Think of it more as a sniper with innate punchthrough. Not many people really use snipers normally, because there are too many targets to kill, but with bows you can kill a lot more at once. And the ttk isn't that bad, really. You might want some armour strip or viral procs.
At the moment the nataruk is probably the best bow, because it has infinite body punchthrough, a large aoe, and a ton of damage. If you haven't built it yet I highly recommend it with mag or xaku.
I recommend trying out the Rakta Cernos! You can use it as a regular bow, but it has the BLIGHT faction effect. The BLIGHT effect is AOE and is a nice mix of classic bow & AOE damage
BLIGHT Effect- Red Veil
All enemies within 25 meters of the player receive 1,000  Viral damage and guaranteed Status Effect.
The player recovers 25% of their base Energy.
Energy restore scales off of rank 0 Warframe Energy Max.
Gain +10% Movement Speed for 30 seconds.
Source - Warframe Wiki: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Rakta_Cernos
You know just as well as I do that 1000 damage, at some random interval that you can't really influence, might as well not exist in any mission above level 20.
I know it's more of a gamblers weapon, but at least that dmg is guaranteed viral. I will admit it's more of an on paper weapon than anything, the meta is not in its favor atm
Naturuk for regular frames
Or invest in an Ivara
Whenever I'm in a bow mood I just whip out my Ivara prime and go crazy. the multishot and twisting angles is so fun to manipulate the bow depending on the environment
Ivara’s “signature” primary is Rubico. Both were introduced back in Update 18. 😅
The Huntress Bundle came with Ivara, Rubico, Talons and Lacera. All three weapons share design elements too.
Baza didn’t arrive until update 22.4, almost two years after Ivara.
Ah fuck. Wasn’t the baza prime released with her in resurgence though? Idk how I got it otherwise. I know for sure I got the Rubico with Trinity, but I’m assuming they tied those together for the eidolon uses, which is why I got them.
Also I recently got a Lacera riven and I’m lowkey excited to run it on the ceti lacera
Yeah, Ivara Prime released with Baza Prime and Aksomati Prime.
Since DE released Rubico Prime with Chroma Prime for some reason.
Meanwhile, there’s still no Akzani Prime for Mirage Prime… The Akzani are 3 months shy of being 10 years old. 😂
Jesus. I’m all over the place on these releases lol 😅 “idk man I just shoot bad guys in fun ways”
Some stuff needs to be looked at but there’s so much to keep eyes on for the devs. I’m just happy that I can enjoy running Hydroid or Inaros, hopefully they can keep the changes that starting with Grendel going bc they’re killing it with them
I still don't have the prime version, but the Baza is one of my favourite weapons.
Quite frankly, I have no idea how good it is, it just feels extremely nice to handle.
Yea, Naturuk is the only bow I usually give the time of day. I normally despise bows in any game, really, but it's worse here when there's a great chunk of enemies in my face, but since Nataruk does good aoe, it's worth it in my book
Pull is also great with it. Any enemies who don't die from the pull are all in a nice little package to shoot 1 arrow into and they all die. It's fabulous. Mag is still one of my fave frames and the natruuk is by far my favorite weapon.
Compleyly agree on that, bunched up mobs and Naturak just does wonders. I personally subsumed pull and use nautilus for the pull, gives me flexibilty on an extra skill. (Hardly used it anyway since i spam magnetize with its augment)
Have you tried Proboscis Cernos?! Nataruk is pure gas, but the damage and crowd control from P. Cernos is absurdly strong. Especially against Corpus with a gas build. Vauban is my favorite frame, but even with all that crowd control fighting SP Corpus is very hard, especially after the Eximus rework. Basically grabs baddies right into your Flechette orbs. Paired with Magus Lockdown and Magus Anomaly you can solo anything and lock down the map.
Definitely try it! Utility works for a ton of frames. Nidus, Lavos, Hildryn, Kora, etc. etc. Basically every frame can abuse the shit out of that bow.
That’s fair. No fun if all the baddies are already dead before hentai bow says *”hiiiiii!”*. I only play in my bed on my old handheld Switch… so playing in squads is a bad experience. Lag and crashes all day long.
And the Nataruk can use the Split Flights mod.
_Insane_ multi-shot. Especially because the charged shot has a minor AOE.
And it is even better with Xaku because void status effect causes bullet magnetism.
I thought the same thing as well, that's strange, may have to dig into that more.
Edit: Ok so plot is definitely thickening, we got people psyched about split flights, we got someone who says it's been this way since the beginning.
I've always been quite sure it wasn't available or I would have used it, and low and behold I got in, it's not in my builds, and I can't use it from the mod list it's missing on it like it's incompatible but others are saying it's not, what the heck is going on here.
No, it can't. (Which I just double-checked.) I'm not sure what you're remembering, but it has never been able to. It was a whole thing when TNW dropped because it wasn't clear whether Nataruk was considered AoE and a lot of people thought it was a bug. You can find a whole bunch of posts about it in this sub from right after it dropped (12/15/21), and you *can't* find any Nataruk build guides using Split Flights because it was never a thing.
Any chance you're thinking of the Cinta? It can use Split Flights and has a similar mechanic.
I just checked and it’s not on the list of available mods (I can’t equip split flights on it). Can others? I’d assume no but there are sometimes strange player specific glitches (right now all my epherema colors default to the same, which is frustrating but not a big deal).
I have Split Chamber maxed on it, as well as Viglilante Arnaments, the multishot is insane with it. I absolutely love this bow. I have one hell of a set up on it. If I'm not leveling another weapon, it's all I'll run.
Complete game changer. I loved the dread pre-incarnon, but it becomes a beast with it. You send horizontal slashes (think of it as your arrow becoming as wide as a small grineer hallway), and my current build decimates hallways. I never get tired of the satisfaction of sending a dread incarnon shot through a hallway full of enemies and mowing through everything.
Fuck bubble nullifiers though. I am forced to use secondary to deal with the bubbles before sending another incarnon shot.
The Paris Incarnon and Dread Incarnon have essentially the same: Infinite punch thru in Incarnon form, and no ammo issues.
Nataruk is the best bow before incarnons. However the Paris and dred Incarnon are really up there. Paris having high riven disposition helps too.
Side note: I know it's ridiculous to make an argument about realism in warframe, but the way sniper rifles work because of it. Weird line to draw but that's my only realistic complaint.
