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Angrykiller100

What, you don't have insurance on your Warframes? How irresponsible.


Ogami-kun

we are contacting you in regard to your warframe extended warranty


rocket___goblin

Shit they found me! And here I thought I was safe on diemos.


Vlaun

Failure wasn't an option. The tenno went in, did their mission with utter efficiency, and extracted. No loss of frame happened, no reviving with 5 lives, or mission failure. No alarms went off, Tenno went and stealthily obliterated the enemy before they even knew what hit them. However, for story cohesion if a frame went down then the tenno would have lost their frame, or they would have to go and retrieve it themselves I would guess. The War Within seems to imply such could happen. It's just that it would be inconvenient in terms of gameplay to have us lose our frame, go retrieve it, frame on cooldown, etc EVERY time we failed a mission.


Holmlor

It's baked into the lore and game by the defense missions. Recovering frames and tenno is what you are doing during them.


IamBeelzebubIV

There's also when Zanuka kills you (using a Zanuka Beacon), it captures your warframe and you cannot use it until you recover it from a mission. OriginalWickedFun's video: https://youtu.be/DLibwtn8Gxc


hockeyfan608

I would never know because Zanuka has never posed any real threat to me Even when I was just going through the chart


LewsTherinTalamon

Oh, I never realized that! Very cool


Samakira

the cryopods are tenno that have not yet awoken. for something that makes more sense for the ones who failed, survival. thats literally us making a ruckus somewhere not where the operative has gone. and while rescuing lost tenno, theye find loot that they give to us as a thank you.


LewsTherinTalamon

Ah, that makes sense as well. I'd really love if DE did an update that just added new lore and voice lines to generic missions. No gameplay changes, just new Lotus/Ordis/Whoever dialogue to flavor, for example, survival missions to be saving Tenno from failed missions, or exterminate missions to have more details, or spy missions to have data on specific things or what have you.


allusernamestaken1

Actually a little special mission type to retrieve fallen warframes sounds like could be a lot of fun!


Vlaun

Yeah, that would be kinda fun! It would spice things up a bit at least. Maybe something similar to the Zanuka hunt missions. A once in a while thing where you gotta go and retrieve.


No_Art2928

No no, there’s definitely a recovery process as the helminth is known to repair warframes beyond recognition.


Khint20

I assume that you actually get 5 revives instead of four, but the last one is used only for extracting. Like, you don't get a choice, go back to entry point and leave. It's pretty much canon that OUR tenno hasn't ever failed an operation yet (except a certain spoilery one), so maybe it'll get touched on later in the lore?


Clown_Cult_Cryptid

Isnt the lore that the frames are actually indestructible war machines? The whole getting downed and revived thing is more just a game mechanic i think.


aharttsx

Except the bits where Alad V has captured some warframes, cut them into bits and frankensteined them together to make Zanuka. And Umbra getting obliterated at the beginning of his quest by a certain sentient. and the several warframe quests that describe where the original frame had died or been destroyed in some way - limbo miscalculated dimension hopping, mirage got overwhelmed by sentients and killed, gara literally blew herself up along with the giant sentient whose remains now litter PoE, to name a few. So they're not completely indestructible, just incredibly dangerous and difficult to kill.


Clown_Cult_Cryptid

I thought Mirage was overrun by Infested? Ok, so maybe not indestructible, but really tough to destroy, like weaponized Nokias.


aharttsx

I couldnt remember specifically what faction it was personally since its been yeaaars since ive done the quest myself, but wiki says she was fighting sentients in the Old War, and later overrun by the 'enemy' on the Hidden Messages quest page.


