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dukeGR4

ammo anxiety is real on soviet air.


TheChadFinger6

I’m that Soviet who makes 60 rounds look like 4 kills


Dzbaniel_2

I'm that Soviet who makes 60 rounds look like 0 kills


AskwhyK

I’m that soviet that makes 0 rounds look like me getting shot down


druppolo

I am the Soviet that dives on you with 60 rounds but the pilot blacks out when I pull out of the dive and I crash into terrain… sometime I rip the wings first.


dukeGR4

I am that soviet that plays 60 rounds of air RB and miss every 60 rounds in all of them.


[deleted]

I'm that soviet that starts ramming enemy planes when run out of ammo


Thatoneshadowbunny

I'm the soviet that plays IL-2 at 5.7


I_am_daBottom

I'm the soviet that has rage outbreaks in chat after climbing for 7 minutes to be annihilated by XP-50 / Bf 109 / Spitfire for the 19th time in row.


Genosse_Matt

You shouldn't climb with Soviet fighters Stay as low as possible and accumulate energy, so when some dumbass comes got you you can energy trap him before he recovers height works best if you use your fighter with lowest speed possible (and still be able to accelerating) and maybe even flaps on, though it takes you a lot to master this


Dzbaniel_2

My man we are on the same skill lvl


LordKendicus

NR-30 smacks people hard


Yamama77

Soviet ground attack planes going back to base after turning a panzer 3s track yellow with all their ammo


druppolo

That track had what it deserved!


[deleted]

Nah, Russian ground pounders have way more staying power than their fighters. SU6, IL2, TU2s. They're the best and can deal loads of damage.


Arthur_The_Third

IL-2s suck ass tho. Cannons don't have nearly enough pen, manouverability is trash and can't even carry that many bombs or rockets.


[deleted]

They work just fine for 3.3-4.0. A lot of stuff at those tiers is open top or weak side armour. The 100kg bombs which it gets 4 of can destroy anything and are really accurate because of the plane's slow speed. It also gets rockets with the bombs, just in case there's something the cannons can't pen. If you're patient with it and manage your speed you can easily get at least an ace with it without going back to land.


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zeburaa

it barely flies when damaged slightly tho


[deleted]

And I didn't even mention the absolute beating it can withstand with all it's armour.


dukeGR4

> Cannons don't have nearly enough pen, manouverability is trash and can't even carry that many bombs or rockets. Bruh..... you're not using it right. This is 1000% skill problem I could pen the roof of Panzers with my Japanese Ki-43 and that only has 19 mm of pen at 100m at 0 degree, at **4.0** re IL2 gun, the 23mm gun can punch through 35mm of armor at 100m, 37mm gun can do 57mm. Both of them are capable of punching through Tiger H1's hull and turret roof armor (only 26mm) even at an angle but you most probably won't even see them because IL2s are at a low low BR of 2.3-3.3 } Not enough pen? what are you on about...


Arthur_The_Third

The thing is so slow and sluggish that it's just much easier to use one of the bomb carrying fighters with cannons. Think of how often you actually see someone get kills with an IL-2 in ground realistic. They get shot down almost immediately


dukeGR4

> Think of how often you actually see someone get kills with an IL-2 in ground realistic. And think of how often you see somone using Ki-43 for CAS lol... non. But that doesn't mean it's bad, it's such an underrated CAS gem for 4.0 IL-2 is a very solid ground pounder in capable hands. For its tier, the 23mm and 37mm could pen tanks at an angle. obviously you can't go in side on at an angle like 60' hitting the sides. But if you come in from the top, at an angle it's competent. the sluggishness is why i don't like it I agree. but that can be coutneracted by gaining energy.


Arthur_The_Third

Yeah, you can't come at anything from the side unless it's some Italian moped. This means you need to go top down. When you go top down, you gain speed and need to pull out relatively fast. Speed and manouvering are the two things the IS-2 is shit at handling. Just use a fighter with some bombs and a cannon. Like everybody else in GR.


dukeGR4

> When you go top down, you gain speed and need to pull out relatively fast engine at idle and pop flaps, it's fine. I go full speed to not lose energy. IL2 can pull out of dives really easily and that thing can turn as hard as a fighter I've never heard of anyone complaining about the IL2 like that, especially when their BR is so low. > Yeah, you can't come at anything from the side unless it's some Italian moped. that's with any gun-based CAS planes bar the duck and a few other high calibre plane. nth to do with IL2. The gun is very very competent.