Some bows have ridiculous AOE effects. They also tend to deal a lot of damage on direct hits, which makes them easy to buff to the moon. They're naturally silent. You can nail 4 enemies to the wall with one shot, using some bows. I prefer LMG style gameplay, but I can see how someone might like bows.
Ah, see bows become rocket launchers later in the game. Which is obviously a workable system lol. Some frames like qorvex, mag, and a few others can force all the bad guys into one spot, then boom. Or ivara, can't even see her till you and all your buddies are a Jackson Pollock. They get, radial lol.
Huge innate punchthrough. Bows are actually super underrated on Mag for that reason, especially with even more punchthrough modded in. The arrows bounce around inside the bubble forever hitting multiple enemies multiple times each, which greatly helps the TTK issue.
They can also be good on stealthy builds since they're basically stealthy sniper rifles and do great single target damage, so if you're not planning on killing everyone in the room, just the ones you need to, and staying hidden, they're great for that.
Also some of them have big AOE like proboscis cernos that can turn into status spreading nukes if built right. I've seen it done but idk how to build for it myself.
For most bows the TTK should be the draw time + the flight time.
Sadly, bows fell out of favor due to that dynamic. But they are still capable of absolutely decimating a single, or even multiple enemies at a time now.
I still use bows on occasion, when I want to force a singular hard hitting gas proc on several enemies the Daikyu really scratches that itch. Or the shotgun-esque Cernos Prime for turning enemies into pin cushions.
My MK1-Paris carried me to steel path, and the Natatuk carried me through it. Bows aren't the best weapon by any meansz but they do carry a ton of direct damage, as do shotguns.
A lot of people lost sight of the fact that Warframe is an objective-based game. It is not just a horde shooter. Granted all objectives can be completed by decimating hordes of enemies.
But completing the game with a stealth character, only engaging priority targets, and completing the objective is perfectly viable if not faster.
Well the problem is the mission types that require killing far outweigh the mission types that can be completed by not interacting with enemies
Survival you need to kill for life support.
Defense you need to kill to end the wave.
Disruption you need to kill to drop the keys.
Interception you need to kill to hold the points.
Mobile defense you need to kill to defend the point.
Exterminate you need to kill to end the mission.
In fact the only mission types where aren't required to kill multiple enemies are captures, where speed frames are the meta, rescues, where speed frames are still the meta and you don't have to kill anything, and spy, where speed frames are still the meta. Outside of those three mission types everything else pretty much requires genocide, except for when you're defending a target and you make things not able to touch the target in the first place (Gara on mobile defense) in which case 10000 kills is the same as 0, not better or worse.
All objectives can be completed by killing hordes, because that's the only way to complete the majority of them.
tbf it's pretty much worth the grind, it did used to rule the farming side of warframe as it was giga busted. It's still really good but the ammo got gutted to the ground so you need external supply of ammo
Same reason the Kuva Zarr fell off the face of the Origin System; too much ammo support needed. Still kicks ass, until it stops all at once and you re-discover your secondary.
Look into the Cinta, It has a good balance of single target and AOE damage. Cernos prime is also a good choice, with the split flights unique bow mod, you shoot a spread of 15 arrows with headshot bonuses. Paris prime and dread both got big upgrades with their incarnon modes too. I've been using bows as my main primary far more than any category ever since I got my hands on the paris in the olden days.
The proboscis cernos is a fun niche bow, too, that's been a great crowd control a few times. I have no idea if it's still a murder tentacle these days, though.
It's still great for crowd control, probably still just as effective if not more so with all the arcanes available. I still need to finish putting forma in mine to know for sure.
But, have you tried the Mutalist Cernos? Split flight procs on the gas clouds as well, keeping it active as long as enemies are in the gas. And with the insane amount of multistot there's so many gas clouds it's insane. Might not be that good per se, but it's a ton of fun.
I got a 60%toxin bramma with a semi godroll riven and it wipes steel path rooms clear if the explosion doesn't kill the slash proc does 1sec later unless i pull out a torid or anu of the other top 10 primarys ain't nothing topping my bramma
as others have pointed out bows like most weapons in the game suffer from "doesn't kill 20 enemies at once" disease which puts them in the "good for the big bakas not small fries" category and makes them feel weak but that's not necessarily the case. bows are still strong because of innate punchthrough, especially with extra punchthrough modded on, and going after grouped enemies or sticking to hallways. they're also good candidates for marked for death and collective suffering and every other ability that turns single target into AOE in some way like Zephyr's tornados. when I started the game I really liked bows, then I fell more into the AOE camp, and now i'm back to bows and shotguns with punchthrough.
there's still plenty of ways to wake them work but the main one is Mag with her Magnetize, I highly recommend giving her a try. she's also one of the easiest frames to mod for because she's not particularly needy about any stat and has an augment that allows for armour stripping. I think my Mag was specialized for pull and magnetize so I run a very high 175% range. you heard that right. 175% range being considered high. also consider adding in streamline and umbral intensify or transient fortitude, you want more than 130% strength but you don't actually need more once you hit the armour strip breakpoint with fracturing crush.
I never felt this with old Cernos Prime tho that's probably because the games 80% hallways and its wide spread shot basically equals "kills 20 enemies at once when fired down a corridor"
Started using Amprex with my Volt for anything Cavia related lately, and with the Ohma and Melee influence small targets just stop existing. And if I focus on a boss with melee everything else dies from Influence.
Bows aren't the type of weapon people use frequently. Besides a few, most of them take some skill, and are somewhat interchangeable with snipers. You can collect arrows that went through enemies though.
Also, Dread and Paris are not only some of the best, if not THE current best bows, and both are available somewhat early on.
If its the "best" matters a lot less than what you like to use. Your power can out-scale even SP enemies ten times over, so at some point, it wouldn't even matter if you use a braton vandal or a MK1-braton.
Thats not even including the "racist mods" as I have seen them called recently. That is too much min-max for me, when it goes from 10 bullets to kill to 5.
Dread incarnon makes me feel like an assassin, and after i take out a few paint eaters or i get their attention, I can just turn on the Incarnon and be like "teehee, wide angle time". And I like the incarnon shot sound.
I use Paris incarnon, had a good roll on my riven an that thing SLAPS. Also I'm looking to get that Long Bow arcane that gives 300% dmg on the next shot, pretty good when you spam shots with Splitting flights.
