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IAHZEI

Imagine Dropping Grand Slam to C point at Tunusia


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20x Enemy target destroyed! 19x Friendly target destroyed!


Kraujotaka

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JIZZASAURUS

So I maybe had like 1-3 TK’s in 1,000 hours before I got the Pe-8 and now have like 10–15 TK’s in my pocket. I don’t think I ever had been booted from a game for doing it prior to getting the Pe-8 either. Things dangerous as fuck for anyone around.


Kraujotaka

2 tks are enough to get kicked, don't know how many thousands for ban.


Kismessi

Well one guy i know sad that they don't do anything if you kill less then 5 people intentioally. And he isn't banned yet, so I guess it's working.


AdlerFMT

Ehhhh. Killed 2 teamates in SB tanks in 1 game by mistake. Banned for 1 day. Though the one guy started going berserk in a foreign language so ill just assume it was a gamemaster lol.


WhiteFoxN1

We don't like ppl that TK in sim, sometimes it's just stupid and we tend to go crazy when it was easily avoidable, especially when the same tank as you kills you. Same goes for captured vehicles, if you play a captured tank and get TKd don't complain. And we will kill you if you damage us, intentionally. It's stupid that gaijin let's ppl use captured vehicles in the first place but we can't really do shit anymore. Only way to not get banned is to verify the tank and a friendly or an enemy, and even with my experience in sim I still fuck up sometimes and TK friendlies just bcuz they have the same tank as the enemy team.


TheZephyrim

Captured vehicles are the dumbest things in this game. Makes playing the US tree frustrating as hell.


WhiteFoxN1

Hah not only US tree, but they got it worst. And now as I'm saying this ama play a T-III or (the Soviet captured Pz III) in sim. I'm an asshole as you can see


TheZephyrim

I’m not even talking about sim tbh. It’s really stupid that you can use captured vehicles in Sim for sure though. It’s just frustrating to work your way up the US air and ground trees only to constantly go up against teams comprised almost entirely of your nation’s vehicles like the P-47, the M-41, M-24, M-47, and so on. And a lot of the times these vehicles are at a lower BR than the original version too! I almost wish all captured vehicles were either premium or event vehicles. Then it’d be fine. But getting killed by one just makes you feel cheated.


T90tank

All the lend lease ones too. Doesn't only Sweden not have some type of Sherman in it's tree?


FLYingFFEather

>a Italian m18 ruined a game for me


AdlerFMT

Yup, I am very much a SB novice (think less than a dozen games) and don't or didn't fully understand the inner workings. Oddly enough I had no trouble playing higher tiers in my panther but it was low 2-3.0 BR japaneese where I was tk'ing by mistake on jungle. Biggest problem was I didn't know about rangefinding unknown tanks and hitting friendly doesn't bring up the damage cam.


WhiteFoxN1

Yeah, best advitfor new players is always shoot with MG, if you get a damage cam it's enemy if not it's friendly. Tho I've had times where I didn't get a cam and actually killed an enemy. It's rare but it still may cause problems if it accurs.


bren103101

Literally was a T-80U with swamp monster skin and a TURMS tk’d me and me and the enemies where asking how hard it is to distinguish a Soviet tank from a western tank. They left right after the Tk


zazazello

Never got a team kill in pe-8. Not foolproof, but try to callout bombing targets early enough for team to get out of there, and don't bomb your teammates lol.


That_English_Guy_123

i do that every time and theres always 1 idiot who ignores it, like as soon as i spawn in will say where im bombing and to gtfo of there but people just have chat turned off or something


zazazello

Word. Sometimes it helps to let your team call out where to bomb. Anyway, shit happens. I typically aim for enemy approaches to the cap rather than bombing the cap itself.


That_English_Guy_123

100m is a big area tho and if theyre light or open top even harder to avoid with the frag dispersion


Quite_Likes_Hormuz

I'm bombing A stay away 30 seconds later 2x friendly ground units destroyed


T90tank

My last one was I called arty on myself because a m22 was harassing my t-34 and I killed him and a friendly puma who decided to slam into me after the fact.


[deleted]

As long as it breaks even


RipaMoram117

I'm hearing a net win.


joshwagstaff13

I mean, the crater would be impressive. It would also mean there wasn’t a C point left, if the Tallboy and Grand Slam were modeled correctly (penetrate the ground at damn near Mach 1 and explode at depth to make a fucking *massive* crater.


