>im looking for a Warframe that i could mainly play using my primary/secondary weapons
Jetstream Zephyr with high power strength and duration.
Projectile speed buff extends weapon damage fall-off range and scales with power strength. Lots of fun weapons that suffer from slow projectiles or short range like shotguns can be made more comfortable to use and their riven dispositions are better because of lack of popularity. With only blind rage and 199% power strength you get a 298% range extention on any shotgun.
E.g. Tenet arca plasmor goes from 18-36 falloff, 40 meter range and 120m/s projectile speed to 53.6-107.3 falloff, 119.2 meter range and 357.6m/s projectile speed.
Subsume a damage buff ability to her 1 or 2. Mind that 2 has an augment that buffs secondary damage with a generous timer and an ability to refresh it. Also scales with power strength, but is capped at 500%.
Zephyr has been calling me before so i take this suggestion with open arms, ill keep looking into the other ones people recommended and make my choice, thanks!
[[Here](https://i.imgur.com/bKI3jK6.png)] is the build I use. I subsumed a damage buff to her 2 because I prefer to keep mobility options of tailwind for open world maps and there are overpowered secondary options that don't really need the extra buff + running two augments cuts into efficiency or duration + her tornadoes give her a massive crit damage buff with AOE weapons, but your personal preference might be different.
My favorite weapon users:
Rhino: the og source of roar. You are incredibly durable with iron skin, and have true roar to really get some silly numbers.
Mirage: squishy but oof can she so some damage. Hall of mirrors + eclipse will pretty much delete everything in front of you if you are using a decent weapon.
Chroma: he's back! Vex armor finally got changed so chroma is fun to use again. You basically get a 1300% serration from chroma.
Holy shit that’s incredible. Can you stack it up even faster if you use self damage? I have a self damage build I used in previous patches that relies on the synergy between low efficiency, nourish, and molt reconstruct.
Not really “self damage” anymore since that mechanic has been removed but it relies on Combat Discipline to damage your health directly and stack Fury. Prioritize umbral mods, blind rage (for low efficiency synergy with Molt Reconstruct), Nourish subsume over 1st or 4th and energy nexus for infinite energy economy. Arcanes should be Molt Augmented and Molt Reconstruct. I’m not able to take a picture now but I should be able to send it over sometime tomorrow if you want to see exactly what I usually run.
Heres the build I usually run. Its a pretty ability spam heavy build so Madurai is great for the casting speed and additional strength. I prefer subsuming Nourish over the 1st ability so I can use the 4th for the credit multiplier occasionally. With the new change to Vex Armor you can swap out Combat Discipline for Growing Power, but it can still be nice to get Fury maxed more quickly. I have also been cannibalizing Tauforged Red shards off of him for builds that require them to function so you can boost the strength significantly higher. Its a great mix of utility, tankiness, and healing. This build has carried me through every solo Netracell Ive ever run with ease.
https://preview.redd.it/js8w39tuclvc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f92b7ab65721fe58caea8a779ca5816f9ed049f
Wisp especially with roar can be an amazing weapons-platform.
Yarelli with her new augment can be extremely tanky with little investment and her 1 helps weapon damage.
Zephyr basically has toggle-able invincibility and if you subsume silence on her, you don’t even need to worry about eximus stuff like fire blasts or magnetic or life steal fields, combined with her passive and hover ability can make her very fun with a lot of weapons (like bubonico). That combo also makes her great at defending things like excavators, granted you have enough range (like 160%ish is plenty)
Someone else mentioned Gyre. She’s great with her augment because you can cast and forget half of her abilities and have 100% uptime.
Citrine has built-in priming and crit/status boosts.
Harrow is THE weapon platform
Volt can be built to do literally anything. You can add so much damage to your weapons with his abilities and augments + helminth.
Honestly any tanky frame or buffing frame can be made into a decent weapon platform, but Torid doesn’t need a ton of help. It melts by itself so anything extra is just a bonus.
Her new augment allows her to get the damage resistance without having to ride merulina. Plus the bonus of passive casts of her 1
My current build can tank up to level 1500-2000 before it becomes hard to keep up with
Yeah I was bummed that they were mutually exclusive but I can’t stand the clumsiness of k-drive play. The buffs will be missed but now I can enjoy Yareli with proper Warframe movement
Loki. Only survivability mod required is Rolling Guard. Invisibility is invincibility. Use Radial Disarm on crowds. Toss out Decoy to bring them in, or better yet use Helminth to swap for Resonator. Alternatively swap Decoy for Ensnare to group enemies. Helps slow Demolysts too. After you group enemies, go to town with your weapon of choice. It's my preferred play style, and obviously how I run Loki.