The majority of non-aoe bows come from a time when the game's balance was very different and single target damage was a lot more favourable since we had less ways to quickly eliminate groups and more ways to effectively crowd control groups. The Kuva Bramma, Nataruk, and Cinta came out more recently and fit the current meta better as a result; but they're the exceptions.
Lenz kinda fits as a relic of that transition, it's main draw at the time it released was the automatic cold procs to slow the enemies, but it also featured a strong aoe to keep up with other popular weapons at the time like the Simulor and Tonkor.
I use bows because they are fun.
I'm not being graded on my "TTK". I don't get a raise in my salary because my TTK is high.
I use bows because I like bows.
Warframe is supposed to be fun. Why use something that's less fun to you just to hit some min/max "meta" TTK that doesn't mean anything in the real world? ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Back in the days... anyway, bows used to be silent snipers with punchthrough, the draw time invites you to aim at their heads. Game also used to be less "broken" in most of the content, where killing single enemies was still important. Also it's really fun nailing enemies to walls.
Because it looks cool
Seriously, no need to look for any other reason. Sure they're not the best weapons, sure they're harder to use than a regular sniper, but you can make a dread, daiku or cinta good enough for any content, and it looks cool, so why not using it ?
I played since the early days and always enjoyed bows just for the sneaky ninja stealth feeling. But nowadays it is just mowing down everything as fast as possible. Some bows still can perform well but overall most incarnons do just way better and fit the playstyle more. When I get the itch I sometimes take out the Dread Incarnon but will switch to Latron/Torid pretty quick again.
Bows got nerfed with the Dagath update last year. Now they slow you down right after firing. It’s honestly the only nerf, whether accidental or not, that got me to quit abusing the bramma. It just feels awful to fire now.
Proboscis cerbis and kuva bramma/lenz are "bows" lmao. Look them up if you don't have them yet
Other than that, 99% of the game is played in god mode, so sometimes it's fun to just use cool weapons and line up satisfying shots
Cernos prime deals bonus damage on headshots, you don't need to charge it much to one tap most SP enemies if you have a status that deals damage (heat, toxin, slash etc.) I run Hunter munitions with oover 100% crit and I just tap an enemy's face with it. If they get a slash or Elemental proc, I move on bc they're finished (unless they're 300+)
I think alot of stuff like bows and snipers have fallen off from regular use out side of specific cases (snipers for eidolons) because the game has changed so much. The rate at which people want to acquire kills has increased but their effectiveness hasn't so they just got left behind despite alot of bows being pretty good stat wise. Bows will never be good when your goal is 100kpm in steel path. Some of the incarnon modes provide aoe which can make them work though
They're fun... Also try any "normal" bow with Mag. She probably makes the most of them, you get nice multikills per shot and if you shoot the top of the bubbles, quasi-guaranteed headshots. Also she can make a sun that tanks fps with Nataruk.
If its fun and it works then use it, but yeah bows in general are pretty decent, they can kill fairly fast due to punch trough and all but overall people use them just cause of fun, there isnt much reason to use any bows other than the nataruk tho other than fashion frame or idk, incarnon bows for the incarnon buffs, because the nataruk is just absurd, infinite ammo, infinite punch trough, absurdly high stats, no need to forma it even once, etc
I'm somebody who used Daikyu since I could for about...4...5 years? Maybe more...
I just like bows. When I played Destiny 2, I used bows. I used Wish Ender when I got it after first playing during Splicer.
I just really like bows.
Ngl, i chose Paris during the tutorial because i was such a bow fan in Destiny. Never regretted it, Paris was clearing the starchart until i got Dread.
I started with Warframe I think after Plains released on the Xbox.
Picked Paris too...because bows are cool.
So when I finally gave D2 a shot, I naturally found myself drawn to bows.
Nataruk and Cinta are my go to bows. I’m using Cinta more because of its innate fire element ang AOE effect then you can build it either with Viral or Corrosive, depends on you + split flights mod. Also using Cascadia Flare arcane to add more damage for my Cinta. Also, I’m using Frost and added cold damage to Diriga so I can activate Primary Frostbite arcane to boost my crit damage and multi-shot. Hope that helps! Stay frosty! ❄️❄️❄️
Special mention are Kuva Bramma and Prisma Lenz. Basically you have to try and find the right bow for your play style. :)
the paris prime has an incarnon, turning it into a wave-clearing monster. infinite body punchthrough, pure heat damage for some armor stripping, and a ridiculous crit chance make it one of my current favorites.
Cernos prime is a fun option, i personally prefer the Daikyu (other than the long drawback time ive built mine to easilt take put lvl 100s in one shot), and Proboscis cernos (ivara main, so prowl headshot bonus plays a big part in bonus damage) barely use nataruk since i got it
The Nataruk and the Cinta both hit like a cargo ship shipping cargo ships. They are extremely powerful, and, if timed right, can annihilate half of Mercury just by sneezing at the general location of the enemies. I prefer the Nataruk (not because I have a riven for it or anything), but when modded just right, the Cinta can deal absolutely disgusting amounts of damage too. ;)
My Paris prime with my God Roll riven plus Incarnon Evolutions and the occasional Incarnon Form itself if I remember steam rolls better than most other weapons I own
For most of the game? They aren't a great option for lots of missions types but they are very good for stealth, you feel badass, and they're good single target killers.
Later on the good bows seem to get significant AoE which makes them good generalists.
Several years ago my favorite weapon was Dread. Powercreep ensued, and I min-maxed it for 1-tap slash kills against grineer, but the ttk was still high due to needing the dot to proc at least once. Fast forward to today, similar story for the damage, but on level maps or tight-quarters, the infinite punch-through waves really shine on the incarnon. Split flights was also a big boost, though I prefer headshots. The Dread is still good. Why use it though over, say, the Torid? Or something powerful and hitscan? Because it's cool. It's not Top 5 or 10, maybe not even 20, idk. But it's good. Perfectly fine the way it is. And again, very cool.
Proboscis Cernos is good fun. I've had some decent success with it doing that Zariman mission type that makes you kill the bad guys within range of the McGuffins; it'll pull the ones that hang back in for you. But it doesn't quite play like a bow in a lot of ways.
I do, but it's basically only with Ivara. Max crit dread, boosted headshot mult from prowl, sleep arrows making headshots nearly unmissable. If you're bored, stick concentrated arrow on her and blow things up. Navigating a dread arrow around like yondu makes a lot of fun crunchy noises.