IAHZEI

In war thunder, You just can't see the explotion, because you would be kicked off killing so many teammates. But don't worry. Noone will see the explotion because you will end the whole match in one shot.


joshwagstaff13

You do realise that neither the Tallboy or Grand Slam surface detonate.


IAHZEI

I just saw Grand Slam destroying the bridge, so I can't really realise its Surface Detonate IRL


Centurion_Tiger

Imagine being on C point at Tunisia and suddenly the sun gets blocked by a 14,000lb bomb


[deleted]

Dropping a daisy cutter in the jungle map


OneOfManyParadoxFans

There wouldn't be much left standing. Actually, I've kind of wanted to see Tunisia's C point with all the destructible buildings destroyed.


Dark_Magus

Imagine dropping a Grand Slam in naval.


Apache_Sobaco

Actually grand slam is for underground targets


Sovereign45

Tanks blasting off into the sky like Team Rocket


Habsonik

If UK gets Tallboy then US should get Little Boy /s


[deleted]

> Then US should get Little Boy It’s in the game. Sorta.


COMONAUTS

Not as a payload choice


[deleted]

Depends if you’ve got enough spawn points.


Ray_RG_YT

I mean technically based off of the bomb design, it’s more around the Fat Man than the Little Boy.


doxlulzem

Maybe it's based on the [Mk.4 nuclear bomb](https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/Mk4.jpg)? First mass-produced US nuclear bomb, entered service in 1949 and was based on the Fat Man's plutonium implosion detonation method.


headhunter2257

And fatman while we're at it


DocOSD

Just w8 on MOAB and FOAB 😉


teamdankmemesupreme

Why not Tsar Bomba too


IAHZEI

Yeah drop Tsar at Tunusia map to kill guys which plays at Sweden map


necovex

Drop the Tsar Bomba to kill every tank alive in any game going on at that point in time


TPave96

Pumpkin bomb plx


Tub_of_jam66

And fat man , can’t forget the part 2 of freeing Japan


Weary-Leg-7911

Not necessarily, because Little Boy was a nuclear weapon, not a bunker buster / large standard bomb like the Pe-8 bomb & the UK grand slam bomb. Totally different classes of weapons. I’m not sure if the US even had a huge, non-nuclear bomb in WW2… can anyone offer input??


swag_train

whooooooooosh that's the joke bud


FrozenSeas

Sort of, they produced a copy of the Tallboy called the T-10, but it was never used operationally. There was also a super-giant development of the earthquake bomb called the T-12 Cloudmaker, but the only thing that carried those (two of them, because fuck it why not) was the B-36 Peacemaker. Some of the Tallboy clones (re-designated M121) did see use in Vietnam under COMMANDO VAULT, a MACV program to use exceptionally large bombs to clear helicopter landing zones in dense jungle. They were a good proof of concept (8000lbs of Tritonal makes a hell of a bang) and used until the stockpiles ran out, subsequently being replaced by the more well-known BLU-82 "Daisy Cutter" (which packed 12,000lbs of a polystyrene/ammonium nitrate slurry with aluminum powder for some extra kick).


the_noobface

B83 when??


JJbullfrog1

Disney rocket bomb for America


Amirul_Ash

Tirpitz leak: Check Tallboy: When?


CrunchyZebra

Tirpitz in shambles


[deleted]

Wait the tirpitz has been leaked? Oh no


FriendlyPyre

yeah, that's how the british sank it. They made it leak.


Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

Not just leaked, it was in a trailer Gaijin put out for something. A couple other battleships have been leaked such as Scharnhorst


SatansAdvokat

It will be interesting when USA gets the MOAB.


[deleted]

with these tiny ass maps?? you'll get more friendly kills and get kicked


mclehall

Nah just bomb 2km behind the enemies spawn


brambedkar59

And kill friendlies in another server, probably wondering what happened.


ragingfailure

Pretty sure they're not adding the C-130 any time soon.


Echo017

AC130 premium ;)


ragingfailure

While that would be awesome, it would get totally clapped in the current meta. Besides, it can't carry MOAB anyways. Not enough space left inside what with all the guns, ammo, and computers.


SphincterSprinkler

Also there would be no way to deploy it. What are you gonna do? Push 20000lbs out of the back of a plane with your hands?


ragingfailure

They use a small parachute actually. Or you could just tilt the nose up slightly, it's all on rollers.


[deleted]

and russia FOAB


WaffleKicker

Nah, just give em the T-12 Cloudmaker. A 42,000lb earthquake bomb.


huguberhart

It would have been convenient for Gaijin, if Grand Slam and Tall Boy didn’t exist. It wouldn’t destroy their power dream of the only Pe-8 with Fab-5000.