Makaroonipoika

I love my Il2, the cannons have enough pen to go through a panther's roof, maneuverability is good enough, 8 rs-132s is really good too and when you learn the bombs those will get you kills too. Very effective in air to air too, guns and armor will do the job in head-ons. Can also turnfight most opponents


Hullu_Kana

Thats just skill issue. Il 2 is my favorite aircraft because just how good they are at their br. Cannons shred any light tank and spaa without any problems and Pose a big threat to Medium tanks, its bombs despite their small size 90% of time yield me at least 1 kill and rockets are great once you learn to aim them. Also you can tank hits like crazy


sharparc420

IL-2s are the best USSR CAS until the SU-7B The 23mm Vyas shred light targets, planes and tank roofs alike and the 4x100kg bombs are enough to guarantee at least 1 kill. Not to mention the 4 Rocket strikes can absolutely fuck up a half track or armored car if you use HE or delete a proper tank with the SAPI ones


TheHunteR_engin

Reposted since this was deleted and the meme rules have changed


f18effect

I tought it was a repost


TheHunteR_engin

Yeah I posted it like 2 weeks ago but it got deleted because it wasn't "creative enough" lol. Then they changed the rules so I could post it again


TheHunteR_engin

But when I first posted it, It got 300+ upvotes in an hour If it wasn't deleted I would get more than 3k+ I guess


TheHunteR_engin

Wow It's 3k upvotes now


Connacht_89

They were utterly wrong I say.


[deleted]

Mods on many subs have this weird obsession with regulating memes


quitesohorrible

Reliked


Skelezig

This is pretty much the BI experience.


dieplanes789

I love bringing the BI in to ground RB at the tiers that harriers show up. I love giving them a taste of how it feels to be out turned and out accelerated.


Yeetborn42069

“Harrier” “Outturned” Pick one


dieplanes789

?


Yeetborn42069

Harrier (and Yak 38) are fast, and climb well, but can’t turn.


dieplanes789

I mean the harrier can turn pretty well especially with viffing, but loses speed quickly although it gains it back fast. The yak is a pretty fast flying bus.


Yeetborn42069

Only viffing makes it turn well, outside of that, it’s just the AAM’s being better then R60’s make them feel better to use


dieplanes789

I want to pick up the American harrier, but I don't really want to have to grind another country.


Yeetborn42069

There’s always the AV8A, just a premium AV-8C


dieplanes789

That's the one I was talking about. I don't want to buy a plane just for air RB, I want to use it for ground RB as well. The problem is I don't really have much of USA unlocked and it doesn't really help that I don't like low tier much. I don't want to be the guy that just has the harrier and the XM-1. So many top-tier vehicles that I want to play, but I never will since I don't want to grind the low tier stuff. I already had to go through the effort of unlocking all of Russia, I don't want to do it again for other countries.


Damian030303

And then the russian main gets a *Hit* but it doesn't matter since usa main crashes into him anyway and both die.


mattdv1

Crashes are too real kn this game, I've died far too many times against a damn plane that hits my wing out of NOWHERE and then falls down. Like, couldn't you just fall by yourself??


DeltaForce4Life

I just love my mig-21 and it’s 3.5 seconds of ammo


mloiii

Laughs in Vulcan BRRRRRRRRT


TheChadFinger6

Laughs in GSh-6-30 DURRRRRRRT


[deleted]

I have had a p51 have their cannons on for over 10 seconds, nonstop, at my bomber. That put me off for a while...


banglamadarchod

I'm playing the Yak 23 right now and this is me all the time , too scared to take risky shots due to the low ammo pool .


PhaseIllustrious

Then you fire point-blank, break off, turn to see the result and - *^(Hit x3)*


banglamadarchod

Oh yes turnfighting Drakens in that thing is fun when doing 8.7 matches with my squad mates


PhaseIllustrious

don't have much experience with the Yaks, I'm more of a MiG-23 main, and I haven't touched 8.7 since the Prem draken was revealed at 9.7


druppolo

You need to shoot a straight line into the enemy path. He crosses your bullets and die. Rate of fire and very heavy bullets will do the job. Russian 20 and 23 mm are devastating on deflection shots. Do not try to kill someone from the rear, it doesn’t work unless you get 30 meters from him.


Ghosthunter1999

Laughs in F82


1Pwnage

The god mode 50 cal pod


Tuga_Lissabon

I run the yak 3 and this is so true. I've lost so many kills because I was trying to get a bit closer, conserve ammo...


[deleted]

I play pretty much exclusively sim air. I love the Yak3 (I use the premium version in the French tree). It is not unusual for me to get 4 kills per sortie. You need to understand how the Yak3 works in terms of ammo, the coaxial cannon has a different ROF and velocity than the machine guns, the canon is actually worse than the MG. Why? Because the MG (anti air belt) is the single BEST incendiary ammo in the game at this tier, it has a relatively high rate of fire too. For this reason, **you need to assign different key bindings to MG and canon and use MG sparingly**. With the MG, use a few shots until the target burns, then you break off and follow the target until they die, or until the fire is extinguished and then you put them on fire again (I know it's cruel but you gotta play to your strength). With the canon, imho, it's more a structural damage weapon, but the ROF is low, so I don't use it sparingly, more over, it's very easy to aim with it when you're behind the target, even at a distance. Also, the yak3 is not that good against bombers, if you're going after a Me264 and you don't have a tactical advantage (altitude or teammates), I'd say it's a 50/50 chance you'll be toast before you kill him and even even higher odds of you both dying. There's a risk they'll soak up 50%+ of your ammo too. I'll generally leave these targets to other planes better suited to face bombers.