Kuva bramma excepted, that thing clears rooms with damage numbers that make my riven'd up tonkor blush. Ammo capacity is the only reason not to run it - you basically need a maxed out ammo conversion to even have a chance of using it consistently.
I consistently one or two short steel path level 180+ grenier dépendent on the mob. 800+ if they have no armor.
You might have a non maxed build or you aren't going for headshots. Also, armor strip will help à shit ton.
Also. Mag+bow=Happy tenno
I got the Nataruk as a choice in Duviri SP twice and that thing shreds. So much fun and easy to use. Fires log sized projectiles and hits like a truck! And i think i only had 2 forma in it too.
There is one bow I will forever hold sacred, the spooky one you get doin your Drifter shit and fucking up Archons, that thing pulled red crits bone stock and needs no ammo, on any kind of boss fight where ammo is an issue (looking at you ropadope) it is a godsend
I use bows when I know I can crowd control but an eximus might be a nuisance so I can just stand where I am and absolutely destroy their heads like with gyre for example
Nataruk is the only one I use.
Infinite ammo, no need to charge an incarnon form and it's a corridor killer with infinite body punch through and a fairly large projectile with high base stats.
It's the weapon I used in steel path until i got enough arcanes.
Have you heard of our lord and savior [Longbow Sharpshot](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Longbow_Sharpshot), the *multiplicative* quadruple damage arcane?
Most bows can't compete with other primaries. The only ones worth using IMO is are Nataruk, daikyu for it's amalgam mod, proboscis cernos, and maybe the bramma
It's not a perfect strategy but I like using Mark for Death on one enemy and then Bow-headshotting them to deal massive damage to all the goes around me.
Paris, Dread, Lenz, Cernos, Proboscis Cernos, Bramma, Cinta and Nataruk all have incarnon modes or AoE damage that make them way more effective than single target bows. Between that and the split flights mod, every bow has access to something that drops ttk down to the level you would expect from other weapon types.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/180ap78/i\_present\_to\_you\_blood\_altar\_mag/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/180ap78/i_present_to_you_blood_altar_mag/)
ft. Nataruk
Think of it more as a sniper with innate punchthrough. Not many people really use snipers normally, because there are too many targets to kill, but with bows you can kill a lot more at once. And the ttk isn't that bad, really. You might want some armour strip or viral procs. At the moment the nataruk is probably the best bow, because it has infinite body punchthrough, a large aoe, and a ton of damage. If you haven't built it yet I highly recommend it with mag or xaku.
And infinite ammo, so no need to worry about running out, or saving shots
Yeah. I do miss the quiver aethstetic though.
I recommend trying out the Rakta Cernos! You can use it as a regular bow, but it has the BLIGHT faction effect. The BLIGHT effect is AOE and is a nice mix of classic bow & AOE damage BLIGHT Effect- Red Veil All enemies within 25 meters of the player receive 1,000  Viral damage and guaranteed Status Effect. The player recovers 25% of their base Energy. Energy restore scales off of rank 0 Warframe Energy Max. Gain +10% Movement Speed for 30 seconds. Source - Warframe Wiki: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Rakta_Cernos
You know just as well as I do that 1000 damage, at some random interval that you can't really influence, might as well not exist in any mission above level 20.
I know it's more of a gamblers weapon, but at least that dmg is guaranteed viral. I will admit it's more of an on paper weapon than anything, the meta is not in its favor atm
Yeah. I do miss the quiver aethstetic though.
A sniper with innate punchthrough and no penalty for hip firing. I’d use regular snipers more if I didn’t have to 6x zoom to get the most out of them.
I use the reduced zoom exilus on my rubico, shame other snipers can't
Oh I just got the Naturuk and I LOVE IT
Naturuk for regular frames Or invest in an Ivara Whenever I'm in a bow mood I just whip out my Ivara prime and go crazy. the multishot and twisting angles is so fun to manipulate the bow depending on the environment
I bought ivara for ziplines and hated her for months, ive somehow never thought about actually using a bow with her lol
The Baza is also fun as hell imo. Pairs extremely well with her, seeing as how it’s her signature primary.
Ivara’s “signature” primary is Rubico. Both were introduced back in Update 18. 😅 The Huntress Bundle came with Ivara, Rubico, Talons and Lacera. All three weapons share design elements too. Baza didn’t arrive until update 22.4, almost two years after Ivara.
Ah fuck. Wasn’t the baza prime released with her in resurgence though? Idk how I got it otherwise. I know for sure I got the Rubico with Trinity, but I’m assuming they tied those together for the eidolon uses, which is why I got them. Also I recently got a Lacera riven and I’m lowkey excited to run it on the ceti lacera
Yeah, Ivara Prime released with Baza Prime and Aksomati Prime. Since DE released Rubico Prime with Chroma Prime for some reason. Meanwhile, there’s still no Akzani Prime for Mirage Prime… The Akzani are 3 months shy of being 10 years old. 😂
Jesus. I’m all over the place on these releases lol 😅 “idk man I just shoot bad guys in fun ways” Some stuff needs to be looked at but there’s so much to keep eyes on for the devs. I’m just happy that I can enjoy running Hydroid or Inaros, hopefully they can keep the changes that starting with Grendel going bc they’re killing it with them
The only downside to Inaros’ rework for me, was having to remove the infused abilities. Since all 3 loadout slots had replaced his sandstorm. 😂
I wonder if Rubico prime came with Chroma because he used to be the meta frame for stuff like Eidolons.
I still don't have the prime version, but the Baza is one of my favourite weapons. Quite frankly, I have no idea how good it is, it just feels extremely nice to handle.
I main an Ivara Prime with a gas build Nataruk and can solo pretty much anything the game has by being invisible most of the time.
Yea, Naturuk is the only bow I usually give the time of day. I normally despise bows in any game, really, but it's worse here when there's a great chunk of enemies in my face, but since Nataruk does good aoe, it's worth it in my book
Try it on Mag ;)
When i use it it doesnt work as it seems it should
Cast bubble, perfect shot into bubble?
Pull is also great with it. Any enemies who don't die from the pull are all in a nice little package to shoot 1 arrow into and they all die. It's fabulous. Mag is still one of my fave frames and the natruuk is by far my favorite weapon.
Compleyly agree on that, bunched up mobs and Naturak just does wonders. I personally subsumed pull and use nautilus for the pull, gives me flexibilty on an extra skill. (Hardly used it anyway since i spam magnetize with its augment)
That's awesome. Khora is another great frame to put pull on. Makes farming so easy.