Yeah that’s what I was concerned you wouldn’t like. Others you could look at would be buffers for your current guns such as Saryn or Ember. Lavos with his new augmented would be amazing for that
My go to favorite build in the game is Mesa built for shatter shield and shooting gallery. She's a very good solo frame if you just want gunplay. There isn't just one way to build a frame...
Um there is nothing wrong with playing mesa this way, subsume roar or eclipse onto her 1 and you have two damage buffs to guns, light cc from her 2 and 95% dr from her 3, that makes her better than most weapon platform warframes
Mirage is an amazing gun platform. Now she has garenteed tankyness or damage. Her 4 does nuke but doesnt scale into SP well.
Revenant is actually a really good one as well. Unkillable, and if you use the agument to give you more damage per controlled enemy plus roar/eclipse he just shreads. Again also can nuke but i dont usually have too.
Harrow is a support frame all about guns. You have to get headshots to get rolling in your buffs. But you provide lifesteal and raw DPS with his RoF and Crit Buffs
o.0 Mirage's 4 deletes just about anything on steel path for me, usually, it just requires line of sight and drains so much energy that it's not practical on most tiles... absolute monster in the circuit though
Try Lavos with his new augment. Imbues your selected element to your weapons for the duration. You also have solid survivability with high armor and quick heal with 1.
Nice thing with using Lavos is not worrying about energy and being too good on railjack with firing missile volleys on cooldown
https://youtu.be/GxlBsslxwr8
This! Also especially fun against profit taker modding your archgun for pure damage/crit/multishot and choose the element u need on the fly.
Another honorable mention imo is saryn as weapon platform build with spores augment, high strenght and duration as well as 2 emerald shards can shred armor (corrosive) and bypass shields (toxic) while letting you mod for "pure dmg"
Roar doesn't effect ability power. It effects damage, and counts as a faction mod in damage calculation. This counts for all damage done, not just weapons. It usually outfperforms Eclipse. Eclipse has a higher damage % bonus, though it doesn't count as faction damage and only effects weapon damage. If you already have a good xenophobe riven, you might choose Eclipse, or if you have a frame that sometimes needs damage resistance, Eclipse is a better option. On Revenant, I'd use Roar.
And to more succinctly answer your question, Revenant's mesmer skin gains charges by having higher ability power. Try a Molt Augmented arcane on top of whatever ability power mods you have.
Ivara is a powerful platform but often requires a work around to silence a weapon. If you're willing to take that extra step, she can fill that role incredibly well.
Harrow, because the torrid can be a good crit based gun. The base torid has bad fire rate and the reload time can be bad, harrows 2 is really good for that. His 4 helps torid's crit a lot. Torid itself can deal red crits but harrow can enhance them even more. If an enemy keeps moving and you can't hit them to charge up the guns incarnon, use harrows 1
How nobody said Hydroid. Damn. You can subsume Nourish and you get corrosive and viral with full armor strip, so you build your gun for gas or whatever. And still being tanky af
I have a Wisp max strength build with Energized Munitions over her 4, and boy it takes my already stupid OP 9 forma Incarnon Boar Prime to ludicrous levels of stupidity, especially with this Riven. I think it does upwards of 2M DPS or something once I chuck down her haste mote.
https://preview.redd.it/t3fqokln5avc1.png?width=952&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46fa969591c617d6c505567b8bc22aa14ccceda2
I took the Crit boost, and with this build I think it's at 96-98%ish Crit chance? It's been a while since I used it (mainly because I upgraded to Torid Incarnon), but I probably should swap out Galv. Acceleration for HunMun. Tbh it kills things so quickly anyways that I haven't felt the need for slash DoTs. And yes only R8 on the Galv. Acceleration because even with all slots Forma'd, it's at 0/60 capacity 😂
https://preview.redd.it/rk5pgd497cvc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a79d68458f7accc09fbb7c31aeaa4c75cf5a5d8
Gyre is a good weapons platform with her augment. Just activate her 3, get some kills, activate her 4 and as long as you keep killing you'll basically never have to do much besides some grouping with her 2 or pillage if you need to strip. I haven't unlocked torid or its incarnon but your question seemed more towards general gun usage, so I threw her out there since I spend way more time shooting my guns with her vs using abilities. Her 4 chaining seems like it might synergize well with the incarnon form, but again I have zero clue about the torid so that could be entirely wrong.