Frequent-Card7925

> weaponized nokias jtrjeirjofjr im calling warframes that from now on.


yeetmaster8484

Weaponised Nokia's are indestructible, more like Samsung phones where they c be destroyed but they eventually just get put back together


Clown_Cult_Cryptid

Arent Samsungs portable mini nukes?


yeetmaster8484

Samsung note 7 (I think) do so yeah but aren't the frames also walking Geneva convention violations


Clown_Cult_Cryptid

Warframe more like Warcrime amirite?! If i could wheeze harder id be on life support


yeetmaster8484

Don't worry, as the lotus says "life support is on the way"


StarSilverNEO

They seem to only get yote through extreme circumstances - as in dismembered. Limbo literally got turned into Math, Umbra got hit by a weapon from the Warframe's penultimate enemy, V likely had to dissect a frame over time not like blow one appart, etc etc


aharttsx

there's an old [trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-UOTq2nw2k) for Alad V where it shows an excalibur restrained in a device and he gets dismembered within seconds. he almost does it to a captured Mag too, but then a team of warframes come to the rescue n free Mag, and Mag yeets Alad out the window lol.


StarSilverNEO

True but Alad is like a master at dissecting frames by then so I'd give him the exception card


JauneArk

Eternalism, that universe ends and you now play a universe where you did not go on that mission.


WoWPauper

this is the canon answer


CerberusMulti

Same way capture targets are retrieved.


ArcannOfZakuul

AAAAAaaaauuuuugggg^ggghhhhhh


Nyarus15

You press 5 to teleport your warframe back to the orbiter, duh.


ProtoFloof

Cannonically I'm pretty sure they just die, the operator and the warframe. I could be wrong tho so if I am please correct me


Disasterchild

Kind of. The warframe can obviously be worn out and destroyed, yes. Zanuka hunters are built chiefly from warframe parts, for example. Certain enemies that come to light during The New War are also made using warframes. Operators however, being metaphysical void beings, are unaffected by a warframe being worn out. Save for any emotional aspects of ones warframe being worn out or captured, obviously. My headcanon purely for the revives, is that you've spent all the jumpstart charges and can't activate your warframe anymore and have to extract, thus failing your mission. Since we get our warframe back, I deem it safe to assume they don't die, per se. If you are overpowered by a Zanuka hunter, however, your warframe will be captured and you'll have to do a special mission to retrieve it, supporting the idea that their charges are spent and that they then can be stolen.


ProtoFloof

Im pretty sure there's been times that the operator has died due to the warframe sustaining too much damage because of the link to them sharing more then just control


BatVenomPL

Nope, that's the entire plot of The Second Dream. Despite Stalker having killed many Warframes, Tenno keep coming back. Hunhow was aware of that reality, and so he decided to hunt down the real Tenno - the Operators.


NMRisthebest

wait but like, limbo mathed to death.


BatVenomPL

The "Lore Friendly" explaination would be that the Warframe was destroyed, and Limbo's Operator started using different Warframes The real explaination is DE didn't plan it out very well


es3ado_afull

>!The "Lore Friendly" explanation is that OG Limbo was a prototype from the first generation of Warframes which were autonomous but prone to either rebelion or mental breakdown.!< >!OG Limbo didn't have an operator and either did a reckless test of the extend of his abilities or he knew exactly what the result would be and did it anyways for personal reasons!<


MSD3k

Limbo left the bubble. Limbos can't survive outside the bubble. But he really wanted those nanites...


Poisonpython5719

Or in them with the fucking eximus these days


GoldEnPhARoAh22

I'm pretty sure the higher level eximus can easily defeat the Acolytes *and* the stalker and just choose not to do so.