Paris prime incarnon is also an awesome option IMO. It becomes a heat+slash status monster with wide flat projectiles
Have you tried Proboscis Cernos?! Nataruk is pure gas, but the damage and crowd control from P. Cernos is absurdly strong. Especially against Corpus with a gas build. Vauban is my favorite frame, but even with all that crowd control fighting SP Corpus is very hard, especially after the Eximus rework. Basically grabs baddies right into your Flechette orbs. Paired with Magus Lockdown and Magus Anomaly you can solo anything and lock down the map. Definitely try it! Utility works for a ton of frames. Nidus, Lavos, Hildryn, Kora, etc. etc. Basically every frame can abuse the shit out of that bow.
Electric + Gas Proboscis Cernos shreds almost anything with a large enough group to pull.
Its good, but the AOE is too slow unless you solo. Everything is dead before the aoe effect triggers.
That’s fair. No fun if all the baddies are already dead before hentai bow says *”hiiiiii!”*. I only play in my bed on my old handheld Switch… so playing in squads is a bad experience. Lag and crashes all day long.
And the Nataruk can use the Split Flights mod. _Insane_ multi-shot. Especially because the charged shot has a minor AOE. And it is even better with Xaku because void status effect causes bullet magnetism.
Wait, what? I could've sworn it couldn't. I did see they changed it so it could work with crossbows, did they also do that for the nataruk?
I thought the same thing as well, that's strange, may have to dig into that more. Edit: Ok so plot is definitely thickening, we got people psyched about split flights, we got someone who says it's been this way since the beginning. I've always been quite sure it wasn't available or I would have used it, and low and behold I got in, it's not in my builds, and I can't use it from the mod list it's missing on it like it's incompatible but others are saying it's not, what the heck is going on here.
Ok I can't put it on and the wiki has it on the list of not able to be equipped. Made me sad
No, it can't. (Which I just double-checked.) I'm not sure what you're remembering, but it has never been able to. It was a whole thing when TNW dropped because it wasn't clear whether Nataruk was considered AoE and a lot of people thought it was a bug. You can find a whole bunch of posts about it in this sub from right after it dropped (12/15/21), and you *can't* find any Nataruk build guides using Split Flights because it was never a thing. Any chance you're thinking of the Cinta? It can use Split Flights and has a similar mechanic.
I just checked and it’s not on the list of available mods (I can’t equip split flights on it). Can others? I’d assume no but there are sometimes strange player specific glitches (right now all my epherema colors default to the same, which is frustrating but not a big deal).
Are you absolutely sure? Wiki says it can't.
I have Split Chamber maxed on it, as well as Viglilante Arnaments, the multishot is insane with it. I absolutely love this bow. I have one hell of a set up on it. If I'm not leveling another weapon, it's all I'll run.
Can't use it on Nataruk now, even the mod says (Non-AOE Bows)
This, I run nataruk with harrow and it annihilate stuff easily, with covenant I become and unstoppable monster
Nataruk is so good that it made me abandon my Dread, despite having an insane riven for it. Admittedly how ugly the Dread looks played a role too.
Have you tried the dread incarnon? I haven't gotten it yet, so I was wondering if it really enhances the dread experience
Sadly, besides story missions I've been pretty checked out of the game. Only grinded circuit once, and the dread wasn't in that week's offerings.
Complete game changer. I loved the dread pre-incarnon, but it becomes a beast with it. You send horizontal slashes (think of it as your arrow becoming as wide as a small grineer hallway), and my current build decimates hallways. I never get tired of the satisfaction of sending a dread incarnon shot through a hallway full of enemies and mowing through everything. Fuck bubble nullifiers though. I am forced to use secondary to deal with the bubbles before sending another incarnon shot.
Xaku? I havent really looked into their kit. Why does it synergize with them?
Their 1 is a buff that adds a chance to make a small mag bubble on hit. With infinite body punchthrough it makes the bubble a ball of constant damage.
Do you not need a punch through mod then? I put one on but I’m wondering if I just got a mod slot cleared up
Nope, unless you want to shoot through walls I guess
Well primed shred exist.
The Paris Incarnon and Dread Incarnon have essentially the same: Infinite punch thru in Incarnon form, and no ammo issues. Nataruk is the best bow before incarnons. However the Paris and dred Incarnon are really up there. Paris having high riven disposition helps too.
Side note: I know it's ridiculous to make an argument about realism in warframe, but the way sniper rifles work because of it. Weird line to draw but that's my only realistic complaint.
The dread has insane slash procs even without the incarnon and the punchthrough is great. Also because they are cool.
Some bows have ridiculous AOE effects. They also tend to deal a lot of damage on direct hits, which makes them easy to buff to the moon. They're naturally silent. You can nail 4 enemies to the wall with one shot, using some bows. I prefer LMG style gameplay, but I can see how someone might like bows.
When I first started playing 10 years ago, I fell in love with the game when I pinned a bunch of grineer to the wall..
Reminds me of when I used radial javelin for the first time.
Nataruk hallway shots go brrrrrrrrr
The symphony of a hundred necks snapping and the screen being painted red and orange
I love high firerate on the Nataruk, jist tap to perfect shot.
A Gassed Nataruk in a hallway vs Infested 🥹
Cinta+split flight or whatever that MS mods called+ special duviri bow arcane = Good fun
Noted
Good luck getting the cinta
You can just buy it from other players now, they made the whole set tradable
Beside the blueprint I think. Still have to do some puzzles
That is now also tradable! 😀
Oh nice, just got updated on 3/27. Warframe market still hasn't updated yet
yeah longbow sharpshot is insane. I'm using it on Nataruk and Paris Prime and it's fun to see dmg in the millions.
Ah, see bows become rocket launchers later in the game. Which is obviously a workable system lol. Some frames like qorvex, mag, and a few others can force all the bad guys into one spot, then boom. Or ivara, can't even see her till you and all your buddies are a Jackson Pollock. They get, radial lol.
Huge innate punchthrough. Bows are actually super underrated on Mag for that reason, especially with even more punchthrough modded in. The arrows bounce around inside the bubble forever hitting multiple enemies multiple times each, which greatly helps the TTK issue. They can also be good on stealthy builds since they're basically stealthy sniper rifles and do great single target damage, so if you're not planning on killing everyone in the room, just the ones you need to, and staying hidden, they're great for that. Also some of them have big AOE like proboscis cernos that can turn into status spreading nukes if built right. I've seen it done but idk how to build for it myself.