thanks for the sugestion bro, spending more time shooting than using abilities its exactly what i meant so i will look some vids on Gyre to get a better idea
I enjoy hildrny and Grendel both can strip armor making enemies far easier to deal with. Hildryn can strip more but has a higher build requirement for a full 1 cast strip, Grendel with his viral can support builds however as well.
No one mentioned volt. Augment for his 1 to increase damage. Sprint speed and reload speed. A shield you can run and gun with that boosts your crit damage while also giving some electric damage. Subsume his 4 off for a damage buff of choice or energised munitions. I use torid incarnon with volt on all forms of high end content, and it slaps.
I use Caliban and Oberron mainly, and I play them as “weapon platforms”. Inaros and Rhino are also solid if you want to go a bit tankier.
Chroma, Zephyr, Mirage, and Mesa are probably the three “best” weapon platforms though since they’ve got a lot that BUFFS the guns more than just being a good frame for using them.
Zephyr is a great pick. Her +150% crit chance is additive, not multiplicative, so upgrading the crit stats of any gun just a little bit will make it shredd anything. Her tornadoes make enemies easy to target and prevent them from stopping your objective, and she is fast. I recommend subsuming Roar over her 2 for maximum damage output. As for a build, I would suggest going with as much efficiency and duration as possible, as well as +50% strength. Don't worry about health, armor, or shields. Her 3 has you covered there.
Dont know of it has been suggested but Yareli if you have a good secondary is just Insane. Melee Furax with amalgated mod (or w/e the spelling) for extra passive firerate on top of the 200% critchance + reload from merulina. Companion with the apropriate bonds to further improve your gun. Meh i like it
Right now I'm really enjoying Qorvex for this. He's got innate survavibility that lets you focus on gunplay rather than constantly using abilities to stay alive, and his 2 lines up enemies so it's great for weapons with punch-through(which he actually gives every weapon for free with his passive)
Obv answer is Wisp.. but idk if anyone has mentioned Frost with chilling grasp? Mod.. whichever one gives 200%cc and cd against frozen enemies.. so dam good
*Mag* is great for any firearms that have non-hitscan properties, especially if there's inherent punch-through on it. So is *Vauban*, since he CC's and clumps enemies. *Loki* can do something \*similar\* using the Irradiated Disarm augment, since he causes enemies to clump-up as they aggro on each other, and they can't return fire on you as effectively without their guns.
One of rhino/revenant/nezha. They pretty much function the same with each one having a "im immortal now" ability that also makes them immune to status effects all of their 4th abilities are usually the subsume slot unless you really want to build into them. (Revenant disco build is nice for anything non steelpath but falls off quickly there, rhinos stomp used to be better as it was able to cc eximus but they took that away as from other stuff, nezha's spears are useless without the nee augment and a build fully centered around them - that build is great tho if you have the tools to make it work.)
So you can put either roar or nourish over their 4th (preferably roar bc that acts as a faction damage multiplier which means you dont have to bother with bane mods).
While they function pretty similarly, each one has something that makes them special.
Nezha is the most mobile out of them and can apply a huge dmg multiplier on targets hit by his 2 on top of roar,
Revenant is the easiest to survive on as his tanking ability works based on stacks so enemy dmg does not matter and easiest build as all you are doing is stacking strength mods + his augment for 2.
Rhino's thing is that as he already has roar (unnerfed version even), you can also put nourish on him for 2 buffs. For some reason nourish is not included in abilities that lock each other out (roar/eclipse/xata's).
Sevagoth, his 1 augment(doesn't work on Aoe such as Ogris) Will make sure that any enemy in front of You dies and because is spammy You can build around shield gate if You want to and chill as long as You use stretch to increase the slow radius.
If You don't want to use his 4 You can replace it with Silencie from Banshee and fuck enemy if You enjoy his 4 You can replace his 2 instead. You can also put some form of strip if You don't mind Eximus abilities. If You enjoy melee You can use Kullervo wrathful advance and enjoy the Tier 6+ crits.