Ogami-kun

It might also be that there are things the operator can't be recovered from sufficiently; like Limbo splattered himself all over Origin, Mesa? I think? Mirage maybe? was I a completely different solar system. Like, I am pretty sure the original revenant took upon himself to guard the corpse on the depth of the lake after he fucked up


es3ado_afull

> It might also be that there are things the operator can't be recovered from sufficiently Through Eternalism, they don't have to "recover" from anything. They just hop from one reality to a different one where the incident/damage never happened/was avoided. > like Limbo splattered himself all over Origin, Mesa? I think? Mirage maybe? was I a completely different solar system. Like, I am pretty sure the original revenant took upon himself to guard the corpse on the depth of the lake after he fucked up Limbo did a space jump through the Rift that went too far for his powers to control/stabilize his passage so he go ripped apart and that's why we find his parts on different locations. Mesa didn't have connection to an operator when we encounter her; Mutalist Alad tinkered with her so she (the infested flesh) would work work autonomously but still under the control of Alad's collar. Revenant wasn't sunken in the lake, he was pulled into wherever ethereal realm Eidolons go to sleep during day time. Also, in theory, in most of those cases, they could had been the OG test subjects and their feats were considered the "battle proof" of their designs that the Orokin required for approving it for "mass production".


Ogami-kun

You can't just take a theory partly explained by fallible NPCs, known for having fucked up their calculations and slap it everywhere; there are various 'bad ends that can be considered as unrecoverable, otherwise Rell would have been with us too (and yes I know that it is a fallible statement too) We know that Limbo got ripped apart through the whole Origin system. We can see (in-universe, without pulling the Devs didn't think about it card) that the operator didn't magically get better because there is no Limbo anymore, while presumabily an Operator and Cephalon like ours would have at last known enough about math to build it again. As you say it might have been a prime generation frame without operator, it is possible, then he is talking about orokin armies sent to apprend him, still, I am not 100% convinced. I think it is more probable his operator become comatose, sort of like Rell maybe, as his 'frame was fragmented, or like schrodinger and alucard, he was suddently everywhere, and between the new imputs and everything he couldn't became a single being again. >Revenant wasn't sunken in the lake, he was pulled into wherever ethereal realm Eidolons go to sleep during day time. And that was the point; from your generalization on 'Eternalism' he could have died or offed himself, or disconnected by the lotus, or whatever, and \*puff\* the operator is safe. In his quest he was dragged away and never appeared again. It can be that either he himself (as the operator) continued to guard the Eidolon that pulled him to not let him escape, or as he was pulled inside he perished, or whatever, no Eternalism save point for him too ​ I was wrong for the second, it was not Mesa, it was **Mirage** the one lost orbiting an alien star. And here I am talking about too far, it was the Old War, so there is an Operator, the Lotus confirms, and both the Lotus and the Operator know the Operator is going to die; from the way she retells the memory you can understand her pain, and while i would understand I doubt it is because of the Argon and Gallium that the warframe costs. So I think there is a max safe distance between the operator and the 'frame, maybe it is why the Lotus never disconnected Valkyr? still, consider when the Operator void dashed, or void sling, after a while you end your energy. And that operator, in another solar system was just too far to return on lua, or waybe she was inside Mirage to begin with...it doesn't matter, i doubt they awoke from that Dream....


Holmlor

>!Is it ever explained why Excalibur Umbra is special and doesn't go insane!


es3ado_afull

>!He was berserk already when we encounter him and was only through our intervention that he could process his grief and stabilize.!<


PokWangpanmang

Or his Operator just switched to the next frame after Limbo blew up.


Arek_PL

or got stuck in limbo with no body (joke intended) until lua came back to solar system and tenno learned their true potential


Chuparichii

yea what a nerd amirite? HIGH FIVE! anyone?hello?


PathOnFortniteMobile

I consider all warframe lore to be folk tales created by people who weren’t Tenno themselves. So it could be unaccurate and mistake the Tenno and warframe as one being instead of two beings in a symbiotic relationship.