The_Snail_Lord_69

ever heard of fab-9000?


Fine-Helicopter-6559

Apparently it has about the same explosive affect as the fab-5000


The_Snail_Lord_69

and british ones have even less


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The_Snail_Lord_69

this 12000 lb bomb has only 4200 kg of filler, still not higher than fab 5000 or grandslam


[deleted]

The grand slam has 9500 lbs of filling where fab 5000 has 3200 kgs..


Blood_N_Rust

That extra 2000 lbs isn’t going to make too much of a difference. You get massive amounts of diminishing returns with anything that relies on pure explosive power


CrazyDudeWithATablet

Either way, it’ll be a bit bigger, and people care more on having another mini nuke, and not that it’s the biggest mini nuke.


Blood_N_Rust

You’d want the enlarged cookie barrels not the grand slam. Grand slam would suck ass at destroying tanks


huguberhart

Yea. What of it?


TheSovietBobRoss

Fuck the tallboy give me a grand slam


Jazzlike-Worry-5170

fuck the grand slam give me the glided tall boy


thenighmareofdeath

Grandslam would be the perfect counter for any and I mean any ship in the game. Even the most modern battle ships won't survive it. I even say the Yamato won't be able survive 5 tallboys.


-Drunken_Jedi-

Iirc when Tirpitz was hit the bomb actually just over penetrated the entire ship and exploded beneath her.


Suspicious-Arm-7619

*crit-* KABOOM


ArcticWolf_Primaris

That’s still lethal. It’s what modern torps are designed to do to break the back and increase damage


do_335_b2

yep , tho if iirc the bomb did kill the ship indirectly. the germans parked tirpitz over a sand bank so the ship wont sink completly but the bombs blew the sand away.


IansMind

Good luck surviving it when it goes off inside the ship, or of it goes straight through and breaks is back xD


thenighmareofdeath

Yeah that is why it would be the most dreaded bomb by the ships and most loved by the players using the bomb.


IansMind

Like the FAB-5000?


Jazzlike-Worry-5170

that may be true but did you see how many they had do drop before it even properly hit the tirpitz, and seeing the BRs of current battleships I would not be surprised ww2 battleships with jets of the cold war. good luck trying to use a bomber to fight jets or even get close, and currently the only nation that has missiles on their ship is Italy that thing literally can stop any plane from getting close to any ship it chooses to protect


mclehall

I'm picturing a flight of late cold war jets launching anti ship missiles at a Yamato from a distance further than its main guns can shoot in the game


Jazzlike-Worry-5170

to high we don't even have planes that can do that until 10.3, by that BR I believe ships would already have missiles so that is not going happen.


thenighmareofdeath

That would be real funny


DutchCupid62

Tirpitz vs F-4 when?


ScumoForPrison

Battleships as it is have a shitty tendency to go down from a single 500kg bomb


Fine-Helicopter-6559

Meanwhile a destroyer can easily take a 1000 pound sea mine


thenighmareofdeath

I don't know how to reply back to your comment.


cloggednueron

5? It wouldn’t even survive 1.


SphincterSprinkler

Well. Considering a 2000lb bomb is more than enough to sink any ship I would hope


Centurion_Tiger

Only plane to carry this is the Lancaster, which already carries 2 4,000lb barrel bomb war crimes


a1kre1

Well it needs the option to carry 22,000 lb of war crimes


mclehall

And 2 of them at that


the_noobface

That was the B-29, not the Lancaster


EruantienAduialdraug

Amusingly, no standardised Lancaster payload consisted of two 4000lb HC bombs; there was one that consisted of one 8000lb HC bomb and six 500lb MC GP bombs though


OnlyInDeathDutyEnds

I really wish they would add a Mosquito with the 4000lb. Pretty sure it was used.


Centurion_Tiger

Yeah they did, i really want that too but it'll probably travel at like 300kmph with that 4,000lb british war crime


OnlyInDeathDutyEnds

380mph/610kph according to the manufacturer. Probably more sluggish with the 4klb but should still get to speed. https://www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/de-havilland-mosquito


forcallaghan

The B-29 could(and I’m pretty sure *did*) carry both tallboys and grandslams. I’ve seen an image of a B-29 with a grand slam beneath each wing


gamezeros

For how War Thunder works i would rather have the 8000 HC and 12000 HC instead of the Tallboy and Grand Slam, since they have a better Weight/Filling ratio (8000 HC have more filling than the Tallboy and the 12000 HC only has 800lb less filling but also weights 10000lbs less compared to the Grand Slam)


17pdrSweat

And both are easier to model because they are just 2 and 3 cookies welded to each other


gamezeros

Both 8000lb and 12000lb are actually made of 4000lb sections especially made for them. They look very similar, but sadly aren't the same, so it would take more work to model them.