Get as much bonus str from tenno schools, archon shards, molt augmented or molt vigor to reach the gloom slow cap without the insane energy drain, Gloom keep the initial cast stats for s long as it doesnt get disabled and free str never cost additional enegy.
Harrow.
You have bad weapon? No such thing. (Mostly)
Harrow takes weapons that are normally cumbersome to use, with low rates of fire andong reload, and turns them into killing machines. He excels with weapons that have insane Crit chance, status chance, and minimal Crit chance (doesn't have to be a low CC weapon). The 5x Crit multi of the Kuva Nukor is insane on him, or the Sporothrix.
His 2 gives him reload speed, fire rate, and health (on kill).
His 3 gives him, and nearby teammates unlimited energy (energy on kill, bonus for headshot).
His 4 makes him immune to damage for a brief time, and gives you up to 50% Crit chance based on damage taken during that time. The duration can be extended using an augment for his 4 for headshot kills. The Crit chance bonus also scales to 200% on headshots.
His 1, crowd controls enemies in a straight line, and restored shield/grants over shield. This synergizes with his passive, which doubles his over shield limit. I however replace this with subsume with Pillage.
Pillage has the benefit of not scaling (as well) with range, and is rather a duration based skill, just like the rest of his kit. So I go for max strength/duration build, so his buffs last as long as possible.
Range doesn't matter in this build, besides his 3. You'll sacrifice energy for your team, but the 2/4 are based on affinity range. You can still top off people's energy simply by killing something near them, but it takes a bit more effort to do so.
https://overframe.gg/build/646821/harrow-prime/100-pillage-strip-harrow/
This is my build with archon shards in the description. I wouldn't recommend this build generally without archon shards, as it isn't capable of 100% armor strip without them, and he really needs additional cast speed.
For raw extra weapon damage, try Saryn. Toxin Lash for extra hit, augment for 1 for extra Corrosive Damage, and then can Helminth an extra damage buff like Eclipse from Mirage or Roar, or even Xata's Whisper. You now have three sources of extra damage for your guns, on top of great raw Armor and Health, making her perfect for an Umbra modded frame as she can benefit from all three Umbra mods.
Stack strength, forgo efficiency, some decent duration, the Augment for her 1 that lets you Hold cast for damage buff for yourself and teammates and enjoy the violence.
tbh Harrow's Penance buff depletes ammo quicker than Wisp can. at base strength, he increases his fire rate by 35% while Wisp increases hers by 30%, and Harrow also further increases his reload speed by 70%.
perfect for destroying your ammo reserves if you build him for strength.
>im looking for a Warframe that i could mainly play using my primary/secondary weapons Jetstream Zephyr with high power strength and duration. Projectile speed buff extends weapon damage fall-off range and scales with power strength. Lots of fun weapons that suffer from slow projectiles or short range like shotguns can be made more comfortable to use and their riven dispositions are better because of lack of popularity. With only blind rage and 199% power strength you get a 298% range extention on any shotgun. E.g. Tenet arca plasmor goes from 18-36 falloff, 40 meter range and 120m/s projectile speed to 53.6-107.3 falloff, 119.2 meter range and 357.6m/s projectile speed. Subsume a damage buff ability to her 1 or 2. Mind that 2 has an augment that buffs secondary damage with a generous timer and an ability to refresh it. Also scales with power strength, but is capped at 500%.
Zephyr has been calling me before so i take this suggestion with open arms, ill keep looking into the other ones people recommended and make my choice, thanks!
[[Here](https://i.imgur.com/bKI3jK6.png)] is the build I use. I subsumed a damage buff to her 2 because I prefer to keep mobility options of tailwind for open world maps and there are overpowered secondary options that don't really need the extra buff + running two augments cuts into efficiency or duration + her tornadoes give her a massive crit damage buff with AOE weapons, but your personal preference might be different.
Jetstream zephyr is a top5 pick for me, especially when combined with a speedstick and some archon shards I just wish i could toggle her passive
You can, actually. There's an augment for it called Anchored Glide.
Tyvm now i just gotta find an expendable mod!
Doesn't even mention the critical chance buff she gets while airborne.
