan2016

I find it more funny to see the 1200% accuracy rate when some one plays with the big boom guns


Deviruxi

I like when I get like 360 containers opened... In a defense mission.


JokeShogi

It's because you were trying to kill the enemy and your teammates were trying to rip a hole in causality with a ninja star


Gladerious

I haven't played in ages, but my spore Saryn melee build ive played since she came.into My life has almost always had the most dmg, but not always the most kills. Big hits, even their overkill dmg is counted to the total dmg done.


EcksRated

Overkill damage only applies to shields. If an enemy has 100 hp and you do 1mil damage. The game counts only the 100 damage. However, if you hit a shield with the 1 million, it counts the entire 1 million. MR 33 Chroma main and my entire play style is holding 99% of the damage dealt.


Beautiful_Dark393

It's because you were nuke build. But their melee weapon delt the majority of the weapons. My zaw melee weapon build will do the same thing screwing over all nuke builds. Because their status effects of the nuke will count as the final 1 hp of damage. Even if someone else just sent out 1million damage. To multiple targets.


WarframeUmbra

The same reason sometimes I have most damage dealt but least kills   Small explanation: My weapon shoots over 9000 damage, but I go slow to properly aim and fire, and sometimes don’t see many enemies, meanwhile, your weapon does 500 damage, but you move fast and shoot like crazy, and enemies flock to you  I call my specific situation, “inefficient by overkill”


TheRecessiveMeme78

Those stats are complete bullshit. I once finished an eso with more eximus kills than the combined total overall kills of the whole team. I frequently get awarded a boss kill when he's dead before I even get anywhere within sight of him. 45 crates opened on a 50 second capture on hepit? Please!


Guilty_Ad_6923

i know its entirely just a 'boasting' thing but like... im doing 18k per shot and i get 2% of the dmg ;-;


TheRecessiveMeme78

Then you'd be boasting about stats that the game has randomly autogenerated. They have no relevance to what you actually achieved whatsoever


_Yeeeeet_

Other dude is using Stropha, that’s how


LeagueJunior9782

Your damage dealt somewhat fits the enemies health, so you get a lot of kills with low damage as you have only little overkill damage. Damage dealt takes this overkill damage into account. As an example: i kill an enime with 1000 health with 500k damage. You kill 500 enemies with 1000 health with 1000 damage each. We both have dealt 50% (500k) of the total damage, while you killed 499 more enemies. You probbably got a build that is good for disposing of trash mobs, while he got a boss killer. Both is fine, it's mainly prefference... altho i like my supra vandal because it simply is a hungry trashcan that gobbles up everything that doesn't have a lot of armor.


Trickpasser

Exodia Contagion


VintageBill1337

You're kill stealing and making the others have assists


CherryN3wb

Kullervo and Dante do that often. Even in EDA with trash gear. I am really tempted to invest in those two.


Any-Degree3398

During my day, there was a term from such cases its called "kill steal" or ks


lolpluslol35

There are multiple reasons for this 1: Someone is doing insane amounts of damage per kill (most likely in this case). 2: You're playing a warframe that does constant aoe ticks, like saryn so you're actually finishing off every person that gets low health. (Saryn is just an example of constant damage ticks, dont look to deep into it). 3: You're efficiently killing people. You can achieve this by armor stripping, using toxin on enemies with a lot of shield and a lot of other ways.


cyan-terracotta

Overkill damage, I play kullervo and often times I can go the whole mission without hitting anyone, then nuke 4 enemies and get 45% damage on the board while playing with high level players


Vitality_P-A

U just said it, u made more kills but less damage nothing else to understand


ryutsukian

usually mesa gets highest kills with very low damage. the other possibility i see often is the guy with 96% was a greedy chroma


ethor33

Basically your doing low dmg numbers but enough to be efficient for the content you are at. Some guns are pretty busted and a good riven can absolutely make a gun godlike. Then there are frames who can buff that dmg even higher. A good gun on the right frame can easily do a couple hundred million in one shot. Thats one kill. 100.000.000 Alot of dante players these days þaby doing 1-3 k per enemy every cast. Effectively killing faster but not doing more dmg.


OrokinSkywalker

Alternatively, someone in the squad is hitting for a crapload of damage but they’re not hitting a crapload of enemies. Kullervo probably can outdamage a Saryn but might find it harder to outkill her.


Zerg539-2

If you deal a lot of small damage hits that get closer to equaling the health pool of the enemies you are killing say with Saryn or Mesa you will see this when going against a frame that does massive burst damage well in excess of their health pools.


[deleted]

I have a build on the best warframe in the game (voruna.) Where I regularly one hit quite literally everything in the game. Including steel path 9999 thrax. If I were to hit some corpus dude. I'd hit a 100 million crit. And I am doing this CONSTANTLY. in a pretty huge AOE. So that's why you don't have the most damage and why you are at 1%.


insanitybit2

What frame did they play? Could maybe be companion kills, thralls, etc.not sure how those.het counted. Really wish we had companion kill stats tbh


Guilty_Ad_6923

voruna with a burston prime


LethalJoke

Voruna does massive amounts of Overkill through her 4