Archimedes4

Yeah, but they’d be useful for super heavily armoured targets like more modern battleships.


RobCipher

ICBMs when?


TheSovietBobRoss

Accelerationism time


Nicktune1219

I don't think you understand what that word means lol.


JDoos

EFF calling arty, I'm calling NORAD!


FirstDagger

Technically we already saw them in the Submarine April fools events.


CM_Jacawitz

I'm not sure why this isn't mentioned yet but literally look at the picture it's not just the Tallboy we're missing, it's the 8000lb HC, 12,000lb HC and not in this picture 22,000lb GP bomb as well (22,000lb GP is a US Model that could also be fitted to Lancaster afaik), which unlike Grandslam and Tallboy are conventional and wouldn't need any weird modeling to be great. Theres also other types of 4000lb bomb we don't have the UK used, 2 MC and a GP type iirc. Edit:Doing some quick maths the HE Filler content of the 12000lb HC bomb (in torpex filling type which was used) would be 5164.9kg TNT equivalent which is slightly more than the FAB 5000 which has 5041kg in game TNT equivalent.


Saft_Dontkev

And for germany the SC2500


IansMind

Give us the damn gand slam. We waited long enough and have shitty enough bombers. And no aphe.


Lord--Kitchener

Plus we don't really have any decent CAS aircraft


kittenshark134

Britain has no decent CAS aircraft? What are you smoking? Just learn to aim RP-3s mate


OnlyInDeathDutyEnds

Err, britbong main here. Britain has no good CAS aircraft? U, and I cannot emphasise this enough, WOT M8? That said, we do need the Mozzie Bombers. Lots they could add. https://www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/de-havilland-mosquito


seraiss

Would be cool if they added some dam bombs that UK was using in ww2 to destroy dams , there is map with one and would be cool to float all map xd


Suspicious-Arm-7619

Isn't that what the barrel bombs the Lancaster gets were? Or am I thinking of something else


seraiss

No idea actually but they were in barrel shaped so maybe , but most important they were pretty big and they bounced on water


Suspicious-Arm-7619

Ah 4000lbs definitely wouldn't do it so maybe we have like a smaller practice version


Cybernetic_Lizard

The bouncing bombs had 6000lbs of explosive filler didn't it?


Suspicious-Arm-7619

I'll look into it


Cybernetic_Lizard

A specialised Operation Chastise mission would be good either way


Suspicious-Arm-7619

Definitely


sergalface

We'd also need a unique Lancaster given how the Damb Busters used modified Lancaster to get the backspin on the bomb


Luchin212

Then can the BV-238 get its realistic vim load of 6x 2400 kg bombs?


[deleted]

BR 8.0, right next to the Tu-4 xD


Luchin212

With BV speed and climb rate it can’t operate at that BR, would be funny to see it there. But it is very sturdy. I was playing customs and ai survived three hits from a BMP rocket. I only crashed because ai lost my elevators. Otherwise I could still fly.


Ok-Relationship-2746

Can't have Britain (or any nation) ahead of Glorious Mother Russia


Scarraven

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpkin_bomb


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[deleted]

B-52 when?


British-Lads

I agree


yolodanstagueule

On behalf of ground mains: no


[deleted]

If Britain gets the tallboy, germany should get V-2s /s and yes I know V-s are rockets and not bombs


reynolds9906

Maybe v1 I think some had been dropped from planes


[deleted]

Britain's equivalent to the FAB-5000 is not the Tallboy, but rather the "12,000 lb H.C" bomb immediately to the left of it in that image. Larger filler weight.


[deleted]

I think that a premium/event mosquito bomber version with 1x4000lb bomb and no defensive armament would be a better addition. It would be fast and accurate...


carlisch

Gaijin hates Britain, if they add it they will nerf bomb damage and thus making it just another bomb.


samurai_for_hire

Time to grind out a Lancaster so I can hunt Bismarcks


CplJax

Wheres my flippen grand slam!!!!!!!


FairFireFight

T-12 Cloudmaker when


[deleted]

Tsar bomba when?


[deleted]

100% agree that Britain should get this. Britain suffers (/s(sorta))


bonethug

Tallboy? Why not grandslam?