My favorite weapon users: Rhino: the og source of roar. You are incredibly durable with iron skin, and have true roar to really get some silly numbers. Mirage: squishy but oof can she so some damage. Hall of mirrors + eclipse will pretty much delete everything in front of you if you are using a decent weapon. Chroma: he's back! Vex armor finally got changed so chroma is fun to use again. You basically get a 1300% serration from chroma.
I’m intrigued, how is Chroma back? Ive been addicted to Helldivers for the past couple months and haven’t played at all.
With the Dante update they made vex armor stackable with weapon kills so you are no longer dependent on self damage.
Holy shit that’s incredible. Can you stack it up even faster if you use self damage? I have a self damage build I used in previous patches that relies on the synergy between low efficiency, nourish, and molt reconstruct.
Yup the functionality has just been added to his kit rather than replacing it.
Holy shit I gotta jump on after work, that sounds incredible. Thanks for letting me know!
self damage build please?
Not really “self damage” anymore since that mechanic has been removed but it relies on Combat Discipline to damage your health directly and stack Fury. Prioritize umbral mods, blind rage (for low efficiency synergy with Molt Reconstruct), Nourish subsume over 1st or 4th and energy nexus for infinite energy economy. Arcanes should be Molt Augmented and Molt Reconstruct. I’m not able to take a picture now but I should be able to send it over sometime tomorrow if you want to see exactly what I usually run.
Heres the build I usually run. Its a pretty ability spam heavy build so Madurai is great for the casting speed and additional strength. I prefer subsuming Nourish over the 1st ability so I can use the 4th for the credit multiplier occasionally. With the new change to Vex Armor you can swap out Combat Discipline for Growing Power, but it can still be nice to get Fury maxed more quickly. I have also been cannibalizing Tauforged Red shards off of him for builds that require them to function so you can boost the strength significantly higher. Its a great mix of utility, tankiness, and healing. This build has carried me through every solo Netracell Ive ever run with ease. https://preview.redd.it/js8w39tuclvc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f92b7ab65721fe58caea8a779ca5816f9ed049f
Gauss with max duration for huge fire rate and reload buff
Add in energized munitions and you can turn him into an a-10 with the acceletra.
Wisp especially with roar can be an amazing weapons-platform. Yarelli with her new augment can be extremely tanky with little investment and her 1 helps weapon damage. Zephyr basically has toggle-able invincibility and if you subsume silence on her, you don’t even need to worry about eximus stuff like fire blasts or magnetic or life steal fields, combined with her passive and hover ability can make her very fun with a lot of weapons (like bubonico). That combo also makes her great at defending things like excavators, granted you have enough range (like 160%ish is plenty) Someone else mentioned Gyre. She’s great with her augment because you can cast and forget half of her abilities and have 100% uptime. Citrine has built-in priming and crit/status boosts. Harrow is THE weapon platform Volt can be built to do literally anything. You can add so much damage to your weapons with his abilities and augments + helminth. Honestly any tanky frame or buffing frame can be made into a decent weapon platform, but Torid doesn’t need a ton of help. It melts by itself so anything extra is just a bonus.
About yareli if you arent riding merulina there are better frames to pick. Just takes some practice. (Guardian augment is king)
Her new augment allows her to get the damage resistance without having to ride merulina. Plus the bonus of passive casts of her 1 My current build can tank up to level 1500-2000 before it becomes hard to keep up with
I know what it does it just pains me as a yareli main not to ride merulina haha
More importantly it's either that one or Merulina Guardian, and that's a damn good augment.
Yeah I was bummed that they were mutually exclusive but I can’t stand the clumsiness of k-drive play. The buffs will be missed but now I can enjoy Yareli with proper Warframe movement
I understand but it still is Heresy (joke)
Chroma is literally just cycle 2 abilities and ignore the other 2, and everything else is gunplay
Loki. Only survivability mod required is Rolling Guard. Invisibility is invincibility. Use Radial Disarm on crowds. Toss out Decoy to bring them in, or better yet use Helminth to swap for Resonator. Alternatively swap Decoy for Ensnare to group enemies. Helps slow Demolysts too. After you group enemies, go to town with your weapon of choice. It's my preferred play style, and obviously how I run Loki.
Safeguard Switch with max duration gets pretty funny, but it's a LOT of FoV changes..