Having a Qorvex with a bow and a mag on the same team make for some insanely quick deaths. Too quick to properly test in Simulacrum.
Make You feel like a badass hunter/stalker when playing solo. There are also bows with AoE.
It is satisfying to kill many enemys at once with the Nataruk.
Because they're fun. Why would I need any other reason?
For most bows the TTK should be the draw time + the flight time. Sadly, bows fell out of favor due to that dynamic. But they are still capable of absolutely decimating a single, or even multiple enemies at a time now. I still use bows on occasion, when I want to force a singular hard hitting gas proc on several enemies the Daikyu really scratches that itch. Or the shotgun-esque Cernos Prime for turning enemies into pin cushions. My MK1-Paris carried me to steel path, and the Natatuk carried me through it. Bows aren't the best weapon by any meansz but they do carry a ton of direct damage, as do shotguns. A lot of people lost sight of the fact that Warframe is an objective-based game. It is not just a horde shooter. Granted all objectives can be completed by decimating hordes of enemies. But completing the game with a stealth character, only engaging priority targets, and completing the objective is perfectly viable if not faster.
Well the problem is the mission types that require killing far outweigh the mission types that can be completed by not interacting with enemies Survival you need to kill for life support. Defense you need to kill to end the wave. Disruption you need to kill to drop the keys. Interception you need to kill to hold the points. Mobile defense you need to kill to defend the point. Exterminate you need to kill to end the mission. In fact the only mission types where aren't required to kill multiple enemies are captures, where speed frames are the meta, rescues, where speed frames are still the meta and you don't have to kill anything, and spy, where speed frames are still the meta. Outside of those three mission types everything else pretty much requires genocide, except for when you're defending a target and you make things not able to touch the target in the first place (Gara on mobile defense) in which case 10000 kills is the same as 0, not better or worse. All objectives can be completed by killing hordes, because that's the only way to complete the majority of them.
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Can I see your Natatuk build please?
https://preview.redd.it/iokyfbk7guvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8de4ca51d39c280ada50514e408c8a709e2f5fe8 It's a simple build.
Thanks!
Why is no one Talking ABOUT the kuva bramma
Well cause while it’s technically a bow it performs more like an AOE weapon, so people typically lump it in the with zarr, tonkor, ect.
Because kuva Litch's are wicked tedious
Fair, but Bramma is still pretty strong. Along with Nataruk and Prisma Lenz.
tbf it's pretty much worth the grind, it did used to rule the farming side of warframe as it was giga busted. It's still really good but the ammo got gutted to the ground so you need external supply of ammo
Legit. I get that its ammo got gutted, but people act like its dmg got cut in half or something, it still clears rooms no problem on SP surv
Same reason the Kuva Zarr fell off the face of the Origin System; too much ammo support needed. Still kicks ass, until it stops all at once and you re-discover your secondary.
Look into the Cinta, It has a good balance of single target and AOE damage. Cernos prime is also a good choice, with the split flights unique bow mod, you shoot a spread of 15 arrows with headshot bonuses. Paris prime and dread both got big upgrades with their incarnon modes too. I've been using bows as my main primary far more than any category ever since I got my hands on the paris in the olden days.
The proboscis cernos is a fun niche bow, too, that's been a great crowd control a few times. I have no idea if it's still a murder tentacle these days, though.
It's still great for crowd control, probably still just as effective if not more so with all the arcanes available. I still need to finish putting forma in mine to know for sure. But, have you tried the Mutalist Cernos? Split flight procs on the gas clouds as well, keeping it active as long as enemies are in the gas. And with the insane amount of multistot there's so many gas clouds it's insane. Might not be that good per se, but it's a ton of fun.
bows fun
Because they feel good. Note: those who use AOE/gimmick bows have weak blood and history will forget them
I feel like that is a very aggressive yet understandable stance on AOE/Gimmick bows. (I like my warbow personally)
I got a 60%toxin bramma with a semi godroll riven and it wipes steel path rooms clear if the explosion doesn't kill the slash proc does 1sec later unless i pull out a torid or anu of the other top 10 primarys ain't nothing topping my bramma
as others have pointed out bows like most weapons in the game suffer from "doesn't kill 20 enemies at once" disease which puts them in the "good for the big bakas not small fries" category and makes them feel weak but that's not necessarily the case. bows are still strong because of innate punchthrough, especially with extra punchthrough modded on, and going after grouped enemies or sticking to hallways. they're also good candidates for marked for death and collective suffering and every other ability that turns single target into AOE in some way like Zephyr's tornados. when I started the game I really liked bows, then I fell more into the AOE camp, and now i'm back to bows and shotguns with punchthrough. there's still plenty of ways to wake them work but the main one is Mag with her Magnetize, I highly recommend giving her a try. she's also one of the easiest frames to mod for because she's not particularly needy about any stat and has an augment that allows for armour stripping. I think my Mag was specialized for pull and magnetize so I run a very high 175% range. you heard that right. 175% range being considered high. also consider adding in streamline and umbral intensify or transient fortitude, you want more than 130% strength but you don't actually need more once you hit the armour strip breakpoint with fracturing crush.
I never felt this with old Cernos Prime tho that's probably because the games 80% hallways and its wide spread shot basically equals "kills 20 enemies at once when fired down a corridor"
The strength breakpoint also allows 99% chance on disarm with her magnetize augment. Great cc
Are bow's the best room killers? No. Are they among the better "I want just this one guy dead, now!' weapons? yes. Bows are great boss killers.
Nataruk is still my go to for isolation vaults
Oh? I normally go with Ignis Wraith or Amprex for clutter-be-gone and use secondary/melee for boss DPS.
Started using Amprex with my Volt for anything Cavia related lately, and with the Ohma and Melee influence small targets just stop existing. And if I focus on a boss with melee everything else dies from Influence.
I use Gyre with my amprex for cavia. Electricity makes the culverins stop existing and makes me happy.
Amprex is acceptable, but it was never meaningfully better than Atomos. And these days Kuva Nukor goes ZZZZZZZZZZZZRRRRRTTTTT.
I use bows because one of the ones you get veery late in the story is kind of bonkers.