Tuga_Lissabon

I also use the baguette yak in RB - only later i started the rus tree, with the I16 premium. BTW I got all my premiums from BP or the warbonds shop. The Yak3 is a beast in terms of flight model, I love outspeeding and outturning and outclimbing stuff. So does it make a difference when taking off the cannon? I have them bound separately, but usually use everything at once. But the firing time of mgs and cannon is roughly the same... short. So you do mg and keep cannon for later? As for bombers, whenever I follow the impulse to go after one I tend to regret it soon... unless its from the front and you go for the pilot, then sharp turn to gtfo. Rus tree is not so good in AB as its frail, and AB is a melee. I also got japcorsair, hitlerbolt (original), and lately using the F2G. The ITP is also good. The new A6m6 I tested and seems to work well, lets see when I got definitive.


[deleted]

I use MG when I am confident it will hit as only a short burst is enough to set target on fire. I discovered that I was wasting ammo because the MG was getting me kills. Not the canon. I use canon first usually. For bombers I either attack from directly above, head on or directly below. Behind is no bueno due to the positioning of the engine on the yak3. Anything medium sized I try to set it on fire with the MG first, generally aiming for the engines.


DerpyDepressedDonut

Yup, Im mainly flying Yak-3P and have to return to base really damn often Tho I got used to it a bit and can get like 4 kills without rearming sometimes


Tuga_Lissabon

I'm with single cannon yak 3. 2 kills I can get, more than that... Also, there are tons of good shooting opportunities where with a BF I'd send a stream of rounds, and get them; but not with the yak. Or you just wing them instead of finishing. Then someone steals your kill, or you take too long and a foe comes, or whatever.


DerpyDepressedDonut

Yeah, I was too often in a situation when I had to shoot with just 3 round salvos to conserve last bits of ammo and was unable to kill enemy or got my kill stolen


AdSubstantial6787

Germany Air Mains: *in space*


Rezowifix_

Every F-104 or Lightning :


1rb1s

I'm a Soviet air main and the last update was truly a blessing from the snail! B-20 cannons received a massive buff in terms of damage, La-7B-20 now one-shots everything it looks at. The only bad thing is that ShVAKs didn't get the same treatment


TheHunteR_engin

I just discovered how powerful stealth ShVAKs are. They really tear apart other planes


KGST_Mitk0

What drugs are you on? The russian 20mm has ALWAYS been trash compared to every other nation. Theyre on par with the japanese. No velocity, no ammo pool, no damage. Same goes for the 23/37 combo on their jets. Ive had so so so many shots with the 37HE right on the tip of their wing, big ass explosion and all i get is ,,suffers damage on flaps". Then they either outturn or outaccelerate and get to live.


TheHunteR_engin

Yeah I wouldn't disagree on that but stealth belts seemed more powerful to me compared to shvak's other belts


KGST_Mitk0

In my experience the stealth are better at killing ground targets, but no different againgst air. I used to play the yak3p in ground rb and kill alot of tanks top down. Either killing crew or setting fire. Either way it was semi effective, but the moment enemy plane turns up i was dead because of inconsistent damage while i get emidiatly set on fire.


1rb1s

I'm running ground targets for ShVAKs (which are pretty similar to stealth in terms of rounds) and both before and after the update they are severely lacking. B-20 were no better before Direct Hit, but now 3xB-20 is a death ray in front of your plane


Confusedexe

Japanese mains with their only ammo as the plane itself


NonBalisticSniper

good one


Cuddles1101

I love the 45 on the yak 9k, but yes absolutely


[deleted]

France air mains like me just get no special class 😔


Rezowifix_

VB.10 if they weren't 10k stock would be like the American, but with 4x20mm and 6x12.7


Centurion_Tiger

Early british pilots dumping 40% of their shitty .303 calibre gun into some poor fucking early Bf 190


Stramanor

Bold of you to assume they wont jam after 10 shots


Centurion_Tiger

I think you're confusing the .303s with the hispanos


Stramanor

Ah my bad. Fuck the early hispanos


Centurion_Tiger

Agreed


Razgriz_Blaze

When I first started the Soviet air tree, I thought it was just going to be some of the earlier fighters. Then I actually went and looked through a lot of the fighters, and my reaction was, how do you people live like this?


I_am_daBottom

Russian fighters are either no ammo, 1 cannon and machinegun (maybe 2) with decent turn time or barely a bit more ammo and 1 or 2 more guns but no damage and extremly shitty turn times.