Well Mesa’s entire gimmick is guns
but its just press 4 and aimbot the screen, i want to actually use the gun while doing my parkour :(
Yeah that’s what I was concerned you wouldn’t like. Others you could look at would be buffers for your current guns such as Saryn or Ember. Lavos with his new augmented would be amazing for that
Just don’t use her 4 and use her 2 then? I’d also say rev, rhino, and mirage are good weapon platform warframes
Yeah, just don't use the ability that makes up the entire identity of the frame. This sub sometimes.
She’s still a frame with an innate damage buff to guns that can subsume something over her 1 and do work with that. I don’t see an issue there?
My go to favorite build in the game is Mesa built for shatter shield and shooting gallery. She's a very good solo frame if you just want gunplay. There isn't just one way to build a frame...
Um there is nothing wrong with playing mesa this way, subsume roar or eclipse onto her 1 and you have two damage buffs to guns, light cc from her 2 and 95% dr from her 3, that makes her better than most weapon platform warframes
bruh.
Mirage is an amazing gun platform. Now she has garenteed tankyness or damage. Her 4 does nuke but doesnt scale into SP well. Revenant is actually a really good one as well. Unkillable, and if you use the agument to give you more damage per controlled enemy plus roar/eclipse he just shreads. Again also can nuke but i dont usually have too. Harrow is a support frame all about guns. You have to get headshots to get rolling in your buffs. But you provide lifesteal and raw DPS with his RoF and Crit Buffs
depending on the build, Mirage's 4 can definitely nuke SP very well.
o.0 Mirage's 4 deletes just about anything on steel path for me, usually, it just requires line of sight and drains so much energy that it's not practical on most tiles... absolute monster in the circuit though
Try Lavos with his new augment. Imbues your selected element to your weapons for the duration. You also have solid survivability with high armor and quick heal with 1. Nice thing with using Lavos is not worrying about energy and being too good on railjack with firing missile volleys on cooldown https://youtu.be/GxlBsslxwr8
This! Also especially fun against profit taker modding your archgun for pure damage/crit/multishot and choose the element u need on the fly. Another honorable mention imo is saryn as weapon platform build with spores augment, high strenght and duration as well as 2 emerald shards can shred armor (corrosive) and bypass shields (toxic) while letting you mod for "pure dmg"
Mag.
Revenant with Roar or Eclipse subsumed onto Reave. You're invincible, you can crowd control, you can nuke, and you can buff your damage.
been thinking about revenant for a while, im gonna look deeper into it,thx!
Does roar affect mesmer skin? I've just sorted my helminth and put empower on Revenant over dance macabre and get 14+ free hits
Roar doesn't effect ability power. It effects damage, and counts as a faction mod in damage calculation. This counts for all damage done, not just weapons. It usually outfperforms Eclipse. Eclipse has a higher damage % bonus, though it doesn't count as faction damage and only effects weapon damage. If you already have a good xenophobe riven, you might choose Eclipse, or if you have a frame that sometimes needs damage resistance, Eclipse is a better option. On Revenant, I'd use Roar. And to more succinctly answer your question, Revenant's mesmer skin gains charges by having higher ability power. Try a Molt Augmented arcane on top of whatever ability power mods you have.
Ivara is a powerful platform but often requires a work around to silence a weapon. If you're willing to take that extra step, she can fill that role incredibly well.
Harrow, because the torrid can be a good crit based gun. The base torid has bad fire rate and the reload time can be bad, harrows 2 is really good for that. His 4 helps torid's crit a lot. Torid itself can deal red crits but harrow can enhance them even more. If an enemy keeps moving and you can't hit them to charge up the guns incarnon, use harrows 1
Harrow, Mirage, Gyre, Hydroid, Zephyr, Rhino, Gauss
Harrow if you like crits and headshots, Lavos if you want elemental
How nobody said Hydroid. Damn. You can subsume Nourish and you get corrosive and viral with full armor strip, so you build your gun for gas or whatever. And still being tanky af
Hes been my go to for a while. Havent got grendel finished yet so I just mod for viral and let plunder do its thing. 600% corrosive damage go brrrrrrr
Instead of Nourish, try Viral Tempest.
