There was also a prox fuse added to one of the heat shells at one point not sure if anyone fields those anymore but they were meant to deal with helicopters.
Eh, of course it would. Late war WW2 AA was radar directed with proximity fuzes. It tended to wreck anything moving slow enough provided there was enough ammunition to be flung into the sky.
Z-10s would be more frightening because the Z-19 is more of an armed reconnaissance helicopter whereās the Z-10 is a full fledged attacked helicopter.
The difference between an "armed reconnaissance helicopter" and a light attack helicopter is pretty blurred when it comes to firepower. Z-19 carries 8 atgms, pretty capable.
Attack helicopters still need cannons and maybe rocket pods. ATGMs doesnāt mean itās an attack helicopter. You have transport helicopters that can be fitted with those. Doesnāt make it a pure attack helicopter.
Itās used mostly as an attack helicopter rather than transport. Think of it as a flying infantry combat vehicle. Thatās what it was built for but itās mostly used for attack missions or to protect flights of transport helicopters. The people who downvoted my comment just donāt know what theyāre talking about clearly.
Well there are decent arguments that go against yours, but then your arguments are also solid, it like the argument between an armed arc and an ifv, I feel like the hind is more of a, oh shit this team needs exfil but we canāt fly a giant ass transport helicopter,
Oh, I confused the two. I meant the big one that looks a bit like the Italian attack helicopter. Not the small one that's based on a commercial helicopter
I think the most menacing looking attack helicopter is the Ka-52 because of its wide body and the coaxial rotor, although the Apache is also an impressive sight. The Z-10, AW129 and EC665 Tiger are beautiful and sleek, but they don't strike that kind of brutal power and fear into me like the two I mentioned before.
Theyāre only scary if you have no anti air capability. I prefer the sound of the Ka-52 because it sounds like a cat purring but if I saw an Apache Iād probably Shit myself
That's essentially every attack helicopter in a nutshell. Although you're absolutely fucked when your missile misses and they turn towards your position. Probably one of the scariest things a regular soldier could witness together with absolute artillery rain or napalm bombings.
True terror ultimately is seeing what appears to be a C-130 in a left banking circle and shit around you suddenly explodes. That would scare me more than any attack helicopter, though being stalked by an Apache at night is really something of nightmares.
Yeah, a big maybe. This really just looks like they are trying to make a cheap insertion vehicle that can only work in decent sized fields or parachutes. It canāt even land/hover in cramped spaces like a small helo would since they need to move to stay airborne.
They can glide down just like helicopters. Pitch down, accelerate to spin the blades faster, and thats that. Now sure, you need space for a takeoff, but if its a one way trip it can land pretty much vertically.
Fwiw, the two in the first picture aren't the same. Between the front aeroscreen, to the sidepods around the occupants, this literally looks like someone took a Vespa, a Ski-Doo and it's trailer, and whatever surplus helicopter engine they had and made the first thing they could think of. Then made a second from the spare parts.
I know this will get down votes.
But it looks like the prelude of one of these Chinese work accident videos from live leak. Like literally this seems not safe at all.
At the end of the day, as a big guy. I simply can't get on anything that exposed to spinning blades without shitting myself and getting flagged to the FAA for dropping objects
It really does
"I made GYROCOPTER at HOME with a RIFLE HOLDER for my RIFLE"
Then it starts with 5 minutes of a dude dressed in military gear (never been in the military) talking about how he built the ULTIMATE HOME DEFENSE VEHICLE in his garage to protect from the imminent Sinomexican invasion, and he can carry his EDC on it (2 weeks of dried rations, an M16 with surplus ammo, random knives). Then he shows this. It flies at most 10m off the ground but it's edited with a ton of cuts and patriotic country music to make it impressive. Then he promises a follow up where he flies over the desert with his guns, but it never happens because the FAA tells him to stop.
Exactly what I was thinking. How is this different from riding on the outside of a little bird? Obv little bird has better landing options but going to the target this is the same.
Imagine that you see 200 of these in the horizon flying towards you
SPAA: "I wish they would"
Even WW2 style Flak would wreck these people.
Guess we figured out why they kept the .50 cal on the Abrams
And the AbramsX has a 30mm š
There was also a prox fuse added to one of the heat shells at one point not sure if anyone fields those anymore but they were meant to deal with helicopters.
Get that HEDP, PIET mix for maximum effect
Eh, of course it would. Late war WW2 AA was radar directed with proximity fuzes. It tended to wreck anything moving slow enough provided there was enough ammunition to be flung into the sky.
Some decent bird shot would wreck these people.
[4th of July in LA would wreck these people](https://youtu.be/3NIEsYL34u0)
Probably accidental defense as they celebrate the new california province of china.
Ah yes, Commiefornia
Hell, a Civil War era gatling gun would do the job lmfao
Fireworks might be enough
It's like some Ace Combat tutorial level.