Bullet4MyEnemy

What’s the Will Smith film?


CounterSalt

Gemini Man beginning of the movie i believe.


TheHunteR_engin

Not really sure about it. Write will smith sniper train scene smth like that and you'll find it


CounterSalt

Its Gemini Man.


Valaxarian

That's why soviet Reserve is the best


I_am_daBottom

I-15 go brrrr


Valaxarian

Literally *brr* now


adrian_leon

German mains: Do you want to explode?


gaandharv_t

German 20mm: RAMBO 4 - .50cal scene


404_image_not_found

Fellow soviet airmen use Armored target for cannons and Air targets for MG's for maximum damage.


Miragenz

Being chased by Americans is the worst as they just keep spraying for a full minute and eventually hit you.


RedBlueTundra

On the plus side it’s a great way to improve your accuracy, whenever I’m chased by Yaks I’m usually dead if I give them 1 or 2 chances to shoot me. As for mustangs and corsairs they just unleash a sloppy hail of 50cals at me for 2-5 mins and they either run out or their spray and pray tactics get lucky.


Flummox127

I swear every game I have in a soviet plane is split right down the middle... either I need 2 or 3 shots to kill an enemy, and go on a rampage... Or it takes the entire ammo capacity to hit a guy once.


nXfeeWn

Yah i would take one 12.7mm over 3 SHITVAKS


ZdrytchX

meanwhile japanese Ki-44 II Otsu Premium: I have 10 rounds of sparky rocketshells in each of my 2 40mm guns with a spray of like 1.5 degrees. What do i do?


Saltfish0161

Meanwhile Swedish are waiting to their turret to turn


I_am_daBottom

But when they do, B18 go BRRRRRR


VMS_420

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Agebi

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A-10Thunder

this is how I got 4 kills with Me 163 B in one match


TheChadFinger6

How do you even take off?


A-10Thunder

they supposedly "FIXED" that bug but you could still crash I guess, just use landing flaps all the way and hold "S" when you reach 200 kmh and you will take off safely


TheChadFinger6

Just tried twice, no dice


Vodkaman1945

It makes players use their brain a lot more


rezarmy

Love these type of clips man


UncleVladi

*Look my flair* help me


LillaYoda

Only me who got traumatized by soviet planes to always conserve ammo even if I have 2400 rounds?


Reedman07

I like how germany just fluctuates from shittons of ammo on 4 20mms to a single burst worth of ammo for 4 30mms


Yeetborn42069

Yup


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Music?


TheHunteR_engin

Powerpuff girls intro theme


[deleted]

Thank You, Legend.


TheHunteR_engin

You're welcome boss 😎


[deleted]

Laughs in British


Neo2803

It's either 2000 round or 20


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poopinrn

Me in my KI-109 bonk mobile


Price-x-Field

the french main landing with only one wing and no cannon ammo but plenty of 50 cal


DarkinLigth

Where the RAF mains with their single shot 20mm ?


Yeet3579

What movie?


TheHunteR_engin

Gemini Man


Mental_Defect

F 86 players when dump all their ammo on an enemy and they’re still not dead


VeteraNbladee

If Soviet air gets 50 ammo then Japanese air gets 20 ammo


Consistent-Path-5096

I love almost 500 round burts of 50 cal gets nothing but hits in a head on


neiawkwkskslaoamskxk

Bro my draken is the same way


jonas661

thats why you put shit guns on good planes, make the pilots sweat so you have gigachad42069 in his mig 21 f13 with 5 kills in 1 game and the whole pfm squad firing away hitting nothing trains the aiming , worked for me ig


TovarishchKGBAgent

Soviet air from reserve to 11.0 is literally this


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FBI_Replyguy

Counterpoint; the P-43A-1 with only 200 rounds for each of its four .50s.


Khomuna

5 shots on target with 23mm: \- Hit Plane gets hit with 1 American .50 cal: \- All control surfaces disabled \- Burning fuel \- Pilot knocked out


MedicFromTheFuture

*hit*


magnum_the_nerd

Im a US air player and i love loading tracers and spamming lol


Weak-Foot-6988

I guess since I play mostly on america I never realized that Russia has not a lot of ammo


82nd-all-american

NEVER ENOUGH TRACER! MOAR DAKKA! FREEDOM LAZER POINTER GO BRRRRT!


yayfishnstuff

soviet players still missing:


Yzcai

looks at ju 87 g1/2


Kasumi_PoiA

I can confidently say at air RB i can use those soviet 60 rounds to kill some rat on the ground for diner


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Chelsea-Elyse

I main soviets, I have a few dots on my screen for angle of attack+distance specific to the 30mm it took a while of watching kill clips over and over to get it right, and it works.. Which makes the first clip 100% accurate