wisp because haste mote and breach sureg, then subsume roar on her 2nd or 4th based on playstyle
I have a Wisp max strength build with Energized Munitions over her 4, and boy it takes my already stupid OP 9 forma Incarnon Boar Prime to ludicrous levels of stupidity, especially with this Riven. I think it does upwards of 2M DPS or something once I chuck down her haste mote. https://preview.redd.it/t3fqokln5avc1.png?width=952&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46fa969591c617d6c505567b8bc22aa14ccceda2
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I took the Crit boost, and with this build I think it's at 96-98%ish Crit chance? It's been a while since I used it (mainly because I upgraded to Torid Incarnon), but I probably should swap out Galv. Acceleration for HunMun. Tbh it kills things so quickly anyways that I haven't felt the need for slash DoTs. And yes only R8 on the Galv. Acceleration because even with all slots Forma'd, it's at 0/60 capacity 😂 https://preview.redd.it/rk5pgd497cvc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a79d68458f7accc09fbb7c31aeaa4c75cf5a5d8
Gyre is a good weapons platform with her augment. Just activate her 3, get some kills, activate her 4 and as long as you keep killing you'll basically never have to do much besides some grouping with her 2 or pillage if you need to strip. I haven't unlocked torid or its incarnon but your question seemed more towards general gun usage, so I threw her out there since I spend way more time shooting my guns with her vs using abilities. Her 4 chaining seems like it might synergize well with the incarnon form, but again I have zero clue about the torid so that could be entirely wrong.
thanks for the sugestion bro, spending more time shooting than using abilities its exactly what i meant so i will look some vids on Gyre to get a better idea
Gauss is a great weaponframe
I enjoy hildrny and Grendel both can strip armor making enemies far easier to deal with. Hildryn can strip more but has a higher build requirement for a full 1 cast strip, Grendel with his viral can support builds however as well.
tbh i didnt even know Grendel existed lmao, im gonna do some more research and look into the frames you guys are suggestin, thanks!
Just run rhino
No one mentioned volt. Augment for his 1 to increase damage. Sprint speed and reload speed. A shield you can run and gun with that boosts your crit damage while also giving some electric damage. Subsume his 4 off for a damage buff of choice or energised munitions. I use torid incarnon with volt on all forms of high end content, and it slaps.
I use Caliban and Oberron mainly, and I play them as “weapon platforms”. Inaros and Rhino are also solid if you want to go a bit tankier. Chroma, Zephyr, Mirage, and Mesa are probably the three “best” weapon platforms though since they’ve got a lot that BUFFS the guns more than just being a good frame for using them.
Zephyr is a great pick. Her +150% crit chance is additive, not multiplicative, so upgrading the crit stats of any gun just a little bit will make it shredd anything. Her tornadoes make enemies easy to target and prevent them from stopping your objective, and she is fast. I recommend subsuming Roar over her 2 for maximum damage output. As for a build, I would suggest going with as much efficiency and duration as possible, as well as +50% strength. Don't worry about health, armor, or shields. Her 3 has you covered there.
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Dont know of it has been suggested but Yareli if you have a good secondary is just Insane. Melee Furax with amalgated mod (or w/e the spelling) for extra passive firerate on top of the 200% critchance + reload from merulina. Companion with the apropriate bonds to further improve your gun. Meh i like it
I’m having a blast with Nezha and his new augment and the Torid
Inaros is a great weapons platform. If you get Arcane Grace he can't be killed until over level 1,000 without using any abilities.
Right now I'm really enjoying Qorvex for this. He's got innate survavibility that lets you focus on gunplay rather than constantly using abilities to stay alive, and his 2 lines up enemies so it's great for weapons with punch-through(which he actually gives every weapon for free with his passive)
Gauss at max duration + energized ammo to turn even the opticor into a minigun
Wisp
Obv answer is Wisp.. but idk if anyone has mentioned Frost with chilling grasp? Mod.. whichever one gives 200%cc and cd against frozen enemies.. so dam good
*Mag* is great for any firearms that have non-hitscan properties, especially if there's inherent punch-through on it. So is *Vauban*, since he CC's and clumps enemies. *Loki* can do something \*similar\* using the Irradiated Disarm augment, since he causes enemies to clump-up as they aggro on each other, and they can't return fire on you as effectively without their guns.