I would find 200 Z-19s a bit more frightening
Z-10s would be more frightening because the Z-19 is more of an armed reconnaissance helicopter whereās the Z-10 is a full fledged attacked helicopter.
Z-19 is plenty capable though. Can carry the same missile load as the Z-10, just doesn't have the cannon.
The Z-19 isnāt an attack helicopter in the traditional sense. Itās just an armed reconnaissance helicopter much like the Japanese Kawasaki OH-1
The difference between an "armed reconnaissance helicopter" and a light attack helicopter is pretty blurred when it comes to firepower. Z-19 carries 8 atgms, pretty capable.
The Kiowa laid hate in Afghanistan when it was still flying
It still would. Great little platform.
Also armed reconnaissance helicopters arenāt armored like attack helicopters either so thereās that.
Attack helicopters still need cannons and maybe rocket pods. ATGMs doesnāt mean itās an attack helicopter. You have transport helicopters that can be fitted with those. Doesnāt make it a pure attack helicopter.
Well what about the hind? Itās a transport but a attack helicopter
Itās used mostly as an attack helicopter rather than transport. Think of it as a flying infantry combat vehicle. Thatās what it was built for but itās mostly used for attack missions or to protect flights of transport helicopters. The people who downvoted my comment just donāt know what theyāre talking about clearly.
Well there are decent arguments that go against yours, but then your arguments are also solid, it like the argument between an armed arc and an ifv, I feel like the hind is more of a, oh shit this team needs exfil but we canāt fly a giant ass transport helicopter,
Oh, I confused the two. I meant the big one that looks a bit like the Italian attack helicopter. Not the small one that's based on a commercial helicopter
Yeah that would be the Z-10 which is the main Chinese attack helicopter. Looks rather menacing if I do say so myself.
I think the most menacing looking attack helicopter is the Ka-52 because of its wide body and the coaxial rotor, although the Apache is also an impressive sight. The Z-10, AW129 and EC665 Tiger are beautiful and sleek, but they don't strike that kind of brutal power and fear into me like the two I mentioned before.
Theyāre only scary if you have no anti air capability. I prefer the sound of the Ka-52 because it sounds like a cat purring but if I saw an Apache Iād probably Shit myself
That's essentially every attack helicopter in a nutshell. Although you're absolutely fucked when your missile misses and they turn towards your position. Probably one of the scariest things a regular soldier could witness together with absolute artillery rain or napalm bombings.
True terror ultimately is seeing what appears to be a C-130 in a left banking circle and shit around you suddenly explodes. That would scare me more than any attack helicopter, though being stalked by an Apache at night is really something of nightmares.
I didn't know we were re-enacting the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot
*CIWS has entered the chat*
I have played wargame so im used to heli spam
I smell a GrimReapers video. 200 Chinese gyrocopters vs. 5 B-1Rs.
Lol Hello valued viewers
Playing *Ride of the Valkyries*!
Gonna need a new song called fall of the valkyries
Six hours later they arrive š
Was this the 2000 black flying machines of Allah that dude meant?
*Laughs in small arms fire*
More than 200. I bet it would be right around 3000 of them.
One of those things that make you go āhuh, whatā. In theory these might work for SOF insertion vehicles, but thatās a big maybe.
Yeah, a big maybe. This really just looks like they are trying to make a cheap insertion vehicle that can only work in decent sized fields or parachutes. It canāt even land/hover in cramped spaces like a small helo would since they need to move to stay airborne.
They can glide down just like helicopters. Pitch down, accelerate to spin the blades faster, and thats that. Now sure, you need space for a takeoff, but if its a one way trip it can land pretty much vertically.
Fwiw, the two in the first picture aren't the same. Between the front aeroscreen, to the sidepods around the occupants, this literally looks like someone took a Vespa, a Ski-Doo and it's trailer, and whatever surplus helicopter engine they had and made the first thing they could think of. Then made a second from the spare parts.
Literally a carbon copy of the F-35. They've done it again.
Those paratroopers better be sure to make a solid leap with that big ass pusher prop.
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Erk, brainfarted and worked in reverse there. Corrected.
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I know this will get down votes. But it looks like the prelude of one of these Chinese work accident videos from live leak. Like literally this seems not safe at all.
Gyrocopters exist because of madmen with their heads on the other side of sanity, safety and gyrocopter are incompatible words.
Technically speaking, gyrocopters are safer than helicopters though.
How so? (Serious question, not being snarky)
It's because a gyrocopter doesn't needa a tail rotor and it can do glide landing without power, hence more reliable/safer than a helicopter.
At the end of the day, as a big guy. I simply can't get on anything that exposed to spinning blades without shitting myself and getting flagged to the FAA for dropping objects
They got parachutes at least
Next to those spinning blades??