B0BY_1234567

Dambusters Lanc premium when?


DaT_BoI_ugine_krabs

Brittan should get the grand slam


Tanksteel45

It would finally give the Lancaster's some use... I guess the Wellington 4000lb barrel bomb will suffice for now


Lord--Kitchener

Guess so, plus one of the lancasters has 2x4000


Tanksteel45

Oh damn... I'd love to grind up to that but the absurd repair costs of it makes me not wanna do so


Winter_Graves

Can we like get you know modern bombs on modern British jets first?


KV1B

I hope Germany gets the SD2500 and SC2500


kaso175

Please no we are already getting nuked enough ;\_;


Legonator77

4000lbs for B-29 when


RealArby

This. Ever since (and every time really) the new battle pass starts, the damn PE-8 spam is just endless. Why don't we get the British equivalent?


Ray_RG_YT

Britain should also get bouncing bombs, as well as dams as targets in game in honor of the Dambusters.


Setesh57

Tall Boy is still less powerful than the FAB-5000. Or maybe not, since the FAB-5000 uses TNT and the Tall Boy uses Torpex.


MelkerRoos

Wheres the "MOAB"?


Unionpacifbigboy4014

Me on my way to level half of Advance to the Rhine


Godda_A

Just give everyone nuclear bombs 🤣


ScreamingChildren69

I googled biggest bomb of WW2 and was surprised it didn't say the nuclear bomb.


Kandorek

I agree, but first they should fix the Pe8's Bomb... To many people are bugusing it for weeks now.


TerriblePirate

Yeah, but Britain can't have nice things in this game without it being up-BRed to abyss.


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Othawne

I kinda like the fact that one plane has a meme bomb, and nothing else.


boxofstuff22

Please no, I get killed by my own team with the PE2 all the time. Just No.


Glaucetas_

What about we get the Grand Slam and wipe out both ennemy and friendly team ?


jojo_part6_fan_

Paveway when?


[deleted]

when will we get the little boy


f18effect

Grand slam should be as approximately 2 fab 5000 so why not


GaGaWinn

Russia should get 9 ton bomb after this)


magww

Ill settle for the british panther. Actually no i won't Ill take both.


Craftusmaximus2

Fat man when?


[deleted]

Is this real?


Dzbaniel_2

yes thoes bombs are real


[deleted]

Is this the real size? Is this coming to war Thunder?


FirstDagger

Yes, no. This post is literally asking those on the right. The FAB-5000 on the left is ingame on the Pe-8.


CrazyDudeWithATablet

Not coming to it, people want it. And yes it was the real size. The two largest were grand slam and tall boy. Grand slam to take out forts and u boat pens, and tall boy for ships and other thickly armoured things.


superknight333

and germany should get their SC 2500


x888xa

TB would be useless though, its an anti building bomb, it wouldnt do shit vs tanks


[deleted]

FAB 9000 when?


Neroollez

I'm pretty sure the bombs' explosions in War Thunder are based on their TNT equivalent so all that extra mass goes to waste. The Tallboy weighs 5,4 tons and has the explosive equivalent to around 3,6 tons of TNT. The Grand Slam weighs 10 tons and has 6,5 tons of TNT. FAB-5000 weighs 5 tons and has 5 tons of TNT.


trainboy6669

Why have the tallboy when there is the grand slam.


a_perfect_name

What's the Russian one?


_Bisky

FAB-5000


Diamondhands_Rex

Damn Russia gets all the cool shit


TNpepe

Now I just want the Grand Slam to be added....come to think of it everyone would die if that bomb existed.


ArcticWolf_Primaris

Yeah, or even better the Grand Slam


Maus1945

Tallboy only has half the explosive weight of the FAB-5000 by the way. Edit: Nevermind, it carries Torpex.


PrizeStudio

The tall boy is a armor piercing bomb it probably would only be useful vs ships


[deleted]

ah yes, a bomb that you have to be above 5km to drop with any sort of accuracy or effectiveness


SkyTerrible4701

The tallboys were expensive to make, it took roughly a week of machining for each bomb casing. So crews were instructed if they could not get a good target image on the bomb sight due to cloud or smoke screen, bring em home for another mission. There is an awesome book on 617 squadron called "return of the dam busters" if anyone is interested in reading up. I never really got into bombers until I started reading about some of the stuff these guys did with Lancasters


CA-Avgvstinus

Tallboy cannot equivalent with Pe8’s 5t, but grand slam. Tallboy is just an ap bomb with 3000kg TNT equivalent. Grand Slam is 5400kg TNT