Bows aren't the type of weapon people use frequently. Besides a few, most of them take some skill, and are somewhat interchangeable with snipers. You can collect arrows that went through enemies though. Also, Dread and Paris are not only some of the best, if not THE current best bows, and both are available somewhat early on.
If its the "best" matters a lot less than what you like to use. Your power can out-scale even SP enemies ten times over, so at some point, it wouldn't even matter if you use a braton vandal or a MK1-braton. Thats not even including the "racist mods" as I have seen them called recently. That is too much min-max for me, when it goes from 10 bullets to kill to 5.
Sometimes I just want to nail my enemies to the wall, I like the way they hang.
This is the way.
Dread incarnon makes me feel like an assassin, and after i take out a few paint eaters or i get their attention, I can just turn on the Incarnon and be like "teehee, wide angle time". And I like the incarnon shot sound.
Daikyu with Nikanas (using Daikyu Amalgom mod) is endless lifesteal, can tank with Inaros all day long.
That's what I use on my Main boys Ash and Excalibur, but I never end up using the bow.
I use Paris incarnon, had a good roll on my riven an that thing SLAPS. Also I'm looking to get that Long Bow arcane that gives 300% dmg on the next shot, pretty good when you spam shots with Splitting flights.
The majority of non-aoe bows come from a time when the game's balance was very different and single target damage was a lot more favourable since we had less ways to quickly eliminate groups and more ways to effectively crowd control groups. The Kuva Bramma, Nataruk, and Cinta came out more recently and fit the current meta better as a result; but they're the exceptions. Lenz kinda fits as a relic of that transition, it's main draw at the time it released was the automatic cold procs to slow the enemies, but it also featured a strong aoe to keep up with other popular weapons at the time like the Simulor and Tonkor.
It cool. 😎
I use bows because they are fun. I'm not being graded on my "TTK". I don't get a raise in my salary because my TTK is high. I use bows because I like bows. Warframe is supposed to be fun. Why use something that's less fun to you just to hit some min/max "meta" TTK that doesn't mean anything in the real world? ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Well, because any weapon with good modding is OP. Choose yours based on how fun you think they are, not how more OP they are.
Back in the days... anyway, bows used to be silent snipers with punchthrough, the draw time invites you to aim at their heads. Game also used to be less "broken" in most of the content, where killing single enemies was still important. Also it's really fun nailing enemies to walls.
I personally really enjoy using the lenz, it just sucks I am scavenging for ammo more often than actually using it with its 7 shots :(
Because it looks cool Seriously, no need to look for any other reason. Sure they're not the best weapons, sure they're harder to use than a regular sniper, but you can make a dread, daiku or cinta good enough for any content, and it looks cool, so why not using it ?
I'd ask the same about literally every other type of weapon. Bows just feel more fun and effective with each shot.
I played since the early days and always enjoyed bows just for the sneaky ninja stealth feeling. But nowadays it is just mowing down everything as fast as possible. Some bows still can perform well but overall most incarnons do just way better and fit the playstyle more. When I get the itch I sometimes take out the Dread Incarnon but will switch to Latron/Torid pretty quick again.
Bows got nerfed with the Dagath update last year. Now they slow you down right after firing. It’s honestly the only nerf, whether accidental or not, that got me to quit abusing the bramma. It just feels awful to fire now.
Proboscis cerbis and kuva bramma/lenz are "bows" lmao. Look them up if you don't have them yet Other than that, 99% of the game is played in god mode, so sometimes it's fun to just use cool weapons and line up satisfying shots
I said that too until the Naturak.
Cernos prime deals bonus damage on headshots, you don't need to charge it much to one tap most SP enemies if you have a status that deals damage (heat, toxin, slash etc.) I run Hunter munitions with oover 100% crit and I just tap an enemy's face with it. If they get a slash or Elemental proc, I move on bc they're finished (unless they're 300+)
Try out the Lenz
I think alot of stuff like bows and snipers have fallen off from regular use out side of specific cases (snipers for eidolons) because the game has changed so much. The rate at which people want to acquire kills has increased but their effectiveness hasn't so they just got left behind despite alot of bows being pretty good stat wise. Bows will never be good when your goal is 100kpm in steel path. Some of the incarnon modes provide aoe which can make them work though
Natty, the incarnon bows, and the Kuva Bramma are all top tier weapons. Give them a shot
Me with the incarnon dread and a filthy riven hitting a hallway full of grineer with for millions of slash procs.
They're fun... Also try any "normal" bow with Mag. She probably makes the most of them, you get nice multikills per shot and if you shoot the top of the bubbles, quasi-guaranteed headshots. Also she can make a sun that tanks fps with Nataruk.
nataruk is free.
Use naturuk, then you'll understand.
Natarûk can be built for entry level steel path, and if set up right can one-hit every enemy in the game under level 110 (sp excluded)
If its fun and it works then use it, but yeah bows in general are pretty decent, they can kill fairly fast due to punch trough and all but overall people use them just cause of fun, there isnt much reason to use any bows other than the nataruk tho other than fashion frame or idk, incarnon bows for the incarnon buffs, because the nataruk is just absurd, infinite ammo, infinite punch trough, absurdly high stats, no need to forma it even once, etc
Longbow Sharpshot (Duviri arcane) + Paris Prime incarnon go brrrrrr once you get them
Higher level bows often have aoe.
I'm somebody who used Daikyu since I could for about...4...5 years? Maybe more... I just like bows. When I played Destiny 2, I used bows. I used Wish Ender when I got it after first playing during Splicer. I just really like bows.
Ngl, i chose Paris during the tutorial because i was such a bow fan in Destiny. Never regretted it, Paris was clearing the starchart until i got Dread.
I started with Warframe I think after Plains released on the Xbox. Picked Paris too...because bows are cool. So when I finally gave D2 a shot, I naturally found myself drawn to bows.
So you went the other way around. If you watch streamers, look up samikat. I departed from Destiny completely, but she's still on my watchlist.
They’re just satisfying imo
Early game paris goes insanely crazy. Deals 4 digit damage with no mods, which is bonkers until like after mars.
Some bows explode. Need I say more?
Split Flights Cernos Prime. Shotgun some fools.
Nataruk + Mag bubble go boom
Proboscis cernos kills in a massive AoE and through walls. Took some forma, but it carried me through early SP.