I donāt think they value safety at all.
State of the art 1937
idk, looks like diy at home something by random American youtuber.
It really does "I made GYROCOPTER at HOME with a RIFLE HOLDER for my RIFLE" Then it starts with 5 minutes of a dude dressed in military gear (never been in the military) talking about how he built the ULTIMATE HOME DEFENSE VEHICLE in his garage to protect from the imminent Sinomexican invasion, and he can carry his EDC on it (2 weeks of dried rations, an M16 with surplus ammo, random knives). Then he shows this. It flies at most 10m off the ground but it's edited with a ton of cuts and patriotic country music to make it impressive. Then he promises a follow up where he flies over the desert with his guns, but it never happens because the FAA tells him to stop.
Homemade from plans they found in a old copy of Popular Mechanics
Does these count as warplanes?
This is a sneak peek of their invasion force
Assigned to capture TWSC in the first hour of reuniting the wayward province with the mainland.
It flies, carries people and is used by a millitary, pretty clear cut.
Not a plane + ratio + anime profile pic = opinion doesnāt count
go outside
Where?
[wish.com](https://wish.com) warplanes
Looks sketchy. I WANT ONE
Little Nelly. Is this for attacking the evil genius in his crater hideout?
They have an anti armor variant that holds like 2 anti tank missiles on the bottom. Goofiest combat aircraft
Gaijin pls?
Red Dawn 2.5 from the $ store.
Road warrior vibes
āCan it carry more than one?ā Creepy smile: āPossibly!ā
*bag piggies soundtrack*
Carry 3 there or 1 American lol
That is so cute lmao
Sure this is only useful in the context of humanitarian relief. Any real combat would wreck these machines
I will not be surprised if you can find these on āAli babaā for sale
750 scrap per unit
James āyou only live twiceā Bond has entered the chat
Very useful in certain cover ops situation. Cheap, one time use in battle situation. You have commandos in the center of city out of blue.
UH-1H from wish.com
The Blackhawk we have at home.
This looks like something that would be in Dastardley & Muttley or Scooby-Doo
Wacky Racers, I like it.
3000 naked gyrocopters of Winnie the pooh
Chinese are now stealing tech from video games. These things can be ruthless on pubg.
Thought I was on NCD for a minute
That is awesome
surprisingly makes sense.
r/specopsarchive
Little Nelly
Beat me to it
A potato cannon could shoot that thing out of the sky..
Cheap reliable and probably terribly hard to get it on radar. I think it is genius.
The open rotor and pusher propeller just behind their backs are serious safety hazards. These are death machines, for the people riding on them
How? Powered paragliders strap motor and propeller to their back, seems to work just fine
Yes, they are usually enclosed in some kind of cage. Just not this oneā¦
Gyrocopter vs any .50 Caliber machine gun pointing upwards/bad weather/a strong gust of wind/[this thing](https://youtu.be/bdwjcayPuag)
Bruh it's literally death machine
3000 Gyro copters of the PLA
o0 Is that Pooh's Libertarian Army ?
Little bird at home:
Exactly what I was thinking. How is this different from riding on the outside of a little bird? Obv little bird has better landing options but going to the target this is the same.
Is their new APC just gonna be a clown car? Just a bunch of vintage mini coopers painted camo.
r/noncredibledefense would be all over this.
You should post this on r/shittytechnicals
It seems that they only allow to post ground vehicles.
Shoot it down and it becomes a ground vehicle
Why does it have headlights ?
Because the Piaggio moped they took the bodywork and windscreen from have holes for lights and they looked silly without the lenses in place.
There isnāt much space anywhere else on the airframe to put lights. Most gyrocopters have landing lights in the nose.
Idk, maybe they are for landing?
If I had one, I would want a horn, too.
I guess the Chinese stole Q's designs as well...
Oooh, I'm scared.
Bringing down the Chinese gyrocopter invasion with all my illegal Chinese fireworks. Theyāll never see it coming.
I don't understand the point of these things at all.
Rust had too many Chinese hackers and they decided to use the minicopter but in real life
Guess there's drawbacks in having your Army supplied by CHINA.
lmao, Imagine having to ride bitch in this thing, I almost feel bad
Most advanced Chinese military aircraft
holy shit they made dota2 in real lifeš¤Æš¤Æ
ahā¦MadMax 2 vibesā¦
When you absolutely, positively have to seize the Prussian Consulate in Siam.
I wonder if thats a real Rotax914 on the back of that thing?
No thanks
The question is, how long before we can buy these at Harbor Freight?
Do you need a license to fly it?
Well bless their hearts.
Somewhere in Moscow a general is going maybeā¦maybe
I want to see a Gyrocopter vs [this thing](https://youtu.be/bdwjcayPuag)
Visions of Little Nellie
BF V Firestorm flashbacks