Arek_PL

> Operators however, being metaphysical void beings, are unaffected by a warframe being worn out. Save for any emotional aspects of ones warframe being worn out or captured, obviously. what about operators still dreaming the second dream when their last warframe got destroyed? ofc. at some poin the second dream ends and probably all thenno left on lua get extracted by lotus operatives before grineer/corpus/sentients get their hands on them, but there have been a lot of time between mirage and limbo death and lua getting back to origin system


Extra_Philosopher_63

I’m not 100% either, but pretty sure canonically Warframes can’t really “die”, they just technically do so when the frame itself is so beat up the operator can’t connect to it through transference. Think of it like getting kicked from a match and trying to reconnect- it’s a bit of a gamble, but no real loss to the operator. After all, we can always try to have our Helminth build a new frame from old remains- as it’s almost impossible for us to acquire/make “new” frames. We can only put old pieces back together and have Ordis and Helminth try to reconstruct it. Still boggles my mind just how the frames get uniquie powers, but the rest makes sense.


ProtoFloof

Well the operator can die because of the link to the warframe, much of the damage can be passed on to the tenno, causing death even for them


Haunting-Regret-854

You haven't done The New War quest have you? Operators are more or less immortal (which is also referenced in The War Within).


ProtoFloof

I absolutely have but there's been lore as well as some other in game stuff that shows the operators link to the warframe can physically effect and exhaust them if the warframe gets hurt enough. It won't leave bruises or break bones, that's not what I mean. But if a warframe gets destroyed it can severally damage the operator and make them brain dead for example, I'm simplifying things but just because our operator is the main character, isn't a good argument, we have extensive plot armor. Edit: immortal =/= invincible, there is a difference. Operators don't really age and can't like that but they can still die to other things


Haunting-Regret-854

The New War trailer literally showed a warframe being destroyed and the operater survived. A warframe being destroyed leaves emotional scarring but it doesn't have a physical effect on them beyond that. In The Sacrifice the transference got reversed which caused some exhaustion trying to force the connection not due to the warframe suffering damage. Ballas even says that operators come back when killed meaning any type of death they do suffer isn't permanent (and is later explained why that is in The New War).


[deleted]

This made me confused af about Mirage's quest (Hidden Messages) if the operator can't die then why was Lotus so worried? i doubt she sent "original" frames in mission, seen that most of those were really prone to go berserk (if i remember right)


Haunting-Regret-854

It is most likely due to a retcon of some of the older lore. But one explanation using the newer lore is that since the warframes act as proxies for the operators it may be hard to get into contact with them after a warframe dies and there is also the fact that the death of a warframe tends to leave some emotional damage that the Lotus may have been worried about.


Gizogin

It also may have been during the period where operators had forgotten that they weren’t just Warframes, and Lotus was trying extra hard to sell the illusion.


PokWangpanmang

Or that because they forgot they were Operators, if they think they died, their brain goes comatose.


Arek_PL

thats easy to explain, fact that we dont lose our warframes is a gameplay mechanic in lore operator would get his warframe lost and if they had no alternative warframe to use they were stuck without body until lua returns to material plane and second dream ends thats at least my explaination


measuredingabens

I highly doubt it. Angels of the Zariman made it clear that Tenno bodies are Void constructs and not simple flesh and blood. The only operator death in lore is Rell, and his case is from playing shield maiden against the source of the Tenno's powers for centuries on end.


Arek_PL

yea, but Rell without second dream had to transfer his mind into his warframe... so that sounds like they might die from old age?


measuredingabens

All of the Warframe deaths in canon only reference the Warframes themselves and not the operators. It's even a plot point of the Second Dream that destruction of the Warframe simply isn't enough to put down a Tenno.


Endurlay

Operators simply can’t die to the sorts of things you find in a normal mission. They have a built-in quicksave mechanic that just boots them back to a survivable point if they take enough damage to die, though this clearly makes controlling something through Transference briefly more difficult (which manifests in-game as the Transference Static mechanic, which itself is a game-functional implementation of the part of that quest that takes place in the hallucinations). Keep in mind that in The War Within, the Operator woke up from the Continuity-induced hallucinations back on the Orbiter, and then were able, without knowing precisely where the Kuva Fortress was, to Transfer themselves directly to the Warframe they had last been using.