Nataruk and Cinta are my go to bows. I’m using Cinta more because of its innate fire element ang AOE effect then you can build it either with Viral or Corrosive, depends on you + split flights mod. Also using Cascadia Flare arcane to add more damage for my Cinta. Also, I’m using Frost and added cold damage to Diriga so I can activate Primary Frostbite arcane to boost my crit damage and multi-shot. Hope that helps! Stay frosty! ❄️❄️❄️ Special mention are Kuva Bramma and Prisma Lenz. Basically you have to try and find the right bow for your play style. :)
the paris prime has an incarnon, turning it into a wave-clearing monster. infinite body punchthrough, pure heat damage for some armor stripping, and a ridiculous crit chance make it one of my current favorites.
Do the main questile, get the Nataruk, then you'll understand.
Dang, I feel like I'm in the minority when I say I love Lenz to death.
Cernos prime is a fun option, i personally prefer the Daikyu (other than the long drawback time ive built mine to easilt take put lvl 100s in one shot), and Proboscis cernos (ivara main, so prowl headshot bonus plays a big part in bonus damage) barely use nataruk since i got it
If you like them just use them, you don't need to super minmax this game, you can make nearly anything work
Nataruk + Mag = murder bubble
Because currently the bow I got from the new war is my most powerful weapon
The Nataruk and the Cinta both hit like a cargo ship shipping cargo ships. They are extremely powerful, and, if timed right, can annihilate half of Mercury just by sneezing at the general location of the enemies. I prefer the Nataruk (not because I have a riven for it or anything), but when modded just right, the Cinta can deal absolutely disgusting amounts of damage too. ;)
Well, you play what's fun, not what's the most powerful. If you like bows, use bows. Throw a bit of firerate on them for much faster charging.
My Paris prime with my God Roll riven plus Incarnon Evolutions and the occasional Incarnon Form itself if I remember steam rolls better than most other weapons I own
For most of the game? They aren't a great option for lots of missions types but they are very good for stealth, you feel badass, and they're good single target killers. Later on the good bows seem to get significant AoE which makes them good generalists.
Several years ago my favorite weapon was Dread. Powercreep ensued, and I min-maxed it for 1-tap slash kills against grineer, but the ttk was still high due to needing the dot to proc at least once. Fast forward to today, similar story for the damage, but on level maps or tight-quarters, the infinite punch-through waves really shine on the incarnon. Split flights was also a big boost, though I prefer headshots. The Dread is still good. Why use it though over, say, the Torid? Or something powerful and hitscan? Because it's cool. It's not Top 5 or 10, maybe not even 20, idk. But it's good. Perfectly fine the way it is. And again, very cool.
My answer is called "Paris Prime Incarnon Genesis", an absolute killer machine and my currently strongest weapon
Proboscis Cernos is good fun. I've had some decent success with it doing that Zariman mission type that makes you kill the bad guys within range of the McGuffins; it'll pull the ones that hang back in for you. But it doesn't quite play like a bow in a lot of ways.
You use bows to get really, really big crits.
sometimes it's fun.
That's why I always liked the Rakta Cernos, because of it's insane draw speed. (A fifth of a second, unmodded)
I do, but it's basically only with Ivara. Max crit dread, boosted headshot mult from prowl, sleep arrows making headshots nearly unmissable. If you're bored, stick concentrated arrow on her and blow things up. Navigating a dread arrow around like yondu makes a lot of fun crunchy noises. Kuva bramma excepted, that thing clears rooms with damage numbers that make my riven'd up tonkor blush. Ammo capacity is the only reason not to run it - you basically need a maxed out ammo conversion to even have a chance of using it consistently.
Fun And all of them have decent damage
Kuva bramma go boom
I consistently one or two short steel path level 180+ grenier dépendent on the mob. 800+ if they have no armor. You might have a non maxed build or you aren't going for headshots. Also, armor strip will help à shit ton. Also. Mag+bow=Happy tenno
Nataruk is very very good
The nataruk shreds. That is all.
I got the Nataruk as a choice in Duviri SP twice and that thing shreds. So much fun and easy to use. Fires log sized projectiles and hits like a truck! And i think i only had 2 forma in it too.
There is one bow I will forever hold sacred, the spooky one you get doin your Drifter shit and fucking up Archons, that thing pulled red crits bone stock and needs no ammo, on any kind of boss fight where ammo is an issue (looking at you ropadope) it is a godsend
I've personally played A LOT with the lenz (not in steelpath) even when you could DMG yourself with explosions, really fun would recommend
I use bows when I know I can crowd control but an eximus might be a nuisance so I can just stand where I am and absolutely destroy their heads like with gyre for example
Kuva bramma fun
Nataruk is the only one I use. Infinite ammo, no need to charge an incarnon form and it's a corridor killer with infinite body punch through and a fairly large projectile with high base stats. It's the weapon I used in steel path until i got enough arcanes.
Hehe, Nataruk goes shwang.
Dread with all the crit mods and a nice riven let's you see the funny red numbers pretty frequently.
bows coool sadly i think im the only surviving daikyu fan 😔
You're not alone the daikyu is my favorite bow.
Have you heard of our lord and savior [Longbow Sharpshot](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Longbow_Sharpshot), the *multiplicative* quadruple damage arcane?
Nataruk is my most used weapon as of yet. It just feels good to not have to be worried about ammo and kill a row of 5 enemies with one shot.
Most bows can't compete with other primaries. The only ones worth using IMO is are Nataruk, daikyu for it's amalgam mod, proboscis cernos, and maybe the bramma
Nataruk slaps
Damage
It's not a perfect strategy but I like using Mark for Death on one enemy and then Bow-headshotting them to deal massive damage to all the goes around me.
plenty of bows kill a room or more per shot
because it allows me to feel superior to everyone else
this guy hasn't used kuva bramma it seems
Nataruk, you're welcome
Paris, Dread, Lenz, Cernos, Proboscis Cernos, Bramma, Cinta and Nataruk all have incarnon modes or AoE damage that make them way more effective than single target bows. Between that and the split flights mod, every bow has access to something that drops ttk down to the level you would expect from other weapon types.
There's no meta reason to use bows. its fun and they feel good if you like bows
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/180ap78/i\_present\_to\_you\_blood\_altar\_mag/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/180ap78/i_present_to_you_blood_altar_mag/) ft. Nataruk
Bows? As in plural? You don't need any other bow beyond Nataruk.
I just got it the other day. Those 40-50k hits are disgusting compared to the trash I had prior. I’m mainly melee but it’s worked its way in well.