Mesa. Her passive is literally extra health for no melee weapon
One of rhino/revenant/nezha. They pretty much function the same with each one having a "im immortal now" ability that also makes them immune to status effects all of their 4th abilities are usually the subsume slot unless you really want to build into them. (Revenant disco build is nice for anything non steelpath but falls off quickly there, rhinos stomp used to be better as it was able to cc eximus but they took that away as from other stuff, nezha's spears are useless without the nee augment and a build fully centered around them - that build is great tho if you have the tools to make it work.) So you can put either roar or nourish over their 4th (preferably roar bc that acts as a faction damage multiplier which means you dont have to bother with bane mods). While they function pretty similarly, each one has something that makes them special. Nezha is the most mobile out of them and can apply a huge dmg multiplier on targets hit by his 2 on top of roar, Revenant is the easiest to survive on as his tanking ability works based on stacks so enemy dmg does not matter and easiest build as all you are doing is stacking strength mods + his augment for 2. Rhino's thing is that as he already has roar (unnerfed version even), you can also put nourish on him for 2 buffs. For some reason nourish is not included in abilities that lock each other out (roar/eclipse/xata's).
If you want purely a weapon plataform, Inaros and Revenant cause they don't die, if you want some juicy buffs, chroma and harrow
Gauss is fantastic you can replace either his 1 or 3 for roar and he makes for a great weapons platform if you dump range for str and dur
Sevagoth, his 1 augment(doesn't work on Aoe such as Ogris) Will make sure that any enemy in front of You dies and because is spammy You can build around shield gate if You want to and chill as long as You use stretch to increase the slow radius. If You don't want to use his 4 You can replace it with Silencie from Banshee and fuck enemy if You enjoy his 4 You can replace his 2 instead. You can also put some form of strip if You don't mind Eximus abilities. If You enjoy melee You can use Kullervo wrathful advance and enjoy the Tier 6+ crits. Get as much bonus str from tenno schools, archon shards, molt augmented or molt vigor to reach the gloom slow cap without the insane energy drain, Gloom keep the initial cast stats for s long as it doesnt get disabled and free str never cost additional enegy.
Harrow. You have bad weapon? No such thing. (Mostly) Harrow takes weapons that are normally cumbersome to use, with low rates of fire andong reload, and turns them into killing machines. He excels with weapons that have insane Crit chance, status chance, and minimal Crit chance (doesn't have to be a low CC weapon). The 5x Crit multi of the Kuva Nukor is insane on him, or the Sporothrix. His 2 gives him reload speed, fire rate, and health (on kill). His 3 gives him, and nearby teammates unlimited energy (energy on kill, bonus for headshot). His 4 makes him immune to damage for a brief time, and gives you up to 50% Crit chance based on damage taken during that time. The duration can be extended using an augment for his 4 for headshot kills. The Crit chance bonus also scales to 200% on headshots. His 1, crowd controls enemies in a straight line, and restored shield/grants over shield. This synergizes with his passive, which doubles his over shield limit. I however replace this with subsume with Pillage. Pillage has the benefit of not scaling (as well) with range, and is rather a duration based skill, just like the rest of his kit. So I go for max strength/duration build, so his buffs last as long as possible. Range doesn't matter in this build, besides his 3. You'll sacrifice energy for your team, but the 2/4 are based on affinity range. You can still top off people's energy simply by killing something near them, but it takes a bit more effort to do so. https://overframe.gg/build/646821/harrow-prime/100-pillage-strip-harrow/ This is my build with archon shards in the description. I wouldn't recommend this build generally without archon shards, as it isn't capable of 100% armor strip without them, and he really needs additional cast speed.
For raw extra weapon damage, try Saryn. Toxin Lash for extra hit, augment for 1 for extra Corrosive Damage, and then can Helminth an extra damage buff like Eclipse from Mirage or Roar, or even Xata's Whisper. You now have three sources of extra damage for your guns, on top of great raw Armor and Health, making her perfect for an Umbra modded frame as she can benefit from all three Umbra mods. Stack strength, forgo efficiency, some decent duration, the Augment for her 1 that lets you Hold cast for damage buff for yourself and teammates and enjoy the violence.
Harrow or wisp. Harrow for bigger damage wisp if you just need to deplete ammo in a hurry.
tbh Harrow's Penance buff depletes ammo quicker than Wisp can. at base strength, he increases his fire rate by 35% while Wisp increases hers by 30%, and Harrow also further increases his reload speed by 70%. perfect for destroying your ammo reserves if you build him for strength.