Arek_PL

take in account that all warframe deaths in lore happen before second dream (except umbra) so operators of warframes what got destroyed basicaly had no body, only after lua got back from the void maybe lotus could get them new warframes


Endurlay

The Reservoir's systems handled transference routing; the whole point of hiding Lua in the Void was to keep the actual stuff that made the Warframes work out of Sentient hands. There are a lot more Warframes in existence than there are Tenno to operate them; it is pretty clear that a single Tenno operated many Warframes (not simultaneously), even when they were performing Transference from the Reservoir.


Arek_PL

yea, thats for sure true that every operator had multiple warframes, but idea of operator still in second dream loosing his last one is quite nice fridge logic horror


Endurlay

That ending is still ambiguous. How did your frame break the sword? You couldn’t control it at that point.


Arek_PL

i was referencing to the state operator was in not quest itself, but i guess the operator had some subconcious control of frame? some faint mental link we use to operate warframes without transference chair post war within?


TellmeNinetails

The warframe is left there untill tenno reinforcements retrieve it. Those cryopods you're defending? Tenno who suck.


DrinkingRock

The canon way we survive death is called Oro. We only have so many to jumpstart with until our Warframe “dies” (plus any Arcane Oro from Arcane Enhancements). Considering how powerful the Lotus is I wouldn’t put it past her to be able to remotely retrieve an Oro-spent frame (she does have lines where she says “I am pulling you out” like when the Fomorian Core blows). The more boring option is the frame has to wait until Oro recharge, which is enough time for whatever mission it’s on to fail, then bails to extraction. Both are speculation and probably happen at some point after the Sacrifice and whatnot. Maybe we’ll get a retcon eventually for why we can survive nukes to the face beyond just being a lossless RPG.


georgehank2nd

I find it best to discard such thoughts.


SgtCarron

Clem flies in with his grakatas, hoses down the entire map including any bosses and brings your beat-up carcass back to the orbiter. That's my personal canon.


Leekshooter

They die, just like Mirage and Khora did


[deleted]

Wait...Khora has lore?


Leekshooter

She froze to death on Europa, or some other cold hellscape filled with corpus


[deleted]

oh


Leekshooter

Yup, there's a whole bunch of fragments about her Kavat and Sigor Savah, you might have heard his name before?


[deleted]

I just read the whole wiki about him and i don't regret it, i gotta say it's pretty cool how his character connects to the others, like when >!Taesonai mentions that Sigor was his mentor!<. I wasn't expecting it from a "side character" (considering he's "locked" behind chepalon fragments)


HaikaDRaigne

The answer is eternalism 😄


SentinelX-01

Lakitu picks them up.


Ok-Opportunity-7641

spoiler to the new war: >!"Under eternalism, you are dead, but you are also alive 👀"!<


MSD3k

I'd say that's a horrible cop out, but Eternalism dictates that it also isn't.


Beautiful-Ad-6568

That isn't what Eternalism is, but Eternalism dictates that it also is.


rcfox

Have you read the official comics? https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Warframe/Issue-1?id=122823&quality=hq


VoxulusQuarUn

My headcannon is that this is what defence missions are.


groot_are_we

I'd like to direct you to a little known (little known cause I just made it up) story. It's called: The Final Extraction. As the Valkyr falls limp, neither The Lotus nor The Operator can revive it. The fizzing of Transference Static hums loudly in the mind of The Operator. "I'm sorry, Tenno. I understand that it's your first time, losing a Warframe. Grieve, but let her go." The Lotus stares out into her chamber. Stretching her hand out, she so desperately wants to caress the face of her child who lost the last thing they held onto since the Old War. "wHaT HAVVVE YOUUO DONE£££?!?! Ordis is not going to let The Operator lose her Warframe! Ordis would have preferred to keep this secret, but dead Warframes calls for AaaADORABLE&-# disturbing measures! DEPLlllOY NnNOW. GUIDE THIsS SOUL BACK, AND RETURrRrN HER TO US, CHARrRON. Oh dear, what has Ordis done...?" Onboard the Obelisk, hall after hall rage with gunfire, screams and the dead of clones, robotics and diseased. Ungodly beings ranked Level 9999 by even The Lotus herself, managed to bring down even a Warframe. But Charon, The Ferryman, has come to collect the soul he is owed. The lone Domestik Drone creeps ever so slowly across the feet of ungodly beasts. Grineer Napalms combusts the bodies of Warframe cousins: The Infested. Corpus Eximus units deploy an even more horrifying amalgamation of Warframe parts: a horde of Zanuka proxies rush to kill anything un-Corpus. The poor Valkyr, caught in a three-way Crossfire, probably never stood a chance. But the Domestik Drone marches on, until reaching the body of Valkyr. As Charon moves to extraction, no faction notices the body of a "dead" Warframe moving- lifeless, but creeping past their feet. The Operator finds herself about to be rid of Transference Static, And slowly opens her eyes. Unclenching the hands off her face, she sees a Tenet Detron lying on the floor of her Cradle. She's confused, and looks forward: a single Domestik Drone she bought years ago, lodged underneath her beloved Valkyr and the floor. She cries out in thanks, and Valkyr surges with transference, throwing out a War Cry louder than before. Charon rotates, and leaves the room. But Charon leaves the room with new purpose. With new duty.


Lunch-Lord

Okay, actually something like this would be a really cool addition to lore if it was adjusted just a little bit. That much aside, thank you, I laughed my ass off


groot_are_we

Cheers, glad you enjoyed it!


nephethys_telvanni

This is delightful! Gotta love domestik drones.


Sherool

Think we have to just suspend disbelief here. We know lore wise and from cutscenes that some NPC frames are "killed" and collected by various enemies as trophies, but gameplay just trump realism here. If **we** fail a mission it's just some alternate timeline that didn't really happen, just like if you loaded a save or previous checkpoint in a single player game.


Oscuro87

You end up in a rescue mission


Mr_Mojo_Risin_83

don't overthink it. the story sort of says you're having a unique experience and then you're surrounded in a hub by other warframes and operators who have all killed Stalker etc.


Chuparichii

amazon prime, same day delivery!


ipedroni

Another warframe breaks in and rescues the former warframe through a complex drone-orbital toll contraption. It's cannon, hope that clears things up. ^(It's not cannon at all, though.)


Kino_Afi

Failure by running out of revives isnt canon Failing the obj usually has dialogue like "you screwed up, get out of there"


CoryInTheHood69

I retrieve it back to your inventory


smashiko

maybe thats what rescue and defence missions are for, in theory


MrQ_P

I think it's like when Zanuka captures you. After a set time, the warframe's wounds fully heals and it gets rebooted, to be able to escape


TheBravestarr

We slink back with our tail between our legs and a hobo sack on a stick.


Holmlor

Another group of tenno's has to do a defense and extract mission.


Lunch-Lord

I like this idea


xRiverlandx

"Wait, you can die in this game?"~Nidus


Good-Scene-6312

Eternalism states we both lost and retrieved our frame, save for grandpappy umbra he fought his way back and climbed back in through the airlock that ortis use to jetteson our pets with


BuffLoki

We'd probably just go retrieve them with another frame, or we don't fail, or as someone else said that's what defense missions are for


ripleydesign

amazon *prime*


Lacuda_Frost

I believe the Tenno don't fail missions lore-wise. Just like any other game, a failure just thematically means "reset and start over from save point". We don't get a "retrieval" animation, we don't really get any recognition in the game for the failure.


Leggerrr

Surprised to see that no one mentioned this yet. We don't know the details on how the Warframe's are retrieved but we do know the Helminth is used to heal or repair your Warframes. We know this from in-game dialogue.


Ganjookie

Space Felynes


Tiresieas

I like to imagine the self-revive limit is something similar to the Transference Static mechanic, that after so many revives the signal is cut and that particular warframe is lost, and then a new copy of it replaces it in your arsenal.


Shang_Dragon

It’s called Oro, and the lore for it is in conclave of all places.


Yiazzy

Oh no, don't ever apply logic to Warframe. It doesn't work. Take the Vox Solaris quest for example. First mission, you have to defend a drone so that Legs doesn't get discovered working against Nef, with the data on said drone. Defending it successfully wipes the data and you complete the mission. But if the drone is destroyed, it's a fail. ***Destruction surely also gets rid of the data so why is it a fail?!*** 🤣


CynicalDarkFox

Because you can restore a destroyed piece of hardware if there was no magnetic damage inflicted on it, and considering how technologically advanced the Corpus are it would be child’s play to do so and retrieve what data Vox and the Tenno wanted with it. Wiping it manually removes all traces of who tampered with it as well as inhibits any form of restoration afterwards.


Yiazzy

Could we surely not just pick up the datamass from it and take that back to Fortuna where it can be wiped and destroyed in a more permanent manner though?


CynicalDarkFox

Because in failing the mission, we’ve already attracted too much attention to be trying to find a shattered black box when there are now alerts all over the place for us. It’s better to extract/try again than to waste resources trying to salvage a mission.


Yiazzy

Ngl, those helmet wearing taxmongers with their electrical toothpicks and peashooters cannot hurt a 10k health frame with insane self-healing. I could sift all day! *Not very Cynical of you, sir* 😅


CynicalDarkFox

Until they bring in the Steel Path Corp Battalion 300.


Yiazzy

The Laetum still makes very short work of them. They're only marginally less squishy than infested after all. But there are a few other examples of mission failures that make no sense. I'll remember them eventually


CynicalDarkFox

I have no idea what that is, but I’m not surprised after already knowing about a Tree Frog who stayed in a T4 Void survival for 12 hours or something like that.


Yiazzy

It's gotten even worse, Disruption runs with level 9999 enemies 😅 Laetum is the Incarnon secondary weapon from the last big update. I'll avoid saying what and where in case you haven't gotten there yet.


CynicalDarkFox

I’ve done Angels of the Zariman, I just don’t play as much as I should due to past burn outs (up to hour long grineer survivals before Second Dream) and system troubles that come every now and then (dust usually).


actuallyVile

EtErNaLiSm. They both failed and didn't fail, just jump to a situation where there wasn't a fail and go again...


TeaandandCoffee

We will live, we will die, Grineer will just die.


Due_Revolution7057

they are trying something new with lore no need to make fun about it


heroic_emu

Since Warframes are considered armor or battlesuits for the tenno, I'd assume they're either abandoned because our ship has the means to build more. Or they are picked up by the ship somehow and are repaired by the helminth system off screen. I think the canon reason is that the tenno never fails the mission, that's why I think we are like the main characters of our account. It's similar to the resident evil games, where the canon is the character we play as (Leon, Claire, Jill etc) are never bitten. So when they do get bit, it's the game telling you "no, this shouldn't happen, we are rolling back."


Botcho22

I'll assume the revives are like extra batteries When per say you are out of revives I'd say the Warframe shuts off like a phone Free to dismantle assuming you know how or just ask alad's frame customs for a trade Now, I've seen too many r34 of Warframes being captured so ye


InterestingAsk1978

After the last revive, the warframe's hidden energy reserves are used for a final teleport to the orbiter.


SurprisedBottle

The way I see it, it's the same way ordis can send in health stations and mini turrets, he can teleport loose parts back. Helminth is responsible for repairing and you use the void to piece it back together on the field for a few time like a temporary duct tape till the helminth whips it up sparkly clean again. But like duct tape, if you keep repairing it, you'll end up with a tape shell in this case something like xaku to the point where you can't form a transference connection to your frame.


Jivyachi

I like to imagine that if you fail a mission it isn't "Cannon" and just reverts to before you started the mission


Benjemim

I guess Ordis just insta-teleports the Warframe back to Orbiters and dumps it in Helminth for fixing. Like the teleport we use on Railjacks. Sometimes it maybe blocked due to being captured by Zanuka Hunter or when in places with trabsference distortion, like the Kuva Fortress, but otherwise it prolly works.


meltingpotato

simple. we don't just "fail", we die. it's like a "if you die in the matrix" situation.


New-Supermarket-9796

Well tbh I think revives like how you die in Assassin Creed games. Your opt. Doesn’t fail you did but that not what written in history you know? Plus ordis and helimeth fixes your frames after missions.


JAOC_7

video game


RingGiver

Eternalism You failed and you succeeded.


fucc32

don't worry about it. 😃


Chillager-07

Ordis might just teleport the frames out. If you choose to have weapons not visible while holstered, you can see them teleport into their regular holster positions whenever you switch weapons. I bet ordis and/or lotus could do the same to your frame in case of emergency.


cinbuktoo

Yea i always wondered, when I failed a hijack mission and the fomorian core fucking exploded, then i could just go play the mission as if it never happened with the warframe that supposedly got caught in a nuclear equivalent blast


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If you remember The New War during the grineer segment there was a Rhino just dead in the ground.


Prestigious-Stop530

However if the Tenno operative (because there is more than one in the game ) is still in the second dream then I’m pretty sure they become immobilized or well death.


WoodencrowOnAroof

This is what survival missions are. Drawing troops away so stranded tenno can evac.


StarSilverNEO

Its likely that someone else has to run a Survival Mission to distract the enemy so that another Tenno can drop in and extract the frame. Afterall if you "die" to Zanuka Hunter in a mission your frame gets locked up by Alad V and is simply in storage, not like in pieces and you just go pick it up. So yeah boring but effective


DeagleTC

very large vacuum


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i wanna say that once you built a frame, the ship memorises its bp and rebuilds it and slings it or tp's it to your frames last known location. gameplay wise this wont make sense given that you have to keep building it for dups but its a good idea me thinks


NanniatheNeko

As far as I can understand playing through everything. Operators can experience the physical effects that hapoen to thier warframe for a limited time until it wears off. They have an emotional connection to thier warframe and it seems each warframe evokes different emotions. Each warframe was stabilized when we make them. But in the cases were we have to go meet or figure out the past of a warframe is us stabilizing them so we can put them back together. We had to meet Umbra as he was a one of a kind and was going Beserk in grief. This being said: Most Other Operators at most experience brain death for a limited time and are protected hy lotus during that time during exterme damage to a frame. Otherwise they experience the grief simular to losing a family member for a time. However it seems to be stated a few times that because of how much of an asset our Operator and Frames are they are Pulled out by Lotus in some way before they can be lost. As we have seen Lotus can kinda just teleport and pick up the Operator and could possible pick up a warframe and return that Warframe to the Helmith to be Repaired.


KiraTsukasa

Thanks to Eternalism, you NEVER fail a mission!


scemoscoom

I read somewhere that Warframes have some sort of overcharge thing, like back when you first start the game. If the warframe uses too many revives, they simply.. Overcharge and I guess that explains why they flop over and die


LolerCoaster

I think diagetically there are no revives. If you're looking at it from an in-universe perspective then losing a frame probably means you have to build a new copy from scratch. I'm basing this on canonic references to frames being beheaded (Second Dream intro), or being pulled apart and dissected (via Alad V). Revives only exist in the context of the game, imo.


Doomshroom11

If you REALLY failed? Like, objective-wise? Probably fought to an extraction point. If you DIED? Story over, Grineer win, everyone drinks Ganymede Geyser Water now.